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IRC Log for 2014-01-05

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[0:07] <plugwash> The first partion on the SD card has to be fat32 so the boot rom in the SOC can read it
[0:12] <Tirili> What is an SOC?
[0:12] <Tirili> A part of the raspberry chip?
[0:13] <ShadowJK> *the* raspberry chip
[0:13] <Tirili> ok
[0:13] <ShadowJK> System On a Chip
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[0:25] * plugwash has always thought the term is a bit of a misnomer
[0:26] <plugwash> since the so-called "systems on chips" nearly always need external memory to work at all
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[0:31] <ShadowJK> It has tons of peripheral stuff on die
[0:31] <ShadowJK> like memory controller ;p
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[1:07] <demlak> hi
[1:07] <demlak> im trying to mesure temperature by using DS18B20 1-wire...
[1:08] <demlak> i tried this tutorial.. http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2013/03/raspberry-pi-1-wire-digital-thermometer-sensor/
[1:09] <demlak> modules are loaded.. but i can�t see the device under /sys/bus/w1/devices
[1:09] <demlak> i checked wiring twice.. can�t find mistake
[1:09] <demlak> any ideas how to find problem?
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[1:29] <demlak> ok.. how to check if my gpio pin is ok or broken?
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[1:36] <Leon> Hi all
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[5:57] <M4dH4TT3r> http://pastebin.com/WCvGGn5s
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[10:18] <kingi> how di extend the auth.log
[10:18] <kingi> it just shows the logs for this day
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[10:46] <gordonDrogon> kingi, try: ls -l /var/log/auth.log*
[10:46] <gordonDrogon> you'll find that they get rotated daily.
[10:47] <gordonDrogon> and this is a generic Debian syadmin type issue, so search the Debian sysadmin wiki, etc. where you'll find out how to control syslog, and the log-rotate mechanisms.
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[11:23] <M4dH4TT3r> hey have raspbien issue
[11:23] <M4dH4TT3r> can anyone help?
[11:24] <gordonDrogon> just ask - if someone knows they might reply...
[11:24] <M4dH4TT3r> I doubt they know
[11:24] <gordonDrogon> not point asking then.
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[11:24] <M4dH4TT3r> getting this on sdcard http://pastebin.com/WCvGGn5s
[11:24] <M4dH4TT3r> after having raspbien on it
[11:25] <gordonDrogon> do you have all the updates in-place?
[11:25] <gordonDrogon> ie. sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:25] <M4dH4TT3r> what?
[11:25] <M4dH4TT3r> tried all this http://pastebin.com/68Cn5pAH
[11:25] <gordonDrogon> you need to make sure its up to date.
[11:25] <M4dH4TT3r> did you look at the pastebin?
[11:26] <gordonDrogon> I looked at the first one.
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[11:26] <gordonDrogon> then I asked if you had up to date software.
[11:27] <M4dH4TT3r> trying to make sdcard useable again I no want raspbien and card not accessable/bootable obvious by pastebin
[11:27] <gordonDrogon> why not try a new SD dard?
[11:27] <M4dH4TT3r> want to fix this card
[11:28] <gordonDrogon> ok
[11:28] <M4dH4TT3r> so it is useable not for raspbien
[11:28] <gordonDrogon> if it were me... I'd check the power supply votlage, then re-image the card in another PC, then boot it, making sure there is no overclocking enabled.
[11:29] <M4dH4TT3r> other ppl with raspbian have this issue too
[11:29] <M4dH4TT3r> ohh yes so easy
[11:29] <M4dH4TT3r> see 2nd pastebin
[11:29] <M4dH4TT3r> if it were u...
[11:29] <M4dH4TT3r> not going to use sdcard in pi again...
[11:30] <gordonDrogon> not sure what you're trying to do in that 2nd pastebin - was the card in a Pi at the time?
[11:30] <M4dH4TT3r> no hell no just reg nix
[11:30] <gordonDrogon> badblocks is probably a better command for testing than ddrescue.
[11:31] <M4dH4TT3r> wasnt testing
[11:31] <gordonDrogon> also, if it's getting errors in another PC, then it probably really is broken.
[11:31] <M4dH4TT3r> ws trying to make useable
[11:31] <M4dH4TT3r> its a raspbian issue not sdcard
[11:32] <gordonDrogon> so you put the SD card into another PC, and you get read problems, therefore it's a raspbian issue?
