#raspbian IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-02-21

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[4:34] <anunnaki> so what happens when this new xbmc comes out.. osmc? that is what is called kod now right? and kodi was xbmc right? so will xxbmc on raspbian be osmc?
[4:37] <nikomo> osmc is a distro, not a problem. kodi on raspbian will be kodi. raspbmc will be called osmc
[4:37] <nikomo> not a program*
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[4:39] <anunnaki> doesnt raspbmc use kodi? so osmc will use kodi then? i thought kodi was beig callled osmc..
[4:39] <shiftplusone> kodi is being called kodi
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[4:40] <nikomo> osmc is a distro, kodi is the media center software
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[4:45] <nikomo> Are raspbian installs that were set up with a Model B+ supposed to not boot on the Pi2?
[4:45] <nikomo> just got mine in the mail today
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[4:49] <plugwash> nikomo, was the install in question made from the raspberry pi foundation raw raspbian image? using noobs? using something else?
[4:49] <nikomo> raspbian-ua-netinstall
[4:49] <nikomo> the latest available release on github
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[4:50] <nikomo> I wanted a barebones jessie install and the uainstall-setup was really nice, just had to change one thing in the config .txt
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[4:51] <plugwash> ok, raspbian-ua-netinst isn't ready for the pi2 yet, it's possible to fix things up manually, gimme a sec to put together the steps
[4:51] <nikomo> cheers
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[4:55] <plugwash> ok, the following should do it (all run as root)
[4:56] <plugwash> apt-get update && apt-get install raspberrypi-bootloader-nokernel linux-image-rpi-rpfv linux-image-rpi2-rpfv
[4:56] <plugwash> remove any existing kernel and initramfs lines in config.txt
[4:56] <plugwash> remove /etc/kernel/postinst.d/raspbian-ua-netinst if it exists
[4:57] <plugwash> add the following to the end of config.txt
[4:57] <plugwash> [pi1]
[4:59] <plugwash> kernel=vmlinuz-3.18.0-trunk-rpi
[4:59] <plugwash> [pi2]
[4:59] <plugwash> kernel=vmlinuz-3.18.0-trunk-rpi2
[5:02] <plugwash> that should do it, note that this will disable automatic updating of config.txt for new kernel versions, we had to do that becaue the update hook script is not yet ready. Hopefully it will be updated later and you will be able to put it back
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[5:09] <nikomo> plugwash: thanks, booted up without problems.
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[9:40] <Lartza> Does raspbian have full 1GB accessible on Pi 2?
[9:40] <Lartza> And if so, how? :D
[9:46] <ShorTie> not sure what cha mean there .. :/~
[9:46] <ShorTie> but i'm leaning to nop
[9:48] <Lartza> Found my answer already
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[9:55] <shiftplusone> Lartza, yes, minus the little bit used up by peripherals addresses.
[9:55] <Lartza> Has Sonic Pi been fixed already?
[9:56] <shiftplusone> yes
[9:56] <shiftplusone> it was an uninitialized variable causing the problem
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[10:04] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[10:08] <shiftplusone> hey
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[13:00] <GuySoft> hey all, who do i complain to that the image names in raspbian were not consistent the last three releases?
[13:05] <shiftplusone> probably nobody
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[13:17] <GuySoft> shiftplusone, well, they are written by someone
[13:17] <GuySoft> and they where currently
[13:17] <GuySoft> wheezy-raspbian -> raspbian -> raspbian-wheezy
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[13:17] <shiftplusone> You can report it to asb and/or the foundation, but given the magnitude of the issue... I don't know how much anybody will care.
[13:17] <GuySoft> We have scripts in the OctoPi project that take in to account the naming of the image to determine which one to use. surely this should be static
[13:18] <shiftplusone> I agree, it should be.
