#raspbian IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-02-14

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[1:23] <waterfoul> anyone know why the chromium package is set to Auto-Not-For-Us?
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[1:26] <plugwash> waterfoul, link?
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[1:28] <waterfoul> http://buildd.raspbian.org/status/architecture.php?a=armhf
[1:32] <plugwash> ok, so the summary page shows it as "auto not for us" the individual package page shows it as "not in database" that's why I was slightly confused and wanted to confirm what I was seeing
[1:33] <plugwash> anyway the reason is because Debian dropped support for chromium on armhf because we couldn't get the latest (at the time) version to work, it crashed and failed to provide a reproducable backtrace, it also had an insanely long build time
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[1:34] <plugwash> they never added it back and I suspect they would be reluctant to do so unless someone showed they were seriously willing and able to maintain the package on armhf in the long term. In any case it's too late for jessie now.
[1:35] <waterfoul> how would I go about cross compiling it? I have fedora machines available, unfortunately I have no debian machines besides the pi
[1:35] <plugwash> no idea, i'm not a chromium or crossbuilding expert
[1:36] <waterfoul> ok, time to dig around and figure out how to compile
[1:36] <waterfoul> where would I get the source deb? (I've never compiled on debian before, only in redhat like envs)
[1:38] <plugwash> https://packages.qa.debian.org/c/chromium-browser.html , follow the links in the "versions" box and it will take you to pages where you can download the corresponding source packages
[1:39] <plugwash> note that a debian source package is made up of multiple files, there is a tool called "dget" that you can use to download a dsc file and the files it depends on
[1:39] <plugwash> dget can be found in the package devscripts
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[2:40] <diederik> I'm trying to install gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf on my debian 64-bit system, but it fails: http://paste.debian.net/147708/
[2:41] <diederik> should I do 'dpkg --add-architecture armhf'?
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[2:41] <diederik> I'm trying to build a kernel for qemu
[2:43] <diederik> I'm (trying to) follow shiftplusone's article here: http://xecdesign.com/compiling-a-kernel/
[2:44] <plugwash> looks like the compiler you are trying to install uses multiarch library packages so yes you will need to add the armhf architecture
[2:44] <diederik> ah ok, thanks.
[2:45] <shiftplusone> is there a gcc-arm-none-gnueabi?
[2:45] <diederik> It was my first guess, but the article suggests install ia32-libs which would 'translate' to i386
[2:45] <diederik> shiftplusone: yes there is
[2:46] <diederik> ah wait ... almost: gcc-arm-non-eabi
[2:46] <shiftplusone> that might be technically the right one to use to compile the kernel.
[2:46] <plugwash> AIUI linux kernels are built with linux compilers even though they don't run on linux
[2:46] <shiftplusone> really? =S
[2:46] <shiftplusone> okay then, scratch that
[2:47] <diederik> gcc-arm-none-eabi of course. And adjust the Cross-compiler tool prefix accordingly?
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[2:48] <shiftplusone> I use gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi myself, which in Mint is linaro's toolchain, I think.
[2:50] <diederik> ah ok. I have cloned the tools repo, just not configured things accordingly (yet).
[2:54] <diederik> When you specify a cross-compiler tool prefix and then run 'make ARCH=arm' would that imply 'CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabihf-' ?
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[2:54] <shiftplusone> No, I don't think so, I specify CROSS_COMPILE= separately.
[2:54] <shiftplusone> oh wait, yes
[2:55] <shiftplusone> oh wait, yes " specify a cross-compiler tool prefix" bit
[2:55] <shiftplusone> bah.... keyboard trouble.
[2:55] <shiftplusone> you get the idea though
[2:55] <diederik> thanks! And yes, I did :)
[2:57] <diederik> Does Mint have a website like packages.debian.org?
[2:57] <diederik> (so I can figure out what Mint's gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf really is)
[2:57] <shiftplusone> I think that comes from ubuntu's repo
[2:58] <diederik> ah yes, that's right.
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[3:03] <diederik> I get the feeling that I need to setup linaro's toolchain first
[3:04] <diederik> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/gcc-4.8-multilib-arm-linux-gnueabihf shows dependencies to the armel architecture
[3:04] <diederik> And debian's armel would run on the RPi, but debian's armhf not (except the RPi2)
[3:04] <shiftplusone> You're only compiling the kernel, none of that matters.
[3:06] <diederik> also not when the purpose is to use it to test/develop for the Raspbian Netinstaller which uses raspbian packages?
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[3:07] <shiftplusone> Nope, you won't need to compile anything for that after the kernel and qemu is working.
[3:07] <diederik> ah ok, thanks.