[11:32] <M4dH4TT3r> well now sdcard because i had raspbian on it
[11:32] <M4dH4TT3r> yes because other ppl that do same thing returning raspbian card back to blank have same issue
[11:33] <gordonDrogon> but 95% of the > 2million people who're using Raspbian seem to be just fine...
[11:34] <gordonDrogon> just get a new SD card.
[11:34] <M4dH4TT3r> are you fuckin retarded or something? I used raspbien and it was fine but trying to stop using is the problem!
[11:35] <gordonDrogon> well, abuse wil lget you no-where. Good luck.
[11:35] <M4dH4TT3r> thanks
[11:35] <M4dH4TT3r> talking to you was getting me beyond no where...
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[12:58] <veras> hi I bought a usb ethernet adapter for my RPI but if I plug it in nothing happens... what can i do?
[12:59] <veras> means I dont find a new interface when i type "ifconfig" or "cat /etc/network/interfaces"
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[13:00] <veras> the only thing is that when I plug in it the network connection of the build in interface gets disconnected for a second
[13:14] <strixo> veras: wait a sec iam working on it :)
[13:15] <strixo> veras: check here if it is verified elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals
[13:17] <strixo> veras: also check the network type if youre using 802.11a 802.11g adapter wont work for instance
[13:18] <strixo> veras: if you post more details about your device i can help you further
[13:19] <strixo> veras: and ofc you need the correct firmware for your usb dongle
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[13:28] <veras> strixo: thank you for helping me, i checked that list before I bought it and it has at least a verified chip (Asix AX88772B) but is from a different vendor (not ASUS but i-tec)
[13:28] <veras> how can i find out that network type?
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[13:31] <strixo> veras: sorry i was away for a while wait a second
[13:32] <bauruine> hi i added ipv6 to /etc/modules (like mentioned in the faq) but still don't get a v6 address.
[13:32] <strixo> veras: you can view your network type in router settings
[13:33] <veras> strixo: ok so you mean in my router settings (not the pi) ?
[13:34] <bauruine> the module is loaded but it does not seem to get an address from ra. if i load the module manually it works.
[13:34] <strixo> veras: yes but i think the problem is in the firmware have you installed any firmware at all?
[13:34] <veras> no on the pi I just installed the latest raspbian
[13:35] <veras> ok maybe thats the problem
[13:35] <strixo> veras: ok just wait a second im looking for a correct firmware for your usb
[13:37] <bauruine> nvm my fault. had activated ipv6 forwarding (configuring a router) which disables stateless autoconfiguration.
[13:38] <strixo> veras: can you give me model name of your usb wifi adapter?
[13:39] <veras> yes wait a second
[13:41] <veras> "i-tec USB 2.0 Advance 10/100 Fast Ethernet LAN Network Adapter USB 2.0 to RJ45" and there is also this on the box: "K4034"
[13:42] <veras> here is the link where I bought it: http://www.amazon.de/Advance-Ethernet-Network-LED-Anzeige-Ultrabooks/dp/B00DRZX0SO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1388929562&sr=8-1&keywords=i-tec+USB+2.0+advance+10%2F100+ethernet+LAN+Network+adapter
[13:44] <veras> and it came with a CD but it's for Windows or Mac only
[13:45] <veras> when you say firmware do you mean something that has to be installed on the device itself or is it more like a driver which needs to be installed on raspbian? Maybe it helps when I install the driver on a Windows machine and connect it once
[13:46] <strixo> veras: no it has to be installed on raspbian it your adapter works with asix kernel driver
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[13:46] <veras> ah ok
[13:48] <strixo> veras: wati a moment im still working on it :)
[13:48] <veras> thank you so much :)
[13:49] <strixo> veras: http://www.asix.com.tw/download.php?sub=driverdetail&PItemID=105 here you go
[13:50] <strixo> veras: the linux kernel driver
[13:51] <veras> ok great thank you
[13:51] <veras> i'll try to install it
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[14:03] <veras> this should be compiled on the pi right? I think i have to read somewhere how to install kernel drivers on the pi
[14:03] <veras> because it wont compile yet...
[14:04] <strixo> veras: yes on the pi try reading the readme file might help you.. iam about to leave for lunch
[14:04] <veras> ok thank you again for your help!
