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[0:42] <Tirili> Hi
[0:42] <Tirili> Is there a mono package for raspbian?
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[0:42] <Tirili> apt-cache show mono
[0:42] <Tirili> doesn't show any :(
[0:46] <plugwash> In debian/raspbian mono is split among a load of packages, there is no package called "mono"
[0:46] <plugwash> Also mono does not currently work properly on raspbian (or on debian armhf for that matter)
[0:47] <Tirili> sudo apt-get install mono-complete
[0:47] <Tirili> Maybe I didn't type in a good regexp for apt-cache show
[0:48] <Tirili> Let me test it. I'm trying to build openra (www.open-ra.org) on the pi.
[0:48] <Tirili> I'd like to test if I can host a dedicated server.
[0:48] <Tirili> on the pi
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[1:38] <Tirili> Is there a nvidia-cg-tools package for raspbian?
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[1:40] <Eoghan> is there a way to force the HDMI video feed to stay on even if there is no TV connected
[1:41] <ParkerR_> Hmm
[1:41] <ParkerR_> What is the purpose of that?
[1:42] <Eoghan> I have found that when I have my rpi sitting there I want to check some thing so I change the TV to input 4 but there is no video feed.
[1:42] <ParkerR_> Oh
[1:42] <ParkerR_> You mean just not go to sleep
[1:42] <Eoghan> it seems that the video feed stops after I change the input on the TV
[1:42] <ParkerR_> Naah
[1:42] <ParkerR_> It continues
[1:42] <Eoghan> or wake up
[1:43] <ParkerR_> Almost like a screensaver
[1:43] <ParkerR_> The Pi by default just throws up a black screen
[1:43] <ParkerR_> And hitting a key brings it back
[1:43] <Eoghan> ahhh no keyboard.
[1:43] <ParkerR_> There is an option somewhere for setting the timeout
[1:43] <Eoghan> oko just a sec
[1:44] <Eoghan> nah if it's a time out I will have to figure out a way to wake the screen
[1:45] <Eoghan> that it had gone dark.
[1:45] <Eoghan> that works... duh
[1:46] <ParkerR_> What works?
[1:47] <Eoghan> it seem thats if I boot and the tv is not on then there is no hdmi out put is there a way to force hdmi
[1:47] <Eoghan> ParkerR_: plugging in a key board woke the screen.
[1:47] <ParkerR_> Ahh
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[1:48] <Eoghan> I was hoping to use the TV as a monitor for system messages but if I have to have a keyboard and have the TV on that input during boot ... that could be a bit of a pain
[1:49] <Eoghan> ParkerR_: do you know if there is a wifi configure txt screen like the one xbian uses?
[1:49] <ParkerR_> Eoghan: hdmi_force_hotplug Pretends HDMI hotplug signal is asserted so it appears a HDMI display is attached
[1:49] <ParkerR_> hdmi_force_hotplug=1 Use HDMI mode even if no HDMI monitor is detected
[1:50] <ParkerR_> Add that to /boot/config.txt
[1:51] <Tirili> How can I find out if there is a nvidia-cg-toolkit package for raspbian? apt-cache show nvidia-cg-toolkit says there is no such package.
[1:51] <ParkerR_> Umm
[1:51] <ParkerR_> Sure this si the right channel? :P
[1:51] <ParkerR_> *is
[1:51] <Tirili> But googling raspbian + nvidia-cg-toolkit gives some sites. But I don't think they are official ones.
[1:52] <Tirili> Why not?
[1:52] <ParkerR_> Nvidia
[1:52] <ParkerR_> Broadcomm
[1:52] <ParkerR_> Kinda different XD
[1:52] <ParkerR_> Seems to be a source package
[1:55] <Tirili> I want to compile openra from www.open-ra.org . The developers said you need the cg-toolkit, even if you don't use an nvidia graphics card.
[1:58] <ParkerR_> Tirili: May not be possible. Only x86 and x86_64 builds http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/nvidia-cg-toolkit
[1:58] <ParkerR_> Why it doesn;t show up in apt-get
[1:58] <ParkerR_> *doesn't
[1:59] <Tirili> http://dpaste.com/868793/
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[2:01] <Tirili> This is the error I get when I try to compile the game. I wonder if it is a problem about mono or about that nvidia-cg-toolkit.
