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IRC Log for 2014-03-11

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[3:11] <Kymru> ok so RTL8188CUS works straight of the box for Raspbian, does RTL8188eu now work straight out the box as well?
[3:18] <sney> not without a 3.12 kernel
[3:18] <sney> which might be present in jessie by now, I haven't kept up
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[6:20] <jammy_> what are the plugins need to install for gstreamer
[6:20] <jammy_> need or not?
[6:24] <gnarface> jammy_: did you succeed at adding libomxil to your app?
[6:24] <gnarface> jammy_: i saw that you said there was no docs in libomxil-bellagio-doc but i think you probably did not look in /usr/share/doc/libomxil-bellagio-doc after you installed it
[6:27] <jammy_> i installed that tool
[6:27] <jammy_> but video is not playing from uri
[6:27] <gnarface> jammy_: you have to modify your program to use it
[6:27] <gnarface> jammy_: its not a tool, it is a library
[6:27] <jammy_> k
[6:28] <jammy_> i willsend my code link
[6:28] <gnarface> jammy_: i cannot help fix your code, i only know theory
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[6:29] <gnarface> jammy_: maybe for an example you should try looking at this: apt-get source omxplayer
[6:40] <jammy_> http://docs.gstreamer.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=327735
[6:40] <gnarface> jammy_: maybe for an example you should try looking at this: apt-get source omxplayer
[6:40] <jammy_> given one example for playing video through pipeline
[6:42] <gnarface> jammy_: you have to understand that is a generic example. the raspberry pi needs special code. i've tried to tell you this several times but you don't seem to understand, and you simply ignore the fact you don't understand, or you don't believe me,and pretend not to believe me. i understand you have a limited grasp of english but this behavior seems very insulting, which is why other people are not responding to you.
[6:45] <jammy_> it depends on architecture
[6:55] <gnarface> Shaka, when the walls fell
[6:59] <jammy_> based on arc we want t write the codes
[7:00] <gnarface> jammy_: its not just arm. its specific to the pi. you need special support for the video card
[7:00] <gnarface> jammy_: you need to support the video card AND arm
[7:01] <jammy_> but omx player is given for playing videos
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[7:01] <gnarface> jammy_: you should use omxplayer as your examle
[7:01] <gnarface> jammy_: *example
[7:01] <jammy_> but there is so many codecs are there in that
[7:02] <gnarface> jammy_: you only need an example for libomxil
[7:02] <jammy_> i no need codecs
[7:02] <jammy_> yes
[7:02] <gnarface> jammy_: you need an example for libomxil
[7:02] <jammy_> yes
[7:02] <gnarface> jammy_: you can use omxplayer as an example for libomxil and ignore extra codecs
[7:03] <jammy_> i want to study one file in that player
[7:05] <gnarface> jammy_: this gives you the code files for that player: apt-get source omxplayer
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[7:11] <jammy_> everything depends on arc and hardware accerelations
[7:12] <gnarface> yes
[7:12] <gnarface> :)
[7:12] <gnarface> ☺
[7:13] <gnarface> Sokath, his eyes opened
[7:16] <jammy_> i devloped one android media player code
[7:17] <jammy_> but due to hard ware acceleration problems it not owrk
[7:17] <jammy_> drivers not supported
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[7:36] <jammy_> hi gnarface
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[7:44] <jammy_> i need some help from you
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[8:01] <gnarface> Temba, his arms wide
[8:01] <gnarface> damn, he's gone
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[8:27] <zGrr> moin :)
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[9:05] <jammy_> hi
[9:05] <zGrr> hello
[9:06] <jammy_> i install vlc player
[9:06] <jammy_> i need that source code
[9:09] <jammy_> i chekedin /usr/lib
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[9:22] <Kymru> does the rtl8188cus and rtl8188eu use the same drivers?
[9:23] <shiftplusone> I don't think so
[9:23] <shiftplusone> but maybe. I seem to recall compiling the eu version for someone
[9:24] <shiftplusone> just checked, it's different
[9:24] <shiftplusone> the firmware and module name both have eu at the end
[9:28] <Kymru> ok cheers
[9:30] <jammy_> but the files inside the code are not opening
[9:32] <Kymru> does rtl8188cus currently come in the raspbian image?
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[10:28] <edy81> hello, I was wondering can i install netsurf like they say in this web http://soosck.wordpress.com/2010/11/16/netsurf-graphical-web-browser-command-line-css/
[10:29] <edy81> without removing the preinstall x11 netsuft browser?
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[10:31] <jammy_> hi
[10:31] <edy81> hi
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[11:06] <d1360> has anyone installed a huawei E3331 (a 3.5G modem)?
[11:06] <zGrr> d1360: I did.
[11:08] <d1360> how? i cannot get it... I'm not able to see it even on /dev
[11:10] <zGrr> Don't know. For me, it was just plug-and-work.
