#raspbian IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-02-23

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[0:41] <teclo-> hi I've read this http://www.raspberrypi.org/web-browser-released/ ... I suppose that I need to upgrade to Debian jessie before doing aptitude install epiphany-browser ?
[0:53] <Neer-Do-Well> I would suppose so, doesn't the dist-upgrade do that? it is on the page
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[1:33] <AndrewG> I eventually got ZoL built and running on Raspberry Pi. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205488118995255&l=c24ddaf50c
[1:34] <AndrewG> Sadly, had to go back to a V1 B+, as I couldn't get it to build on the 3.18.7-v7 kernel which runs on the new 4-core Pi2.
[1:39] <Neer-Do-Well> cool
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[5:45] <shepax> Hi, im looking to connect 2 modules to a PI A+ both use the rx and tx one is a sim900 and the other is a gps NEO6MV2. how can i set both to work on the Pi? the idea is that one of them send data (sim900) and the other recive the location (GPS)
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[5:49] <shepax> Hi, im looking to connect 2 modules to a PI A+ both use the rx and tx one is a sim900 and the other is a gps NEO6MV2. how can i set both to work on the Pi? the idea is that one of them send data (sim900) and the other recive the location (GPS)
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[6:26] <saikarthik> any usb. image writer available for raspbian ?
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[6:26] <saikarthik> usb image witer for raspbian available ?
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[8:22] <devslash> does raspbian have a default firewall
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[9:01] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[9:07] * sydney blinks.
[9:07] <sydney> lordievader: Its 4 AM!
[9:08] <sydney> Im going back to sleep.
[9:09] <lordievader> There perhaps ;)
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[9:49] <curiousduder> o/
[9:56] <lordievader> o/
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[10:26] <arghya> my raspberry pi 2 model B not working with android
[10:28] <arghya> i have downloaded gingerbread+ethernet img file and write with win32diskimager on sd card. but after insert my sd to raspberry the red and green lights are on but not blinking
[10:28] <arghya> can anybody help me on this
[10:29] <arghya> ??
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[10:32] <arghya> my raspberry pi 2 model B not working with android. can anybody help me
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[10:45] <biomushroom> hi everyone
[10:45] <BOSIG> hi
[10:46] <biomushroom> I really need help with my raspi and wifi module
[10:46] <biomushroom> it behave really strange
[10:47] <biomushroom> I can navigate through internet, but cannot connect via ssh
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[10:48] <biomushroom> any suggestion?
[10:49] <BOSIG> i dont know sorry, im quite new to this
[10:49] <biomushroom> no prob... didn't find anything on google
[10:50] <biomushroom> 2 days stuggling on it
[10:50] <biomushroom> DX
[10:51] <ShorTie> is that ssh local or over internet ??
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[10:55] <facelessloser> Hi everyone could someone help me with changing the source of a package i want to install
[10:56] <biomushroom> local
[10:57] <biomushroom> @ShorTie local
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[10:58] <ShorTie> is ssh enabled in raspi-config ??
[10:59] <biomushroom> yep
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[10:59] <biomushroom> i neither see the lan without ethernet cable disconnected
[11:00] <biomushroom> and with ethernet plugged i can ssh
[11:00] <ShorTie> ??
[11:00] <biomushroom> i'm not mad... i'm trying to configure a wifi dongle
[11:00] <biomushroom> XD
[11:00] <ShorTie> oh, so it works with the network cable attched ??
[11:00] <biomushroom> yes
[11:01] <biomushroom> but what i need is raspi connected on my 3d printer without cables
[11:01] <ShorTie> eth0 and wifi will have different ip address
[11:01] <biomushroom> yes
[11:02] <biomushroom> Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface default 192.168.1.254 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 default * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 default * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 wlan0
[11:03] <biomushroom> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
[11:03] <biomushroom> default 192.168.1.254 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0
[11:04] <biomushroom> default * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
[11:04] <biomushroom> default * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 wlan0
[11:04] <ShorTie> sorry, 'IP routing table`s' are beyound my mental capacity, i use sumfin simple like wicd-cursers to manage eth0/wifi
[11:05] <biomushroom> kk
[11:05] <ShorTie> that stuff is like unreadable here, pastebin it so not floading
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[11:23] <swif> i suggest to paste traceroute to .tw xP
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[11:40] <curiousduder> what about the routing do you need to know>?
