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IRC Log for 2015-02-15

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[2:18] <shiin> I'm trying to copy raspbian onto an SD card going by the methods described on http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/installing-images/mac.md, but the Pi only shows a red LED and doesn't boot. Any suggestions?
[2:20] <plugwash> if you have copied the image correctly you should see (at least) two partitions on the SD card, is that what you see?
[2:20] <plugwash> also what image are you using?
[2:22] <shiin> https://gist.github.com/FunTimeCoding/046a4b3766c3d3974f72 I put the commands into this gist.
[2:23] <shiin> and after flashing it I don't see two partitions, I only see one. and OS X says the SD card isn't initialized and offers to do that for me.
[2:23] <shiin> I tried it with two separate SD cards, different brand, one is 8GB, the other is 32GB
[2:25] <shiin> the pi is a model B (not +), judging from the 2011.12 printed on the board
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[2:26] <plugwash> what I don't quite understand is why some of your commands are reffering to disk2 while others are reffering to rdisk2
[2:26] <shiin> rdisk is a 'raw access' device that operates faster, I tried both ways.
[2:27] <plugwash> ok I think i've spotted your issue
[2:27] <plugwash> you wrote the image to the card without unzipping it first
[2:28] <shiin> I'm downloading a zip there? D: well duh.
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[2:30] <Spuzz> Hi!
[2:30] <Spuzz> I'm wondering what a good Music player app exists for Raspbian?
[2:30] <Spuzz> I just want to listen to music off my pi's headphone jack
[2:31] <Spuzz> I usually use AMAROK on my main linux machine, but that's use kde and raspbian uses LXDE
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[2:32] <Spuzz> sudo apt-get install vlc
[2:32] <shiin> maybe mpd is for you.
[2:33] <Spuzz> I'll give it a shot
[2:34] <Spuzz> I'm using my spare worn out pi to make my stereo into an internet radio jukebox thing
[2:34] <plugwash> on my regular linux system I use rhythmbox, dunno how well it works on a pi though
[2:36] <Spuzz> I'm using Xming so I can just flip tracks and load things from wifi until I figure out how to wire the stereo's IR detector into the GPIO
[2:36] <Spuzz> that way when its in Aux mode it'll catch all the CD player remote buttons as media player buttons
[2:37] <shiin> plugwash: now it works, thanks
[2:38] <Spuzz> Do I switch the sound output in ALSA Like Usual Debian? I'm still trying to figure out this Pi machine, its a neat card
[2:40] <Spuzz> i have a USB headset plugged in...
[2:43] <Spuzz> lsusb says Turtle Beach, that's good
[2:43] <Spuzz> getting closer :3
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[2:45] <Spuzz> Yay it is the same
[2:45] <Spuzz> options snd-usb-audio index=0
[2:45] <Spuzz> make it so the usb sound card goes to first slot (so to speak)
[2:47] <Spuzz> I'm using USB because the headphone jack on the pi was replaced with a 4pin header so I can mount it in the stere
[2:47] <Spuzz> o
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[2:49] <Spuzz> Pi can run off of 4 AA of Duracell batteries with a 5V regulator for approx 3-4 hours at Turbo Mode!
[2:50] <Spuzz> That's as good as my laptop on full speed :P
[2:52] <Spuzz> I hear music!!!!
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[2:54] <Spuzz> It's kind of quiet, time for pulseaudio!
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[3:07] <Spuzz> pulse broke my sound
[3:07] <Spuzz> lol I'll just use alsamixer
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[3:26] <Spuzz> Wow, this pi's sound system's got some kick
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[6:28] <SweetJP> hello
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[8:14] <kylix34> Hello! I have a Raspberry Pi 2 with the latest Raspbian distribution but browsing the internet is very slow. For opening www.google.com it takes more than 1 minute
[8:15] <kylix34> It's faster on a Raspberry Pi B+
[8:16] <kylix34> what could be the problem?
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[8:41] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[8:57] <kylix34> I've checked the DNS and it's OK. I can ping google.com and I get 20-24 ms
[8:58] <kylix34> I don't know what else could I check
[8:58] <kylix34> still very slow loading the webpages
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[9:03] <kylix34> Nobody else having browsing problems on RPi 2?
