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IRC Log for 2013-08-19

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[2:54] <alpha1125> Anyone know if a cli wizzard to configure/setup wpa2 wirless connection? cnetworkmanager isn't available via apt-get
[2:55] <gnarface> sorry alpha1125 ... never used one myself, i just set it up by hand
[2:56] <gnarface> seriously the text format of the /etc/network/interfaces file is far simpler and more robust than any gui network configuration util you're gonna find
[2:56] <keyvin> yeah its painless
[2:56] <keyvin> seriously
[2:57] <alpha1125> let me try it again. http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-linux-wpa-wpa2-wireless-wifi-networking/ I was using this as my guide.
[2:57] <gnarface> unofficial howtos
[2:57] <gnarface> that's a big tactical error
[2:58] <gnarface> alpha1125: explain to me in what way did you follow this? did you skip to the end where it says "a note about gui configuration tool" and ignore the rest?
[2:59] <gnarface> alpha1125: it actually looks like you should have a working network config already before installing the gui if you actually followed that
[2:59] <alpha1125> gnarface, lol, no.
[2:59] <alpha1125> gnarface, I had this all setup before, before the image on the sd card died.
[3:00] <gnarface> backups are important when using flash as your primary storage :(
[3:14] <alpha1125> BHA! all I had to do was reboot.
[3:14] <alpha1125> works now.
[3:29] <gnarface> ah
[3:29] <gnarface> next time when removing/renaming a device in /etc/network/interfaces, stop the network before changing the file then start it after and you probably can avoid rebooting
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[4:44] <rotorgeek> Anyone running a Pi that uses the Screen command? I'm trying to figure out how to launch a program via /etc/rc.local
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[4:51] <wuh> hi
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[5:44] <gnarface> rotorgeek: don't do that with screen, just do this: some_command.sh > /dev/null 2>&1
[5:45] <gnarface> rotorgeek: you need to look into redirecting stdio from bash
[5:45] <gnarface> rotorgeek: stdio and named pipes
[5:45] <hifi> it's fairly normal to start a screen session on boot to run some arbitrary non-daemon software
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[5:45] <hifi> though I would use @reboot cron job for that as a regular user
[5:46] <hifi> if the program doesn't need root access
[5:46] <gnarface> hifi: i would just bucket stderror and write a wrapper script that knows what to do instead
[5:46] <hifi> it depends on the software what works the best, if you need to control it via stdin later on a screen session isn't that far fetched
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[6:32] <ElTimo1> Does anyone have a moderately acceptable desktop system running with Wayland?
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[8:53] <dexta> hello monday
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[10:25] <Archiater> Hello guyz. Could anyone advice me nice fb player which wouldn lag playing full-hd video on raspberry pi?
[10:26] <Archiater> I have tried mplayer for now, but it seems quite slow
[10:26] <hifi> omxplayer might be the only one that offloads decoding H.264 to the hardware decoder
[10:27] <hifi> but even then you must be using supported H.264 codec, won't help with 1080p DivX for example
[10:27] <hifi> and for MPEG-2 you need to buy the codec license from the foundation
[10:30] <Archiater> hifi: thanks for a quick answer! have you tried software decoding? does it overload cpu to much? in case i don't run any software but player?
