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IRC Log for 2015-02-07

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[0:17] <wonx> Hello. I have a AM2302 humidity sensor and i'm having trouble findiing out why it stopped working
[0:17] <wonx> is there any way to troubleshoot it?
[0:18] <wonx> I followed this tutorial. After much effort, it worked, but today after a reboot, it stopped working again
[0:18] <wonx> https://learn.adafruit.com/dht-humidity-sensing-on-raspberry-pi-with-gdocs-logging/wiring
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[2:48] <CowboyPride> So i'm looking to setup rasbian on a pi 2 B, but I'm wondering when crypto support there is for rasberry pi
[2:48] <CowboyPride> I was thinking about utilizing dm-crypt/luks and nfs
[2:49] <CowboyPride> I'm wanting to setup a nfs server but I want to data to at rest to be encrypted with dm-crypt/luks
[2:49] <CowboyPride> Is a rasberry pi able to do this?
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[3:13] <acidjazz> CowboyPride: have you gotten a pi 2 b yet
[3:14] <CowboyPride> no, but I'm thinking about getting one...
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[3:14] <CowboyPride> mcmeletronics is on back order atm.
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[5:46] <CowboyPride> /part
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[9:43] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[10:29] <bionik> Morning!
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[10:31] <lordievader> Hey bionik
[10:31] <bionik> Does anyone of you know about the ethernet port of the pi? I read somewhere that it is "active".
[10:31] <bionik> Could I rewire the port to rest a bit farther from the pcb?
[10:31] <lordievader> I know it is connected through the usb bus.
[10:33] <bionik> Oh, cool. This guy tried to replace the connector but I'm not sure if he did it properly http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=32331
[10:34] <bionik> I have two choices, either remove the ethernet port altogether or rewire it.
[10:35] <lordievader> bionik: Why?
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[10:36] <bionik> I am going to retrofit a rpi2 inside a keyboard
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[10:37] <bionik> And there is not much space.
[10:37] <ShorTie> i would think you could take a piece of cat5 and move it away from the board
[10:38] <ShorTie> just make sure you wire it right, like putting an end on a piece of cat5
[10:38] <ShorTie> other wize you might get cross talk
[10:39] <lordievader> bionik: Nice :D
[10:39] <bionik> Yeah, that would work if the connector itself doesn't have any active hardware in it.
[10:40] <ShorTie> if you want fancy, you could probily get a cat5 cable with a molded female end
[10:40] <lordievader> bionik: "Where is your computer?" My keyboard IS my computer!!! :P
[10:41] <bionik> ShorTie: are you sure that the ethernet connector is passive? Since that guy in the link seems to think that it's active somehow... Not sure what to believe :)
[10:42] <ShorTie> rpi2 has lights in it, but i would think that is just a couple extra wires
[10:42] <ShorTie> i know i've stolen the led's out of 1 before
[10:42] <bionik> lordievader: yep :) and i thought that i will make a switch, which selects two modes: use as raspi, get power from usb cord, and the other mode: use as regular keyboard with the same usb cord
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[10:43] <ShorTie> but light are optional, just gives visual feed back
[10:43] <bionik> ShorTie: yeah, thanks :)
[10:43] <ShorTie> or so i would think
[10:43] <bionik> well i guess i just have to try
[10:43] <bionik> maybe sacrifice one of my rpi1 model b first
[10:43] <ShorTie> Yuppers ... :)
[10:44] <ShorTie> got any old nic cards around ??
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[10:44] <ShorTie> expirement on 1 of them
[10:45] <ShorTie> be like the same thing
[10:45] <ShorTie> hard part of desoldering is the ground stuff
[10:45] <ShorTie> you gotta heat up the whole ground plan
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[10:46] <ShorTie> so i'd do those all at the same time
[10:47] <ShorTie> put your iron on and let it soak in for awhile
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[10:49] <ShorTie> notice in that thread he says 'Practice de-soldering on a USB hub.' ??
