#raspbian IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-01-13

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[0:31] <pi1> ls
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[0:40] <klem> There is a list command in IRC, its used to retrieve a list of channels. Though it works best in the server window
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[5:36] <Lokathor> anyone around that knows about locale stuff?
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[8:10] <- *mpmctoo* I'm not here at the moment, your message has been logged and I'll get back to you when I can / %
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[8:55] <Halbard> Hi, I can't shutdown my rpi via menu. When I click the desired radio button and then "OK" nothing happens.
[8:59] <lordievader> Halbard: Does "sudo poweroff" still work?
[9:00] <Halbard> I think it is, I actually use "shutdown -hP now" command
[9:02] <Halbard> I have a fresh install and I am using different user instead of default "pi"
[9:05] <lordievader> It might be that your user needs to be in some group to be able to shutdown through the gui.
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[9:12] <Halbard> That might be it, also, shutdown requires sudo privileges but through GUI it doesn't ask for sudo password. I haven't changed the default option for security reasons.
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[9:19] <lordievader> Halbard: Could you pastebin the output of "groups pi"?
[9:23] <Halbard> http://pastebin.com/ycWaqAfU
[9:25] <lordievader> And of what groups is your newly created user a member of?
[9:26] <Halbard> sudo video users netdev
[9:27] <lordievader> Hmm would it be the adm group?
[9:28] <Halbard> I really don't know :-)
[9:29] <lordievader> Neither do I, I vaguely remember that there was something with some group + gui shutdown/reboot.
[9:33] <Halbard> It would probably work if sudo doesn't ask for password, but I need that option.
[9:38] <Halbard> I have never thought that I will get to the point where powering off a computer is easier through terminal instead of GUI XD
[9:39] <lordievader> A lot of things are easier through a terminal than they are through the gui ;)
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[10:05] <dexta> morning
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[10:13] <lordievader> o/
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[10:17] <dexta> ;]
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[12:33] <morlenxus> Hey
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[12:36] <morlenxus> I have two installations of raspbian. While one was installed a few days ago and uses the raspberrypi-bootloader-nokernel package with libraspberrypi-bin, i cannot install the same packages on the other raspberry, it always depends on raspberrypi-bootloader.
[12:36] <morlenxus> Why are the dependencies different and how to solve this?
[12:38] <shiftplusone> I guess you used raspbian-ua-netinst for one install and not the other?
[12:41] <morlenxus> yes
[12:41] <morlenxus> And i used the rpi-update script before and wanted to move to the rasbian packaged stuff.
[12:42] <morlenxus> Which works when forcing the install, but still the package management still want to purge raspberrypi-bootloader-nokernel and install raspberrypi-bootloader .
[12:44] <shiftplusone> Not a fan of how raspbian-ua-netinst handles it, but how do you want to manage the firmware? You've got 3 options.
[12:44] <shiftplusone> Use rpi-update, use the 'stable' package provided by the foundation or use the package provided by raspbian.
[12:46] <morlenxus> I have installed raspberrypi-bootloader-nokernel and linux-image-3.16.0-4-rpi which works perfect.
[12:46] <morlenxus> It's just the dependency stuff which want's to replace raspberrypi-bootloader-nokernel by raspberrypi-bootloader.
[12:47] <shiftplusone> okay, so you'll need to pin those packages to the raspbian.org repo
[12:47] <shiftplusone> https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/blob/master/scripts/etc/init.d/rcS#L558
[12:54] <morlenxus> Thanks, i check that.
[12:55] <morlenxus> But still, why is the default installed packages having not the dependency to raspberrypi-bootloader?
[12:56] <morlenxus> ah
[12:56] <morlenxus> The answer is in the code.
[12:56] <morlenxus> :)
[12:56] <morlenxus> That looks a bit dirty to me...
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[13:23] <ShorTie> you can remove 01vcgencmd.pref and then install raspberrypi-bootloader?
[13:23] <ShorTie> [07:55:59] <morlenxus> ah
[13:23] <ShorTie> blaaa, sorry
[13:23] <ShorTie> you can remove 01vcgencmd.pref and then install raspberrypi-bootloader and stuff
[13:24] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, he wants to use the raspbian packages rather than the foundation ones.
[13:25] <shiftplusone> so that won't work
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[13:30] <ShorTie> oh, ok, sorry
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[13:38] <ShorTie> is not rpi-update like the testing version of the foundation firmware ??