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[9:05] <kylix34> Mine is slower than RPi B+ when browsing internet
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[9:15] <lordievader> kylix34: What speeds do you get when you run "wget --output-document=/dev/null http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test500.zip"?
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[9:27] <kylix34> Installed Chromium and it loads pages very fast. It seems it's Epiphany related ..
[9:30] <kylix34> anybodu else having problems with Epiphany?
[9:30] <kylix34> *anybody
[9:30] <lordievader> kylix34: Could you answer my question?
[9:31] <kylix34> 1 sec
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[9:31] <kylix34> 829K/s
[9:34] <lordievader> kylix34: Hmm, the Pi can do more, but I guess it is limited by your internet connection. Anyhow, it doesn't look like the problem is the connection, indeed.
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[9:35] <kylix34> yes, I can ping google.com and it gives me 20-24ms
[9:36] <kylix34> also, Chromium opens the pages pretty fast
[9:36] <kylix34> only Epiphany has problems but I don't understand why .... it should be faster than Chromium
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[9:37] <kylix34> anyway, I'm happy Chromium works ...I thought my RPi2 had problems
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[9:48] <bolt> I'm having issues with hostapd. I have a rt2800 based USB NIC, which I'm intenting to use as an access point. I've set a static IP in /etc/network/interfaces, which I can see set for wlan0 on startup. However, once I start hostapd, the wlan0 interface is reconfigured, mon.wlan0 appears, and neither have the IP address I configured for wlan0. Why does it eat my IP address?
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[9:58] <lordievader> bolt: Likely because it is being set into master mode.
[9:58] <bolt> lordievader: any way to keep the ip address while doing that? or re-set it from /etc/network/interfaces?
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[10:01] <lordievader> Hmm, maybe I do not speak rightly. My old script sets an ip too, not sure if that was persistent.
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[10:02] <lordievader> bolt: Anyhow launch hostapd and see if you can set an ip with 'ip a a <ip> dev <nic>'.
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[15:30] <lapide_viridi> Hey, does anyone know why the new pi only has two USB ports?
[15:31] <klem> is this a joke? sounds like you're about to make a wise crack
[15:32] <lapide_viridi> Erm, no.
[15:32] <klem> the Raspberry Pi 2 has 4 ports
[15:33] <klem> the B and B+ have 2 ports
[15:34] <klem> I take that back, the B has 2 ports the B+ has 4
[15:35] <ShorTie> i thought B+ got 4 too dozenion it ??
[15:35] <lapide_viridi> Isn't there only one rpi 2 model?
[15:35] <klem> yeah, I was working from memory, which is like drinking from a toilet with my memory
[15:36] <ShorTie> blame it on CRS
[15:36] <lapide_viridi> Nice one.
[15:37] <klem> yes, as far as I know, there is only one model Raspberry Pi 2 and its not yet available at http://www.raspberrypi.org/products/
[15:37] <lapide_viridi> I am looking at the very same site.
[15:37] <klem> no no, wait there it is,,,its called the 2 model b
[15:37] <lapide_viridi> Seems like the rpi 1 model B is discontinued then, since it isn't listed.
[15:39] <lapide_viridi> Thenagain the rev2 board is not the same as the rpi2 then.
[15:39] <lapide_viridi> I thought someone in the local shop had missed.
[15:39] <lapide_viridi> http://www.raspberrypi.org/a-nice-shiny-photo-of-the-rev2-board-and-user-guide-news/
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[15:40] <klem> the page for the m2 B says its replaces the B+, so presumably eventually there will only be the A+ and the M2B
[15:44] <ShorTie> need to start on the rpi3, lol.
[15:47] <klem> I'm jaded, but I think the test for the M2B is how well it runs XBMC (or Kali or whatever). Supposedly the Pi is the #1 hardware platform for XBMC and it this takes care of the lag, that means you can have a fairlly powerful streaming device for $45 (with case), which is a pretty sweet place to be.
[15:48] <ShorTie> don't know if i'd go that far
[15:49] <ShorTie> maybe use to be, check your page dates
[15:50] <ankan^> I bet RPi 2 is nice to have if you run a gui based computer.. but a Bash terminal based.. do ppl actually need 4 cores and 1 gb ram?