[10:49] <ShorTie> but an old nic would work too, same same type thingy
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[10:56] <bionik> yeah :)
[10:56] <bionik> i can hold my soldering iron but those kinds of thingies are always a pain in the ass
[11:01] <bionik> This is a good article: https://learn.adafruit.com/diet-raspberry-pi/overview
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[11:13] <bionik> The ethernet connector needs to be of "magnetic" type: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=98&t=92583
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[12:04] <john-soda> Hey does somebody know how to make backports in raspian? I want to install minidlna 1.1.2 via backport.
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[12:46] <pikid> hey, if I have a Pi 2, is the raspbian image and all of the programs optimised for armv7?
[12:47] <shiftplusone> no
[12:48] <pikid> is this something that's likely to happen sometime soon you think?
[12:48] <shiftplusone> pikid, I'l be doing some testing over the weekend to see how much difference it makes in practice.
[12:49] <shiftplusone> If debian is noticeably faster when compared side by side with raspbian, then there's a case for making an official debian image.
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[14:33] <Natherul> hey all, trying to learn a bit more linux so instead of making a backup of my whole sd card wioth win32diskimager I wanted to do it in a linux command so I plugged in my external hdd and tried sudo dd if=/dev/mmcblk0/ of=/media/External/blabla/name.img and im getting that mmcblk0 is not a directory. anyone care to tell me what im doing wrong? (I want to makea full backup of the SD card)
[14:34] <twolife> Natherul: try without the last "/" , if=/dev/mmcblk0
[14:35] <Natherul> ok, now im getting a permission denied instead
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[14:36] <Payo> use sudo
[14:37] <Natherul> sudo dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 of=/media/External/Raspberry/Backup/20150207.img is what im doing
[14:38] <Natherul> and Im getting the permission denied on the externalo part...
[14:38] <Natherul> is it because that files does not exsist yet?
[14:39] <Payo> no idea :o
[14:41] <Natherul> or could it be since its formatted in another filesystem? I mean I usually use it on my windows machine
[14:41] <shiftplusone> pastebin the output of 'mount'
[14:42] <Natherul> well I never did mount before... thought it did that itself since I can see it in the filesystem?
[14:43] <diederik> still, 'mount' will show how it is mounted
[14:44] <Natherul> http://pastebin.com/UDzG99tk
[14:44] <shiftplusone> looks okay
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[14:45] <shiftplusone> apart from mmcblk0p1 being mounted, but that shouldn't give an error
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[14:46] <Natherul> well yeah since the error is dd: opening `/media/External/Raspberry/Backup/20150207.img': Permission denied
[14:46] <twolife> "type ntfs" , shouldn't it be "type fuse" for having write access to ntfs filesystem with ntfs-3g ?
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[14:47] <Natherul> in my limited knowledge then theres no issues with the permissions of mmcblk0
[14:47] <shiftplusone> I wwas under the impression that kernel's ntfs driver has had write support for a while.
[14:48] <diederik> my guess is that twolife is right
[14:48] <Natherul> alright, so how can I get it working (if not destroying it so I cant access it again in windows that is)?
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[14:50] <diederik> try to create a simple file somewhere on /media/External/Raspberry to check whether you can create a file there
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[14:50] <diederik> 'touch /media/External/Raspberry/test' should do
[14:51] <Natherul> yeah, thats a permission denied
[14:52] <diederik> then install the 'ntfs-3g' package
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[14:53] <diederik> after that, do 'sudo umount /dev/sda1' and then 'sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/External' and try again
[14:55] <Natherul> fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/External: No such file or directory
[14:57] <diederik> after which command?
[14:57] <Natherul> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/External
[14:58] <diederik> does 'ls -l /media' show External?
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[14:59] <diederik> iow: does the directory exist?
[14:59] <Natherul> nope, dont seem like it
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[15:00] <diederik> then you should first create a directory on which to mount it on. It may be wise to choose a different name then External
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[15:01] <Natherul> so just a sudo mkdir in /dev/media/ ?
[15:01] <diederik> no
[15:01] <diederik> don't create anything in /dev/ (ever)
[15:01] <Natherul> sorry i meant /media/
[15:02] <diederik> /media should exist, so create a dir underneath that
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[15:04] <Natherul> did the dd command now., not giving any immidiate errors and the raspberry started working. cheers diederik
[15:05] <diederik> excellent
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[15:06] <Natherul> if I would to unplug it and plug it in again, would I need to issue the umount and mount again or will the raspberry know to do it this time?