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[11:41] <curiousduder> your ifconfig list a sep. IP for your wlan0?
[11:41] <curiousduder> looks like an *
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[12:02] <WcktKlwn> I am having an issue with my Raspberry Pi running raspbian booting.. I hooked up a ttl and this is the output I get when it boots. http://pastebin.com/QsGkh658 .. any ideas?
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[12:12] <curiousduder> what do you have attached to the pi?
[12:13] <WcktKlwn> I have a USB wifi card and power
[12:13] <WcktKlwn> I have also tried without the wifi card
[12:13] <curiousduder> k, let me keep reading
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[12:18] <curiousduder> looks like it is cycling on the usb ports
[12:18] <curiousduder> is that the complete log?
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[12:19] <WcktKlwn> that's all I am able to get
[12:20] <curiousduder> is that base image + wifi ? or have you tried installing drivers?
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[12:21] <WcktKlwn> everything was working fine, I shut it down and next time I went to use it that's what I get
[12:23] <curiousduder> so, you installed the drivers, with wifi in... then restarted?
[12:23] <curiousduder> what power source are you running?
[12:25] <WcktKlwn> I didn't install anything.. everything was working fine.. powered off the device.. a few days later I turned it back on to nothing..
[12:25] <WcktKlwn> if anything all I did was a "apt-get upgrade"
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[12:27] <curiousduder> i am wondering if your sd card is having issues... or the image was corrupted some how after the upgrade?
[12:30] <curiousduder> you had a controlled reset... and didnt power cycle... right?
[12:30] <WcktKlwn> yeah, I ran the shutdown command and waited for all the lights to stop blinking and unplugged it.
[12:31] <WcktKlwn> I got a complete log, http://pastebin.com/9Fisg2jZ
[12:31] <curiousduder> let me check that out
[12:32] <WcktKlwn> I tried running fsck on the sd card and it appears to be clean
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[12:32] <zGrr> moin :)
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[12:38] <curiousduder> o/
[12:38] <curiousduder> have you tried booting without any device plugged into the usb ports?
[12:38] <WcktKlwn> curiousduder, that log is from only have the ttl in the board
[12:39] <twolife> does anyone know if the raspbian toolchain that default to armv6 can be used to build code for the rpi2 (armv7+neon) ? on x86 the toolchain default to i386 but can be used to build binaries for 686+mmx+sse , does it work like that with arm toolchain ? or should i use another toolchain specifically for armv7 ?
[12:40] <curiousduder> then, why is it still cycling with finding the usb 1-1.1: new high-speed USB device number 3 using dwc_otg?
[12:41] <WcktKlwn> there is nothing plugged in
[12:42] <curiousduder> thats what is confusing... it's like it is still reading it... look at this...
[12:42] <curiousduder> [    2.499027] dwc_otg bcm2708_usb: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
[12:45] <curiousduder> nm, that could just be the pi assigning the usb bus when booting... i might have been mistaken
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[12:47] <curiousduder> I think I might be at a loss as much as you WcktKlwn... the only issue I found is that the fs nulls... which could be just an issue with the sd card itself, or the image on the sd after your update...
[12:48] <curiousduder> if you arent vested to far in... i would suggest placing the rasbian image back on and booting without wifi, to ensure there isnt a hardware issue... but, google hasnt helped find a solution yet
[12:49] <WcktKlwn> curiousduder, it's not a hardware issue, I was able to boot another sd card just fine, I just didn't want to start all over on this, as I already have a few things setup the way I want. I was hoping it something simple
[12:51] <curiousduder> well... the next process in the boot cycle is eth0/wlan0 setup right?
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[12:51] <WcktKlwn> I haven't paid attention to the boot process, but I would assume that's the next step
[12:53] <curiousduder> its that and ALSA... which is your sound...
[12:54] <curiousduder> so i can only assume that during ur process... somehow.. some way... there was an issue that corrupted or interfered with one of those two processes... how long have you waited at that screen for the rpi to continue?
[12:54] <curiousduder> can you putty into the device from another device? assuming that you are able to use eth0 to connect to a router? (and there is link lights/activity on that port)
[12:55] <WcktKlwn> I didn't time it, but quite a while. I would say over 10 minutes
[12:55] <WcktKlwn> if it never setup the network, how is it possible to ssh in?