[15:51] <ShorTie> but Tim Taylor is my hero, so.....
[15:53] <klem> Pi is all about graphics, if you don't want/need the HDMI there are more powerful choices, and more power efficient choices. Its a question of what is important to you
[15:54] <ankan^> As a headless server, what would you recomend?
[15:55] <klem> bannana pi, beagle bone black, einstein ...
[15:55] <ankan^> hmm shall look into them! ty
[15:55] <klem> beagle bone black is probably the most popular after RPi
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[15:57] <ankan^> Yea do look nice!
[15:57] * ShorTie thinkz, none of the above
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[16:02] <lapide_viridi> ankan^, I run several wordpress sites of my raspberry pi. Four cores would be better.
[16:03] <lapide_viridi> Atl least until I manage to setup a LEMP stack, instead of a LAMP one.
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[16:03] <ankan^> ok
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[16:06] <ankan^> Maybe it could be nice to have a RPi2 as a headless server running vnc desktop.. to have a trusted browser located at home.. i shall upgrade someday :)
[16:08] <mk2soldier> Hi guys, please have a look at my problem: http://pastebin.com/rMgYUXYA, here it is my cmdline.txt: http://pastebin.com/ueSUCJiS, thank you very much for your time!
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[16:11] <Jusii> mk2soldier: should that be root=UUID=xxxxxx
[16:12] <Jusii> ah, that's something related to GPT
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[16:14] <mk2soldier> Jusii, thank you for the reply, should I use 'UUID' instead?
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[16:15] <haruspexx> hi.. recieved unexpected camera control callback event
[16:15] <haruspexx> what could this error message mean?
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[16:29] <klem> Mk2soldier, I've been reading about this since you posted your question, I really have no previous knowlege on the topic.....but I found this interesting; https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/93767/why-cant-i-specify-my-root-fs-with-a-uuid
[16:30] <klem> you'd probably want to stick with PARTUUID because it specificies a partition UUID for boot. Though certainly trying it the other way round can't hurt
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[16:32] <klem> however the posted link does bring up a pair of interesting points....1. the UUID of the device you're pointing to only has 1 disk partiion, correct? because otherwise the command would have to be altered to indicate a sub-partion on the disk you are pointing to
[16:32] <Glenn> why can't i ping my raspberry by the name he hangs on my router
[16:32] <klem> and 2, Do you get an error code on exit? something like 0,0
[16:33] <klem> Glenn can you ping it by IP address?
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[16:33] <Glenn> klem: yes
[16:33] <heller\> anyone know a sensor to sense water level? that could stand wate
[16:33] <heller\> r
[16:34] <klem> Glenn do you get an unknown host error?
[16:35] <lapide_viridi> Do the pies normally come in a default casing, or does that vary? I'm afriad of buying one without.
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[16:36] <klem> Pi boards come bare, just the board no case, not even a power cable or power supply
[16:37] <klem> Glenn try navigating to the Pi in like windows explorer or Caja or some file management program then ping by name
[16:37] <lapide_viridi> klem, really? Thanks for saving me.
[16:38] <klem> you can use most cell phone chargers and micro USB cables to run the Pi, just be sure the charger is marked 500ma or 1 amp or greater output
[16:39] <Glenn> klem when i go to netwrok in win7 i see my other 3 pc's but not the pio
[16:39] <lapide_viridi> I've found one in my country for just 33 dollars. Seems like the shops want to sell the old models out quickly.
[16:40] <Glenn> ping cant find the hoste name
[16:40] <lapide_viridi> What do you think, would it be better to just buy a old one, instead of paying twice for a new one?
[16:41] <Glenn> klem ping can't find the host name
[16:41] <klem> Glenn. that would make sense if you don't have any shares on the Pi, the reason you can't ping by name is because the machine you are tyring to ping from doesn't know the Pi by name....are you running any software on the Pi that access shares on the local network?