[3:14] <diederik> 'make ARCH=arm' completed successfully \o/
[3:19] <diederik> Is the zImage file that is build what you've offered as kernel-qemu?
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[6:15] <Ozy-> hey all, total newbie here
[6:15] <Ozy-> well, not total, but newbie to raspberry pi and linux related stuff...
[6:17] <Ozy-> if it helps, I have a beard :)
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[7:31] <jhuebner> neckbeard? ;P
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[9:30] <GAMiER> not fully about raspbian but rpi. i got rpi 2 and i connecting it with RCA, but in my TV its showing ugly.. from all outputs are going Video output.. Where can be problem?
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[10:19] <mig2> GAMiER: did you look into PAL / NTSC issues?
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[12:08] <Odie_> pal/ntc would probably both be crap quality if you compare it to full hd image
[12:08] <Odie_> so maybe specify whats wrong there
[12:08] <Odie_> so you know what pal/ntsc video should look like and it doesnt?
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[19:15] <lapide_viridi> Anyone familiar with the zip command? (I guess so). Whenever I use sudo zip -r /Home/pi/Desktop/file.zip /var/www/site1/ it adds the folders var and www to the zip, rather than only site1 and its content.
[19:16] <lapide_viridi> Or should I perhaps use /var/www/site1/*
[19:16] <Getty> it shouldnt matter
[19:17] <Getty> but do you really wanna use zip? cause we normally use tar ;-)
[19:17] <Getty> (i must say, i dont know the args of zip perfectly, cause... yeah we dont use it ;) )
[19:18] <lapide_viridi> Getty, I'm not quite there yet. Perhaps I'll make the switch some day.
[19:18] <Getty> "switch" ;) hehe
[19:20] <lapide_viridi> No pun intended.
[19:20] <lapide_viridi> Can you please explain the pun?
[19:21] <Getty> well using tar/gzip instead of zip to pack away your stuff is not really a "switch" ;)
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[19:21] <lapide_viridi> Well, old habit I guess
[19:22] <Getty> but if you really wanna use zip, then you should check the parameters help again, it might just suck it var/www cause you referenced the compelte path
[19:22] <Getty> you might wanna do:
[19:22] <Getty> cd /var/www && zip -r /home/pi/Desktop/site1.zip site1
[19:22] <Getty> (as if i have zip installed...........)
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[19:24] <lapide_viridi> Nope, that did not work
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[19:25] <Getty> no i will not look up the zip documentation for you.... <passiveaggressive> ;-) noone else here packing with zip? ;)
[19:26] <lapide_viridi> I already looked it up, but I've never had any problems with it before.
[19:26] <Getty> voodoo!
[19:26] <Getty> you should consult a priest
[19:26] <Getty> ;)
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[19:28] <lapide_viridi> heh
[19:28] <lapide_viridi> Ah, it woked with ./site1
[19:30] <Getty> http://vbs.io/m/16e.gif
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[19:45] <lapide_viridi> Bookmarked
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[19:56] <filippo> Hi guys, I'm trying to use an UUID identifier in cmdline.txt on my Raspberry Pi model B, I've followed very carefully this guide: https://melgrubb.wordpress.com/2014/08/01/raspberry-pi-home-server-part-6-adding-a-hard-drive/ but when I reboot, the Pi won't find the rootfs partition, the boot process is stuck, If I revert back to the old notation (root=/dev/sda1) everything works, what could be causing this issue? Maybe the kernel?
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[20:01] <filippo> I've tried with two different USB drives (containing the same rootfs) to no avail..
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[20:02] <filippo> Oh, the last thing: the two USB drives contain a GPT structure
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[20:04] <filippo> This is the last thing (sorry guys) the distro that I'm using is not the Raspberry Pi foundation's Raspbian but raspbian-ua-net-inst
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[20:24] <filippo> Hi guys, please have a look at my problem: http://pastebin.com/rMgYUXYA , thank you very much for your time!
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[20:28] <Jusii> post your cmdline.txt
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[21:33] <jeeaar> hi everyone. i bought a b+ noobs today. can i access the /os/raspbian dir from within the raspbian os?
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[22:29] <filippo> Jusii: Thank you for the reply, here it is: http://pastebin.com/ueSUCJiS
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[22:41] <filippo> &quit
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[22:52] <Lux_> Hello together, I'm new here and just started with raspbian and the raspberry pi. I tried over the whole day to connect my pi to an ad-hoc network of my notebook but unfortunately it's not working. Is here anybody who may be able to help me?
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[23:06] <Kylix> Hi! I'm having problems with the latest raspbian build on a Raspberry Pi 2: browsing is very slow
[23:06] <Kylix> It opens the google webpage in about one minute
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