[12:56] <curiousduder> it could be a graphical hangup... just wondering... i am not there to see exactly what it is doing...
[12:56] <WcktKlwn> ttl is not graphical related
[12:56] <WcktKlwn> it's a serial console..
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[12:57] <curiousduder> i know... not a GUI... but the feed that you are viewing.. is what I am refering to
[12:57] <curiousduder> plug a cat5 into eth0 and see if it is active
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[13:03] <lordievader> WcktKlwn: From reading the backlog the problem is not very clear to me. Does it not start init?
[13:05] <WcktKlwn> lordievader, with a ttl hooked up, this is all I get when I try to boot it, http://pastebin.com/9Fisg2jZ
[13:05] <WcktKlwn> I don't see any services starting up or anything
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[13:08] <lordievader> I suppose ttl is serial? Is init set to output to the serial interface?
[13:08] <WcktKlwn> yeah
[13:08] <lordievader> WcktKlwn: On the first, second or both?
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[13:11] <WcktKlwn> I believe it's on both
[13:12] <lordievader> Because I would very well explain why you don't see init.
[13:12] <lordievader> WcktKlwn: Hook up a display, I'd say.
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[13:18] <curiousduder> bcm2708_i2c_init_pinmode(1,2) and bcm2708_i2c_init_pinmode(1,3) = ttl, baudrate is set to 100000.... should be 115200?
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[13:20] <curiousduder> My last guess.... that is the hangup... and should be when the serial connection starts to actually communicate with the board... everything before that is output only...
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[13:20] <WcktKlwn> lordievader, well.. future reference, running fsck on another computer is not good enough... it was saying the filesystem was dirty and needed to run fsck
[13:21] <lordievader> WcktKlwn: Fsck is fsck. Was it mounted when you unplugged it?
[13:22] <WcktKlwn> no
[13:22] <lordievader> Odd. Very odd.
[13:22] <WcktKlwn> entered my root password ran fsck and everything was fine, it's booting
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[13:24] <curiousduder> am i completely out in right field with my train of thought?
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[13:26] <lordievader> curiousduder: My interpretation is this: kernel does output to serial, init does not. Init hang on fsck check.
[13:26] <lordievader> But since you cannot see that you are pretty much screwed.
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[13:27] <curiousduder> but, connecting to hdmi port will negate that issue from the ttl? so boot without ttl and no usb devices... see what comes up? that is the next step?
[13:30] <lordievader> curiousduder: Err, what do you mean?
[13:34] <curiousduder> so, i assume that the ttl times out... or stops rcv after it "hangs". Using the hdmi should show a complete boot? it is a separate output.. so shouldnt have the same symptoms? ... I am trying to think this through...
[13:35] <curiousduder> because when WcktKlwn boots using ttl... the ttl is the last thing that shows on his "log" from putty...
[13:36] <curiousduder> it doesn't display anything past showing that the rpi reads the ttl and baudrate...
[13:36] <curiousduder> [ 7.101470] bcm2708_i2c bcm2708_i2c.1: BSC1 Controller at 0x20804000 (irq 79) (baudrate 100000)
[13:36] <curiousduder> [ 9.087204] EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p2): re-mounted. Opts: (null)
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[13:37] <curiousduder> Controller at 0x20804000 (irq 79) (baudrate 100000) = serial connection/ttl
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[13:37] <curiousduder> last process listed on the log...
[13:37] <curiousduder> baudrate 100000, should be equal to 115200... right?
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[13:39] <lordievader> curiousduder: No, it is more likely that init simply doesn't output to serial.
[13:39] <lordievader> By default it doesn't.
[13:39] <curiousduder> ok
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[13:39] <curiousduder> so, using the hdmi port... you 'should' be able to see the device boot completely?
[13:41] <lordievader> curiousduder: Yes, HDMI != serial.
[13:41] <curiousduder> ....
[13:42] <curiousduder> I assumed when he was connecting ttl, it was with the Adafruit USB/Serial
[13:42] <curiousduder> not with HDMI != serial
[13:42] <lordievader> He was, and thus he didn't get init.
[13:42] <lordievader> Or at least I think he was.
[13:43] <curiousduder> but, i also assumed that... he was using that the whole time.. not just recently...