[2:02] <marvinstuart> Wow just which to the armel version because it can better handle mono and is soon slow compared to raspbian
[2:02] <ParkerR_> "OpenRA mentioned earlier uses mono/.net, and I'm afraid that might get too slow."
[2:03] <marvinstuart> Yeah very very slow
[2:03] <marvinstuart> Unusable slow
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[2:05] <Tirili> Why is the armel version faster? I thought, raspbian is faster because it supports the raspberry hardware?
[2:06] <marvinstuart> Armel is slower
[2:06] <Tirili> Didn't you just recommend to switch to the armel version?
[2:07] <Tirili> I'm confused, sorry
[2:07] <marvinstuart> Going back to raspbian waiting for an updated version to handle mono better
[2:07] <marvinstuart> Noooooo
[2:07] <marvinstuart> I switch to test mono
[2:07] <marvinstuart> Because it wasn't working properly on raspbian
[2:08] <marvinstuart> So went to armel
[2:08] <Tirili> um
[2:08] <Tirili> What do you recommend me to do?
[2:08] <marvinstuart> And is was too slow
[2:09] <marvinstuart> So I have to wait on raspbian developer to get mono working properly
[2:09] <marvinstuart> Wait like me
[2:09] <Tirili> I see
[2:09] <marvinstuart> Or try other distro
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[2:10] <marvinstuart> http://elinux.org/RPi_Distributions
[2:10] <marvinstuart> Try them
[2:10] <marvinstuart> No sure which on will work better
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[2:16] <Tirili> thanks
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[2:21] <aidalgol> ma
[2:22] <aidalgol> argh! stupid keys...
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[2:58] <PhotoJim> someone would have to port grub or something similar
[2:59] <PhotoJim> oh, never mind
[2:59] <PhotoJim> I had scrolled up ages ago and forgot to go down to the bottom again :)
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[4:29] <marvinstuart> Cant believe how long it take the use the installer for raspbian
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[4:33] <sney> the pi is many things; fast is not one of them
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[6:52] <intranick> well i gotta say. I recieved my raspberry pi today, got it up and running via raspbian. i love it. it was really easy
[6:53] <intranick> i was worried it would feel super slow. it really doesnt.
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[8:17] <TeraX> Good morning
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[12:59] <SirSqueakyShoes> greetings folks. I jsut set up my pi but a few characters on my keyboard are incorrect. Im banking on a locale setting. Normally, id just browse the settings through xorg but im without a mouse. know how/where I can change my locale?
[13:05] <gnarface> SirSqueakyShoes: try: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[13:05] <gnarface> (then get back to me)
[13:06] <gnarface> SirSqueakyShoes: to be clear; run that from a system console then reboot
[13:06] <gnarface> (just to be sure)
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[13:14] <SirSqueakyShoes> i think its because my keyboard is too generic :-/
[13:15] <SirSqueakyShoes> went through that process and cant find a setting for generic keyboard with like 95 keys
[13:15] <SirSqueakyShoes> brb try again
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[13:20] <gnarface> SirSqueakyShoes: most of such keyboards can be used for at least qwerty input if you can distinguish between whether your NumLock key is on or off
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[13:21] <gnarface> SirSqueakyShoes: i should say "in the us" if you're using some other non-english, non-roman lettering locale, ... fuck. who knows?
[13:21] <gnarface> to late
[13:21] <gnarface> woops
[13:22] <marvinstuart> Gnarface: installed raspbiam via the installer all went great now i want install the desktop environment not sure how, also I get command not found when I do sudu apt-get update
[13:23] <marvinstuart> Sudo
[13:23] <gnarface> marvinstuart: sudo is not installed by default
[13:24] <gnarface> marvinstuart: neither is "desktop environnment"
[13:24] <marvinstuart> Ok
[13:24] <marvinstuart> How do I install them
[13:24] <marvinstuart> Is there a link
[13:24] <gnarface> marvinstuart: in general (on any debian or debian-derivative system) the command is: apt-get install [package name]
[13:25] <gnarface> marvinstuart: where [package name] is the literal name of whatever package you're trying to install
[13:25] <marvinstuart> Okm
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[13:26] <gnarface> marvinstuart: finding the package names themselves specifically (which may vary from distro to distro even if they're all using *.deb related package systems) is left as an exercise for the reader.....