[14:04] <veras> helped me a lot
[14:04] <veras> i was about to send it back to amazon :)
[14:04] <strixo> veras: youre welcome it was my pleasure:)
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[14:32] <veras> ok I didn't have the kernel sources. uname -r says "3.6-trunk-rpi" but I don't know where to find the correct kernel sources... maybe somewhere here: https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/tree/rpi-3.6.y/kernel
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[14:40] <Jones_> Hello everybody, what's up?
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[14:42] <Guest36704> I am new to the raspberry pi community, and I actually need a kernel 3.12 for my wifi dongle. Since the raspbian version available on the website is not using the latest kernel apparently, I wanted to compile my own kernel from the tutorial here: http://elinux.org/RPi_Kernel_Compilation
[14:42] <Guest36704> Here is the thing: I am cross-compiling the kernel from a MacOS computer, and I get the following error: net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_ECN.c:20:42: fatal error: linux/netfilter_ipv4/ipt_ECN.h: No such file or directory
[14:43] <shiftplusone> Guest36704, I am not sure how stable 3.12 is. You could certainly try is. Are you using the source from here? https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/tree/rpi-3.12.y
[14:43] <Guest36704> shiftplusone: I am, indeed
[14:43] <shiftplusone> *try it
[14:43] <shiftplusone> As I understand it, it's WIP, so I wouldn't count on it working.
[14:44] <Guest36704> WIP?
[14:44] <shiftplusone> work in progress
[14:45] <Guest36704> Actually, I have a TP-Link wn725n v2 as my wifi dongle, and I could not compile the driver for raspbian. I have seen that it was included in the kernel 3.12, and here I am ;-)
[14:45] <shiftplusone> What's the chipset?
[14:46] <Guest36704> it's a realtek 8188eu
[14:46] <Guest36704> Realtek does not give the linux driver for 8188eu
[14:46] <Guest36704> Some people propose to compile it from sources, but I had no success following their tutorials
[14:47] <shiftplusone> Where's the source for it?
[14:47] <Guest36704> Actually I was following this: http://tech.enekochan.com/2013/05/29/tp-link-tl-wn725n-version-2-in-raspberry-pi/
[14:48] <Guest36704> But once again, I was not using the same kernel as they do, and it was not working
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[14:48] <shiftplusone> If you can give me a link to the actual source, I can try compiling it for you
[14:49] <shiftplusone> Ok, I see it
[14:50] <Guest36704> But I've got a CD that has the Windows drivers... might this help?
[14:50] <shiftplusone> not at all
[14:50] <Guest36704> okay =). I remember having used ndiswrapper a few years ago for a wifi card, so I was wondering =)
[14:51] <shiftplusone> doesn't work on arm
[14:51] <Guest36704> good to know =)
[14:52] <Guest36704> So I am in quite a bad situation ;-)
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[14:53] <shiftplusone> I am going to see if I can compile it. Check back in an hour or so
[14:54] <Guest36704> You mean, the kernel? Or the driver?
[14:54] <shiftplusone> driver 'course
[14:55] <Guest36704> =). But then you will need the sources
[14:55] <shiftplusone> which I found
[14:56] <Guest36704> ... given by realtek? Could you give me the link?
[14:56] <Guest36704> I can try compiling them against by myself, I don't want to take your time for this if I have tried everything I could!
[14:56] <shiftplusone> not rt, https://github.com/lwfinger/rtl8188eu
[14:56] <Guest36704> Ho yeah, I tried it already =)
[14:58] <shiftplusone> I have my own ways
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[15:02] <Guest36704> shiftplusone: I don't doubt it ;-)
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[15:52] <shiftplusone> Guest36704, figured it out yet?
[15:57] <Guest36704> no =(
[15:57] <Guest36704> still trying
[15:57] <shiftplusone> good. would you like the .ko and .bin files?
[15:57] <Guest36704> definitely, yeah
[15:57] <Guest36704> and maybe a quick description of what you did, so I'll try later
[15:58] <shiftplusone> ironing out a few issues, but it's all good. Yeah, I'll tell you what I did as well
[15:58] <Guest36704> thanks a lot, I spent quite a lot of time on all of this already =/
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[16:05] <shiftplusone> Guest36704, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/175702/rtl8188eu.tar.gz
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[16:05] <shiftplusone> that's for the foundation kernel (3.10.25+)
[16:06] <Guest36704> okay
[16:06] <Guest36704> I will try this and tell you if I get something
[16:06] <Guest36704> thanks a lot!