[13:19] <GuySoft> shiftplusone, who is asb? We are talking to someone which I can't find his name at the moment
[13:19] <shiftplusone> alex bradbury
[13:19] <shiftplusone> he rolls the images
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[13:33] <GuySoft> thanks shiftplusone, e-mailed him
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[13:33] <shiftplusone> good luck
[13:33] <Josl> Hello everybody. How is it possible to install ONLY SECURITY UPTADES automatically on Raspbian?
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[13:35] <diederik> Josl: no, since there's no separate security repo
[13:36] <diederik> s/no/It's not/
[13:38] <Josl> Is Raspbian suitable for small webservers?
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[13:38] <shiftplusone> yes
[13:39] <Josl> So if I install 'unattended-upgrades' on Raspbian it install ALL updates available?
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[13:43] <diederik> I think it doesn't install any upgrades, but I'm not sure
[13:44] <diederik> can you pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy' ?
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[13:46] <diederik> Packages fitting the following pattern would be automatically upgraded, but I think none do:
[13:46] <diederik> "origin=Raspbian,archive=stable,label=Raspbian-Security";
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[13:47] <Josl> diederik: Why do you think that nothing will happen?
[13:47] <Josl> diederik: There is a label with 'Raspbian-Security'. So only Security updates?
[13:48] <diederik> because I think there is no repo with label Raspbian-Security
[13:48] <diederik> you mean in apt-cache policy's output?
[13:49] <Josl> diederik: Is there a good website where I can find more information about that?
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[13:50] <diederik> don't know, I looked directly inside the .deb package
[13:50] <diederik> in there, there's a file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrade which is the relevant configuration file
[13:51] <diederik> and the line I posted earlier, starting with "origin=..." is from that file
[13:53] <diederik> on a debian stable system, there is a security repo and then there probably is a match to 'label=Debian-Security' (not 100% sure since I haven't run stable in ages)
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[13:58] <Josl> diederik: Thanks for your help. Raspbian seems to be complicated ;)
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[14:09] <diederik> yw. It's not really complicated and most things are the same as in debian, just not this particular package
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[15:26] <heller\> any suggestion on how to read current and voltage with raspberry?
[15:26] <heller\> <5A and max 18V
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[15:30] <Neer-Do-Well> you want to use the Raspberry Pi as a multimeter? portable or mounted in something as a permanent component?
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[15:34] <klem> http://www.yoctopuce.com/EN/article/turn-your-raspberry-pi-into-a-network-multimeter
[15:35] <klem> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=66637&p=493425
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[15:59] <heller\> a Yocto-Display OLED screen, for a very readable display (70 EUR) - cheapo eh?
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[16:08] <Neer-Do-Well> you don't actually have to have the display screen, read the values over the network.
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[16:15] <curiousduder> does anyone know if the pi can handle a USB monitor?
[16:15] <curiousduder> was wondering about the USB power out/amps
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[16:17] <curiousduder> and would rasbian support it?
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[16:18] <heller\> but i would like a lcd for raspberry
[16:18] <heller\> less than 20€
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[16:18] <heller\> ideas?
[16:18] <heller\> something easy to use
[16:18] <Neer-Do-Well> USB monitor, as in like those universal docking stations for laptops that have a USB intut and a monitor output.....easy answer 'no' most of those require USB 3 to be worth a crap
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[16:19] <heller\> if adc is resolution 18 bits, what does it mean? 18^2?
[16:19] <Neer-Do-Well> heller\ in the USA I regularly find old LCD displays for ~$20 in 2nd hand stores and charity thrift stores
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[16:19] <heller\> ones that would be easy to drive?
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[16:20] <curiousduder> ahhh, thanks Neer... just checking them out on amazon and wondering
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[16:21] <Neer-Do-Well> heller\ not certain of your context but, yes I believe an 18bit adc would resolve 18^2 levels in each sample
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[16:23] <Neer-Do-Well> I have no idea what you would find if you could find LCDs where you are....the ones I find are mostly VGA so you'd either need an adapter or to take it apart and re-engineer it for the on-board LCD on a pi......or am I thinking of a different SOC dev board that has LCD on the board?
