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IRC Log for 2014-01-24

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[5:18] <Gilligan94> gordonDrogon: doing that is giving me this http://puu.sh/6w3VQ/5452f28532.png
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[6:25] <mikal> Hi. I just downloaded the foundation 2014-01-7 image and it doesn't boot. It looks to me like p1 isn't being mounted as / correctly during the boot process. Has anyone seen this before?
[6:26] <shiftplusone> would need the actual error
[6:26] <mikal> So, there isn't an error message. I boot and then get dumped to a root prompt with a very minimal environment.
[6:26] <mikal> df -h shows /boot being mounted, but not a /
[6:27] <mikal> But root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 appears in /boot/cmdline.txt
[6:28] <shiftplusone> sounds like the emergency kernel is booting
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[6:28] <mikal> What would cause the emergency kernel to boot?
[6:28] <shiftplusone> I don't know, but try adding avoid_safe_mod=1 to config.txt
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[6:30] <shiftplusone> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=50416
[6:30] <mikal> Huh, that fixed it
[6:33] <mikal> Thanks!
[6:33] <shiftplusone> np
[6:34] <hifi> plugwash: can I feature request?
[6:34] <plugwash> You can request, I can't guarantee i'll grant it though...............
[6:35] <plugwash> shiftplusone, mikal I suspect the internal pull up/downs in the SoC are very weak and that occasionally contamination on the board is enough to push it into safe mode
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[6:36] <plugwash> but i'm not positive on that
[6:37] <hifi> plugwash: add ntp support to busybox build
[6:37] <plugwash> hmm
[6:37] <hifi> that's something people have requested for the installer but as I don't rebuild any packages the current busybox-static only has rdate support
[6:37] <hifi> which is way outdated and unreliable
[6:37] <hifi> the reason why I set date on install is to have proper filesystem dates during install
[6:38] <hifi> afaik you only need to set some build options to busybox and it'll be fine for the installer
[6:40] <plugwash> Yeah, i'm just kinda reluctant to go changing random packages like this
[6:40] <hifi> I understand that
[6:40] <plugwash> I wonder how debian would respond to such a feature request
[6:40] <hifi> though I can't find the ntp command from busybox help
[6:41] <hifi> http://www.busybox.net/tinyutils.html it's there, hmm
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[6:41] <hifi> "BusyBox starting from 1.16.x also acquired ntpd applet."
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[6:42] <Gilligan94> Hi I'm getting the following error http://puu.sh/6vvsT/8cfec07631.png I'm running the net edition of raspbian
[6:42] <hifi> what is the net edition?
[6:43] <hifi> and what does "uname -r" say about your running kernel version?
[6:43] <hifi> and if you do use the raspbian kernel, did you actually install the package which installs all required modules?
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[6:58] <Gilligan94> hifi: one sec
[7:00] <Gilligan94> uname -r returns http://puu.sh/6w8ek/e4fc96e48e.png
[7:00] <hifi> ok, you used raspbian-ua-netinst, right?
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[7:01] <Gilligan94> hifi: yup
[7:01] <hifi> did you follow the first boot instructions?
[7:01] <Gilligan94> hifi: yes
[7:01] <hifi> so you did install the kernel package, right?
[7:02] <Gilligan94> what do you mean by kernel package?
[7:02] <hifi> apt-get update && apt-get install linux-image-rpi-rpfv raspberrypi-bootloader-nokernel
[7:02] <hifi> did you run that
[7:02] <Gilligan94> I think so but i'll run it again to be sure
[7:02] <hifi> dpkg -l |fgrep linux-image
[7:02] <hifi> it should list linux-image-something
[7:03] <hifi> if you did install the kernel package
[7:03] <Gilligan94> http://puu.sh/6w8lC/48df7b6e4d.png
[7:03] <hifi> does /lib/modules have modules for the running kernel, 3.10-3.rpi?
[7:04] <hifi> 3.10-3-rpi*
[7:04] <Gilligan94> it looks like it http://puu.sh/6w8oW/53974b72ac.png
[7:04] <Gilligan94> http://puu.sh/6w8pV/6a68d43908.png
[7:04] <hifi> then the kernel either does not have i2c compiled in or modules or you need to explicitly load them
[7:05] <hifi> try: find /lib/modules |fgrep i2c
[7:05] <hifi> (I know you can grep with find directly but I don't ever remember the syntax)
[7:05] <Gilligan94> http://puu.sh/6w8sF/71a686b6c2.png
[7:06] <hifi> that's all you get?