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[15:07] <diederik> you probably have to do the umount/mount again
[15:07] <diederik> but the 'mount' command should give you clues whether it's needed or not.
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[15:42] <benxyzzy> dmesg says "[16658.026696] NTFS-fs error (device sda1): parse_options(): Unrecognized mount option nobootwait." The offending line in /etc/fstab is "/dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs defaults,user,nobootwait 0 0" . How do I stop startup waiting forever, when the RPi starts without the external drive connected?
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[17:13] <PovAddict> I installed raspbian from the image provided by raspberrypi.org
[17:13] <PovAddict> but it has lots of stuff preinstalled that I don't need, and I don't want taking space in the SD card
[17:13] <PovAddict> is there a more "minimal" image?
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[17:20] <PovAddict> I already freed a CD's worth of data by uninstalling packages
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[17:40] <MeNotYou> what size of card are you using?
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[17:56] <PovAddict> 8GB, but I need free space for data; someone on #raspberrypi recommended me minibian
[17:57] <bionik> can't you just uninstall some stuff you don't need?
[17:57] <MeNotYou> you might think about a 16GB card.....I find them to be much better
[17:58] <MeNotYou> for the price between an 8GB and the 16GB.....you're better off with the 16
[17:59] <PovAddict> I got the 8GB with my rpi (preloaded with NOOBS)
[18:00] <MeNotYou> you can get a 16 and D/L the IMG from the Org
[18:00] <PovAddict> yeah I know
[18:01] <PovAddict> I mean the card came in the kit, so I didn't choose its size :P
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[18:01] <MeNotYou> yes, I understand this
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[18:54] <pablo_mobile> MeNotYou: You can read this http://sirlagz.net/tag/raspbian-server-edition/
[18:55] <pablo_mobile> MeNotYou: “Raspbian Server Edition is Raspian with a lot of the GUI and other non-essential utilities stripped out.”
[18:58] <pablo_mobile> MeNotYou: If you already know how to install debian, the standard net-install is a minimal Debian installation, and with this https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/ they try to bring that to the Raspberry Pi
[18:58] <pablo_mobile> PovAddict: Sorry, the last three lines are for you
[18:59] <MeNotYou> I enjoyed the read myself! lol
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[20:51] <jascase901> Is there a an easy way to create an image with some extra pre installed libraries?
[20:52] <jascase901> I was looking at the yocto project, but I wasn't sure if that is the easiest way to create a custom raspbian image.
[20:53] <Payo> install what you want and make an image of that ?
[20:55] <jascase901> So theres a way to, install rasbian to an sd card, boot up that card, download the packages I want, and then image that sd card, and then install the new image on another rasberry pi?
[20:55] <jascase901> @payo
[20:56] <Payo> yes
[20:56] <jascase901> Oh thanks. That sounds perfect.
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[20:56] <Payo> the only thing is if you use dd the image will have the size of the full sd card
[20:56] <Payo> not sure how you can make an image of just the used part
[20:57] <jascase901> Oh yeah. I don't want a clone of my system. I want there to still be an installer and stuff.
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[20:57] <jascase901> I just want it to have extra packages
[20:57] <Payo> what installer ?
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[20:58] <Payo> rpi images are clones of a system
[20:58] <Payo> you don't use an installer
[20:58] <jascase901> Oh I don't have a pi yet. I thought it would have an installer that let you configure stuff.
[20:58] <Payo> the raspbian image just has a little program to config stuff that runs at first boot
[20:58] <Payo> but it can be ran any time after that
[20:58] <Payo> raspi-config
[20:59] <Payo> other than that it's already an image, you don't actual install debian yourself
[20:59] <Payo> actually*
[21:00] <jascase901> Ah okay. Then I think I can just clone the system.
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[21:01] <Payo> :)
[21:01] <slpr> is there a raspbian version for raspberry pi2?