[16:23] <curiousduder> I was looking at the car DVD players that have a slave screen, and just using the RCA jack for a mobile device
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[16:25] <curiousduder> because the dvd player screen only has an output
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[16:26] <Neer-Do-Well> if the DVD player has an NTSC output you could probably put it into the cam input...but I don't know never checked
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[16:36] <curiousduder> I would need to take apart the master/main device that has the DVD player to see if that would be possible
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[16:53] <Neer-Do-Well> what is your end goal? The Pi obviously can support a display, and a USB DVD. What functionality does your current DVD player offer that is indespensible?
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[16:59] <curiousduder> I have two kids, I want to use 2x Pis for an entertainment center in the vehicle for long trips... they can watch whatever movie they want... and not fight over it... and add some emulators on it as well
[16:59] <curiousduder> so a normal s-video out, will work
[17:00] <curiousduder> But, right now I am researching displays... because the dvd player I have, is a master/slave setup
[17:02] <Neer-Do-Well> I had a friend who just did that, he used a regular computer monitor with HDMI input and speakers and XBMC/Kali it worked 'ok' but his kids were like 5 and the XBMC interface was a bit much for them
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[17:06] <MeNotYou> I'm just working with a suptronics X300 board, adding it to my B+
[17:06] <curiousduder> my kids are used to android and rokus, so I think that they shouldnt have an issue
[17:06] <MeNotYou> after I do all the driver installs, does it write it to the firmware..?
[17:07] <curiousduder> MenotYou, Im not sure that I am understanding what you are trying to ask?
[17:07] <curiousduder> It should just manipulate the image
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[17:14] <klem> I find this board (and this site) pretty confusing, it talks about HDMI to VGA almost exclusively, but I don't see any VGA connections anywhere on the board.
[17:15] <klem> http://www.dx.com/p/supstronics-x300-expansion-board-for-raspberry-pi-model-b-black-multicolored-354713?utm_rid=26255933&utm_source=affiliate#.VOi8B46VvmE
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[17:17] <curiousduder> I dont see one either, but you can purchase an adapter for HDMI-VGA/DVI
[17:17] <curiousduder> the RPi2 has an S-Video out
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[17:18] <curiousduder> so the expansion board shouldnt need one
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[17:19] <Neer-Do-Well> s-video and VGA are not the same thing, s-video has a max res of 420X680
[17:19] <curiousduder> true
[17:20] <curiousduder> that expansion board schematic doesn't show any out put other than audio, bluetooth, and wifi
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[17:27] <MeNotYou> klem; that's the board I have. I'm setting it up in now but I would also like to set it up on my xbmc card as well....but I can't reach the command line in xbmc
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[17:30] <klem> when exiting RasBMC you hit exit when you see the cursor, or you can SSH in
[17:31] <klem> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=13940
[17:32] <urghh> Hi, it is possible to play quake 3 with ps3 controllers ?
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[17:37] <Neer-Do-Well> urghh: I know that there exists USB controller drivers for Linux that if you can find you can probably 'sudo apt-get install' whether on not they would work or how well I have no idea
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[17:40] <urghh> Yep Thank's Neer-Do-Well, my ps3 controller works fine with gba/gbc emulators but not with the quake 3 port, i don't know if it works or if i can configure it somewhere
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[17:41] <Neer-Do-Well> I wouldn't know, while Quake 3 on Pi sounds kinda cool, its not my thing
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[17:48] <Joso> Hi. Is there a OS for Raspberry Pi without a GUI by default?
[17:48] <Joso> I want to use it as a server
[17:48] <wiiguy> just remove the gui ?