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[13:40] <shiftplusone> yup, and he wants to move away from that
[13:42] <ShorTie> ok, thankz, just wondering, still a little confused on all of it
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[13:53] <morlenxus> ShorTie: I don't want to install raspberrypi-bootloader, i want to install raspberrypi-bootloader-nokernel
[13:54] <ShorTie> ok, sorry
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[13:55] <ShorTie> just for personal info, may i ask why raspberrypi-bootloader-nokernel instead of raspberrypi-bootloader ??
[13:56] <morlenxus> ShorTie: Because i want to use linux-image-3.16.0-4-rpi and don't need the other kernel.
[13:56] <ShorTie> i've tried to figure out the difference, but can't seem to find a good google
[14:02] <shiftplusone> ShorTie the raspbian one is properly packaged with headers and everything
[14:03] <shiftplusone> using the debian kernel package as a base and then adding a million patches on top
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[14:15] <morlenxus> shiftplusone: Should i use the raspberrypi-bootloader and this kernel?
[14:15] <shiftplusone> morlenxus, probably not.
[14:16] <morlenxus> shiftplusone: So using raspberrypi-bootloader-nokernel and linux-image-3.16.0-4-rpi is a good solution?
[14:16] <shiftplusone> depends on what it's a solution to
[14:18] <morlenxus> So which solution topics are available? :)
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[14:20] <shiftplusone> I don't know, why are you not using the standard kernel? Do you need the headers package to compile modules?
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[14:20] <morlenxus> You mean, the raspberrypi-bootloader ?
[14:22] <shiftplusone> from the raspberrypi.org repo, yes.
[14:24] <morlenxus> Well i installed debian netinst on a new raspberry pi and it did the nokernel installation, so i expected that to be the best way and wanted to migrate to the same with an existing installation.
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[14:27] <shiftplusone> then I think it really doesn't matter what you use if you have no reason to choose one over the other
[14:27] <ShorTie> see, i liked the best way to migrate to the foundation stuff because it has all the special sauce in it for the pi
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[14:29] <shiftplusone> the raspbian packages have the same sauce
[14:29] <morlenxus> Hm ok, then i switch to the raspberrypi-bootloader
[14:30] <morlenxus> shiftplusone: So which one do you use?
[14:30] <bionik> Hi, does anyone know if there is a web browser for raspi which can do gpu accelerated css animations? I would like to do a webpage based kiosk/infomonitor
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[14:31] <shiftplusone> morlenxus, my preference is biased.
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[14:31] <shiftplusone> but raspberrypi-bootloader
[14:31] <morlenxus> Ok :)
[14:31] <morlenxus> Thanks
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[14:34] <morlenxus> shiftplusone: Last one, can you help me with the correct sources.list content? I currently have this: http://nopaste.info/496ff42a18.html
[14:34] <morlenxus> Debian Version is Debian Testing
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[14:34] <shiftplusone> looks fine
[14:35] <morlenxus> Now i just need to remove the 01vcgencmd.pref and install raspberrypi-bootloader package?
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[14:36] <shiftplusone> sounds like a plan
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[14:37] <morlenxus> I'm a little bit confused by having "firmware" in the first line of the rasbian sources.list, may i remove that, so that only raspberrypi.org firmware is available?
[14:37] <shiftplusone> yes
[14:38] <shiftplusone> Also, you keep calling raspbian debian... it isn't
[14:38] <morlenxus> What is the main difference?
[14:38] <shiftplusone> if you conflate them then we won't know if you're actually talking about raspbian, debian armel or debian armhf.
[14:39] <shiftplusone> raspbian is debian armhf recompiled for armv6 (whereas debian armhf is compiled for armv7)
[14:39] <morlenxus> Probably this descripes my own confusness. :)
[14:39] <morlenxus> ah ok
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[14:39] <morlenxus> I always wonder, why the packages in raspbian aren't optimized for raspberry pi.
[14:40] <morlenxus> For example the ioquake or xbmc packages.
[14:40] <shiftplusone> yup, that would be it.
[14:43] <morlenxus> But why aren't these packages optimized? Why is raspbian only the recompilation for armv6 ?
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[14:45] <shiftplusone> because maintaining raspbian is more than enough work for one volunteer.
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[14:49] <morlenxus> Sure, but as long as the packages aren't optimized for raspberry, why provide packages?
[14:50] <morlenxus> I would simply skip building xbmc and ioquake as users still need to recompile there own version.