[7:06] <hifi> you did reboot after installing the kernel, right?
[7:06] <Gilligan94> yea so it looks like theres some missing
[7:06] <Gilligan94> yea I've rebooted several times since
[7:06] <hifi> plugwash: can you help out?
[7:06] <hifi> I don't really know what provides /dev/i2c*
[7:06] <plugwash> Neither do I
[7:07] <hifi> is i2xcdevice interface enabled in raspbian kernel either compiled in or as module?
[7:07] <hifi> i2c device*
[7:08] <plugwash> Not sure
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[7:08] <hifi> would be odd to have something like that completely missing
[7:08] <plugwash> There should be a copy of the kernel config in /boot
[7:09] <plugwash> if you want to look at what is and isn't enabled
[7:09] <hifi> I'm at work so I don't have access to much
[7:09] <hifi> but Gilligan94 can probably grep for I2C in the config
[7:09] <Gilligan94> sure, anyone know the syntax for grep?
[7:10] <hifi> fgrep -i i2c /boot/whatever-the-config-file-is
[7:10] <hifi> IIRC
[7:10] <hifi> though if it's compressed you need somzething like zcat /boot/whatever-the-compressed-config-file-is.gz | fgrep -i i2c
[7:10] <hifi> depending on the compression
[7:11] <hifi> and I know there's zgrep!
[7:11] <Gilligan94> http://puu.sh/6w8FG/81a40c24a5.png
[7:11] <hifi> plugwash: check that out
[7:12] <hifi> Gilligan94: for now, if the foundation kernel does have i2c, you can uninstall the raspbian kernel and install the foundation kernel package
[7:12] <Gilligan94> alright, how would I do that?
[7:13] <hifi> now I must say I don't remember the name of the foundation kernel package
[7:13] <plugwash> If/when you figure out what options you want enabling pop me an email and i'll do it
[7:13] <plugwash> the foundation kernel is included in their raspberrypi-bootloader package
[7:14] <hifi> I don't know anything about this stuff, I can't really say anything
[7:14] <Gilligan94> can't say I've really messed with the kernel stuff much
[7:15] <Gilligan94> cd
[7:15] <hifi> well, try uninstalling the raspbian kernel package, install foundation bootloader package as plugwash said, make sure you do have /boot/kernel.img before you reboot
[7:15] <Gilligan94> alright
[7:16] <hifi> if it breaks, you can always copy a new kernel.img from the raspbian-ua-netinst zip back in
[7:16] <Gilligan94> true true
[7:16] <hifi> but this does seem like a missing configuration for i2c if there is any use for it
[7:17] <Gilligan94> I need i2c to use an LCD shield I have, trying to set it up to display bitcoin mining stuff
[7:19] <hifi> prolly CONFIG_I2C=m is enough but if you can check the I2C config of the foundation kernel after it properly works and pass it to plugwash it would be nice
[7:19] <hifi> the foundation kernel has a proc interface for the kernel config, IIRC something like /proc/config
[7:20] <Gilligan94> sure I'll have a look
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[7:22] <Gilligan94> hifi: looks like it worked going down for reboot now
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[7:24] <Gilligan94> hifi: success http://puu.sh/6w9ax/4670145292.png
[7:24] <hifi> yaay
[7:24] <hifi> can you grep for i2c in the kernel config?
[7:24] <Gilligan94> sure
[7:24] <hifi> so plugwash can enable it
[7:25] <hifi> it's prolly /proc/kconfig
[7:25] <hifi> or something
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[7:25] <Gilligan94> hifi: looks like it's somewhere else http://puu.sh/6w9dr/5c8c6ad833.png
[7:27] <hifi> Gilligan94: it should be /proc/config.gz
[7:27] <hifi> according to gogole
[7:27] <hifi> google
[7:27] <hifi> zfgrep -i i2c /proc/config.gz
[7:27] <Gilligan94> welp thats a few lines, I think Ill past bin this one
[7:28] <hifi> sure
[7:28] <Gilligan94> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6807132/
[7:29] <hifi> plugwash: ^
[7:30] <hifi> anyway, glad you got it working
[7:30] <Gilligan94> hifi: indeed, thanks
[7:33] <Gilligan94> hifi: So could I frankenstien some of this into the raspbian-ua-netinst kernel config and have I2C work on that?