[13:43] <curiousduder> guess I didnt ask enough questions... or got hung up on other things
[13:43] <hrm> hi
[13:43] <curiousduder> hi
[13:44] <hrm> im trying to put my usb wifi dongle in monitor mode but the default module seems to not accept it
[13:44] <hrm> its the 8211cu for a realtek dongle
[13:45] <lordievader> curiousduder: 23-14:12 < lordievader> WcktKlwn: Hook up a display, I'd say.
[13:45] <lordievader> curiousduder: ;)
[13:45] <curiousduder> lol, yea
[13:45] <hrm> can anyone help with this point ?
[13:45] <lordievader> hrm: Does it support monitor mode?
[13:45] <hrm> lordievader: not sure i understand your question
[13:45] <lordievader> hrm: Does the nic support monitor mode.
[13:46] <hrm> when i try to put my device in monitor mode via iwconfig its gave me an error message
[13:46] <lordievader> Not all cards support monitor mode.
[13:46] <hrm> lordievader: sincerelly i dont think about verifying this point
[13:46] <hrm> i guess its a driver/chipset point
[13:47] <hrm> lordievader: just a sec
[13:47] <lordievader> hrm: Could you pastebin the output of 'sudo iw list'?
[13:48] <diederik> curiousduder: in /boot/cmdline.txt move 'console=tty1' to the front of the list, at least before the 'console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200' part
[13:49] <diederik> then you'll see the startup of the services on your serial connection
[13:49] <hrm> lordievader: i cant connect to my rasp rignt now
[13:49] <hrm> lordievader: anyway i have its chipset : Chipset RTL8188CUS de Realtek
[13:50] <diederik> the msg I directed at curiousduder was actually for WcktKlwn
[13:51] <lordievader> hrm: Looking those things up on the internet is considerably more difficult than running iw list, iw info, whatever it was.
[13:51] <hrm> lordievader: i understand
[13:51] <hrm> perhaps you can tell me what i should look to in "iw list" result ?
[13:52] <hrm> lordievader: just a precision : 'iw' dont work with my dongle. i should use iwpriv
[13:52] <lordievader> hrm: Supported modes. If it supports monitor mode, you should be able to put it into that mode using iw too. If it supports master mode too, then you are in luck. You can play an AP :D
[13:53] <lordievader> hrm: ? Since when is iw picky about the nics...
[13:54] <hrm> lordievader: i'm just telling you what i see while trying to use my wifi dongle
[13:54] <lordievader> hrm: Could you pastebin that output?
[13:55] <hrm> i will paste it later when i will have access to ma rpi
[13:55] <hrm> s/ma/my
[13:56] <WcktKlwn> diederik, I'll try that out, thanks
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[14:03] <curiousduder> WcktKlwn... did you get it to work?
[14:03] <curiousduder> nm... he left
[14:03] <lordievader> curiousduder: Yes, from what I could make out.
[14:04] <curiousduder> so it was just init?
[14:06] <lordievader> It was init haning on the fsck check.
[14:06] <curiousduder> gotcha
[14:06] <curiousduder> good to know
[14:06] <lordievader> curiousduder: 23-14:20 #raspbian: < WcktKlwn> lordievader, well.. future reference, running fsck on another computer is not good enough... it was saying the filesystem was dirty and needed to run fsck
[14:07] <curiousduder> ah yea. i remember reading that
[14:07] <hrm> lordievader: from this url it seems that my card is supporting the monitor mode : https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers
[14:07] <hrm> lordievader: rtl8192cu
[14:11] <lordievader> hrm: Jup sure looks like it.
[14:13] <lordievader> hrm: Use something like this to put it in monitor mode: iw dev wlp0s29u1u2 set type monitor
[14:14] <hrm> lordievader: "wlp0s29u1u2" is the wifi interface name ? like iwlan0 for me ?
[14:15] <lordievader> Yes.
[14:15] <hrm> ok ill try it.
[14:15] <hrm> lordievader: thanks for your time and help
[14:16] <lordievader> hrm: No problem.
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[14:22] <hrm> lordievader: can you tell me if you already used aircrack-ng on a raspbian ?
[14:22] <hrm> lordievader: i have the rpi 2
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[14:24] <lordievader> Not on rasbian.
