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[0:13] <evil_dan2wik> hi there, welcome to #raspbian.
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[1:02] <OERIAS> Should I compile LibreOffice from source?
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[1:05] * plugwash would generally say no
[1:06] <plugwash> and certainly building it on a Pi would be extreme masochism
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[1:08] <rosapoP> libreoffice on a pi that would take about a month or two to start
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[2:30] <OERIAS> What can I used an Office suite?
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[10:07] <OERIAS> Salam teran
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[10:37] -mquin- [Global Notice] Coming up this Saturday the 9th in Philadelphia PA, the 5th annual FOSSCON. Check out the speaker schedule at http://fosscon.us/Speakers, and register to attend at http://fosscon.us/Attend.
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[13:40] <micha_> hi, I have some strange problems with php-fm after the update from nginx: Upgrade: nginx-full:armhf (1.6.0-1, 1.6.0-2), nginx-common:armhf (1.6.0-1, 1.6.0-2), nginx:armhf (1.6.0-1, 1.6.0-2)
[13:40] <micha_> I tt-rss and baikal don't work proper since the update
[13:41] <jesse55> /etc/init.d/php5-fpm restart ??
[13:41] <micha_> Can this problem nginx related? Yes, I also try a reboot
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[14:58] <yann2> hey! I've got to recompile a tiny kernel module for my raspberry (a one line change in the cdc_acm driver probably) - I'm not too familiar with cross compilation, could someone maybe give me a direction to follow?
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[15:56] <jakllsch> yann2: good luck with that
[15:56] <jakllsch> the offical kernel builds aren't reproducable
[15:56] <jakllsch> and you can't build modules against them either
[15:57] <yann2> its ok, just gave up - tried on my linux/amd64 first and it seems the hardware is too different and my oneliner won't do, so back to the supplier this time :'(
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[16:38] <diederik> jakllsch: 'the offical kernel builds aren't reproducable' you are kidding, right?
[16:40] <vagrantc> where the hashes on everything matches exactly?
[16:40] <vagrantc> orjust they fail to build?
[16:40] <jakllsch> diederik: no i'm not kidding
[16:40] <vagrantc> and official from who?
[16:41] <jakllsch> raspberrypi.org
[16:41] <diederik> holy crap!
[16:41] <vagrantc> it wouldn't suprise me
[16:41] <diederik> So they've distributed a kernel which they wouldn't be able to build again?
[16:41] <jakllsch> which we can't build again
[16:42] <jakllsch> they've got some sauce they're not publishing
[16:42] <diederik> omg
[16:42] * diederik is really shocked by this
[16:42] <jakllsch> and admitedly it's not very important stuff, unless you're trying to build modules for their kernel
[16:43] <diederik> which quite a lot of ppl need to do, especially with wifi dongles
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[16:43] <jakllsch> i don't think the .config for the raspberrypi.org kernel is available
[16:44] <vagrantc> this isn't just a matter of missing headers... ?
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[16:44] <diederik> the rpf should imo produce a 'linux-headers-<version>' package, but they don't
[16:44] <jakllsch> i probably don't know enough to be asserting things :-)
[16:44] <vagrantc> last time i used one of their kernels, /proc/config.gz contained the config
[16:44] <jakllsch> then you have to find the source tree it goes with
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[20:16] <rim-k> does awesome WM work fine with raspbian?
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[20:20] <vagrantc> don't see why it wouldn't...
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[21:46] <rim-k> well I just install awesome on a fresh raspbian install
[21:47] <rim-k> but I can't figure out how to make it work
[21:47] <rim-k> the system doesn't seem to have X
[21:47] <rim-k> am I missing something?
[21:49] <shiftplusone> how did you install and what did you try that makes you say it does not have X?
[21:50] <rim-k> I installed the system using the netinstall image
[21:50] <rim-k> then I installed awesome
[21:50] <rim-k> that's all I did so far
[21:51] <vagrantc> probably need to install xorg
[21:51] <vagrantc> and/or lightdm, gdm, slim, etc.
[21:53] <rim-k> Package gdm is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[21:53] <rim-k> However the following packages replace it: indicator-applet-session gnome-control-center-data
[21:53] <rim-k> E: Package 'gdm' has no installation candidate
[21:54] <rim-k> hmu.... gdm3
[21:54] <shiftplusone> aye, the netinstall does not install xorg or anything
[21:54] <shiftplusone> lightdm is the one most people use on the pi
[21:55] <rim-k> what's the package name
[21:55] <rim-k> I can't seem to find
[21:55] <vagrantc> apt-cache search lightdm
[21:55] <rim-k> I know
[21:55] <shiftplusone> installing lxde should get you a decent enough suite, though I prefer to stick with openbox and tint2, then adding what I need, rather than letting lxde install things I don't want/need.