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[14:54] <shiftplusone> it's more than those 2 packages
[14:54] <shiftplusone> and making a list of the packages that do not work on the pi is unnecessary work, especially if some of those packages may get upstream support for the pi.
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[14:58] <morlenxus> Hm ok.
[14:59] <morlenxus> Maybe people providing extra packages for raspberry, like the xbmc should step into raspbian instead of providing there own package sources.
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[15:03] <shiftplusone> Maybe, but that's between those people and plugwash.
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[16:04] <morlenxus> shiftplusone: Now i'm back at kernel 3.12 instead of 3.16, but i guess that's ok. ;)
[16:04] <morlenxus> Thanks for your help.
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[16:04] <shiftplusone> np
[16:05] <morlenxus> Btw. what's with the xorg open source driver, is it arriving in raspbian?
[16:05] <shiftplusone> hm?
[16:05] <shiftplusone> what xorg driver? =S
[16:06] <morlenxus> The open source driver?
[16:06] <shiftplusone> link?
[16:06] <shiftplusone> I suspect you're not talking about xorg, but about anholt's work
[16:06] <shiftplusone> or maybe the $10k challenge from a while back
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[16:09] <morlenxus> Isn't anholt working on an xorg driver?
[16:10] <shiftplusone> he is doing some dri and opengl stuff
[16:11] <shiftplusone> it will not accelerate Xorg itself (which is inherently slow), but when you run 3d applications, it should work the same as on a desktop
[16:11] <morlenxus> http://anholt.livejournal.com/45382.html
[16:12] <morlenxus> I thought that he is also working on acceleracted xorg.
[16:13] <shiftplusone> xorg isn't acceleratable, especially the way that gtk and qt use it. You have a lot of operations operating on a small blocks of pixels. The GPU is good at processing big chunks of data. Combining the small chunks into big chunks eats up CPU.
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[16:15] <shiftplusone> As far as anholt's work is going thought, it's certainly impressive, especially that he's upstreaming things as he goes.
[16:16] <shiftplusone> I think the plan is to get an image with all of his stuff set up and pass it around for testing purposes and then maybe pushing it out as standard.
[16:16] <shiftplusone> That'll take a while though as there's a lot of other stuff going on right now with astro-pi and everything
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[16:58] <morlenxus> shiftplusone: Thanks for clearing up.
[16:59] <shiftplusone> np
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[18:19] <ShorTie> oh, so it's raspberrypi-bootloader that provides the foundation kernel ??
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[18:31] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, yes
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[18:33] <CalmPitBull> hi guys
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[18:33] <CalmPitBull> is it possible to use DTS on raspberr b+
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[18:36] <CalmPitBull> jer tu mog frenda zanima dal 100% moze, ima foruma gdje pise da se moze a ima i onih koji pisu da nema
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[19:11] <DK-HaZe> I have trouble finding out how to open Port for an IP in Raspbian anyone can help ?
[19:14] <lordievader> DK-HaZe: Do you mean port-forward?
[19:16] <shiftplusone> DK-HaZe, the question doesn't make sense.
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[19:18] <DK-HaZe> for some reason even if I have opened the port for at certain IP on the router it is still blocked..
[19:19] <lordievader> DK-HaZe: Check locally if something is listening, then check from another node in the local network if the port is open. Then check the internet if the port is open.
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[19:20] <shiftplusone> the pi doesn't have a firewall configured, so if you can't reach it, it's the router's fault or you don't have the service you're trying to access running
[19:20] <And_prog_desaste> hi is it posible to backup the SD without an image size the hole SDcard i only used 3GB
[19:21] <And_prog_desaste> Getty: ?