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[11:11] <d1360> I tied on a debian... it was automounted, and it had a .sh and an installation script that i had to run as superuser and then it worked but then I swiched to the raspberry and tryed the same and got nothing
[11:11] <d1360> i apologize for my typos...
[11:12] <zGrr> d1360: there could be some issues with the non-HiLink models sold on the Russian market - I saw one such modem branded by Билайн.
[11:13] <d1360> no chance... this is sold by movistar in Spain
[11:13] <d1360> and it's got hilink too
[11:14] <zGrr> d1360: look what dmesg says, after plugging in the modem.
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[11:15] <zGrr> d1360: might need some modesetting, but in my case, it just recognized eth1 without problem.
[11:16] <d1360> I have installed previously the sakis3g scripts for another modem, and I had to blacklist some modules for issues that appeared.
[11:16] <zGrr> d1360: actually, i don't remember. I might have defined eth1 in configuration files manually.
[11:16] <zGrr> d1360: you don't normally dial with this modem. system sees it as another ethernet adapter.
[11:17] <zGrr> d1360: you need to get IP address from the modem's dhcp server.
[11:18] <zGrr> d1360: then you can visit http://192.168.1.1/html/index.html
[11:20] <d1360> i can recall doing something like that in my desktop and it worked... but i cannot see this working in the raspy
[11:23] <zGrr> Check your configuration in /etc for eth1 entries.
[11:24] <zGrr> d1360: iface eth1 inet dhcp
[11:25] <zGrr> d1360: what does your ifconfig say?
[11:26] <zGrr> d1360: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=18996
[11:27] <d1360> dmesg says [..] usb-storage 1-1.3.2:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected scsi3 : usb-storage 1-1.3.2:1.0 scsi 3:0:0:0: CD-ROM HUAWEI Mass Storage 2.31 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
[11:27] <d1360> and i have nothing more
[11:29] <d1360> well I have something in lsusb --> Bus 001 Device 009: ID 12d1:157d Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
[11:29] <d1360> but it wont be mounted
[11:30] <d1360> reading the link, thx
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[11:37] <zGrr> d1360: looks easy to solve: /usr/bin/sg_raw /dev/sr0 11 06 20 00 00 00 00 00 01 00
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[11:57] <d1360> zGrr: I've done that and it worked...I see eth1 with ifconfig. My question is why my debian desktop was able to mount the usb so I could access to the installation scripts and raspian wasn't able. And do i need to execute that command everytime i start the raspy or plug the modem?
[11:59] <zGrr> d1360: no idea. does your debian has a Network Manager?
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[12:01] <lunaphyte_> hi. when i ssh in, a line is printed: "Linux raspberrypi 3.10.25+ #622 PREEMPT Fri Jan 3 18:41:00 GMT 2014 armv6l" - where does that come from?
[12:01] <d1360> using a vanilla 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.54-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:01] <lunaphyte_> it doesn't appear to be /etc/motd
[12:01] <d1360> zGrr: so yes it has
[12:02] <zGrr> d1360: probably the network manager is doing this trick on it's own.
[12:05] <d1360> zGrr: then I assume raspbian doesn't use it, does it?
[12:06] <d1360> anyways, how can i guess my external IP now?
[12:07] <d1360> ifconfig just will tell the local LAN modem-raspy IP
[12:07] <d1360> and I don't want to ask whatsmyip.com
[12:07] <d1360> I need to ask to the modem
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[13:01] <d1360> is it posible use the Huawei E3331 3G modem with the sakis3g script?
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[13:03] <zGrr> d1360: it is
[13:03] <zGrr> d1360: you have to disable hilink and then you can use it as a modem.
[13:03] <zGrr> d1360: why would you want to do that?
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[13:04] <d1360> cause whe hae another huawei modem from another mobile company already usung that and we want to check if the network is up or dow and reconect again
[13:05] <d1360> weh hae---->we have
[13:06] <d1360> i hate this keyboard today :-P
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[13:09] <zGrrr> d1360: http://192.168.1.1/html/switchProjectMode.html
[13:09] <zGrrr> d1360: I was silly enough to actually test it :)
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[13:51] <d1360> zGrr: Movistar's huawei E3331 has got different html pages... there is no switchProjectMode
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[13:53] <zGrr> d1360: in that case, you have to google for the modeswitch
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[16:57] <lunaphyte_> hi. when i ssh in, a line is printed: "Linux raspberrypi 3.10.25+ #622 PREEMPT Fri Jan 3 18:41:00 GMT 2014 armv6l" - where does that come from?
[16:57] <lunaphyte_> it doesn't appear to be /etc/motd
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[17:00] <shiftplusone> just in case, check /etc/issue
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[17:28] <gordonDrogon> It comes from /run/motd.dynamic
[17:29] <gordonDrogon> this is created at boot time by /etc/init.d/motd
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[17:29] <gordonDrogon> its yet another package designed to do nothing more than slow the boot process.
