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IRC Log for 2013-05-22

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[0:30] <MandrakeF> plugwash? you there?
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[0:31] <MandrakeF> can you make this kernel image into a .deb for my the buildscript
[0:31] <MandrakeF> http://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-raspberry-pi-educational-linux-distro/occidentalis-v0-dot-2
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[1:23] <MandrakeF> hello
[1:26] <passstab> hi MandrakeF
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[2:00] <gnarface> hey so i'd like to get started playing with gpio
[2:01] <gnarface> but i know almost nothing about it aside from where its located on my rpi
[2:01] <gnarface> i do know *very* basic circuitry principles and have successfully soldered wires before
[2:02] <gnarface> where should i start reading? i was hoping for more general documentation (formulaic approaches to things to do as opposed to "follow these 10 steps to get a power button for your RPi, derp!"
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[2:03] <gnarface> ideally it'd be documentation i could use to start programming general interfaces to standardized/documented gpio add-on devices
[2:03] <gnarface> without actually having them
[2:03] <gnarface> (testing the pin-outs with a volt meter or an LED or something)
[2:04] <gnarface> since i already know the basics of programming in several languages, it seems like i could interface with the GPIO really easily if i had the right starting point
[2:04] <gnarface> my initial idea would be to use the GPIO to drive lighting fixtures or some simple servos
[2:05] <gnarface> some people have told me there are gpio breakout board kits specifically for this purpose
[2:05] <gnarface> but all the stuff i've seen was specific to A purpose
[2:05] <gnarface> (aka, not actually a break-out board for multiple purposes)
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[2:18] * burbankboy Can someone please tell me how to emulate a key input using a script? Because I'd really like to prevent the screen darkening from frequently happening on my pi :(
[2:18] <burbankboy> Can someone please tell me how to emulate a key input using a script? Because I'd really like to prevent the screen darkening from frequently happening on my pi :( *
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[2:32] <gnarface> burbankboy: holy crap dude. thank god you mentioned *why* you wanted to do that. your whole idea of how to accomplish this is super fucked up man!!! all you gotta do is disable screen blanking for fuck's sake! i think its like this: xset dmps 0 0 0
[2:32] <gnarface> bam, no more blanking!
[2:32] <burbankboy> Well, I prefer to use a GUI
[2:33] <burbankboy> I don't like to input stuff that disappears out into nothingness
[2:33] <burbankboy> and that i can't keep track of with my current skill level
[2:33] <burbankboy> but
[2:33] <burbankboy> I found XScreenSaver
[2:33] <burbankboy> so im goo
[2:33] <burbankboy> d
[2:33] <gnarface> dude xscreensaver won't help
[2:33] <gnarface> that's another layer
[2:33] <gnarface> x will still blank on its own
[2:34] <gnarface> do this
[2:34] <gnarface> type: man xset
[2:34] <burbankboy> is display: 0; the default screen?
[2:34] <gnarface> 0.0, yes
[2:34] <gnarface> unless you already have one running...
[2:34] <gnarface> they will increment
[2:35] <gnarface> you can have more than one
[2:35] <gnarface> but seriously, man xset, scroll down past OPTIONS to where it has dpms settings
[2:35] <gnarface> you can disable xorg blanking permanetly
[2:35] <gnarface> just put that in your startup scripts
[2:36] <gnarface> do you use a graphical login manager, or do you login in text and run startx?
[2:40] <burbankboy> okay well
[2:41] <burbankboy> one sec please, i need to close down my workspace
[2:41] <burbankboy> so i can focus on this
[2:41] <burbankboy> one min pls :)
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[2:55] <adityosn> hai bro
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[5:29] * pablocastellanos downloading a raspbian image to first boot my brand new raspberry pi
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[13:45] <timmmaaaayyy> can anyone help me disable screen blanking? i'm using my pi as a kiosk to display dashboards that my company monitors. i start chromium via .xinitrc (so that i don't have to run xstart and waste memory), but the screen blanks after 10 minutes no matter what i do
[13:45] <gordonDrogon> look at the xset command (run it just before you launch chromium)
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[13:46] <i-me> hi guys!
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[15:10] <timmmaaaayyy> gordonDrogon: didn't work. it's still turning off the screen
[15:11] <gordonDrogon> timmmaaaayyy, Hm. so it's not X blanking the screen - I was under the impression that X took priority over th econsoel blankling.
