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[1:09] <Gallomimia> phonestar hi
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[1:19] <Gallomimia> someone was talking about the timezone setting tool in here a few days ago. someone remind me what it is please?
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[1:39] <gnarface> Gallomimia: what was the trick with the sound?
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[1:40] <atouk> Gallomimia, raspi-config?
[1:40] <grindel> Hi all
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[1:41] <Gallomimia> gnarface i used -o hdmi flag in options on the command line for omxplayer
[1:41] <Gallomimia> which i found by using --help :P since it had no man page on my system
[1:41] <gnarface> ah
[1:41] <gnarface> yes i assumed you just knew about --help already
[1:41] <gnarface> and were refusing to read it
[1:42] <Gallomimia> well, hadn't considered it for whatever reason
[1:42] <gnarface> had i known you weren't using the analog output for audio it would have been obvious
[1:42] <Gallomimia> i grew up hearing "read the man pages"
[1:42] <gnarface> but i don't actually do sound over hdmi here
[1:42] <gnarface> it should have a manpage but raspbian isn't really what you'd consider finished
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[2:52] <samirext> hi!
[2:52] <samirext> hey guys, i'm having troubles installing raspbian
[2:53] <ParkerR_> Shoot
[2:54] <ParkerR_> samirext, What's the issue?
[2:55] <samirext> well, i explain; if i try to "burn" the image of raspbian using win32 diskimager
[2:55] <samirext> it does not occur anything
[2:55] <ParkerR_> Hmm running it as admin?
[2:55] <samirext> if i try it with arch linux it works perfectly
[2:55] <samirext> yep
[2:57] <samirext> i don't know what could be, i use the image of wheezy availble at downloads section on raspberrypi.org
[2:57] <samirext> verified with SHA1
[2:58] <ParkerR_> Could just be a bug
[2:59] <samirext> do you have any ideas to solve it ?
[3:01] <samirext> why it could work with arch linux and not with debian assuming that the image is not failed
[3:01] <ParkerR_> Not sure. It has always worked for me
[3:01] <samirext> :C
[3:01] <ParkerR_> Win32disakimager that is
[3:01] <ParkerR_> *Win32diskimager
[3:01] <samirext> may it be the sd card ? i use a 4gb micro sd, class 4
[3:01] <samirext> hmmm
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[3:02] <samirext> i'll try downloading it again
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[4:26] <damo22> hi dovecot-imapd cant install on my raspbian
[4:26] <damo22> it fails because ipv6 isnt an option on my system and it fails to start the listeners
[4:27] <damo22> this error is considered fatal to the installation and thus the package can never be configured
[4:27] <damo22> anyone know what i can do?
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[4:29] <gnarface> did you disable ipv6?
[4:29] <damo22> not that i know of
[4:30] <damo22> i would prefer to run ipv4
[4:30] <gnarface> does your /etc/hosts file have http://paste.debian.net/221547/ these lines in it?
[4:30] <damo22> yes
[4:31] <gnarface> having ipv6 locally *shouldn't* break anything if your isp only supports ipv4
[4:31] <gnarface> no idea what's wrong though, sorry
[4:31] <damo22> is there a kernel module i can try to modprobe to enable ipv6?
[4:33] <gnarface> hmm. if there is it would be somewhere in /lib/modules/[kernel version]/
[4:33] <damo22> hahaha
[4:33] <damo22> it worked after i did modprobe ipv6
[4:33] <gnarface> that's essentially how i got sound working...
[4:34] <gnarface> looked in the module directory and modprobed stuff in the sound directory till it worked
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[6:02] <Gallomimia> i need more swap space. can anyone point me at a guide to modify that?
[6:03] <sney> Gallomimia, create an empty file of the size you want on whatever filesystem you care to use, and activate it with swapon.
[6:03] <sney> OR
[6:04] <sney> create a partition somewhere you have space, and do the same.
[6:04] <sney> oh, sorry, that's mkswap and then swapon.
[6:04] <Gallomimia> seems it already has swap space. i need to grow it
[6:04] <Gallomimia> keep crashing my browser with out of memory error
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[6:04] <sney> you can have as many swaps as you want
[6:05] <sney> if you've ever been a windows user, it's the same thing as virtual memory. it just turns some part of a disk into ram
[6:05] <sney> and if one of them fills up, it uses another
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[6:05] <Gallomimia> thank the net i have never been a windows user. i would prefer if you never bring it up again
[6:06] <sney> it's generally advised to put swap on whatever disk device you have that has the fastest i/o. loading things back into memory from a slow disk is a painful experience
[6:06] <Gallomimia> we're all talking about rpi's here right?