[16:42] <klem> Wow, if its twice as much I'd say go for the old one....but it depends a lot on what you plan to do
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[16:42] <Glenn> klem i run runeaudio
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[16:43] <pycoderf> does anyone have issues updating raspbian? i am using the minimal install and dpkg keeps breaking with error 2 when i run an update
[16:43] <Glenn> klem i run runeaudio and in the documents day say that i can access the pi by runeaudio
[16:46] <klem> RuneAudio doesn't seem to care about nebios names......why do you need to ping by name?
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[16:49] <Glenn> klem want to do the following from de quickstart file of runeaudio it is posible to access the pi by http://runeaudio or http://runeaudio.local in the browser but noting works
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[16:50] <klem> have you tried typing the IP address into the browser?
[16:50] <klem> or if your on a browser running on the Pi type 127.0.0.1
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[16:52] <Glenn> klem form the brouwser on win7 i can access the pi by ip
[16:52] <lapide_viridi> Holy crap! They well the Wi-Pi for as much as the actual pi itself!
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[16:52] <lapide_viridi> What is a reasonable price for pi, casing, power supply, wipi and perhaps SD card? Where should I buy it?
[16:53] <klem> ok, just for giggles and grins...try it again in the same browser but use http://runeaudil now.
[16:53] <klem> only spell it right :)
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[16:55] <klem> Lapide_Viridi I've never bought a WiPi, I have USB wifi dongles that would work if I ever needed to to that
[16:55] <lapide_viridi> Perhaps it is time to just steal the frikkin router and place it somewhere else.
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[16:57] <Glenn> klem it's not working
[16:57] <klem> I've also always had SD cards and power supplies laying around (lucky me ) but Pi is $35 here and cases go for $10 an up.....there is also a Library near me that can print Pi cases on a 3D printer and all I have to pay is for the material
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[16:58] <klem> Glenn is there some reason you can't use the IP address instead of the name? 'cuz I'm a little confused about why its happening
[16:58] <pycoderf> is anyone using this? https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst i cannot seem to do any installations or upgrades with the default install of it
[16:58] <lapide_viridi> Well, I bet I can just buy an adapter and a few SD cards. 4 GB class 10 should be good, right?
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[16:59] <pycoderf> it is very frustrating
[16:59] <Glenn> klem: the ip works but not with the hostname
[16:59] <klem> I think 4 Gb is ok, I seem to recall they recommend 8GB....or maybe I'm dreaming again
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[17:00] <lapide_viridi> klem, I don't think I'll ever need 8 GB
[17:00] <pycoderf> i keep receiving dpkg errors on random files
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[17:04] <pycoderf> nobody has used this i guess
[17:05] <klem> I haven't pycoderf, you're playing way over my head
[17:05] <pycoderf> i think i did 1 clean install of this and it worked but ever since it is broken
[17:06] <pycoderf> i imagine someone here must have sed it
[17:06] <pycoderf> used
[17:06] <klem> Glenn, you may need to go through the processes outlined on this page http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=34620
[17:07] <klem> or you could just use the IP addy
[17:08] <klem> pycoderf, I'm sure several of the people who are regulars here, but afk could help...unfortunately Sunday mornings appear to be a little slim on the knowlege base side of things
[17:09] <pycoderf> the weird prt is dpkg keeps breaking on random packages
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[17:13] <klem> I've seen this quote a couple of times.....and its starting to stick with me "Don't judge Linux by the Pi......."
[17:16] <pycoderf> klem: ok questin. is samba better than nfs for streaming some things over the network? right now i am using samba as windows machines share files but curiou
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[17:17] <heller\> anyone know how could two raspberry pi talk over internet
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[17:18] <lapide_viridi> heller\, depends on how they need to talk.
[17:19] <lapide_viridi> I've got mine locked up in another bouilding, so I SSH to it.
[17:19] <heller\> well its behind a nat
[17:19] <heller\> so it cant be the server one
[17:20] <klem> Pycoderf, I don't have an opinion.....I usually install packages that make that choice for me, such as Kodi, or pwnpi and don't get that deep
[17:20] <pycoderf> klem: for the moment my main pi shares to raspbmc over samba, but was going to adjust my retropie install to keep the games on a share as well
[17:21] <lapide_viridi> heller\, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the nat just translate the IP?