[17:48] <Payo> https://minibianpi.wordpress.com/
[17:48] <Payo> it's a minimal raspbian install
[17:49] <Payo> there's a lot more than just the gui that is useless on the regular raspbian if you want to make a server
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[17:50] <wiiguy> true
[17:51] <Joso> Payo: Yes, I think so, too. Maybe I should look for another OS
[17:51] <Payo> or use what I just linked :)
[17:51] <Payo> it's very minimal
[17:51] <gokl> Hi, does the raspberry pi 2 still need the mpeg2 codec license?
[17:51] <Payo> uses like less than 30MB of ram by default
[17:52] <Neer-Do-Well> Pidora is CL only I believe, I do know that it is intended for headless operation
[17:52] <Payo> if it's for a server you could also use http://sjoerd.luon.net/posts/2015/02/debian-jessie-on-rpi2/
[17:52] <Joso> Payo: What are the differences between the linked and the official Raspbian?
[17:52] <Getty> Joso: https://vonbienenstock.de/hiveberry/ is also an option :)
[17:52] <Payo> it's a "regular" debian jessie
[17:52] <Payo> compiled for armv7
[17:53] <Payo> Joso: there is _nothing_ installed on minibian by default
[17:53] <Payo> pretty much just the base system
[17:53] <Payo> even nano is not installed
[17:53] <Payo> it just has openssh-server and you install whatever you need
[17:54] <Payo> It includes many extra packages installed by default,
[17:54] <Payo> isn't the point to include less, not more ? :p
[17:54] <urghh> cool a small raspbian, thanks
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[17:55] <Payo> there's also https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/
[17:56] <Payo> but for now it doesn't work on the pi 2
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[17:56] <Payo> this too: http://www.linuxsystems.it/raspbian-wheezy-armhf-raspberry-pi-minimal-image/
[17:56] <Payo> no pi 2 either
[17:57] <urghh> I put 3 raspbian images ( only rootfs ) on 3 ext4 partitions in a 16Go usb key ( sda1, sda2, sda3 ) and edit the /boot/cmdlines.txt when i want to boot sda1, sda2 or sda3.. it's annoying but i found that solution, is there any way to have grub or something like that on the raspberry pi?
[17:57] <urghh> Thanks Payo i'll try
[17:57] <wiiguy> urghh bootberry ?
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[17:58] <urghh> it needs squashfs image wiiguy ? or not
[17:58] <urghh> i'll take a look
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[17:58] <wiiguy> squashfs is without the fat partition ?
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[18:02] <Joso> By the way: Why does Raspbian not offer a server variant? Raspberry Pi is often used as a server
[18:02] <Getty> "server"........
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[18:02] <urghh> i think it needs the fat partition for berryboot, i only have the rootfs image but it can be a solution, thanks wiiguy
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[18:03] <Getty> Joso: there is no real point to make any changed version, nothing would be really different
[18:03] <wiiguy> no
[18:03] <wiiguy> it does need teh fat partition urghh
[18:03] <wiiguy> not need*
[18:03] <Getty> Joso: whoever uses a pi as "server" is not using it seriously as server... its not like that anyone should do that ;)
[18:04] <Getty> its not a good file server, its not a good database, its nothing good at "serving" ;)
[18:04] <urghh> really ? mhh cool, i'll take a look at bootberry
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[18:04] <Payo> that's bs Getty
[18:04] <urghh> i must convert my image to squashfs ?
[18:04] <Payo> mine is a subsonic server
[18:04] <Payo> it works great
[18:05] <Joso> Getty: Don't think so. For a lightweight thing it's perfect
[18:05] <Getty> oh yeah something you run on there includes the term server, so raspberry is a good server ;) i get it ;)
[18:05] <Payo> it's nothing good at anything compared to a real pc
[18:05] <Payo> but it's cheap
[18:05] <Payo> and for the price it's a great server
[18:05] <Payo> you can run anything on it
[18:05] <Getty> dude, we talk about here if there should be a "server edition" of some sort
[18:05] <Getty> could we please stop calling anything that runs a service "a server"?