[6:07] <sney> that's relatively fastest, for those of us who need constant reminders that the rpi could not be considered "fast" unless, maybe, you went back in time to 1995
[6:07] <Gallomimia> i remember
[6:07] <Gallomimia> i'm a mac user so, vmem is all one file back in those days
[6:08] <sney> ok, so same principle essentially, just linux is able to use as many swapfiles and partitions as you care to throw at it
[6:08] <Gallomimia> i've made swap files in ubuntu before... don't i have to do some dd stuff to make an empty file?
[6:09] <sney> the command "dd if=/dev/zero of=swapfilename bs=1024 count=X" will give you a swap file of size X bytes
[6:09] <sney> increasing bs, or byte size, may be useful for your sanity.
[6:09] <sney> or you can just hit zero a bunch of times and hope for the best.
[6:09] <Gallomimia> i'm not particularly sure about how much faster the onboard sd slot is than any USB mounted drives
[6:30] <Gallomimia> got that done. thanks for the tips sney
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[7:12] <Gallomimia> why is there a firefox-bin process running and taking 10% cpu on my pi? it reopens if i kill it. i am not running iceweasel, and it is complaining that it is already running but not responding
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[7:18] <Gallomimia> oh. its set to open jpg's by default. how horrible :( that took 5 minutes to open a window to the point i could click the X
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[7:38] <alucardX> morning
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[8:59] <Gallomimia> my cpu usage is fluttering between 20-60 percent wait. is my hardware faulty or is the software just that bad at using the broadcomm apu?
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[11:43] <plugwash> I have a text file that contains a block of lines which all have a common prefix, I want to remove that block of lines and replace them with the contents of another file
[11:43] <plugwash> any thoughts on the best way to do that?
[11:45] <TheBrayn> do you know perl?
[11:45] <TheBrayn> sed could also work
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[11:46] <plugwash> no I don't know perl and while i've done very simple replaces with sed that's about my limit of knowlege on it
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[11:47] <maswan> Am I assuming this is a recurring thingie that you'd like to automate, not just do once in an editor? :)
[11:48] <plugwash> right
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[11:50] <Holden> if the lines with the same prefix are all at the beginning or at the end of the file, then 2 grep commands could work... otherwise I'm sure it could be done with sed
[11:51] <plugwash> no they aren't all at the beginning or end
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[14:53] <plugwash> DAMN linux is HUGE
[14:58] <|Jeroen|> hugely good
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[15:04] <plugwash> mmm, it's just so damn big that any processing operations on the code (in this case attempting to turn a git repo into a series of patches) take AGES
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[15:21] <OutOfLine> can we imagine how long it took to think out, write, test it all?
[15:26] * plugwash would expect man-decades at least
[15:26] <plugwash> maybe even man-centuries
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[15:50] <Patteh> ryushe!
[15:50] <Patteh> are you here?
[15:50] <Patteh> i was googling my problem and came across a log of you in here
[15:50] <Patteh> perhaps someone else can help
[15:50] <Patteh> i'm trying to make a custom splash screen
[15:51] <Patteh> and have followed this guide http://www.edv-huber.com/index.php/problemloesungen/15-custom-splash-screen-for-raspberry-pi-raspbian
[15:51] <Patteh> using fbi and an init.d script
[15:51] <Patteh> but it fails every time i reboot
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[15:53] <Patteh> aha
[15:53] <Patteh> with a "no such file or directory"
[15:54] <Patteh> but fbi is in /usr/bin and splash.png is in /etc/
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[16:49] <Phonestar> hi
[16:51] <Phonestar> :-(
[16:51] <plugwash> hi
[16:54] <vagrantc> plugwash: hrm. testfpe spit out an error for me ... although i think i'm using the kernel cross-built with qemu.
[16:54] <plugwash> it's meant to spit out an error
[16:55] <vagrantc> oh, good.
[16:55] <vagrantc> plugwash: An unhandled exception occurred at $000081A4 :
[16:55] <vagrantc> EInvalidOp : Invalid floating point operation
[16:55] <vagrantc> $000081A4
[16:55] <plugwash> basically it does a division by zero with floating point exceptions enabled
[16:56] <vagrantc> hopefully that's the "correct" error :)
[16:56] <plugwash> if floating point exceptions are working correctly it gives that exception
[16:56] <plugwash> if floating point exceptions are not supported by the hardware (as they aren't on most armv7 stuff) it should output "inf"
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[16:57] <plugwash> on the previous kernel in the raspbian repos it did neither, instead it crashed the kernel
[16:57] <vagrantc> plugwash: regarding long-term kernel maintenance, the 3.2.x kernels will continue to be security supported in debian and probably require very little patching, so i'd suggest supporting that.