[14:24] <lordievader> I've ran hostapd on it, it's slow. (Old RPI B)
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[14:26] <hrm> ok
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[14:40] <Benberry> hello all
[14:40] <Benberry> :-)
[14:40] <curiousduder> o/
[14:40] <Benberry> quick question
[14:40] <Benberry> whn I throw my freshly installed raspian/oses on a microsd and have it all installed an updated from the internet on my b+
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[14:41] <Benberry> when I throw it into my B2,, I get the pretty pastal color screen
[14:41] <Benberry> but nothing happens
[14:42] <Benberry> any ideas?
[14:42] <curiousduder> first i have heard of this... lordievader?
[14:42] <curiousduder> lol
[14:42] <curiousduder> you do the upgrade on a different machine? before placing it in the rpi?
[14:43] <curiousduder> or you upgrade once in the rpi?
[14:45] <Benberry> uhhh
[14:45] <lordievader> Benberry: http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting
[14:45] <Benberry> I did it in a b+
[14:45] <ShorTie> Benberry, is this with berryboot ??
[14:45] <Benberry> and threw it into my new unused b2
[14:45] <Benberry> nope
[14:45] <Benberry> noobs and raspian
[14:45] <Benberry> my names just Ben :)
[14:46] <ShorTie> oh, well first suggestion i'd offer is just straight images and not noobs
[14:47] <ShorTie> did you upate noobs too ??
[14:48] <ShorTie> old noobs don't work on new rpi2's i believe
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[14:50] <Benberry> hmmm
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[14:50] <Benberry> you mean
[14:51] <Benberry> use a computer to throw raspian just onto an SD?
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[14:51] <curiousduder> good night all, have a good one
[14:51] <Benberry> nah I didn't update noobs
[14:51] <Benberry> but I just downloaded it to my server
[14:52] <Benberry> so when I get on my laptop in a minute (it has an sd reader)
[14:52] <Benberry> I can extract it there
[14:52] <Benberry> I'm excited... I'm gonna make a waterproof plastic ammox box for the top of my house
[14:52] <Benberry> that has an SDR radio for ADS-B transponders
[14:53] <Benberry> and a few cameras looking over the neighborhood all solar powered hopefully :)
[14:53] <Benberry> I just need to figure out some webcams I can interface easily
[14:54] <Benberry> and if I get real crazy I'm considering maybe just doing two, epoxying/silicone cocking a polycarbonate sphere cut in half to the outsides of the box and setting up little pan/tilt motors
[14:54] <Benberry> I just wanna get my pI2 up and running with tight vnc first :-/
[14:54] <Benberry> sorry for blabbing
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[15:03] <hanlon2> HI. I'm getting started with raspbian. It's setup and running here, and I'm figuring out the right upgrade/maintenance steps. When I try an apt-get upgrade, I get "The following packages have been kept back: linux-image-rpi-rpfv". There are a number of different update/upgrade steps I've found -- is the `apt-get upgrade` correct/safe? What do I need to do to not get this 'held back'?
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[15:23] <Getty> can someone explain to me, why people are so retarded?
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[15:54] <callumacrae> Getty: because smart people can't remember where they started off, so they just think people are stupid
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[15:57] <Getty> callumacrae: no... i was never that stupid, else i wouldnt be where i am by competence
[15:58] <Getty> i mean if those people block out knowledge, even if put in front of them, what we can do?
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[15:59] <callumacrae> be patient
[15:59] <Getty> for what? the people just go more retarded every day
[15:59] <callumacrae> they're different people
[15:59] <Getty> the more people come into the internet the more useless it is
[15:59] <Getty> a good example is reddit
[15:59] <Getty> the opinion on reddit these days is as horrible as in the rest of US
[16:00] <Getty> try to talk about guns or other topics that are madness in US and they just rip you apart
[16:00] <callumacrae> make a new internet and require an IQ test then
[16:00] <callumacrae> but until then we're stuck with this one
[16:00] <Getty> try to talk with poeple about israel or ukraine.....
