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IRC Log for 2014-12-13

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[0:07] <CyL> What's the correct way to repartition the sdcard raspbian is residing into?
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[11:06] <kobidrifter> Hi, has anyone tried to install Naemon on the Pi?
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[11:56] <heller__> anyone used rrdtool?
[11:56] <kobidrifter> heller: Yep, great tool. Mainly with Cacti though
[11:57] <heller__> is it possible to use it with sensor that need to draw graph every 5s?
[11:57] <kobidrifter> Do you mean draw graph or store data every 5 seconds? Idea is to only create image on demand
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[11:58] <heller__> store to database every 5s
[11:58] <heller__> i need to make graph of an open door :P
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[11:58] <heller__> basically to see temperature changes if the door is open for only few seconds
[11:59] <kobidrifter> Curious why do you need to graph an open door?
[11:59] <heller__> fridge :)
[11:59] <heller__> i could make a database with option --step 5 i guess
[12:00] <kobidrifter> That's not really graphable data. Wouldn't some kind of alerting tool be better (e.g. Naemon)? CRITICAL=Open, OK=Closed
[12:00] <heller__> havent heard of naemon
[12:00] <heller__> but on the same graph will be fridge temp
[12:00] <heller__> so it can be comparable
[12:02] <kobidrifter> Check into naemon, it could do both along with included performance data (temp). It wouldn't poll the temp that quickly but you could use proximity sensor and an SNMP trap to send the alert as needed.
[12:02] <heller__> alert is not needed
[12:02] <heller__> maybe i want to add a beeper of some sort that makes noise if temp drops too long
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[12:02] <kobidrifter> alert would just be the response to Naemon to store it. What it does with is is up to.
[12:03] <heller__> but hardest part is to code all of it
[12:03] <kobidrifter> I've sucessfully compiled naemon on the Pi, it's just the thruk GUI that's giving me issues.
[12:03] <heller__> i have the stuff for it. but no experience about python
[12:03] <kobidrifter> Interesting project though
[12:04] <heller__> just for testing
[12:04] <heller__> to see how it really works inside it
[12:05] <heller__> and i got 2 ldr:s to read a led, what tells me if its on or not not
[12:05] <heller__> -not
[12:05] <heller__> compressor ei mean
[12:05] <kobidrifter> You planning to put the pi in the fridge ;-)
[12:05] <heller__> nah :p
[12:06] <kobidrifter> How about a magnetic contact switch instead? Adafruit do one.
[12:06] <heller__> No, you lost my point :)
[12:07] <heller__> LDR is to read if the compressor is on. and temp sensor is to read temp. but it has to read every 5s to get correct reading
[12:07] <heller__> i dont actually need to know if the door is open or not
[12:07] <heller__> but i want the temp sensor to log it
[12:07] <kobidrifter> got ya, sorrry
[12:08] <heller__> so what is naemon then?
[12:09] <heller__> ah found the guide
[12:09] <kobidrifter> monitoring platform - have a look at http://www.namon.org
[12:09] <kobidrifter> www.naemon.org
[12:09] <heller__> on it
[12:10] <kobidrifter> It's far more generic than the initial description says though. Anything with a status and a number can be stored.
[12:10] <heller__> im more curious about the way its configured
[12:10] <kobidrifter> probably overkill for what you want but you never know
[12:11] <heller__> but basically its browser configured?
[12:11] <kobidrifter> Not out of the box, all CLI but there are addons
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[12:12] <heller__> CLI? :b
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[12:13] <kobidrifter> you have a windows box as well as the pi?
[12:13] * kobidrifter ducks
[12:13] <heller__> sure
[12:14] <kobidrifter> maybe have a look at PRTG as well. That's all web based
[12:14] <kobidrifter> In your scripts you could get it to read the temp and the use oneof the net-snmp tools to send the output to it as an SNMP trap
[12:15] <heller__> dont even know what is a SNMP trap
[12:16] <kobidrifter> few new toys for you to play with then ;-)
[12:17] <heller__> maybe :p
[12:18] <kobidrifter> Its a subject close to my heart so drop me a PM if you want to discuss further so we don't flood the channel
[12:19] <heller__> SNMP?
[12:19] <kobidrifter> yeah
[12:23] <heller__> well i know nothing about it :P
[12:23] <heller__> moving on ->
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[13:31] <TheSnide> heller__: what about rrd ?
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[15:47] <heller__> TheSnide: is it okay with 5s interval on database update
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[16:28] <heller__> does it matter for me to install python or python 3?
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[16:34] <ppq> yes
[16:35] <ppq> (use 3)
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[16:40] <- *mpmc* I'm not here at the moment, your message has been logged and I'll get back to you when I can / %
[16:42] <heller__> do i then have to sudo python3?
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[16:46] <TheSnide> heller__: we use it with 1s resolution, so yes.
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[16:53] <lapide_viridi> MySQL on my Raspberry Pi won't start. Reports that partition is full, which is untrue. It has at least 10 GB to go. Any idea of what to do?
[16:53] <Odie_> df -i
[16:57] <lapide_viridi> Odie_, http://pastebin.com/qGeHuDF4
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[16:58] <Odie_> just run it as df -i to see all partitions
[16:58] <Odie_> but if none of them is close to 100%, its fine
[16:59] <Odie_> (and most likely is) try googling up on the error, and see mysql help, not raspbery
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[17:07] <lapide_viridi> Oh, that is a channel to? THanks
[17:14] <TheSnide> heller__: less than 1s resolution is not possible, as the epoch is currently a long.
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[18:02] <lapide_viridi> Does someone have an alternative to mysql? Cn't get it to work.
[18:02] <lapide_viridi> Must be raspbian
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[18:11] <McPeppr> depending on what you like to do. I prefere sqlite3 for python projects with sensor data logging
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[18:16] <TheSnide> never underestimate sqlite. i found that i mostly never use a manual datastructure when persisting on disk.
[18:17] <TheSnide> ... even in mem only it can fit, as it makes the code much more expressive.
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[18:21] <McPeppr> zetcode.com/db/sqlitepythontutorial
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[18:46] <heller__> TheSnide: okies thnaks
[18:46] <heller__> TheSnide: well 5s is ok for me
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[18:47] <heller__> TheSnide: im thinking of writing a python script to read sensors every 5s (or maybe eveery second). script that reads sensors and then outputs outputs to rrd database
[18:48] <heller__> i just need to learn python first :D
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[20:24] <Halbard> Hi, what could be causing this problem? scons can't recognize g++. http://pastebin.com/zmf6gwpj
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[20:54] <tpw_rules> i'm starting a couple network services like samba too, is that part of the issue?
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[20:56] <tpw_rules> there is an LSB job raise network interfaces like: [ *** ] A start job is running for LSB: Raise network interfaces.
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