[16:57] <vagrantc> plugwash: er, 3.2.35 that is
[16:58] <vagrantc> plugwash: and there will likely be backports of newer kernels, but that will involve continually rebasing the patches (unless rpi gets all the patches merged upstream... which is actualyl the best approach)
[16:59] <plugwash> yeah the problem is that AIUI the rpf are still sorting out issues with their kernel code
[17:00] <plugwash> and they seem to be moving on from 3.2.x
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[17:01] <vagrantc> plugwash: are you planning on raspbian mostly mirroring wheezy once it's released as "stable", or planning on continuing to follow testing?
[17:02] <vagrantc> or having another raspbian based on jessie/testing
[17:04] <plugwash> The plan is to have both raspbian wheezy and raspbian jessie
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[17:04] <plugwash> though there may well be a delay between the creation of debian jessie and the creation of raspbian jessie
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[17:04] <vagrantc> sure
[17:05] <plugwash> in particular I want to move to a new build cluster, hopefully sponsored by bytemark
[17:05] <vagrantc> i'm biased, but i'd say follow wheezy as much as possible for raspbian/wheezy, and maybe support a backport from backports.debian.org for a few select things.
[17:06] <vagrantc> you'll have to do all the same patching work for the jesse kernels
[17:06] <plugwash> a build cluster in someones basement is a less than an ideal soloution........
[17:07] <vagrantc> no doubt
[17:07] <plugwash> but when setting up the new build cluster we want better build hardware and build hardware that is both better than what we have and affordable currently seems to be "just arround the corner"
[17:09] <plugwash> (currently we use freescale imx53 quickstart boards, they work ok but some packages take days to build on them)
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[17:27] <plugwash> any filterdiff experts arround
[17:28] <plugwash> root@debian:/linux-3.2.35.new/linuxgit# filterdiff -p1 -x .pc ../mergecheck.diff | head
[17:28] <plugwash> only in patch2:
[17:28] <plugwash> unchanged:
[17:28] <plugwash> --- linuxclean/.pc/applied-patches 1970-01-01 00:00:00.000000000 +0000
[17:28] <plugwash> +++ linuxtest/.pc/applied-patches 2013-01-04 16:48:04.000000000 +0000
[17:28] <plugwash> any idea why it isn't filtering out that change?
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[17:31] <vagrantc> plugwash: whitespace differences?
[17:31] <plugwash> nm worked it out, I was screwing up the exclude
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[17:37] <Phonestar> hi
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[17:42] <plugwash> <vagrantc> you'll have to do all the same patching work for the jesse kernels <-- that is why I want this shit scripted
[17:43] <plugwash> and to be able to tell easilly if the script is failing
[17:43] <plugwash> which I THINK i've now acheived (waiting for a final test run)
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[18:00] <vagrantc> plugwash: great
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[18:13] <vagrantc> with the .udebs and all, it should be feasible to get a proper debian-installer image working, too.
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[18:47] <telly> deam,thanks for that link (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LXDE#Autostart_Programs) it took while to understand, but the funnyboat game. now works on autostart :)
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[19:20] <plugwash> vagrantc, the patch generation itself now seems fine, I just had a bit of other cleanup to do
[19:21] <plugwash> hopefully this will be the last run of the generation script before I move on to a test build
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[19:26] <vagrantc> plugwash: exciting!
[19:27] <plugwash> the generation script takes a while due to how massive the linux kernel tree is
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[19:29] <vagrantc> yeah
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[19:30] <vagrantc> of course, 3.2.26 just came out yesterday ... :)
[19:31] <plugwash> you mean .36?
[19:31] <vagrantc> yes.
[19:31] <plugwash> any security fixes?
[19:32] <vagrantc> haven't looked yet.
[19:32] <plugwash> (if not it will probablly take a while to wind it's way through the debian kernel team and release team)
[19:32] <vagrantc> hasn't hit debian yet.
