#raspbian IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2012-12-30

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[1:29] <kurtis_> any more news on when we're going to be getting a better JVM?
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[1:33] <plugwash> depends on what you mean by "we're going to be getting"
[1:34] <plugwash> there is an armv6 hardfloat oracle jvm available now but it's not redistributable so users who want it will have to get it themselves
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[1:34] <plugwash> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=26110
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[1:37] <kurtis_> plugwash: oooooooo
[1:38] <kurtis_> I guess I didn't read far enough into that forum post
[1:39] <kurtis_> or rather I missed that one
[1:42] <kurtis_> bollocks, that link doesn't work
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[1:45] <kurtis_> bah! jdk8.java.net is down period
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[2:23] <kais58> plugwash: thanks, I'll have a look through when I get chance
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[2:44] <cahewson> n
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[3:54] <adama> maswan: are individual jobs sufficiently small that the arm can do them fast enough?
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[8:04] <Hazza> hello
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[8:11] <generus> hi
[8:12] <Hazza> hi
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[10:08] <ash9r> logger url
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[12:48] <maswan> adama: sure, if it has enough ram
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[13:01] <zyp___> hi
[13:02] <zyp___> I followed the guide to connect the dualshock 3 controller, all went fine and I get the js0 device but there's absolutely no output
[13:02] <zyp___> can somebody help me ?
[13:07] <maswan> adama: they are within an order of magnitude from the 1GHz p3/athlons:s that were doing fine in its days
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[13:27] <erdnussradio> hi there i got a raspi with raspbian on it. but with a git version of xbmc installed that is to buggy to use. so i would like to install version 10 of it but I got a problem while "sudo apt-get install xbmc" http://paste.xinu.at/65n8p
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[13:28] <erdnussradio> Do you got an idea how to fix that?
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[13:30] <zyp___> erdnussradio: have you tried a pre-build version like this one ? http://www.memetic.org/pre-compiled-xbmc-for-raspbian/
[13:31] <zyp___> s/build/built
[13:32] <erdnussradio> isnt there a version in the repos?
[13:37] <zyp___> erdnussradio: don't really know, maybe because it's still in WIP
[13:37] <zyp___> erdnussradio: openelec and raspbmc aren't said to be stable yet
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[13:39] <erdnussradio> zyp___: ok. thanks
[13:40] <zyp___> erdnussradio: just noticed that the memetic build is one of the oldest see there : http://elinux.org/RPi_XBMC
[14:00] <wiiguy> erdnussradio you can try xbian
[14:00] <wiiguy> oh or do you want it within raspbian ?
[14:02] <|Jeroen|> erdnussradio, try openelec
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[16:23] <vagrantc> ok, haven't actually done a build yet, but this should hopefully allow building a linux-image-*rpi from debian wheezy's linux source: http://cascadia.debian.org/~vagrant/rpi-linux_3.2.35-2.diff
[16:23] <vagrantc> needs a few more kernel config options set
[16:24] <vagrantc> it's essentially all the diffs from rpi's 3.2.27 merged into 3.2.35, and then dumped as a patch in the kernel sources.
[16:24] <vagrantc> er, in debian/patches/
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[16:25] <Supernova> I want 3.7 on my pi
[16:27] <vagrantc> i'll work on that after i have something that's basicallly the same as what's in wheezy.
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[16:31] <vagrantc> although there's some upstream support in 3.6+ for the rpi, so it should be easier.
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[17:25] <raidensnake> does anyone know where i can get libglues_cm?
[17:26] <raidensnake> I'm having a real hard time finding it
[17:34] <raidensnake> can't compile anything without it
[17:36] <raidensnake> I found this but I can't build it as it throws errors
[17:36] <raidensnake> http://glues.googlecode.com/files/glues-1.4.tar.gz
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[17:42] <sir_kate_bush> does anyone know if the raspbian image i could download from the internet would have an installer where i can choose which things to install? or is it all pre-installed for you like it is on the sd card i got in the post?
[17:42] <sir_kate_bush> thanks in advance
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[17:51] <raidensnake> too bad i can't compile this libglues
[17:54] <adama> maswan: no, they're not. a 1ghz athlon is probably faster than most, if not all, arm cores available today
[17:54] <kurtis_> Does anyone have an alternate download for the jdk8.java.net? jdk.java.net seems to not be working
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[17:55] <maswan> adama: eh, within a factor 2-4 of that is fine too.
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[17:58] <adama> also, i think you misunderstand what an order of magnitude is ;)
[17:58] <maswan> that's somewhere above 4
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[18:06] <dexta> evening
[18:10] <adama> no, it's morning
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[18:12] <dexta> ok
[18:14] <kurtis_> lol
[18:14] <kurtis_> lol timezones
[18:15] <dexta> sorry i tend to amsg in mirc when i sit down in work
[18:15] <raidensnake> anyone know about libglues_cm?
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[18:32] <zwanzig> yo sons
[18:32] <zwanzig> just installed raspbian wheezy
[18:33] <zwanzig> and i want to get rid of the desktop interface
[18:33] <zwanzig> there was some kind of bios thingy when i booted the first time
[18:33] <zwanzig> where i could choose what to boot; can i get back this?
[18:33] <sir_kate_bush> i think it was called raspi-config or something
[18:33] <atouk> raspi-config?
[18:34] <zwanzig> ye
[18:34] <sir_kate_bush> type that in a terminal
[18:34] <zwanzig> ok ok
[18:34] <zwanzig> brb
[18:34] <atouk> may have to sudo it
[18:35] <zwanzig> hmm wondering if i should go for archlinux instead, because i'd like to setup the pi as a webserver and don't need no fancy desktop
[18:36] <atouk> turn off x and install apache/php
[18:36] <atouk> pr whichever flavor of server you prefer
[18:36] <vagrantc> you can easily build a raspbian wheezy without all that other stuff
[18:36] <zwanzig> k
[18:37] <zwanzig> how can i build it without the other stuff?