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[17:30] <shiftplusone> handy
[17:30] <gordonDrogon> uname -a is handy.
[17:31] <gordonDrogon> what's annoying is that you can't remove it via apt - as it's now a standard part of the base system.
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[19:36] <zfisher> has anybody had success running batman-adv on the Pis with rtl8188cus chipset?
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[19:39] <zfisher> i've followed the steps detailed on their wiki on my 2 nodes and i cannot find any nodes nearby when i look for them. i think the issue may be that my wifi cards are being put into different cells when i try to put them into ad-hoc mode.
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[19:49] <lunaphyte_> gordonDrogon: thanks, that was it.
[19:50] <lunaphyte_> at least i can turn it off with update-rc.d
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[20:22] <user_458845643> ello, i need help for build the sd: nothing works here :( with unmounted device , without a partition table (sudo dd if/dev/zero of=/dev/<MY_SD> ), writing the img with dd if=imagename.img of=/dev/mysdname bs=1M
[20:23] <user_458845643> i cannot have a working sd
[20:23] <user_458845643> as well with the raspberry official one, help... :(
[20:26] <user_458845643> eg now:
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[20:27] <user_458845643> sudo dd bs=1MB if=2014-01-07-wheezy-raspbian.img of=/dev/mmcblk0
[20:27] <user_458845643> 2962+1 record in
[20:27] <user_458845643> 2962+1 record out
[20:27] <user_458845643> 2962227200 byte (3,0 GB) copied, 508,963 s, 5,8 MB/s
[20:27] <user_458845643> on official rasp sd, but no luck :(
[20:29] <Jusii> what does leds say on your pi
[20:29] <user_458845643> hello
[20:29] <Jusii> when you plug power, does the green led blink half a second next to red power led
[20:29] <user_458845643> red one ok, green some lamps repeated
[20:29] <user_458845643> one moment try a boot
[20:30] <Jusii> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xjZfTiSaDFA/UMxEjqM36YI/AAAAAAAAAdo/wAMVc4-_RiU/s1600/raspberry%20pi%20led%20status.png
[20:30] <Jusii> ACT is the green I'm interested in
[20:30] <Jusii> just after powering, does it blink half a second
[20:31] <Jusii> (actually less than that but...)
[20:31] <user_458845643> yes, the green appears about every 2 sec for half second
[20:32] <Jusii> http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Green_LED_blinks_in_a_specific_pattern
[20:32] <user_458845643> thx one moment
[20:33] <Jusii> normally it should blink once, some pause, then 'randomly' as it's the 'HDD LED' of the pi
[20:34] <Jusii> have you tried with different sdcards? All cards aren't compatible with the pi
[20:35] <user_458845643> yes here i have a blink after about half second, then another one after 3 seconds and so on
[20:35] <Jusii> how do you know it's not booting?
[20:36] <Jusii> blinks sound like normal booting pi
[20:36] <user_458845643> with another sd (2gb with elec.. starts)
[20:36] <user_458845643> i cannot connect with ssh
[20:36] <Jusii> then there's plenty of problem scenarios
[20:37] <user_458845643> i know , help ..
[20:37] <Jusii> if the green led blinks randomly, you've got a working sdcard
[20:37] <Jusii> no display connected?
[20:38] <user_458845643> the right way for build the sd from unix terminal is : sudo dd if=image.img of=/dev/mysddev ??
[20:38] <Jusii> yes
[20:38] <Jusii> you don't have display connected?
[20:39] <user_458845643> now not, i can connect
[20:39] <user_458845643> one
[20:39] <user_458845643> one mom
[20:39] <Jusii> that should help you plenty
[20:39] <Jusii> so that you know you have a working and booting pi :)
[20:39] <Jusii> even a keyboard would be helpful!
[20:39] <user_458845643> (i used the pi for 2 months without screen .. for that :P )
[20:40] <Jusii> :)
[20:40] <Jusii> I'm just guessing your problem might be somewhere else than on the pi
[20:40] <user_458845643> ok raspbian booted :P
[20:40] <Jusii> there you go :)
[20:41] <user_458845643> but i have a neverendind boot (rainbow any 4 seconds)
[20:41] <user_458845643> i try to change the power supply
[20:42] <user_458845643> DAMNED SH** power supply
[20:42] <user_458845643> changed and i have the boot
[20:43] <user_458845643> thanks :(
[20:43] <user_458845643> sorry
[20:44] <user_458845643> that new power supplyer worked with an old sd so i haven't thinked about it
[20:45] <user_458845643> thanks,
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[20:47] <Jusii> great
[20:47] <Jusii> problem solved is what matters
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[21:08] <user_458845643> Jusii, sorry, are you here? i loosed my old sd for a bad power-off , a backup with dd should be a good way for save an image?