[19:33] <vagrantc> well, members of debian kernel team are the upstream linux-3.2.x maintainers
[19:33] <vagrantc> so probably not too long
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[19:36] <vagrantc> some arm vfp changes in v3.2.36
[19:37] <plugwash> http://paste.debian.net/221701/
[19:37] <plugwash> http://paste.debian.net/221702/
[19:37] <plugwash> those are the current versions of the update scripts
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[19:38] <mashk> HI
[19:38] <mashk> I cannot install python-gevent
[19:38] <mashk> any ideas why? there is package with documentation but library is missing
[19:45] <Vegar> mashk: it failed to build
[19:45] <Vegar> mashk: and it failed to build because some other package failed to build
[19:46] <Vegar> mashk: I've submitted a bug report with a fix
[19:46] <vagrantc> where are the raspbian build logs?
[19:47] <Vegar> mashk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/raspbian/+bug/1093252
[19:47] <Vegar> vagrantc: http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianBuilders
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[19:49] <Vegar> mashk: feel free to click the "this bug affects me too" button
[19:49] <Vegar> since I have no idea how to get the attention of whoever maintains builds
[19:51] <mashk> Vegar, link?
[19:52] <Vegar> mashk: 7 lines above
[19:52] <Vegar> mashk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/raspbian/+bug/1093252
[19:53] <plugwash> I don't think anyone actually reads that launchpad account that mpthompson setup
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[19:54] <Vegar> *sigh*
[19:54] <Vegar> plugwash: what's an appropriate way to report this then?
[19:54] <mashk> Vegar, I dont see button, and I thought lanchpad is ubuntu related
[19:54] <mashk> Vegar, to reportbug tool in rasbian I guess it will forward report to maintainer
[19:55] <plugwash> reportbug will end up in the debian bugtracker
[19:55] <plugwash> which is fine for bugs that affect debian too, not so good for raspbian specific stuff
[19:55] <mashk> plugwash, depends who's in maintaniner field, and I assume it's someone rebuilding packages for rasbian, lemme check
[19:56] <plugwash> mashk, we don't modify maintainer fields
[19:56] <mashk> ah.. ubuntu does
[19:56] <mashk> which is annoying :)
[19:57] <mashk> plugwash, can you tell Vegar how to properly report bugs for Raspian then?
[19:57] <mashk> I am also interested
[19:57] * plugwash isn't sure there is a way at the moment :/
[19:58] <Vegar> plugwash: so how can I get my build-fix into raspbian than?
[19:58] <Vegar> then*
[19:58] <plugwash> probablly for now the raspbian-devel list on alioth is the best place
[19:58] <plugwash> Vegar, i'm not comfortable applying that fix without more explanation
[19:58] <plugwash> in particular i'd like to know why does it work for debian but not for us
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[20:03] <mashk> plugwash, I see it is probably commenting out the registers from which values should be saved, since fp is probably not available on arm platform, but why.. I have no idea
[20:04] <mashk> Vegar, ? talk to plugwash maybe we can get this python-gevent build fixed ? would be nice
[20:05] <Vegar> mashk: I really do not know much more than what has been said here already
[20:05] <Vegar> he does raise an interesting question
[20:05] <Vegar> why does fp work on debian's arm branches?
[20:06] <mashk> maybe they use different compiler?
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[20:09] <plugwash> ok interesting, the version in tpu didn't build on armel in debian either
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[20:11] <mashk> plugwash, well then it should be reported to Debian's as well, maybe it will get fixed faster there
[20:12] <plugwash> and the version in testing was built in debian over a year ago
[20:14] <plugwash> agreed
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[21:10] <vagrantc> clearly, nickgaw, we're not there yet.
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[21:15] <hyde> nicdev: do you see the wlan network interface? would `iwlist wlan0 scan` do it?
[21:15] <vagrantc> anyone had any luck using kexec on the rpi?
[21:15] <hyde> nickgaw: ^ (who is no longer in channel)
[21:15] <vagrantc> i was trying petitboot, but it just froze with the new kernel.
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[21:18] <plugwash> Vegar, what is your email address?
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[21:28] <Vegar> plugwash: storvann@gmail.com
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[21:43] <plugwash> Vegar, just to let you know i've had more of a look at the issue and i've decided on a soloution which I consider acceptable for raspbian
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[21:48] <Vegar> plugwash: looks very sane to me
[21:49] <Vegar> plugwash: thanks for taking this further
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[21:53] <plugwash> my current planned soloution is to use the version of the file from sid
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[22:26] <plugwash> ok python-greenlet built and uploaded
[22:26] <plugwash> python-gevent is now in needs-build and should be picked up by an autobuilder soon
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[22:28] <plugwash> and yes build07 just picked it up
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[22:43] <frambo-pi> saluton :D
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[22:53] <plugwash> hi
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[22:54] <frambo-pi> hi plugwash
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