[13:26] <marvinstuart> Ahh ok
[13:27] <marvinstuart> Ok for example where get desktop environment
[13:28] <gnarface> most of them have a meta-package that gets the whole thing automatically
[13:28] <marvinstuart> I did apt-get desktopenvironmentn
[13:28] <marvinstuart> Didn't work
[13:28] <gnarface> right
[13:28] <gnarface> because "desktopenvirontm" is not a package or even a word
[13:28] <marvinstuart> I sorry the spelling
[13:28] <gnarface> immaterial
[13:28] <gnarface> that never would have worked regardless of speling
[13:29] <marvinstuart> Ok
[13:29] <marvinstuart> What should I have used
[13:30] <gnarface> assumign there WAS a package named "desktopenvironmentn" you would have used the commmand: apt-get update && apt-get install desktopenvironmentn
[13:30] <gnarface> but since there is not a package named that
[13:30] <gnarface> you're fucked
[13:30] <gnarface> you need to figure out the right package name
[13:30] <gnarface> usually this has something to do with the desktop environment you wish to use
[13:31] <gnarface> usually its a meta-package that automatically includes all the dependencies without judging you
[13:31] <marvinstuart> Ok
[13:32] <gnarface> (not always)
[13:34] <marvinstuart> Last question i am at the root When I do install says could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkgl/lock - open (13 permission denied)
[13:39] <gnarface> you're root when it says that?
[13:39] <gnarface> sounds disturbing....
[13:49] <marvinstuart> Fixed item
[13:49] <marvinstuart> Su
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[15:41] <raytray> Is there something I can use to monitor the temperature of rpi? It reboots every week or so and not sure.
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[15:52] <Adohveih> hi. i try to use Live TV with my raspberry and a supported dvb-t usb stick (already generated channels.conf for vdr sucessfully), but i cant get it running. it seems "vdr-plugin-vnsiserver" or "vdr-plugin-xvdr" is missing. i cant get it onto my raspberry :( please help
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[17:29] <ebraminio> hey guys, please have a look at this http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/4414/irc-xmpp-web-based-chat-client-or-bnc :)
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[17:45] <Amadiro> ebraminio, any open-source bouncer/client will work
[17:46] <Amadiro> I don't know of any in particular that are web-based
[17:46] <Amadiro> I think something like znc is pretty much the best solution.
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[19:06] <ebraminio> Amadiro, not any, https://github.com/thedjpetersen/subway this one that is for IRC (and not XMPP) is using mongodb and compiling (will take 7-8 hour to compile) and using mongodb in raspberry is not a good idea
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[19:57] <giggls> hello, can I report raspbian bugs here?
[19:58] <raytray> giggls, http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianBugs is better I think
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[19:59] <giggls> hm, who is responsible for the w1-gpio kernel module? Raspbian or Pi Foundation?
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[20:07] <giggls> does raspbian even use its own kernel or should I better report at https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues?
[20:07] * vagrantc worked on getting a raspbian packaged kernel
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[20:08] <vagrantc> giggls: should be in the repository now as linux-image-3.2.0-4-rpi
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[20:08] <vagrantc> but by default, it uses a different kernel
[20:09] <giggls> its calling itself "3.2.27+" from the standard raspbian image
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[20:09] <giggls> I have an oops in the w1-gpio module
[20:10] <giggls> so the question is where to report
[20:10] <vagrantc> yes, but you can also install a newer version of the kernel using "apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-4-rpi"
[20:10] <vagrantc> see if you can reproduce it with that
[20:11] <giggls> 3.2.0 is newer than 3.2.27?
[20:11] <vagrantc> it's actually 3.2.35
[20:11] <vagrantc> that's just the package name
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[20:13] <giggls> hm, according to dpkg /lib/modules/3.2.27+/kernel/drivers/w1/masters/w1-gpio.ko belongs to a package called raspberrypi-bootloader
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[20:20] <twolife> vagrantc: do you have any idea if "your" linux-image-3.2.0-4-rpi will works with the latest bootloader/gpu_firm/libgles from https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware ? the fondation always update kernel & bootloader at the same time, so i wonder if there will not be some incompatibily somewhere
[20:20] <vagrantc> no idea.