[17:22] <heller\> yes
[17:22] <heller\> and i cant make any rules or port forwards
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[17:26] <klem> heller\ how do you want to connect the 2 Pi, SSH, HTTP server/host, FTP ???? what
[17:27] <lapide_viridi> That sounds tricky. SOrry, I have no experience with nat. Why do you use one, if you don't mind me asking?
[17:28] <pycoderf> and yeah this thing i sbroken
[17:28] <klem> pycoderf, I set up samba the first time like 15 years ago....it was a painful experience and I have avoided doing it again at almost all costs....I just leave it to better minds than mine
[17:28] <heller\> klem: i have a raspberry behind a nat/firewall. and i need it to send data over to a server
[17:28] <pycoderf> klem i meant this minimal install
[17:29] <klem> what kind of data? you could email it? but then you'd have to get someone to get if at the other server....same with like cloud or sharing sites
[17:29] <heller\> sensor data
[17:30] <heller\> email is not the best one
[17:30] <klem> can you set firewall port forwarding at either end?
[17:31] <heller\> cant
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[17:32] <klem> how often will that sensor data update?
[17:32] <klem> rather what is the longest amount of time you are willing to have between updates?
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[17:35] <heller\> well its not defined yet. every minute to once an hour
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[17:35] <heller\> hour max
[17:36] <mortal> how much rasbpian can be optimised for pi2?
[17:36] <mortal> and how much performance penalty is there vs running a armv7 distro
[17:38] <klem> back in the day hackers used to have botted machines report in via IRC, the remote 'data gathering' machine would connect to an IRC server and check to see if a particular user was on....if they were then the 'data gatherer' would start sending private messages of interest
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[17:38] <heller\> heh
[17:38] <pycoderf> klem i may have unbroken it
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[17:39] <klem> WOOT! congrats
[17:39] <pycoderf> i had to remove the tar.list from dpkg and reinstall it.
[17:39] <pycoderf> i think
[17:39] <pycoderf> yep that did it
[17:40] <lapide_viridi> klem, I'm so going to make my server send me updates over IRC.
[17:40] <lapide_viridi> So many things to do, so little time.
[17:41] <pycoderf> now to try and figure out cups
[17:42] <klem> command line IRC client for linux http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup
[17:43] <pycoderf> time to bug report
[17:43] <pycoderf> ha
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[17:45] <NetBilly> Good evening.
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[17:46] <NetBilly> I have a pi that stops responding randomly, but never before running for over 24 hours. It is used as a camera, so there is no kbd, mouse or screen connected. using eth
[17:46] <NetBilly> nothing in syslog relating to any crash
[17:46] <klem> NetBilly, what is the output of the powersupply feeding the Pi?
[17:46] <NetBilly> I know the hardware is fine. Is there perhaps power management or something that could cause it ?
[17:47] <NetBilly> klem: The power supply is running two raspberry pi's. One is fine
[17:48] <NetBilly> The camera is motion activated, and I suspect that it stops responding after many hours of doing nothing. I haven't scheduled anything that would keep it going. so that is still a theory
[17:48] <klem> have you swapped the SD card between the Pi's, that would rule out whether or not its a power management thing
[17:48] <NetBilly> well, one of them has pan/tilt servos connected, so the programming is different
[17:49] <NetBilly> I run the servos off the power supply, and I know that it is not caused by a power dip from the servos
[17:50] <klem> could the fixed camera operate with the software from the one with the servos without puking?
[17:50] <NetBilly> When it stopped responding 2 days ago, the uv4l web service was still running, but ssh was dead
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[17:50] <NetBilly> I have since then disabled uv4l, as I wasn't using it, but it still hangs
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[17:52] <klem> So is the whole thing hanging or just the SSH?
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[17:53] <NetBilly> it runs /dev/servoblaster to control servos using pwm.
[17:53] <NetBilly> ethernet stops. ping stops responding
[17:53] <NetBilly> I have no idea if video still works
[17:53] <klem> right
[17:53] <NetBilly> it is too far away for a screen. Reboots fixes it, making this quite difficult to diagnose
[17:55] <NetBilly> harr. I will have to clone the working weezy, and install only servoblaster on it. Maybe the latest version has some issue
[17:55] <klem> I would try the software swap first, to resolve whether its hardware or software related, The PTZ software shouldn't be a problem it'll just error out ot send codes out a port that does nothing in response
[17:56] <NetBilly> The control software isn't the same. I will have to convert camera two as well.