[16:00] <Getty> noone gets it
[16:00] <callumacrae> we get it, you're smarter than everyone else
[16:00] <callumacrae> no need to be horrible about it
[16:00] <Getty> see, thats the problem
[16:01] <callumacrae> some people aren't as smart as you, and so it requires a bit more patience to explain stuff to them
[16:01] <Getty> if you would have now some misinformation
[16:01] <Getty> and i just want to correct you
[16:01] <Getty> you say "yeah yeah i get it you are smarter, blabla"
[16:01] <Getty> and suddenly the argument is gone
[16:01] <Getty> forever
[16:01] <Getty> and noone cares
[16:01] <Getty> i had this 234234234823 times
[16:01] <Getty> good example here: 50/50 quote of women in IT
[16:01] <Getty> there is no science for this, period. It doesnt exist. Noone has any science that says "we should have 50/50 rate of women in all jobs"
[16:01] <Getty> that just doesnt exist
[16:02] <Getty> but if i remind people of that, or put on information that shows this, then i am dismissed
[16:02] <shay_shay> this is off topic
[16:02] <callumacrae> the science says the more women the better, not 50/50, read an article a while back
[16:02] <Getty> callumacrae: Bill Nye says 50/50, just some days ago, on his twitter, i try to correct him, no chance ;)
[16:02] <Getty> shay_shay: are you dieing now cause of this? ;)
[16:03] <shay_shay> raspbian is "dying"
[16:03] <Getty> shay_shay: oh yeah ;) dying ;) do you have a problem i can help you with? ;) that makes your stay more enjoyable!
[16:03] <shay_shay> get on topic?
[16:03] <zGrr> raspbian is "maturing" :)
[16:04] <callumacrae> what with the condescending winks
[16:04] <callumacrae> s
[16:04] <Getty> shay_shay: i dont recall a no-offtopic rule yet
[16:04] <shay_shay> it's embedded in the fabric of IRC
[16:04] <Getty> LOL thats wrong
[16:04] <Getty> IRC is in its core very offtopic friendly
[16:05] <zGrr> anyway, it is hard to get your point, Getty
[16:05] <callumacrae> are you 14
[16:05] <callumacrae> or do you just like to act it
[16:05] <Getty> i am 16 years on IRC, might be ;)
[16:05] <callumacrae> that doesn't actually mean anything by the way
[16:05] <Getty> what is your problem? just because i am confused why most people are promoting wrong science i am now 14?
[16:06] <Getty> shoudl i just shut up and approve?
[16:06] <Getty> thats more mature?
[16:06] <callumacrae> no, because you're insulting people about it
[16:06] <shay_shay> actually it turns out you are violating freenodes rules: https://freenode.net/policy.shtml#offtopic
[16:06] <callumacrae> to be fair, the freenode definition of off topic is a little different
[16:06] <zGrr> all channels that implemented strict topic policy died out eventually.
[16:06] <Getty> shay_shay: i am missing the point in there that i am doing ;)
[16:07] <Getty> zGrr: EXACTLY! thanks!
[16:07] <shay_shay> it says no winky emoticons
[16:07] <shay_shay> i'm reading between the lines on that one
[16:07] <callumacrae> You talk so european it hurts
[16:07] <Getty> ........ ;)
[16:07] <callumacrae> I'm guessing netherlands?
[16:08] <shay_shay> who?
[16:08] <Getty> callumacrae: now we get out the racist element? and no, not netherlands
[16:08] <callumacrae> getty
[16:08] <shay_shay> oh
[16:08] <callumacrae> I'm not being racist, I'm talking first-language-not-english :)
[16:08] <Getty> yeah but isnt that obvious? ;)
[16:08] <Getty> dont you see them all day?
[16:09] <callumacrae> anyway, im going back to work
[16:09] <callumacrae> have fun with your negativity
[16:09] <callumacrae> i hope your day is as pleasant as you are
[16:09] <Getty> i forgot american mentality of "ignore problems, just be nice" ;)
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[16:10] <callumacrae> Now who's being racist
[16:10] <zGrr> :)
[16:10] <callumacrae> I'm about as american as you are
[16:10] <zGrr> american, or dutch or european is not a race
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[16:11] <shay_shay> why not
[16:11] <callumacrae> xenophobic then
[16:12] <shay_shay> we u.s.americans have a distinct blend
[16:12] <Getty> well, you call my pointing to the problems a negativity, so does that now mean you want to fix the problem or does it mean you would prefer that no negativity so ignoring it? ;)
[16:12] <zGrr> by the way, why president Obama is being called black? he is no more black than white.