[16:06] <shiftplusone> good luck
[16:06] <Guest36704> thanks ;-)
[16:06] <shiftplusone> should be able to just extract to / as root
[16:07] <shiftplusone> If it works, i'll tell you what I did
[16:07] <shiftplusone> don't forget to insmod the .ko
[16:08] <shiftplusone> wait, I may have goofed
[16:09] <shiftplusone> I'll re-compile just in case
[16:10] <shiftplusone> uploaded new version, re-download.
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[16:23] <Guest36704> okay
[16:23] <shiftplusone> any lcuk?
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[16:31] <Guest36704> not yet
[16:31] <Guest36704> my network is having problems... =)
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[16:43] <Jones__> okay shiftplusone > I am back with an internet connection =)
[16:47] <Jones__> shiftplusone: I have a kernel 3.6.11... I will need to try to get another image
[16:47] <shiftplusone> wait
[16:47] <shiftplusone> Just run apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[16:47] <shiftplusone> dist-upgrade, even
[16:49] <Jones__> okay =)
[16:50] <Jones__> wow, I did think it was already up-to-date =)
[16:50] <Jones__> It will take some time. I'll try in a few hours or tomorrow, and I will come back to tell you.
[16:51] <Jones__> hopefully in two hours or so, but I don't know if I will make it.
[16:51] <shiftplusone> Are you using the image from raspberrypi.org?
[16:52] <Jones__> I have tried multiple images actually, and maybe I just used the wrong one, so I will have to check this
[16:52] <shiftplusone> k
[16:53] <Jones__> I got lost in all this kernel compilation thing =/
[16:53] <shiftplusone> do you know the filename of the .img file you used?
[16:53] <shiftplusone> or was it a netinstall?
[16:53] <Jones__> It was a .img
[16:54] <Jones__> 2013-12-20-wheezy-raspbian, supposedly. But I think I copied the wrong one this morning for some reasons
[16:55] <Jones__> 2013-12-20-wheezy-raspbian is the same as yours, right?
[16:55] <shiftplusone> that one would've had 3.10
[16:55] <Jones__> okay so I got lost in my tests :P
[16:55] <shiftplusone> anyway, you can just update raspberrypi-bootloader instead of the whole thing to test it quicker
[16:56] <Jones__> okay
[16:56] <Jones__> I will need to go now, but I'll try later. Will I catch you on this channel in a few hours or tomorrow?
[16:56] <shiftplusone> yeah, most likely
[16:57] <Jones__> great
[16:57] <Jones__> Thanks for your help, once more, and see you then!
[16:57] <shiftplusone> np
[16:57] <Jones__> I'll be curious to see how you compiled it!
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[19:29] <theaftermath> oops
[19:29] <ppq> identity crisis? :)
[19:30] <shiftplusone> heh
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[20:18] -mist- [Global Notice] Sorry about the network split noise, folk. Unfortunately, yet another bunch of idiots has decided to DOS us. Yes, very funny guys. I guess your mummy and daddy bought you a botnet for christmas. Anyway, hopefully they'll get bored soon, until then, sorry again for the network noise, and thanks to all our sponsors who generously provide the bandwidth that this idiots fill with garbage.
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[22:33] <raidensnake> hey does anyone know why the mate desktop apt is broken?
[22:33] <raidensnake> it's got broken sependencies
[22:35] <plugwash> Can you be more specific as to what errors exactly you are getting?
[22:35] <plugwash> and what version of raspbian you are using?
[22:35] <raidensnake> jessie
[22:37] <raidensnake> atm i don't have any desktop installed
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[22:37] <raidensnake> i added the repo to sources.list and did apt-get update
[22:39] <raidensnake> when i try to run apt-get mate-core mate-desktop-enviroment it errors saying there are broken dependencies.
[22:41] <plugwash> The mate repo is really intended for wheezy.........
[22:41] <raidensnake> yeah but there is a jessie version on the site
[22:42] <plugwash> sorry what repo exactly did you add?