[15:11] <timmmaaaayyy> nevermind....i think i know why
[15:11] <gordonDrogon> ok
[15:11] <timmmaaaayyy> a script rewrote the file without the xset stuff after i put it in there.....fixing that and testing again.....
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[15:14] <gordonDrogon> xset s off (or somthing like that)
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[15:17] <gordonDrogon> if that doesn't work, look at setterm -blank 0 (IIRC) you can set this at boot in /etc/kbd/config
[15:17] <timmmaaaayyy> i'm doing xset s off, xset -dpms, xset s noblank
[15:17] <timmmaaaayyy> lets see what ahppens
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[16:36] <bofh80> excuse me if i've missed something obvious, but i'm having problems getting my audio working on the rpi, i've use the raspbian installer to install the default armhf packages, i've gone through all the docs and no audio via hdmi, i'm wondering if i need to update the firmware, hexxahs' tools dispaered unless it's somewhere new, and the raspbian image from the foundation won't load on my rpi either, tips? :)
[16:37] <bofh80> i have one of the early models
[16:38] <Mogwai> bofh80: 1) Check volume level in alsamixer … 2) amixer cset numid=3 2 … 3) Uncomment hdmi_drive=2 in /boot/config.txt
[16:39] <bofh80> Mogwai: did all that, although my original /boot/config.txt was just blank to start
[16:39] <bofh80> >>i posted this a few days back<<hey everyone, i'm sure you must get this everyday, but i can't get sound working out to my hdmi tv.....i got the snd_bcm2835 loading on boot, i've install alsa-base, checked alsamixer, put hdmi_drive 2 into /boot/config.txt and tried amixer cset numid=3 2 . helpsie pls :) :D
[16:40] <Mogwai> Oh yeah, then I think I'm all stumped … did you try to dd a fresh foundation image .. just for the hell of it?
[16:40] <bofh80> yeah, my rpi won't actually boot with it on the SD card. i figure again, it might be my way out of date firmware
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[16:41] <bofh80> it's a 256meg model if that makes a difference B i think, so the first batch almost i think
[16:41] <Mandrake_Linux> hello plguwash?
[16:41] <Mandrake_Linux> Ahahaha! Baster Operator From Hell 80
[16:41] <Mandrake_Linux> :D
[16:41] <bofh80> :P
[16:41] <Mandrake_Linux> *Bastard
[16:42] <bofh80> i am not responsible if you get banned for swearing. muhahahaha
[16:42] <Mandrake_Linux> Anway
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[16:43] <Mandrake_Linux> who can pack a kernel.deb for me if i give you the kernel?
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[16:44] <Mandrake_Linux> I need adafruit's black raspberry kernel
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[16:45] <Mandrake_Linux> And this autobuilder that plugwash gave me gets the kernel from a deb
[16:45] <Mandrake_Linux> but its the stock kernel
[16:46] <Mandrake_Linux> I could zip the version of the kernel i want up and give it to someone whos willing to make the deb
[16:47] <Mandrake_Linux> then i can send the deb to plugwash to put on the offical repo
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[16:50] <Mandrake_Linux> Nevermind.. I found the direct link
[16:50] <Mandrake_Linux> http://adafruit-raspberry-pi.s3.amazonaws.com/OccidentalisV02Kernel.tgz
[16:50] <Mandrake_Linux> Have to reboot my linuxbox
[16:50] <Mandrake_Linux> damn updates!!!!!!!!!!
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[17:49] <timmmaaaayyy> if i'm running my pi as a kiosk......jsut chrome sitting there displaying a static page, what would be the best memory split?
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[17:52] <timmmaaaayyy> 16, yes?
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[18:38] <MandrakeF> Hello
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[18:47] <demure> MandrakeF: hello
[18:48] <MandrakeF> I dont mean to be a scrub
[18:48] <MandrakeF> but
[18:49] <MandrakeF> could you pack me a deb
[18:49] <MandrakeF> Adafruit released there black raspberry kernel
[18:49] <MandrakeF> Or atleast explian how i would pack a deb?
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[19:46] <gordonDrogon> wonder what adafruit think they're gaining by using their own distro as opposed to raspbian...