[19:21] <shiftplusone> partclone or take the full image and then shrink it using shrink_image
[19:21] <Getty> dont beg for me :-P there are plenty other people here ;)
[19:22] <Getty> or anything specific? :)
[19:22] <And_prog_desaste> wind auch bei dir
[19:22] <Elderx> And_prog_desaste: or just make something like everything.tar.gz
[19:22] <Getty> hier ist ruhig ;)
[19:22] <And_prog_desaste> dd gzip is the best way Elderx
[19:23] <DK-HaZe> okay now I'm starting to get a bit crazy here, the por 9091 worked 2 sec ago for Transmission now it does not even tough I haven't changed anything :S
[19:23] <And_prog_desaste> DK-HaZe: what is the overall goal to do im just in
[19:24] <DK-HaZe> to get ssh, sftp and transmission running
[19:24] <And_prog_desaste> oh i did setup a full ftp server 8min ago with wifi access point
[19:25] <DK-HaZe> It must be this router
[19:25] <And_prog_desaste> and try to backup the running ssd to a image
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[19:25] <And_prog_desaste> DK-HaZe: where are you from in the world
[19:25] <DK-HaZe> EU/ Denmark
[19:26] <And_prog_desaste> im in southern Germany
[19:26] <DK-HaZe> well haay neighbor :)
[19:27] <And_prog_desaste> hit my nickname
[19:28] <And_prog_desaste> Elderx but there is a full 16GB inside the gz
[19:28] <And_prog_desaste> even with only 2.67 in use
[19:28] <And_prog_desaste> the gz is 3.5gb
[19:33] <lapide_viridi> Why should I change the hostname of my RPI from raspberrypi to the domain I'm trying to host from?
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[19:44] <DK-HaZe> this router really sux big time.. why do service providers always use the cheapest, crapiest routers possible to get hold of
[19:44] <shiftplusone> because they're not the ones who have to use them
[19:47] <DK-HaZe> just cant understand it can open a port, and the suddenly it's closed without me doing anything to it..
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[20:07] <molavy> hi
[20:08] <molavy> i want use picamera to write direct into flash memory
[20:08] <molavy> what i give this error
[20:08] <molavy> IOError: [Errno 22] Invalid argument: '/media/usb/image2015-01-13 20:03:09.790562.jpg'
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[20:09] <molavy> full track
[20:09] <molavy> http://dpaste.com/10M84WM
[20:10] <lordievader> molavy: I wouldn't be surprised if it crashes on the space.
[20:11] <molavy> any idea?
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[20:13] <molavy> lordievader: what?
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[20:13] <lordievader> molavy: There is a space in the filename.
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[20:19] <molavy> lordievader: i replaced space with underscore
[20:19] <lordievader> And?
[20:19] <molavy> no success
[20:19] <molavy> maybe because of :
[20:20] <lordievader> molavy: I presume '/media/usb/' exists?
[20:20] <molavy> yes
[20:20] <molavy> and i check os.path.ismount()
[20:20] <molavy> return true
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[20:23] <molavy> lordievader: fixed it after replace (":","_")
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[20:23] <molavy> lordievader: thanks
[20:24] <lordievader> molavy: Ah, nice.
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[21:23] -mquin- [Global Notice] We are about to start rehubbing the network ahead of planned maintenance work. This will cause some netsplits, but should be completed shortly. Thank you for your patience and for flying freenode! :)
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[21:27] <deviantp> Hello! I have a question about sending WOL from the RPi. I've done a bit of stuff with WOL at work before, but using either Python or Wakeonlan (from the standard repos) and wiresharking from another machine, I don't see any WOL packets being broadcast. Both the RPi and the Wiresharking machine are from the same 1GB 8 port unmanaged switch. Any thoughts on tracking this issue down?
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[21:34] <TheSnide> deviantp: AFAIR, the RPi's eth doesn't support WOL.
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[21:35] <Halbard> deviantp: I used to use etherwake for WOL, works like a charm
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[21:35] <TheSnide> deviantp: ... forget it. i misread. you want to *send* WOL from a Pi.
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[21:37] <deviantp> TheSnide: Yea, in conjunction with Jasper (the python based voice recognition framework)
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[21:37] <- *mpmctoo* I'm not here at the moment, your message has been logged and I'll get back to you when I can / %
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[21:38] <deviantp> Halbard: I've just tried Etherwake ("etherwake -b -D <mac>") and still don't receive the WOL packets. Is there anything in Raspbiann that could block sending to the broadcast address?
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[21:38] <deviantp> I'm not overly familiar with linux firewalling, googling as we speak though
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[21:41] <Halbard> why do you use -b and -D?
[21:41] <deviantp> -b to send to the broadcast address and -D for extra debug
[21:41] <deviantp> I tried without -b as well though
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[21:42] <Halbard> maybe to run as sudo?
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[21:42] <deviantp> I'm in as root atm
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[21:42] <deviantp> :/
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[21:51] <deviantp> ..define "see"
[21:51] <lordievader> deviantp: If you run tcpdump and send a magic packet, does tcpdump show that it has been sent.
[21:51] <deviantp> tcpdump! cool I'll try it
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