[16:12] <shay_shay> no idea
[16:13] <Getty> zGrr: lol :)
[16:13] <shay_shay> i guess it can be traced back to the time when slavery was legal, and there was a "one drop" law
[16:14] <shay_shay> one drop of black and they were not supposed to be free
[16:14] <shay_shay> so a very faint amount of that culture remains somehow
[16:14] <shay_shay> it sounds hard to believe but thats what historians think
[16:15] <zGrr> in brazil nobody would call him black, he would be called mulatto, which would be regarded racist in the us
[16:15] <shay_shay> yeah kinda ironic
[16:16] <shay_shay> its a double standard but i've also heard it leans that direction because its 3rd wave racism to ignore race
[16:16] <zGrr> they don't even call white people white, but caucassian. they probably have never seen real caucassian people.
[16:16] <shay_shay> and its impossible to be racist against white people because racism is a systemic thing
[16:16] <zGrr> it can be
[16:17] <zGrr> some asian cultures are far more racist than european.
[16:17] <shay_shay> racism is global
[16:18] <zGrr> I have a friend both parents white, he was raised by the japanese family in japan from the age of five
[16:18] <zGrr> he knows a lot about racism.
[16:19] <shay_shay> my wife is filipina so i am aware of the asian racism
[16:19] <shay_shay> the weird thing is the native filipinos are black like aboriginals
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[16:19] <shay_shay> but the europeans and chinese mixed with them
[16:19] <shay_shay> now the city dwellers are light skinned
[16:19] <shay_shay> and they are racist against dark skinned people
[16:19] <shay_shay> thats why they like to marry whites
[16:19] <shay_shay> lol
[16:20] <shay_shay> it doesnt make any sense
[16:21] <shay_shay> aboriginal filipinos (generically related to australian aboriginals) http://www.jdrmissionpartners.org/pics/Aeta12.jpg
[16:21] <shay_shay> genetically
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[16:23] <shay_shay> my point is, things like racial mixing are a racial identity, not the lacktherof
[16:23] <zGrr> like chukchi racism against evenka (or the other way round) seems weird if you don't know their cultures.
[16:26] <shay_shay> ok i gtg to work
[16:26] <Getty> if we are at it: django "political correct" renaming of master/slave ;)
[16:26] <Getty> huehue
[16:27] <zGrr> Whatever. The world seems to be gradually improving.
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[16:29] <Getty> zGrr: its a 2 way thing happening, thats what i see, we do get wiser and wiser, but there are some groups getting dumber and dumber
[16:30] <Getty> zGrr: i am very confused why those extreme christianity is going more extreme in america, i know it was "bad" before, but the last years are really putting things more horrible
[16:30] <zGrr> I don't think so. It might be that dumb people were given far more voice than they used to enjoy
[16:32] <Getty> zGrr: MIGHT BE! i hope i am wrong, and you are right, but we should put our ears on aware
[16:32] <zGrr> christianity used to be far more extremist in old days. it was more like islamic state these days.
[16:32] <Getty> zGrr: it could be that their bigger voice actually really created more movement, just to point out another possible reasoning
[16:36] <Getty> zGrr: the evil part is that the bull comes over the ocean these days, in berlin we have the first outbreak cause of anti-vaccine idiots
[16:37] <Getty> zGrr: this anti vaccine stuff was NEVER a topic in germany, not since i remember something like that happened here, its shocking
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[16:37] <zGrr> it is just a minor setback on the way to progress. general trend doesn't seem to start reverting.
[16:38] <Getty> zGrr: thanks for giving me hope ;)
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[17:06] <littlebit> hello people, I have recently stumbled upon the banana pi router: http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/product/1290219/Banana-Pi-Router-1-GB-ohne-Betriebssystem/?ref=detview1&rt=detview1&rb=1 and according to the description (german speaking users can confirm that) it comes without an OS installed. My question: Is that router compatible with rasbian pi?
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[17:20] <Getty> littlebit: they have clones of all the raspberry things for the banana pi, also a raspbian
[17:20] <Getty> littlebit: but seriously: that thing isnt worth it, you are driving into an unsupported hell, the company is NOT part of the community they just consume from it
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[17:23] <littlebit> Getty: well kinda true, if was excited to see that the rasberry pi came out with a quad core solution yet I miss a router variant of the rasberry pi. From the pcb layout and everything.
[17:23] <Getty> littlebit: i bought a banana pi, its just decoration now
[17:24] <littlebit> why is that so? What is it that makes it so unpopular in your eyes?
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[17:25] <Getty> ==> you are driving into an unsupported hell, the company is NOT part of the community they just consume from it
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[17:25] <Getty> trust me, you are like sitting on an island
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[17:58] <Gamoder_> Yeah, and btw it's similar with odroid - I bought a C1 a few months ago since it was advertised as better RPi, but freezes every two days and has no CEC so is kinda useless
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[18:08] <hrm> lordievader: still there ?