[10:30] <hifi> assuming omxplayer can do hardware scaling for any input video, anything non-hd would probably play fine if the codec isn't very cpu intensive
[10:31] <Archiater> hifi: ok, i'll give it a try. thanks again
[10:31] <hifi> it would be the best for your input video to be H.264, then you should have no issues
[10:32] <hifi> or MPEG-2 with the license
[10:32] <hifi> there's also VC-1 license but it's rather useless for most people
[10:35] <Archiater> well, i have an option for reencoding video stream on separate server using ffmpeg, but i perfer not to overload it, encoding is costly process
[10:36] <Archiater> so it would be nice if i could just cache any video on actual raspi device and play it
[10:37] <hifi> if it's high quality video, I doubt it plays if it's not in H.264
[10:38] <Archiater> Just to be clear. What i'm trying to achive is a media server where user could upload any video file, and raspberi py would grab it and play
[10:38] <hifi> if you use an eye patch then you should be quite fine
[10:39] <hifi> the CPU isn't good enough to decode high quality streams in anything else than H.264
[10:40] <hifi> your cellphone probably has more juice in it than the pi
[10:41] <Archiater> well, my cellphone cost a fortune versus 25 gpb =)
[10:42] <hifi> re-encoding anything non-H.264 is probably your best bet
[10:42] <Archiater> Ok, so generaly idea is, encode any HD video to H.264 via ffmpeg, and only then stream it
[10:42] <Archiater> got it
[10:43] <hifi> pretty much, for best results encode anything non-H.264
[10:44] <hifi> even with H.264 you have a marginal possibility to have such encoding settings the hardware decoder couldn't play it
[10:44] <hifi> according to little birds some anime is encoded in H.264 with weird color encoding that most hardware players don't support
[10:45] <hifi> afaik for such low color space it reduces file size while keeping it high quality
[10:46] <hifi> mm, not necessarily smaller file size, I don't really know
[10:48] <hifi> ok, so apparently it does just that, better image quality and smaller size
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[10:51] <Archiater> it there any way to check supported colorspace before actually playing video?
[10:51] <hifi> yes, you should be able to use some tools to find out the encoding settings
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[10:53] <hifi> ffmpeg probably has some info tool to query that
[10:53] <Archiater> ok, thanks for a third time =) I will check out player for now, and try to integrate it into system.
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[10:55] <hifi> I'd probably do some high bitrate low compress encoding to speed up encoding process
[10:55] <hifi> depends if the pi needs to store any of the content too
[10:55] <hifi> I wouldn't trust the SD card to be very fast source for high bitrate, over network it probably could decode higher bitrate video
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[11:03] <kleanchap> I am trying to use a few torrent clients on Raspbian to download some Linux distros. The clients are up but not connectinng to any peers. The gateway router for the RPI is the same one used by the Windows box. Torrent download on Windows works fine but it is not working on RPI. Any ideas what I need to look for?
[11:07] <hifi> if you use utorrent on windows it probably does UPnP port forwarding by default
[11:13] <kleanchap> hifi, How do I fix the problem on Raspbian?
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[12:20] <fatal> do you guys have a buildd tracking debian unstable?
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[12:23] <gnarface> fatal: i'm not sure but i think not
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[12:24] <fatal> gnarface: I guessed so, but wanted to ask... thanks for semi-confirmation.
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[12:36] <hifi> fatal: jessie is tracked though
[12:37] <hifi> you can for example use raspbian-ua-netinst to directly install a minimal jessie or dist-upgrade current wheezy to jessie
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[13:55] <fatal> hifi: ok, thanks for the info!
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[16:44] <josvuk> hello, what to do lsmod don't list me nothing about i2c :-( but I have a hwclock from raspicom board
[16:45] <josvuk> how to change the default user pi?
[16:46] <josvuk> can I run programes automaticaly after booting without the need to be looged in?
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[16:49] <josvuk> Hm, uname -a reports me Linux but there is nothing about raspbian, so Am I right in this chatroom?
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[17:03] <josvuk> hm, what to add in /etc/modules ?
[17:03] <josvuk> i2c-dev only or i2c_bcm2708 too ?
[17:04] <keyvin> josvuk: you can run commands in rc.local
[17:04] <keyvin> just make sure they don't block - you might need to put an & at the end of them
[17:04] <keyvin> to send them to the background
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[17:07] <josvuk> keyvin: Ah thx,
[17:09] <josvuk> What is the preferd way of shutingdown the raspbian if I don't have a keybord for typing shutdown now?
[17:09] <josvuk> I have only an on-off switch on the frontplate :-)
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[17:16] <josvuk> Is it save if I shutdown raspbian over a ssh login?
[17:17] <josvuk> so I'm on my raspberry over an ssh concection so can I do sudo shutdown now?
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[17:18] <josvuk> And than plug off the powercord from the raspberry without killing something ?
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[17:30] <josvuk> hm, if I do apt-cache search i2c it lists me i2c-tools
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[17:31] <josvuk> so does this means I can install it wiht apt-ge install without to have to download it first?