[18:06] <Getty> you have all kind of server int he raspbian, its all there, new server get added
[18:06] <Payo> why ? isn't that the definition of a server ?
[18:06] <Getty> there is no fucking point in making a special server edition, there would be no difference, no point
[18:06] <Payo> ofc there would be differences
[18:06] <Getty> payo: well, then your mobile phone is a server
[18:06] <Payo> look at minibian
[18:06] <Payo> a lot less ram/cpu used by default
[18:06] <Payo> depending on what you want to run on it it's important
[18:07] <Payo> ok i'm off you're just retarded
[18:07] <Getty> the difference is not really having any effect on the speed and performance of the servers
[18:07] <Getty> which is just brutal horrible given the I/O performance
[18:07] <Getty> just because you can do it with it doesnt mean "its optimized for that"
[18:07] <Getty> its just a linux
[18:08] <Getty> you can run services on it, great, thats good and thats wanted, but if you want to run a postgresql on there and make a serious webservice, even if its just for a local team, you get already performance disadvantages
[18:08] <Getty> i mean, if you have already a high power PC in your lan, install a vmware linux and you got the performance of 100 raspberries as "server"
[18:08] <Payo> nobody is saying we want to make a "serious webservice"
[18:08] <Payo> we're talking small home server with just a few services
[18:08] <Payo> how fucking dumb are you :|
[18:08] <Getty> what the fuck do i explain to you?
[18:08] <Getty> are you stupid?
[18:08] <Getty> what the fuck>?
[18:08] <Getty> and did i said ONCE this is not what you should do????
[18:08] <Getty> you retard?
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[18:09] <wiiguy> GUYS
[18:09] <Getty> i just say: its stupid to say "raspberry pi is a good server"
[18:09] <wiiguy> you want fries with that ?
[18:09] <Getty> i just say: its stupid to say "raspberry pi is NOT a good server"
[18:09] <Getty> what the fuck is wrong with you moron?
[18:09] <Getty> i never said "dont run services on a raspberry pi" i never said that
[18:09] <Getty> what a retard
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[18:10] <Getty> so TL;DR: a fucking raspberry pi "server edition OS" is making no sense, you always want something more as "just being a server" from a raspberry
[18:10] <Getty> like attaching sound, attaching HDMI and stuff, and in this moment its already not "a server only"
[18:11] <Getty> i just said i mixed up shit again ;)
[18:12] <urghh> okay.
[18:12] <wiiguy> payo left long ago :p
[18:13] <Getty> i know, i just wanted to finish my thoughts
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[18:13] <Getty> as Joso asked the question
[18:13] <wiiguy> fair enough :)
[18:13] <Getty> not Payo
[18:13] <wiiguy> oh :p
[18:13] <Getty> Payo just mixed in and thought i say "dont run anything server on a raspberry"
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[18:14] <wiiguy> so Getty what are ya doing with ya raspberry('s) ?
[18:14] <Getty> wiiguy: did you attached a raspberry to your wii or is your nick just a big disappointment? ;-)
[18:14] <wiiguy> i had this nick before the wii existed :p
[18:14] <Getty> wiiguy: they are just tools, i actually maed a raspberry pi based product which didnt sold, now we make own arm boards
[18:15] <wiiguy> what was teh product ?
[18:15] <Getty> aquariumhive.com
[18:15] <Getty> we still would sell it but only if a bigger charge is ordered
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[18:15] <Getty> Now we made this: http://www.ledaquaristik.de/SunRiser-8-Tagessimulation-und-Lichtsteuerung as contract production
[18:16] <wiiguy> i have no idea what it says :p
[18:16] <wiiguy> but i see leds :p
[18:16] <Getty> http://i.imgur.com/sH4f0qB.jpg thats inside
[18:16] <Getty> its LED controller, you know daylight simulation and shit
[18:16] <wiiguy> ah
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[18:17] <wiiguy> the battery is for keeping the time ?