[22:42] <raidensnake> deb http://archive.raspbian.org/mate jessie main
[22:43] <raidensnake> that's on the site here http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianMate
[22:44] <plugwash> ok, mike must have added that without telling me
[22:44] <raidensnake> it's missing a lot of dependencies.
[22:45] <raidensnake> but the repo works.
[22:46] <plugwash> can you post the complete output of "apt-get mate-core mate-desktop-enviroment" in a pastebin somewhere so I can take a look
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[22:55] <raidensnake> http://pastebin.com/k0xqHQfg
[22:57] <raidensnake> that's the output i got. since i'm running the pi directly i outputted the result in a file and transfered it.
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[23:02] <plugwash> looks like the problem is a new version of dconf has recently landed in jessie
[23:02] <plugwash> with a new soname
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[23:03] <raidensnake> ahh. any suggestions?
[23:03] <plugwash> As a short term fix adding "deb http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian wheezy main" to your sources.list will probablly solve things
[23:03] <raidensnake> ok
[23:04] <raidensnake> also one thing i did notice is gnome 3 is broken and can't start.
[23:08] <raidensnake> nope mate is still broken even on the wheezy version
[23:08] <raidensnake> i checked for dconf but it's not installed
[23:11] <raidensnake> it still errors the sam
[23:13] <raidensnake> looks like the repo might be broken.
[23:13] <plugwash> Thanks for the report, it may take some time for me to get to the bottom of this
[23:14] <raidensnake> no problem. like i said it's not dconf as i don't have it installed.
[23:14] <plugwash> dconf is at least one of the problems
[23:15] <plugwash> specifically jessie has a newer soname and doesn't have the older one that the mate packages are depending on
[23:15] <plugwash> there may be other problems too
[23:15] <raidensnake> well i do know gnome installs but fails to start.
[23:16] <plugwash> ah I thought you were still talking about mate, no idea about gnome but I was under the impression it was basically unusable without working 3D acceleration in X
[23:16] <plugwash> (gnome3 that is)
[23:16] <raidensnake> i tried gnome seperatly
[23:17] <raidensnake> is what i meant to say
[23:17] <raidensnake> that's why i'd thought i'd try mate instead since gnome itself is broken.
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[23:37] <plugwash> hifi, shiftplusone have either of you tried version 3.10.11-1+rpi3 of linux-image-3.10-3-rpi yet?
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[23:38] <shiftplusone> plugwash, ah damn, you should've asked a few minutes ago. I could've. In the middle of a NOOBS install now, but once that's done, I'll give it a go.
[23:39] <raidensnake> inheard there's a 3.12 version of the kernel
[23:39] <raidensnake> i heard*
[23:40] <plugwash> raidensnake, there is a 3.12 kernel in raspbian jessie
[23:40] <raidensnake> any idea how to get it?
[23:40] <plugwash> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=65209
[23:41] * shiftplusone figures it's not exactly recommended yet
[23:41] <plugwash> it boots - ship it ;)
[23:41] <plugwash> (one step up from it compiles - ship it)
[23:42] <shiftplusone> heh
[23:43] <raidensnake> any pland on using glshim as an opengl replacement?
[23:43] <raidensnake> like libgl/libglu
[23:43] <shiftplusone> pretty safe to say 'no', I think.
[23:44] <raidensnake> well i know it works as it main interprets gl to gles
[23:44] <raidensnake> and is rpi coded
[23:45] <plugwash> If someone can come to me with sane packages (which means among other things that anything that depends on pi specific libraries must be a new source package building new binary packages not a modification to an existing source/binary package) then I may consider them
[23:45] <plugwash> but I have no time to do such packaging myself
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[23:56] <raidensnake> one thing i would love to do is emulate a steam based game server.
[23:57] <gnarface> one thing i would love to do is emulate dosbox
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[23:58] <shiftplusone> 'emulate' dosbox? dosbox runs natively =P
[23:58] <gnarface> it runs terribly on arm though
[23:58] <gnarface> i guess what i mean is someone should rewrite dosbox optimized for arm so it would run acceptably
[23:58] <shiftplusone> word on the street is that rpix86 runs great though
[23:58] <gnarface> really?
[23:59] <gnarface> haven't heard of it
[23:59] <raidensnake> roix86?
[23:59] <shiftplusone> There's also FastDosBox, which... judging by the name, is fast.
[23:59] <shiftplusone> where did the o come from?

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