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[17:38] <sney> josvuk: apt-cache searches a list it keeps in /var/cache/apt, but only the packages you've downloaded previously will be installable without downloading
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[18:03] <josvuk> Can the i2c-tools be installed from source ?
[18:03] <josvuk> are all dependencies installed on raspbian os?
[18:04] <josvuk> I have no working internet conection on the raspberrypi :-(
[18:05] <josvuk> but can load the i2c tarball over a usbstick.
[18:05] <masACC> sigh, second time now. anyone with good recommendation for memory card for rootfs that won't break all the time, or some other solution?
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[20:18] <MrMonotone> hello
[20:23] <plugwash> hi
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[20:27] <MrMonotone> If I use the Raspberry Pi as a headless server, Will there be a overall performance increase in Arch compared to Raspian?
[20:32] <PhotoJim> test and see. subtle, if any.
[20:34] <MrMonotone> PhotoJim: Thanks
[20:36] <PhotoJim> np
[20:36] <PhotoJim> either will work well
[20:36] <PhotoJim> I use RAspbian because I'm familiar with Debianesque distros
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[21:37] <josvuk> Hello, Is there a Howto crosscompile the i2c-tools on a 386 machine for raspberry target?
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[21:38] <josvuk> what march options to use? there are a lot of arm options in gcc :-(
[21:38] <josvuk> Does someone have a ready compiled i2c-tools ?
[21:41] <josvuk> Would it be enoguh if I copy the i2cdetect to my raspberrypi for scaning for i2c devices? the i2c kernel modul I have succesfully installed .
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[21:42] <josvuk> Is there hwclock on raspian 3.6.x?
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[21:43] <josvuk> hm, how to enable internet on raspbian? pon ?
[21:44] <PhotoJim> easiest: plug in Ethernet connected to a switch with a router on it :)
[21:45] <josvuk> how to dial in to my isp?
[21:47] <Odie_> vwdial
[21:47] <josvuk> I have only a switch without a router, or is it called a hub?
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[21:48] <Odie_> just think of the thing like any computer
[21:48] <Odie_> its no different
[21:48] <Odie_> afk
[21:48] <josvuk> hm, how to cut my conection on dsl0 to my provider on opensuse? My provider does'nt allow double conections :-( he wrote me from time to time letters :-(
[21:50] <josvuk> hm, so vwdial is it installed per default on raspbian?
[21:53] <josvuk> what's about the composite out from raspberrypi. I have a rca plug solderd on the pcb is it dangerus for the gpu if I make an short ?
[21:56] <josvuk> I have to type the hole ip for login ssh 192.168.0.20 -l pi then I am loged in on pi@2mfm
[21:57] <josvuk> How to make it working ssh 2mfm -l pi (stands for 2 meter freqeuncy modulation)
[21:58] <josvuk> How to change the user pi to myname?
[21:59] <PhotoJim> josvuk: radio amateur? but to answer your question, you need domain name resolution on your router, or you need a local hosts file for every machine you want to use the Pi from that resolves that name to that IP. and you need to ensure the Pi always gets that IP. so there are several steps.
[22:00] <josvuk> Hm, there is no manualpage for vwdial :-(
[22:01] <josvuk> Photojim: so far Im only swl :-)
[22:01] <PhotoJim> hmm, my installs have a man page. but don't have wvdial on my Pis.
[22:01] <PhotoJim> josvuk: <- VE5EIS
[22:02] <josvuk> my raspbian don't have both no man page of vwdial nor vwdial itself :-(
[22:03] <josvuk> photojim: ve5eis is it a call should I google around?
[22:03] <PhotoJim> josvuk: it's my callsign.
[22:03] <josvuk> ah 73
[22:03] <PhotoJim> josvuk: VE = Canada, 5 = Saskatchewan
[22:04] <josvuk> cool :-( maybe someday we can have a qso ....
[22:05] <PhotoJim> I've only had my callsign since April.
[22:05] <PhotoJim> I have an HF rig now but still am working on getting an antenna set up.
[22:05] <PhotoJim> so I've mostly been using the local 2 metre repeaters.