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[19:48] <blkhawk> gordonDrogon: well maybe they want to do some things differently
[19:49] <blkhawk> anyway - whats the best media center for the pi
[19:49] <blkhawk> all i have tried have annoying lag
[19:49] <blkhawk> I recently aquired a few 42" screens
[19:49] <blkhawk> broken but now de-broken and in working order
[19:50] <blkhawk> :)
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[20:02] <gordonDrogon> I don't really do media myself... I installed raspbmc once - it seemed to work, but who knows if that's the best. I used it ti play one TV show and that was that.
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[20:05] <linuxstb> blkhawk: What "all" did you try? Isn't there just xbmc at the end of the day?
[20:06] <blkhawk> ah - I meant i tried the three flavors that are out there
[20:06] <linuxstb> There are some other things in development I know of, but nothing really usable yet. But I expect there to be some alternatives to xbmc.
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[20:07] <linuxstb> e.g. the port of "showtime" to the Pi - https://www.lonelycoder.com/showtime/
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[20:07] <blkhawk> ooooh
[20:07] <blkhawk> xbmc has some realkly annoing ui issues too
[20:08] <linuxstb> I'm personally developing "pidvbip" - https://github.com/linuxstb/pidvbip/ - it's mainly a client for tvheadend, but will have basic media playback as well eventually. The aim of pidvbip is to be as lightweight as possible, and designed within the limitations of the Pi.
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[20:32] <blkhawk> I will take a look
[20:32] <blkhawk> I have other options for a PVR / media center
[20:32] <blkhawk> well bedroom youtube center
[20:33] <blkhawk> but the pi is ideal since i can use it to save 10watts of standby on the 42" via a relais
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[20:40] <linuxstb> blkhawk: What TV backend do you use?
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[20:42] <blkhawk> tv backend?
[20:42] <blkhawk> not following :) i could add a dvb-t stick but i do not see the point
[20:42] <blkhawk> :)
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[20:49] <linuxstb> blkhawk: You mentioned PVR, and for that, you need PVR software. Or maybe I misunderstood.
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[20:51] <burbankboy> how can i run a bash script on DE launch?
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[20:56] <blkhawk> linuxstb: well maybe i was phrasing it wrong
[20:57] <blkhawk> I plann to try some local mass storage and recording but it would be just an experiment
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[21:18] <gordonDrogon> anyone know how to get some new raspberry pi packages installed?
[21:18] <gordonDrogon> I'm upgrading a somewhat old SD card in a new Pi and can't find e.g. raspi-copies-and-fills yet it's a package on another raspbian Pi.
[21:18] <gordonDrogon> I've checked /etc/apt/sources.list, etc. all identical on both Pi's.
[21:19] <linuxstb> And /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[21:19] <gordonDrogon> identical.
[21:19] <linuxstb> And you've done "apt-get update" ?
[21:20] <gordonDrogon> identially empty, that is.
[21:20] <gordonDrogon> yes - done an update.
[21:20] <linuxstb> Ah, I have raspi.list in mine - deb http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/ wheezy main
[21:20] <gordonDrogon> thats in source.list - the .d is empty.
[21:20] <linuxstb> Unless that's in your sources.list directly.
[21:21] <linuxstb> gordonDrogon: Then the world has gone mad.
[21:21] <gordonDrogon> Oh hang on. I'm looking at 2 windows on the same Pi - Doh!
[21:22] <linuxstb> Or you have ;)
[21:22] <gordonDrogon> deb http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/ wheezy main contrib non-free rpi
[21:22] <gordonDrogon> Yes, I have. that's my reference Pi - the deb http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/ wheezy main is all that's in the new Pi.
[21:23] <gordonDrogon> sometimes you just have to have another pair of eyes!
[21:24] <linuxstb> Glad I could help.
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[21:38] <burbankboy> OKAY
[21:38] <burbankboy> HOW
[21:38] <burbankboy> THE
[21:38] <burbankboy> FUCK
[21:38] <burbankboy> DO I AUTOEXEC A BASH LINE ON DE BOOT?!
[21:38] <burbankboy> CAN SOMEONE GIVE ME A SINGLE, CLEAR-CUT ANSWER?!
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[21:39] <burbankboy> I've been googling and asking around for two god damn hours
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[21:41] <linuxstb> burbankboy: Well, what desktop environment are you using?
[21:42] <burbankboy> LXDE or whatever comes with the raspberrypi.org package
[21:42] <burbankboy> and bash for shell
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[21:42] <burbankboy> inside the DE
[21:45] <linuxstb> burbankboy: Lots of advice here - http://askubuntu.com/questions/166777/how-can-you-make-a-sh-file-come-on-at-startup-in-lubuntu-12-04
[21:45] <linuxstb> The last answer seems the easiest.