[7:34] <hifi> you could rebuild the kernel package with custom config but afaik it takes forever
[7:34] <hifi> thus, better to prod plugwash to make the changes and rebuild the official packages with the build farm
[7:35] <hifi> I don't see any reason not to have i2c support working
[7:35] <Gilligan94> hifi: sweet, I'll subscribe to the github and wait with baited breath
[7:35] <hifi> I don't need to update the installer :)
[7:35] <hifi> it's the package that gets updated
[7:36] <hifi> i2c is of no use during install anyway
[7:36] <plugwash> Actually packages I manually modify don't get built on the autobuilders as a general rule
[7:36] <Gilligan94> got a link to the github for that?
[7:36] <plugwash> they get built on the box I do the changes on
[7:37] <plugwash> of course the box I do most of my raspbian package modification on has a quad core coretex A9
[7:38] <plugwash> and 2GB of ram
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[8:45] <kingi> how the hell do u go to a network drive in linux, likei n windows i would use \\netwdrivename\folder
[8:45] <kingi> using linux mint
[8:48] <kingi> it was just smb://name
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[9:23] <gnarface> kingi: linux mint probably had something(s) pre-installed that allowed that. if i ever used "a [windows proprietary] network drive" i'd probably be able to guess the name of it/them by default. if you're not seeing them where you expected them, they simply may not be installed yet.
[9:24] <gnarface> kingi: you could of course just install the smbclient command-line tool and use that, but i'm guessing its not really the user experience you want. what you were using might have been maybe nautilus, or something specific to your window manager (kde or gnome perhaps?)
[9:25] <gnarface> kingi: if you have the program installed but its not obeying "smb://" the way you expect, then you might be smiply missing one or more of libsmbclient, samba-common, samba-libs, samba-common-bin, or something similarly named
[9:28] <kingi> didnt understand
[9:28] <kingi> smb:// worked
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[12:56] <Atlantic777> Hi! I've got problems with building a module. I keep getting Invalid module format error when I try insmod, and this is error in dmesg ": no symbol version for module_layout". I'm building on the rpi, and I'm using correct kernel source and header versions.
[12:57] <Atlantic777> Any ideas?
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[13:01] <hifi> short help: use the raspbian kernel package and header package and try again
[13:04] <hid3> I have an issue with the mpd player. Each time I force it to start playing the music, is starts to blast really loud. I need to do volume down by one percent, it silences much, and then I can increase it back with no negative effects. This repeats each time after i stop mpd playing. Any clues what's the issue?
[13:05] <hid3> e.g. the workaround would be: `mpc play && mpc volume 77 && sleep 1 && mpc volume 78`
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[16:20] <Gilligan94> plugwash, have you updated that kernel?
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[20:02] <raidensnake> do any of you guys know if the overclocking feature works in the 3.12 kernel?
[20:04] <shiftplusone> any reason to think it wouldn't?
[20:05] <raidensnake> it's just it's not mentioned if it does or not
[20:07] <raidensnake> since I'm running a clean version using hifi's install I just wanted to know what the default settings are for turbo mode so i can write them in the config file.
[20:11] <shiftplusone> there are no 'default settings', but the ones from raspi-config can be pulled from the horse's mouth on github.
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[20:25] <shnatsel> Hello! I'm trying to add support for Raspberry Pi in a custom build system. Specifically, I need to be able to detect Pi's CPU architecture. I'm mostly targeting Raspbian.
[20:25] <shnatsel> could anyone post the ouput of the following command on the Pi?
[20:25] <shnatsel> uname -m | sed "s/i./x/g"
[20:26] <ppq> armv6l
[20:26] <shnatsel> Thanks!
[20:26] <shiftplusone> confirmed
[20:26] <shnatsel> and for completeness, could anyone post contents of /etc/lsb-release ?