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[22:05] <PhotoJim> ##hamradio is a good channel if you want to learn more
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[22:06] <josvuk> ah, I have only a selfmade 2m rx and a selfmade 4el yagi the local hams I can here prety good :-)
[22:08] <josvuk> but want to update my rx with raspberry for controling the synthesizer.... freq memory smeter display ......
[22:08] <PhotoJim> sounds like a fun project.
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[22:10] <josvuk> hm, yes both fun and the opposite its a lot of things to dicover until it works .....
[22:10] <PhotoJim> that's true
[22:10] <PhotoJim> but it's all learning
[22:10] <josvuk> learned a lot during the construction ...
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[22:13] <josvuk> ah, you can also make worldwide qso on 2m with D-Star .....
[22:14] <josvuk> we have a D-Star relais here in ulm DB0Ulm
[22:14] <PhotoJim> or IRLP sort of
[22:14] <PhotoJim> we don't have D-Star here but we do have IRLP
[22:14] <PhotoJim> oh, you're in Ulm. Cool. I know sort of where that is.
[22:14] <PhotoJim> Baden-Wurtemmburg isn't it?
[22:15] <PhotoJim> I probably spelled that wrong.
[22:15] <PhotoJim> or is it Bavaria?
[22:15] <josvuk> Baden-Wuerttenberg yes no it isn't Bavaria
[22:16] <josvuk> but Bayern is not far the river danube in Ulm is the border.
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[22:17] <josvuk> log here for a pic http://www.darc.de/distrikte/p/14/
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[22:18] <josvuk> Neu-Ulm is in Bavaria but Ulm is Baden-Württemberg
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[22:20] <PhotoJim> josvuk: I've been not too far away from there. been to Konstanz and Friedrichshafen.
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[22:21] <josvuk> ah, then you know the hamradio in Friedrichshafen ...
[22:21] <PhotoJim> I didn't then but I do now.
[22:21] <PhotoJim> this was in 2007.
[22:22] <PhotoJim> we have friends in Amriswil.ch
[22:22] <PhotoJim> so we did day trips from there into the nearby areas
[22:22] <josvuk> http://www.hamradio-friedrichshafen.de/
[22:22] <josvuk> ah ....
[22:23] <josvuk> grüzi
[22:24] <PhotoJim> yes, I need to get back there
[22:25] <josvuk> hm, yes thats a lovley place the lake constance and the alpes ... looks very impresive :-)
[22:26] <josvuk> hm, I can see the alpes when it is good weather from here wehre I live they are about 100km far
[22:26] <PhotoJim> the Bodensee, yup :)
[22:26] <PhotoJim> we took the ferry from Friedrichshafen to ROmanshorn
[22:26] <PhotoJim> there is a really good fish and chips place in Romanshorn right on the water :)
[22:29] <josvuk> :-)
[22:31] <josvuk> here are some pics of my 2m rx which I want to extend with the raspberry .... http://forum.db3om.de/ftopic12265.html
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[22:33] <PhotoJim> interesting project alright
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[22:41] <josvuk> what about /dev/rtc if I manage to run the i2c-tools does then apears a rtc device?
[22:42] <josvuk> for now hwclock says something /dev/rtc failed ...
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[22:52] <Jaimbo> Hey guys, can someone help explain why my Pi doesn't have write permissions to my network drive?
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[22:53] <Jaimbo> I can create new files/folders etc on my PC and the Pi can see them, but I can't create files/folders on the Pi?
[22:55] <josvuk> hm, I can mkdir prog ls I see prog Im on my pi over ssh. works :-)
[23:02] <josvuk> hm, for 2.5W the cpu is very hot (with finger tempmeter ca. 50-60 C ) isn't it?
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[23:21] <josvuk> hm, is PPPoE allready installed on raspbian?
[23:22] <josvuk> hm, lsmod don't lists me something about PPPoE, does this mean it is not installed?
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[23:30] <josvuk> hm, is it possible to install packages with apt-get without internet conection?
[23:33] <Odie_> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16919114/run-sudo-apt-get-install-without-internet-connection
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