[20:21] <Shinda> hello
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[20:21] <vagrantc> well, what i did was use the partition 1 from the wheezy raspbian image, and then copied my kernel + initrd and tweaked the settings.
[20:21] <vagrantc> so i've only tested with the firmwares that went with the 3.2.27+ version
[20:21] <vagrantc> that seemed to work fine.
[20:23] <twolife> i have already updated my setup to the "firmware package" with a 3.6.11 kernel, i fear it will not work :/
[20:26] <giggls> talking about newer kernels, would f2fs be something to consider using instead of ext4?
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[20:33] <sheldor> hey i installed xbmc and i get 100% cpu on idle, i read on https://github.com/OpenELEC/OpenELEC.tv/issues/607 that i should disable RSS in "system > appearance > skin > RSS", but the problem is the option does not exist in my version!! i have 12 RC3, can anybody help me?
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[21:14] <twolife> vagrantc: how does it works for the initramfs with the linux-image-3.2.0-4-rpi package ? i read on http://elinux.org/RPiconfig that i should add something like "initramfs initramf.gz 0x00800000" to my config.txt . how do i know what address to use ? is 0x00800000 safe ?
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[21:27] <vagrantc> twolife: i don't remember what i used exactly- try it and find out.
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[21:28] <vagrantc> twolife: worst that happens is it'll fail to boot
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[22:59] <Adohveih> hi, did someone try hard disk encryption with raspberry as NAS? if so, how is the performance?
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[23:11] * plugwash runs a test programs and notes that user mode qemu on a 64-bit host gives considerbly more virtual address space than a real arm system
[23:12] * plugwash hopes that will be enough to link chromium with bfd for raspbian
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[23:16] <twolife> plugwash: just for information (because i suspect you are not aware of this yet) : i played with your linux-image-3.2.0-4-rpi package. It boots correctly, but (there always a "but"...) : i can't use the newest bootload/lib*.so from https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware with that kernel :/
[23:16] <plugwash> :(
[23:16] <twolife> iquake3, xbmc,... everything fails to start
[23:17] <plugwash> so the firmware and videocore libs are in sync but the kernel is the raspbian one instead of the rpf one?
[23:18] <twolife> correct
[23:18] <ParkerR_> twolife: Aww
[23:18] <ParkerR_> All working fine here
[23:18] <ParkerR_> Oh messing with custom builds
[23:18] <ParkerR_> Just ignore me XD
[23:18] <plugwash> sadly I don't see we have a lot of choice in that case
[23:19] <plugwash> we can't really go shipping a kernel in raspbian that doesn't work properly with the rpfs latest firmware/libs
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[23:21] <twolife> plugwash: i suppose there is hope to use http://snapshot.debian.org/package/linux/3.6.9-1~experimental.1/ as a base to build a raspbian 3.6
[23:21] <twolife> kernel
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[23:22] <plugwash> yeah, unfortunately the last 3.6 kernel debian packaged in some way behind the last 3.6 kernel :(
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[23:26] <twolife> they jumped from 3.5 to 3.7 directly if i remenber
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[23:29] <plugwash> mmm looks like they did
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[23:32] <Varro> hola! I was wondering if any of you knew of a noob-friendly LAMP guide for raspbian?
[23:33] * plugwash wonders why people need guides for stuff like that
[23:35] <ParkerR_> Varro: There are much better way to go than apache
[23:35] <ParkerR_> And by better I mean less resource intensive
[23:35] <ParkerR_> nginx
[23:35] <ParkerR_> lighttpd
[23:35] <plugwash> if you literally want lamp then apt-get install apache2 php5 php5-mysql mysql-server mysql-client
[23:35] <plugwash> ParkerR_, true nginx is faster, it's a bit trickier to setup though
[23:36] <plugwash> because you have to use php5-fpm and manually configure nginx to talk to it
[23:38] <Varro> well to be honest i really dont need apache
[23:38] <Varro> i jsut thought LAMP was a saying =)
[23:39] <Varro> what i need is mySQL and phpmyadmin .
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[23:41] <Varro> i need a guide, because i tried doing apt-get install ..... and apache worked, but not phpmyadmin
[23:42] <Varro> also, i'm retarded when it comes to linux =)
[23:42] <Essobi> HERP
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