[18:17] <Getty> yes
[18:17] <Getty> RTC
[18:17] <wiiguy> smart
[18:17] <Getty> well, required for this product ;)
[18:17] <Getty> we are parallel making a SunRiser 4 which is a hand device, a little microboard, but it also needs a RTC clock ;)
[18:17] <Getty> you just have to set time by hand hehe
[18:18] <wiiguy> rtc chips are anoying to set(atleast on arduino)
[18:18] <Getty> dude.... tarduino.....
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[18:18] <Getty> seriously, go away from ATMEGA as fast as you can on all matters...... dont touch the arduino hell
[18:18] <Getty> its not that ATMEGA is bad, its just about that you ride a dead horse
[18:19] <wiiguy> i just bought a cheap knock off :p
[18:19] <wiiguy> costed liek 2 usd
[18:19] <Getty> get some nucleo development boards
[18:19] <Getty> you can thank me later
[18:19] <wiiguy> meh im already doen with arduino stuff anyways
[18:19] <wiiguy> tried to make a cat feeder
[18:19] <Getty> yeah then put the stuff inthe trashcan and order some ARM stuff, STM32 is my suggestion ;) but its your pick
[18:19] <Getty> uh nice thing
[18:19] <wiiguy> hardware done, software done, case failed
[18:20] <Getty> i want to make a lot animal products
[18:20] <Getty> yeah
[18:20] <Getty> case is 50% of the job
[18:20] <Getty> most often
[18:20] <Getty> sunriser 4 was like 3 weeks alone finding the cheapest case that still works for the components we need to put in (like LCD display)
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[18:20] <Getty> for the sunriser 8 it was 2 weeks, ordering a lot of cases from US
[18:21] <Getty> casing is really madness
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[18:21] <Getty> reality.. physics... and you cant write a damn function that solves the problem ;)
[18:21] <wiiguy> :p
[18:22] <Getty> i actually would know how to make a catfeeder case
[18:22] <Getty> a motor, a pipe and..... i dont know the english term a metal spiral that is attached to the motor
[18:22] <wiiguy> spring ?
[18:23] <Getty> no not spring
[18:23] <Getty> wait let me get picture
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[18:28] <Getty> wiiguy: http://www.werkstaetten-gmbh.de/files/bilder_galerie/foerdertechnik/Image_0004.jpg
[18:28] <wiiguy> ah
[18:28] <Getty> wiiguy: those exist in all kind of materials and sizes, and combined with a tube which has a hole on top and a hole bottom, you get a pretty solid solution
[18:28] <wiiguy> yeah no idea what is called :p
[18:28] <Getty> yeah that was my problemtoo ;)
[18:28] <Getty> "Schneckenförderer" is the german word i ahd to find out again
[18:29] <Getty> spiral conveyor / screw conveyor / screw feeder / auger
[18:29] <Getty> are the terms the translator tells me
[18:29] <wiiguy> meh i was trying to do it with a servo :p
[18:29] <Getty> well you put a servo on that spiral
[18:29] <Getty> and turn it always as much as needed
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[18:29] <wiiguy> you weill needed a hacked servo for that spiral though
[18:30] <Getty> you dont need a big spiral actually, can be done pretty minimal
[18:30] <wiiguy> since a servo only turns 180 degrees
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[18:30] <wiiguy> from 0
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[18:30] <Getty> oh yeah sorry, a motor would be best, just turning
[18:30] <Getty> step motor
[18:30] <wiiguy> yeah
[18:30] <Getty> they ar enot expansive
[18:30] <Getty> and pretty covered by handling
[18:31] <wiiguy> just order most stuff from china
[18:31] <wiiguy> always cheap there
[18:31] <Getty> i am a german.... i order german ;)
[18:31] <wiiguy> i am dutch
[18:31] <wiiguy> i order china :p
[18:31] <Getty> ah thats why you guys are so behind technology wise ;)
[18:31] * Getty runs
[18:32] <wiiguy> i guess you never see what they do in UT delft
[18:32] <Getty> wiiguy: you know this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmpsmVb3LsY :)
[18:32] <wiiguy> i dont
[18:32] <wiiguy> i dont even understand it
[18:33] <Getty> thats sad ;) wait...