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[18:37] <zwanzig> just turn it of in raspi config?
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[18:39] <zwanzig> ok, i'll read it up
[18:39] <zwanzig> thnx guys!
[18:39] <atouk> zwanzig, http://69.126.35.213:8000/
[18:40] <atouk> pi webserver is easy
[18:40] <zwanzig> cool
[18:40] <zwanzig> ye
[18:40] <zwanzig> i wanna setup an node js server
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[18:42] <raidensnake> hey
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[19:30] <adama> dutch speakers
[19:30] <adama> would you recognise "tvn;ln"
[19:30] <adama> as meaning the same as "tl;dr" ?
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[19:44] <adama> oh, bleh, wrong channel :D
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[19:58] <dexta> am i just being a donut or is the root partition mounted twice ?
[19:59] <dexta> rootfs 1.8G 1.5G 171M 90% /
[19:59] <dexta> /dev/root 1.8G 1.5G 171M 90% /
[19:59] <dexta> /dev/mmcblk0p2 / ext4 defaults,noatime 0 1
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[20:08] <raidensnake> hey
[20:09] <vagrantc> dexta: nothing to worry about
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[20:09] <dexta> im sure
[20:09] <dexta> but why
[20:10] <raidensnake> anyone know where to get libGLES_CM?
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[20:33] <rymate1234> "unable to connect to mirrordirector.raspbian.org"
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[21:08] <wollymammoth> what should i set my domain name to in the raspbian net installer
[21:08] <wollymammoth> i didn't know domain names were a thing that applied to home LANs anyway
[21:13] <dexta> Configure the network
[21:13] <dexta> The domain name is the part of your Internet address to the right of your hostname.
[21:13] <dexta> Domain name:
[21:13] <dexta> home.lan
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[21:15] <sir_beyonce_dog> dexta i assumed that was to be replaced with something else
[21:15] <sir_beyonce_dog> in any case it doesn't work
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[23:34] <kurtis_> does anyone have a link to the oracle jvm with hard float support? the one listed here doesn't seem to work: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=26110
[23:36] <plugwash> in what way doesn't it seem to work?
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[23:37] <vagrantc> plugwash: so, i think i have a workable linux-image build off of linux 3.2.35-2 in wheezy...
[23:38] <kurtis_> plugwash: the page doesn't load. period.
[23:38] <vagrantc> plugwash: hasn't finished building yet, so i don't know if it works for sure
[23:38] <kurtis_> plugwash: scratch that
[23:38] <kurtis_> plugwash: it seems to be working now
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[23:39] <plugwash> vagrantc, OOI what are you building on?
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[23:40] <vagrantc> plugwash: an efikamx (native armhf) and a quad core using qemu for a cross-architecture build
[23:40] <vagrantc> plugwash: they're racing
[23:41] * plugwash is pretty sure building it is an overnight job on imx53qsb
[23:42] <plugwash> and the efika looks like it's slower than the imx53qsb
[23:42] <vagrantc> plugwash: http://cascadia.debian.org/~vagrant/rpi-linux_3.2.35-2.diff
[23:42] <vagrantc> plugwash: well, we'll see how the x86 quad core with qemu does...
[23:43] <vagrantc> plugwash: at the very least, i've managed to get the patchsets to apply
[23:43] <vagrantc> it wasn't *too* hard. only had to disable one patch from debian.
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[23:44] <vagrantc> oh, that URL is outdated a bit...
[23:45] <plugwash> cascadia.debian.org doesn't seem to resolve
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[23:46] <vagrantc> doh.
[23:46] <vagrantc> cascadia.debian.net
[23:48] <vagrantc> there's a small change i haven't yet pushed...
[23:48] <plugwash> damn that's a big diff......
[23:48] <vagrantc> patches are always bigger than the sources
[23:49] <vagrantc> a lot of that diff is autogenerated, too.
[23:49] <plugwash> BTW are you a dd?
[23:50] <vagrantc> yeah
[23:50] <plugwash> ok that is good news
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[23:50] <plugwash> it means someone else has done the work of determining you are trusted
[23:51] <vagrantc> i can sign them if you want...
[23:52] <vagrantc> plugwash: new URL: http://cascadia.debian.net/~vagrant/rpi-linux_3.2.35-2~7.diff.gz
[23:53] <plugwash> did you just create one big patch by diffing the foundation tree against plain upstream?
[23:54] <vagrantc> plugwash: yup.
[23:54] <vagrantc> not the idea way to do it, but certainly the fastest.
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[23:55] <vagrantc> would be better to split it out, but wanted to get the config right before tackling that
[23:55] <plugwash> some questions
[23:55] <plugwash> 1: did you try to build enough into the kernel to make initrds non-mandatory?
[23:55] <plugwash> 2: did you build udebs?
[23:55] <vagrantc> plugwash: i explicitly want initrd support
[23:56] <vagrantc> plugwash: no udebs yet, but that shouldn't be too hard to add.
[23:56] <plugwash> initrd support does not imply mandatory initrd
[23:56] <vagrantc> plugwash: i *think* the MMC support is all compiled in, and it's got ext4 by default.
[23:57] <vagrantc> i think most everything else is modular.
[23:57] <vagrantc> but those are trivial tweaks to make, presuming everything else is working
[23:58] <plugwash> another relatively trivial but important thing please document EXACTLY what sources were used to create the rpi patch
[23:58] <vagrantc> hrm... looks like my efika compile failed
[23:59] <ral> Is there any possibility of getting more recent package versions into raspbian than are in wheezy? (a simple "no" is fine :)

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