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[21:56] <burbankboy> I've tried /etc/.config/autoexec and putting sudo ~/script.sh there
[21:56] <burbankboy> didnt start
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[21:57] <burbankboy> then I tried that rc.init thing, put sh ~/script.sh
[21:57] <burbankboy> didnt work either
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[21:58] <linuxstb> /etc/.config/autoexec doesn't sound like the right place.
[21:58] <linuxstb> /etc/xdg/autostart/ ?
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[22:01] <linuxstb> Apparently you just need to do this "as root user add to the /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart file a line @sh /home/user/.config/autostart/the.sh and restart the computer. "
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[22:02] <linuxstb> The actual script can be anywhere - so you could add "@sh /home/user/myscript.sh"
[22:02] <linuxstb> And make sure the script has the executable bit set.
[22:04] <burbankboy> hm
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[22:37] <gnarface> /etc/.config/autoexec looks like someone read ~/.config/autoexec and didn't know it meant /home/myuser/.config/autoexec
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[22:44] <burbankboy> linuxstb:
[22:45] <burbankboy> rebooting
[22:45] <burbankboy> the moment of truth
[22:46] <burbankboy> didnt work
[22:46] <burbankboy> as i thoguht
[22:46] <burbankboy> nothing happens when this god damn desktop boots
[22:46] <burbankboy> o
[22:46] <burbankboy> it does
[22:46] <burbankboy> but not as i specified in my script
[22:46] <burbankboy> it runs windowed instead of fullscreen
[22:46] <burbankboy> wtf
[22:47] <burbankboy> and my other apps dont run
[22:47] <burbankboy> this is weird
[22:47] <burbankboy> why does my script only semi-work from within this autoboot?
[22:47] <burbankboy> while it works 100% perfect from within the terminal?
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[23:30] <burbankboy> god
[23:30] <burbankboy> nothing is wroking
[23:30] <burbankboy> working*
[23:30] <burbankboy> how can it be SO FUCKING HARD
[23:30] <burbankboy> TO BOOT A FUCKING SCRIPT
[23:30] <burbankboy> ON THIS
[23:30] <burbankboy> FUCKING
[23:30] <burbankboy> GOD DAMN
[23:30] <burbankboy> DE
[23:30] <ParkerR> burbankboy, :(
[23:31] <ParkerR> burbankboy, What are you trying to get running?
[23:32] <burbankboy> a fucking terminal script
[23:32] <ParkerR> What is the script
[23:32] <ParkerR> Function
[23:34] <vagrantc> burbankboy: could you not spam the channel with your anger, please, it doesn't really make it work any better.
[23:34] <ParkerR> lxterminal --command /path/to/some/program
[23:37] <burbankboy> ParkerR: that appears to work somewhat
[23:38] <burbankboy> lemme try
[23:40] <burbankboy> ParkerR: didnt work
[23:40] <burbankboy> nothing happened
[23:40] <burbankboy> when i put it in the autostart file
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[23:41] <ParkerR> What does your file look like
[23:41] <ParkerR> Pastebin it
[23:43] <burbankboy> ParkerR: http://pastebin.com/NNNcZfHy
[23:45] <ParkerR> Umm
[23:45] <ParkerR> Where are you getting -e Fullscreen from?
[23:45] <ParkerR> There isn't even an e arguemnt in the man pages
[23:46] <ParkerR> Oh heh that actually opens fullscreen
[23:46] <ParkerR> Ok so
[23:47] <ParkerR> (Tested that myself. Didnt actually think it did anything
[23:48] <ParkerR> Oh
[23:48] <ParkerR> Try taking out the #!/bin/bash
[23:48] <ParkerR> As far as I know LXDE/openbox doesnt need it in the openbox file
[23:48] <burbankboy> ok
[23:48] <ParkerR> *autostart file
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[23:50] <burbankboy> didnt do anything
[23:51] <ParkerR> Where do you have this file and what is it named exactly?
[23:51] <ParkerR> Because that should work
[23:56] <burbankboy> ParkerR: The file is in /home/user/myScript.sh
[23:56] <ParkerR> How are you calling it?
[23:59] <burbankboy> from /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart

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