[17:56] <NetBilly> I will try that. Thank you klem =)
[17:57] <klem> no prob
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[19:21] <hecatae> would anyone be able to help me with retropie? simply do you need a usb keyboard to configure it?
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[19:29] <ContactLeft> initally
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[19:38] <hecatae> ContactLeft: ok, will do that tomorrow, thank you
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[19:56] <pycoderf> hello. anyone familia with cups? whenever i try and print i see usblp0 removed, then then when cups tells me it is done then i see the reconnect message
[19:56] <pycoderf> but it never prints
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[19:58] <Guma> I am trying to build qt 5.4.1 branch from git for my Raspberry Pi. I have a problem detecting mtdev. I did install mtdev packages and I am passing -mtdev to ./configure. Any one did see this or did encountered it? My gole is to build qt to run qml apps in full screen mode in eglfs mode.
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[20:12] <Entvex> Hello how easy is to to mount external harddrives to raspberrypi?
[20:13] <ppq> very easy
[20:13] <ppq> if you have a powered usb hub, that is
[20:13] <Entvex> like this one ?
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[20:15] <klem> are you holding an external harddrive up to the monitor for us to look at?
[20:15] <Entvex> http://www.deltaco.eu/en/product/(MAP-GD35U3)/Deltaco-MAP-GD35U3---Storage-controller-with-clone-function---25---35-shared---SATA-3Gb-s---300-MBps---USB-30---black/
[20:15] <Entvex> sorry had to find an english page :)
[20:17] <klem> well none of the R Pi's supprt USB 3, but presumably its backwards compatible to 2
[20:17] <Entvex> oh
[20:17] <Entvex> i was thinking the new version 2 had usb 3
[20:18] <klem> maybe....but i'd be a little surprised...lets check
[20:18] <Entvex> okay
[20:19] <klem> http://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-2-model-b/ doesn't specifiy
[20:20] <Entvex> yeah
[20:20] <Entvex> dam
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[20:20] <Entvex> okay i can find a cheaper one then
[20:21] <klem> this page implies its not 3.o http://www.itpro.co.uk/mobile/23969/raspberry-pi-2-review
[20:21] <klem> umm check banana pi I think it has a Sata plug right on the board
[20:21] <klem> http://www.bananapi.org/p/product.html
[20:24] <klem> of course, the USB drive you linked to is probably backwards compatible to USB2 its a matter of your application as to whether or not it would make any difference at all 2 vs 3
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[20:26] <Entvex> I see
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[20:26] <Entvex> Okay i'll just do with the single disk one
[20:28] <klem> how large a drive do you need?
[20:29] <Entvex> 2 tb :)
[20:29] <Entvex> so it is a kinda big drive
[20:29] <Entvex> I am going to use the pi as a back up
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[20:30] <klem> yeah, I guess so.
[20:31] <klem> I was going to recommend this, but its much too small http://www.amazon.com/PNY-Turbo-128GB-Flash-Drive/dp/B00FE2N1WS/ref=pd_ybh_1http://www.amazon.com/PNY-Turbo-128GB-Flash-Drive/dp/B00FE2N1WS/ref=pd_ybh_1
[20:31] <klem> 128Gb USB flash $35
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[20:33] <Entvex> that is a very cheap flash drive :)
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[20:38] <klem> Very cheap, and very fast. I am thinking about getting one and putting multiple Linux recovery, repair, and maintenance systems on it for PC desktop support
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[22:06] <ipsumj> Hello, what happened to the W1 driver? i used it with the system from 2014-12-24, after the last updates there are no devices listet in /sys/bus/w1/devices/ not even the w1_bus_master1
[22:06] <ipsumj> when i reflash the old image, it works again (hardware is not defect)
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[22:14] <joe1> m
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[23:15] <plugwash> GRR so close and yet so far, kernels really do piss me off
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[23:22] <pablo_pi> Getty: I don't have any RPI2, but in raspberrypi.org states that we could install a debian armhf
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[23:34] * ShorTie thinkz, better to be pissed off then pissed on atleast
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