[18:33] <Getty> http://lyricstranslate.com/en/holland-nederland.html
[18:34] <wiiguy> lol
[18:35] <wiiguy> i dont care about soccer though :p
[18:35] <Getty> btw, i was there.... portugal vs netherlands in germany
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[18:35] <Getty> and ... no joke: 500 MINIMUM of driving homes in front of the stadium
[18:35] <heller\> so, anyone familiar with MCP3424?
[18:35] <wiiguy> Getty, campers ?
[18:37] <Getty> wiiguy: yeah, RVs
[18:37] <wiiguy> yeah those things
[18:37] <wiiguy> 500 ?
[18:37] <wiiguy> damn
[18:37] <Getty> yeah it was like "i dont have pre-justice but this .... THIS....."
[18:37] <Getty> i mean.... you know????
[18:38] <wiiguy> poor people with no life except soccer :p
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[18:38] <Getty> haha
[18:38] <wiiguy> if i were to watch soccer, tv is enough :)
[18:38] <wiiguy> and i dont even need to watch it
[18:39] <wiiguy> i can just listen to teh cars honking
[18:39] <Getty> dude you know yourself that its a netherland sign ;) nto a soccer sign ;) the RVs ;)
[18:39] <Getty> they all had netherland flag
[18:39] <wiiguy> hahaha
[18:39] <wiiguy> yeah some(maybe even most) are idiots here
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[18:41] <Getty> well most people in the world are idiots ;)
[18:42] <Getty> still i am visiting your beloved country very regulary ;)
[18:42] <wiiguy> i never left this boring country :p
[18:42] <wiiguy> <Getty> still i am visiting your beloved country very regulary ;) > weed ?
[18:43] <Getty> weed
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[18:43] <wiiguy> thought so :p
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[18:43] <Getty> why else? high tech? ;)
[18:43] <wiiguy> who knows
[18:44] <wiiguy> the red district ?
[18:44] <Getty> yeah sure, driving through complete netherland to get a prostitute ;)
[18:44] <Getty> you know düsseldorf? ;)
[18:44] <wiiguy> no
[18:44] <Getty> town.. germany.. pretty big..... ;)
[18:45] <wiiguy> sounds like a magician ...
[18:45] <wiiguy> i present to you düsseldorf !!!!
[18:45] <wiiguy> :)
[18:45] <Getty> http://i.imgur.com/9EU7CM9.jpg you can see the red light district from the rails of the train ;)
[18:46] <Getty> all those windows are prostitutes
[18:46] <wiiguy> ya familiar there ? :p
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[18:46] <Getty> try to avoid knowing about it, if your train past by and you see the naked ladies presenting themself there ;)
[18:46] <wiiguy> hahaha
[18:47] <Getty> seriously, thats easier to find as the red light district in amsterdam ;)
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[18:47] <heller\> oh how i hate this
[18:47] <Getty> but its funny, if you dont want to go to the red light district, you will still end up there probably
[18:47] <Getty> in amsterdam
[18:47] <heller\> to read one ADC, i need 3 files for it, because people who made the chip, dont want it to be too easy.
[18:48] <wiiguy> i wouldn't know
[18:48] <heller\> or well, actually it makes it easy, but still!
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[18:48] <Getty> wiiguy: never amsterdam????
[18:48] <wiiguy> yeah but never those parts
[18:48] <Getty> if i got a good year of cashflow i go there minimum 4 times
[18:49] <Getty> i just love amsterdam
[18:49] <wiiguy> meh i used to live in den haag(the haugue) almost the same
[18:49] <Getty> i know den haag..................