[21:01] <Payo> yes
[21:01] <Payo> the one on the foundation site works on pi 2
[21:02] <slpr> Payo: ok, url? :)
[21:02] <Payo> www.raspberrypi.org
[21:02] <slpr> haha ok THAT foundation :)
[21:02] <slpr> thanks
[21:02] <Payo> :)
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[21:03] <Payo> i'm not sure if there are minimal images yet
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[21:03] <Payo> but the normal one works :)
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[21:08] <slpr> Payo: found some images atleast, thanks :)
[21:08] <Payo> :)
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[21:17] <Payo> jascase901: do it on a small sd card it'll be easier to copy it to other cards
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[21:44] <jascase901> Payo, thanks for the tip!!!
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[21:47] <HyP3r> Hi all, I'm trying to boot my new Rasperry Pi B+ with raspbian but there is no video :(
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[21:47] <HyP3r> what can I do?
[21:47] <jascase901> http://www.raspberrypi.org/help/noobs-setup/
[21:48] <jascase901> Try that HyP3r
[21:48] <jascase901> http://www.raspberrypi.org/help/quick-start-guide/
[21:48] <jascase901> Also id look at that this first. You can skip the video but read the steps
[21:49] <HyP3r> Well sorry, I'm a advanced linux user (LPIC 1 and 2). I'm using allready 5 rasperry pi b
[21:49] <HyP3r> I think in my case its a bit more difficult :/
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[21:52] <HyP3r> I also tried to change some settings in the boot confige file e.g. hdmi_hotplug or safe mode. Everything doesn't solve my problem
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[21:52] <HyP3r> I tried NOOBS and RASPIBAN
[21:53] <HyP3r> Voltage ist stable at 5,1V (I treid also a bit higher and lower voltages)
[21:54] <HyP3r> Power LED is ok and Act LED is blinking
[21:54] <HyP3r> but no Video :/
[21:54] <jascase901> Hmm, I think you're more advanced than I am
[21:54] <jascase901> But
[21:54] <jascase901> YOu can try using nmap
[21:54] <jascase901> to scan for an ip adress
[21:54] <jascase901> and see if you can ssh into it
[21:55] <HyP3r> Yep I think this should me next step I also thought about that
[21:56] <HyP3r> One litte question I can not find anywhere: Is the newest Raspbian comptible to Rasperry Pi B+?
[21:56] <jascase901> Also if you can get your hands on an av cable
[21:56] <HyP3r> The Rasperry PI B+ doesn't have a FBAS Output?
[21:57] <jascase901> I think so. I went through to noobs tutorial with a b+ the other day and it worked
[21:57] <jascase901> http://store.cutedigi.com/av-cable-for-raspberry-pi-b/
[21:57] <HyP3r> Ok, as I said its my first B+ the others are normal B
[21:58] <HyP3r> Oh ok Video comes with the RCA
[21:59] <jascase901> Yeah I think this is for the b+. But full disclosure I don't own a pi yet.
[21:59] <MeNotYou> anyone have any luch installing a 3.5" touch screen to the B+?
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[22:14] <HyP3r> jascase901: well Netzwerk is working :)
[22:14] <HyP3r> I can reach the device by network but no Video
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[22:17] <jascase901> HyP3r, Nice. I can't offer much more help in troubleshooting. But if I had to guess id say its a hardware issue then.
[22:17] <jascase901> This is just the defualt noobs install right? from that link I sent you
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[22:18] <jascase901> http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/
[22:18] <HyP3r> No standard Raspbian
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[22:18] <HyP3r> From there http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/
[22:19] <jascase901> Oh. Id try the noobs one just to be sure. Cause thats what I used on my friends b+
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[22:19] <jascase901> and I know that one worked painlessly
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[22:20] <HyP3r> hm … but I tried NOOBS too doens't work, no video
[22:21] <jascase901> hmm then yeah. I think its safe to say you probably installed the image right. And its a hardware issue
[22:21] <jascase901> And as far as hardware goes I am a noob.
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[23:19] <Guma> Anyone here has any experience with QML running in fullscreen mode on Pi with out X11?
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[23:32] <glen> hi. i would like to have owncloud 7.0, any chances of that?
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[23:50] <diederik> glen: it's available on raspbian jessie (just like it is on Debian Jessie)
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[23:54] <ShorTie> jessie upgrade alot quicker on the rpi2

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