[20:27] <shiftplusone> I don't have lsb-release installed on my system
[20:27] <ppq> me neither
[20:28] <shiftplusone> Hmm, the package lsb-release is installed, but the file is not present
[20:29] <shnatsel> that's interesting
[20:29] <shnatsel> output of "dpkg -L lsb-release" then?
[20:31] <shiftplusone> http://paste.debian.net/78207/
[20:31] <hifi> are both of you running an installation from raspbian-ua-netinst?
[20:32] <ppq> how about lsb_release -a, shnatsel
[20:32] <shiftplusone> hifi, you know I am
[20:32] <hifi> just checking if the file should exist -_-
[20:32] <shnatsel> ppq: that'd be interesting to look at as well
[20:33] <shiftplusone> http://paste.debian.net/78208/
[20:33] <shnatsel> thanks!
[20:33] <shnatsel> I just expected the same thing to be present in file form, and I'm curious why it actually isn't
[20:33] <hifi> no codename?
[20:34] <ppq> http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=lsb-release&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any
[20:34] <ppq> it appears to be only "debian-edu-config"
[20:34] <Jusii> shnatsel: there's lsb_release command though
[20:35] <ppq> maybe that file is deprecated, that's just a wild guess though
[20:35] <shnatsel> Jusii: with the underscore?
[20:35] <Jusii> yes
[20:35] <shnatsel> o_O
[20:35] <shnatsel> output please!
[20:35] <shnatsel> ah wait
[20:35] <Jusii> can't run it on rpi now, someone else might help
[20:35] <shnatsel> sorry XD
[20:35] <ppq> shiftplusone already did
[20:35] <shnatsel> I see it in the file listing now
[20:36] <shnatsel> for a moment I thought the command should be "lsb-release" and the underscore one is different
[20:36] <shnatsel> sorry XD
[20:36] <shnatsel> Thanks guys!
[20:36] <shnatsel> I'll go propose a pull request for cjdns now :)
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[20:41] <bwarp> Anyone else having trouble downloading packages from lug.mtu.edu?
[20:44] <bwarp> my apt-gets keep coming back as 404
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[20:52] <hid3> Anyone had experience with vsftpd in Raspbian? It seems to write wrong PID into the pidfile and fails to stop the daemon from init.d script...
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[21:10] <dexta> evening
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[21:59] <Dovregubben> Wow... A lot of people in here
[22:01] <shiftplusone> alright, he found us. The jig is up.
[22:01] * Dovregubben blinks
[22:03] <shnatsel> ooh this is going to be fun
[22:03] <Dovregubben> fun?
[22:03] <shnatsel> to behold :)
[22:03] <Dovregubben> what is?
[22:07] <Dovregubben> I'm just curious.... I'm running a pi headlessly, so X isn't running, obviously
[22:07] <Dovregubben> there shouldn't be any problem with disabling the swap file, should there?
[22:09] <shiftplusone> none at all
[22:11] <Dovregubben> I'm kind of surprised to find it has swap enabled by default
[22:12] <shiftplusone> It's not really 'enabled'
[22:12] <Dovregubben> most OSes I've encountered that are designed to run from flash make as much effort as possible to avoid writing
[22:12] <Dovregubben> oh?
[22:12] <shiftplusone> swapiness is set up so that swap only kicks in when you're about to run out of RAM (which makes perfect sense)
[22:12] <Dovregubben> ah, gotcha
[22:12] <shiftplusone> So it's only there to prevent complete lockup
[22:17] <Dovregubben> I'm assuming there's a way to change the video memory allocation in the BIOS?
[22:17] <Dovregubben> I don't have an HDMI cable, so I've never actually seen the thing post...
[22:18] <Dovregubben> just plugged it into the network and SSHed in
[22:18] <shiftplusone> It's not an x86 system, there's not BIOS or POST in the traditional sense. http://elinux.org/RPiconfig
[22:18] <Dovregubben> oh?
[22:18] <shiftplusone> (and yes, you can change the memory split)
[22:18] <shiftplusone> minimum is 16MB for the GPU
[22:19] <Dovregubben> Oh cool! Thanks :-D
[22:19] <shiftplusone> np
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