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[21:08] <user_458845643> or is there any better way? thanks
[21:09] <Jusii> if you did your backup before disaster, then yes
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[21:11] <user_458845643> something as 'dd bs=1MB if=/dev/mmcblk0 of=/backup.img' should works?
[21:11] <user_458845643> or there is something better?
[21:12] <Jusii> that's a good start and will work
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[21:13] <Jusii> next you want to save disk space, but before that, that's a fool proof solution
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[21:18] <user_458845643> my rasp have a simple application, no write on sd
[21:18] <user_458845643> thanks
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[21:19] <Jusii> then explore the option to make it read-only
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[21:20] <Jusii> a lot closer to 0 corruption problems
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[21:21] <viccuad> hi, is /dev/rando secure using raspbian? is it using the bcm2708-rng driver by default, and is it open source? thanks in advance
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[21:22] <viccuad> */dev/random i meant
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[21:22] <Jusii> any answers you get will be altered ;)
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[21:26] <user_458845643> Jusii, yes i read about it .. some suggestions for a working way?
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[21:26] <user_458845643> enough an url
[21:26] <user_458845643> thanks
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[21:51] <viccuad_> hi, is /dev/random secure using raspbian? is it using the bcm2708-rng driver by default, and is it open source? thanks in advance
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[21:56] <vagrantc> man 4 random
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[22:04] <viccuad_> vagrantc: I have read the man page, but that does not answer my question. Is Raspbian using bcm2708-rng by default?
[22:06] <vagrantc> well, it will tell you it /dev/random meets your definition of secure, since secure is a pretty vague term
[22:06] <vagrantc> tell you if it...
[22:08] <viccuad_> but just quoting the man does not mean it is secure. If Raspbian is using bcm2708-rng by default, instead of using keyboard interrupts etc as usual for /dev/random, and broadcom has their RNG bugged, then..
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[22:09] <viccuad_> Im aware that /dev/random uses hash functions though
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[22:15] <gordonDrogon> There was some talk of Linux and /dev/random in the press recently. the up-shot was that it doesn't rely solley on one particular source.
[22:15] <gordonDrogon> so I imagine that's the same no-matter what platform/cpu/etc.
[22:16] <gordonDrogon> and the source code is all there.
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[22:17] <viccuad_> true. For /dev/random, the kernel fills the pool, and then applies some one-way hash functions. So you could fill the pool with a flawed RNG.
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[22:18] <viccuad_> then, using the bcm2708-rng reading from the raspi temperature only fills the pool quicker
[22:18] <gordonDrogon> go fix the source them - if that's the case
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[22:20] <vagrantc> CONFIG_CRYPTO_RNG=m
[22:20] <vagrantc> CONFIG_CRYPTO_RNG2=y
[22:20] <vagrantc> CONFIG_CRYPTO_ANSI_CPRNG=m
[22:20] <vagrantc> those are the optons in the 3.2 and 3.10 kernels in raspbian. the rpi foundation kernel may be configured differently
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[22:23] <gordonDrogon> zcat /proc/config.gz | grep RNG
[22:23] <gordonDrogon> to find out.
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[22:25] <viccuad_> mmm
[22:27] <vagrantc> you can always build your own kernel...
[22:28] <viccuad_> it seems that the bcm2708-rng module is now included in the kernel
[22:29] <viccuad_> and one can use it with the kconfig CONFIG_HW_RANDOM_BCM2708=m on kernel/.config
[22:29] <viccuad_> dunno if it is being used on raspbian, gonna look at the code
[22:33] <vagrantc> config-3.2.0-4-rpi:# CONFIG_HW_RANDOM is not set
[22:33] <vagrantc> same with 3.10
[22:34] <gordonDrogon> CONFIG_HW_RANDOM=y
[22:34] <gordonDrogon> on my Pi's. standard raspbian kernel.
[22:34] <viccuad_> :P
[22:34] <gordonDrogon> Linux fuzepi 3.10.25+ #622 PREEMPT Fri Jan 3 18:41:00 GMT 2014 armv6l GNU/Linux
[22:36] <viccuad_> mmm, where are the sources for building the raspbian kernel?
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[22:46] <vagrantc> gordonDrogon: where do you get your standard raspbian kernel from? the kernel packages in the raspbian repository don't enable hw_random by defalt, as far as i can see.
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[23:31] <viccuad_> where is the raspbian kernel config sources?
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[23:32] <viccuad_> btw, XBian uses the RNG: https://github.com/xbianonpi/xbian/issues/413
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[23:49] <viccuad_> so it seams that Raspbian uses the Raspberry Pi Foundation kernel
[23:49] <viccuad_> seems*
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