[18:49] <Getty> that... is... a hell of a boring town
[18:50] <wiiguy> ok abck in the day then :p
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[19:28] <Ben_g> Hi
[19:28] <Ben_g> Does anyone know how I can use the RPIO module on a raspberry pi 2?
[19:29] <Ben_g> Running it gives this error: "SystemError: This module can only be run on a Raspberry Pi!"
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[19:32] <heller\> anyone tried these? ww.ebay.com/itm/391012308875
[19:33] <heller\> are they any good?
[19:33] <heller\> oops, www.ebay.com/itm/391012308875
[19:34] <heller\> they seem to be pretty easy to use
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[19:36] <Ben_g> Or is there any other easy way to control a servo than RPIO.PWM.servo()
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[20:37] <ankan^> Best tool of the day, cmus, terminal based mp3 player! Can have a playlist on repeat and just on/off reciever when i want some music.. morning routine and such <3
[20:39] <lapide_viridi> How is the new raspberry backwards compatible? Can I stick the old SD into the new model, or a new SD into the old pi? Or was it perhaps only raspbian?
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[20:56] <ankan^> Is there any tool i can use to stream all audio from my windows7 pc to the RPi ?
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[21:31] <Ben_g> lapide_viridi, iirc an SD card for the Raspberry Pi 2 works on the other Raspberries as well, but a card made for the older Raspberries will only work if it's very recent.
[21:32] <Ben_g> The images you can download on the official website should work on both models.
[21:33] <lapide_viridi> Ben_g, but once I've set it up on a rpi2, the OS is configured for the quadcore processor right? Can that work on a single core one withput tweaking?
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[21:35] <Ben_g> lapide_viridi, I found several tutorials online to update an SD card for a normal Raspberry Pi to work on a Raspberry Pi 2, and they claimed that it should still ne backwards compatible with the previous models.
[21:36] <Ben_g> But I can't really reccomend a tutorial since I screwed up with the one I followed.
[21:36] <lapide_viridi> Ben_g, heh, sorry to hear that.
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[21:37] <lapide_viridi> However, I don't think it'll be necessary for me. Just a question of interest.
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[21:38] <Ben_g> Well, I have enough backups (actually more than half of all storage I own is filled with backups), so I should be able to transfer everything eventually.
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[21:38] <lapide_viridi> Ben_g, yeah, I have a 2 TB HDD filled with test images.
[21:39] <lapide_viridi> Not actually 2 TB of images, but quite many. Compression takes too long.
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[21:51] <Jusii> lapide_viridi: pi 2 looks by default for kernel7.img for kernel as older models for kernel.img
[21:52] <Jusii> so yes, it's possible. You'll just need to provide modules for both in separate directories in sd
[21:52] <Jusii> so 2 kernels on /boot, one for each
[21:52] <lapide_viridi> Jusii, good to know, thanks.
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[22:09] <Zechs> damn it
[22:09] <Zechs> I don't have a screen
[22:10] <Zechs> and I can't make the ssh enable without mounting the prtition of pi
[22:10] <Zechs> when trying to mount the partition from SD card, i get errors
[22:10] <Zechs> any ideas?
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[22:15] <Zechs> lol
[22:15] <Zechs> it was the write-protect switch
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[22:39] <heller\> is there a way, without samba to ping/connect debian/raspbian from windows with a name rather than ip?
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[23:03] <paddy1966> hi
[23:04] <paddy1966> got new pi 2 going
[23:06] <klem> congrats
[23:07] <paddy1966> thanks I am very pleased !
[23:08] <Getty> so you darkened your appartment? ;-) #couldntresist
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[23:30] <paddy1966> when can I put windows 10 on my pi ?
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[23:46] <Getty> someone here with an ipad who is a bit bored to test something for me? (just browser stuff)
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