[21:55] <rim-k> nothing returned
[21:56] <shiftplusone> O_o
[21:56] <shiftplusone> did you apt-get update?
[21:56] <rim-k> yeah
[21:56] <shiftplusone> I don't see why you'd need to, but that smells wrong somehow.
[21:56] <rim-k> that was actually he first thing that I did after the fresh install
[21:57] <vagrantc> definitely available in my installs
[21:57] <rim-k> root@pi:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:57] <rim-k> deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian wheezy main firmware
[21:57] <rim-k> deb http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian wheezy main
[21:57] <rim-k> are the repo correct?
[21:57] <vagrantc> when you run apt-get update, does it give you an error message?
[21:57] <rim-k> nope
[21:58] <vagrantc> you must have a crowbar wedged in your rpi somewhere...
[21:58] <rim-k> in other words?
[21:59] <vagrantc> somethings really broken
[21:59] <shiftplusone> does apt-cache search show up other packages which you know for a fact exist?
[21:59] <vagrantc> good call
[21:59] <shiftplusone> (lightdm and lxde do exist, but I'm curious)
[21:59] <vagrantc> say, for example, bash
[22:00] <rim-k> yeah, I can find lxde
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[22:00] <rim-k> and other packages related to it
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[22:00] <vagrantc> but not lightdm?
[22:00] <shiftplusone> lightdm should be a dependency for lxde, no? =/
[22:00] <rim-k> not lightgdm
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[22:01] <shiftplusone> ....lightdm, not lightgdm
[22:01] <shiftplusone> nog
[22:01] <shiftplusone> *no g
[22:01] <rim-k> hum
[22:01] <rim-k> #facepalm
[22:01] <shiftplusone> >_<
[22:01] <rim-k> slap me guys
[22:01] <rim-k> free slaps
[22:01] * shiftplusone slaps rim-k
[22:01] <rim-k> -_-
[22:01] <rim-k> shiftplusone: thx
[22:01] <shiftplusone> any time
[22:01] <rim-k> :D
[22:01] * rim-k gets more coffee
[22:02] <vagrantc> so something was really broken... ! :)
[22:02] <rim-k> yeah, PEBCAK
[22:02] <rim-k> pebkac I mean
[22:02] <vagrantc> happens to the best of us
[22:03] <rim-k> even to me, can you imagine that? :)
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[22:15] * diederik notes that apt-get update is not needed right after installing with the net installer
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[22:38] <NicoHood> diederik: rly?
[22:38] <NicoHood> and upgrade?
[22:38] <shiftplusone> the point of netinstall is that everything is up to date
[22:39] <diederik> NicoHood: yes, it does an 'apt-get update' at the end of the installation
[22:39] <shiftplusone> that's why I said it shouldn't be necessary, but something was clearly wrong, so it was worth covering all bases.
[22:39] <NicoHood> does this install openelec 4.0.7?
[22:39] <shiftplusone> openelec is a whole other distro, nothing to do with raspbian
[22:39] <diederik> and as shiftplusone said, during install it installs the latest version available
[22:39] <NicoHood> cause you said "everything is up to date"
[22:40] <shiftplusone> 'everything' includes things that are installed. It does not include openelec, buildroot, dolphins, geese or anything else that would make no sense.
[22:40] <diederik> it only installs a VERY small set of packages + the ones you specify
[22:40] <NicoHood> too bad that you cannot reinstall the distributions
[22:41] <diederik> why would you want that?
[22:41] <NicoHood> i sometimes break my installation of a distri. and then i need to reinstall or install my backup. my very old backup because i didnt expect to break things
[22:44] <diederik> makes me wonder what you do to 'break' an installation
[22:45] <NicoHood> thats not too hard. installed a broken addon for xbmc for example or so many random things happend for me. well i just miss a few functions of berryboot
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[22:59] <NicoHood> does anyone know how to measure the sd card speed when plugged into the pi? usb speed may differ from what the pi can read/write
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[23:29] <rim-k> anyone in the U.K here?
[23:29] <rim-k> I need someone that can traceroute my server
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[23:29] <rim-k> and see if it can be reached
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[23:37] <q-bert> why uk
[23:39] <binaryhermit> I'm connected to a server in Detroit, is that close enough?
[23:40] <binaryhermit> at least I think it's in Detroit
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