[18:09] <hrm> still here ?
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[18:13] <lordievader> hrm: For a little bit, yes.
[18:13] <hrm> lordievader: i am on my rap right now
[18:14] <hrm> lordievader: here is the result of the iw list command : nl80211 not found.
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[18:15] <hrm> lordievader: i am currently using the 8192cu module : have it with lsmod command
[18:16] <hrm> lordievader: lsusb give me this : Bus 001 Device 050: ID 0bda:8176 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188CUS 802.11n WLAN Adapter
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[18:16] <hrm> lordievader: any idea ?
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[18:18] <lordievader> hrm: Sounds like the kernel is missing stuff... Which is surprising for Debian. Anyhow: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?&t=18745
[18:18] <hrm> when i have installed the dongle its come up automatically
[18:18] <hrm> lordievader: Linux raspberrypi 3.18.7-v7+ #755 SMP PREEMPT Thu Feb 12 17:20:48 GMT 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux
[18:19] <hrm> lordievader: i have also installed firmware-realtek package
[18:20] <lordievader> hrm: What does "zgrep 80211 /proc/config.gz" return?
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[18:21] <hrm> lordievader: http://paste.debian.net/155844/
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[18:23] <lordievader> hrm: How about "lsmod|grep 80211"?
[18:24] <Getty> isnt it 90211? ;-)
[18:24] <Getty> oh! 90210.... yeah.... i should have proper remembered
[18:24] <hrm> lordievader: nothing
[18:25] <hrm> lordievader: i only have the 8192cu module driver loaded
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[18:26] <lordievader> hrm: Can you configure the nic through iwconfig?
[18:27] <hrm> lordievader: yes but can't enable monitor mode
[18:27] <hrm> lordievader: iwconfig wlan0 mode Monitor
[18:27] <hrm> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) : SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
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[18:27] <lordievader> hrm: Did you shutdown the interface first?
[18:28] <hrm> lordievader: yes with iwconfig wlan0 down
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[18:29] <lordievader> hrm: What is the output of 'ip link'?
[18:29] <swif> hey guys ! any tool for benchmark sdcard in raspbian ?
[18:29] <hrm> lordievader: wlan0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state DOWN mode DEFAULT qlen 1000
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[18:32] <lordievader> hrm: Ah "It seems that RTL8188CUS does not use nl80211 and iw works only with nl80211 adapters" https://github.com/oblique/create_ap/issues/43
[18:33] <lordievader> Anyhow I need to go, do you have time tommorow, hrm?
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[18:33] <hrm> lordievader: yes but only at this time ....
[18:33] <lordievader> Ah, Wednesday?
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[18:34] <hrm> lordievader: i'll try to have remote access to my rpi tomorrow
[18:35] <hrm> lordievader: anyway thxs for your help/time
[18:37] <hrm> lordievader: perhaps i should buy another atheros based wifi dongle
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[18:45] <GeekDude> Why is the raspbian image 3gb? Isn't that kind of overly large?
[18:45] <GeekDude> I mean, I know there's a lot of stuff on there, but come on, 3gb?
[18:45] <Getty> yes its wolfram
[18:46] <Getty> never forget that raspberry foundation is not like just there for promoting opensource, they are there for promoting themself, the technology, so they like to spice with those commercial tools they are allowed to spread for free
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[18:49] <Peio> GeekDude the foundation image is an educational distro, there are lots of alternative images if you don't need all that stuff
[18:50] <GeekDude> I suppose I could just put straight debian on it, right?
[18:50] <Getty> "educational", also a way to put it ;)
[18:50] <Peio> yes
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[18:57] <taza> GeekDude: There's a Raspbian installer too
[18:57] <taza> The image is a full OS, the installer is... what you'd expect
[18:57] <GeekDude> raspbian installer? Can't I just flash the img to the sd card like a normal person?
[18:58] <taza> You CAN, but that brings extra packages
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[19:01] <Getty> geekdude: my image is more minimalistic and auto resizes on first boot ;) https://vonbienenstock.de/hiveberry/
[19:01] <GeekDude> I do love me some samb
[19:01] <GeekDude> samba
[19:02] <Getty> well just start it again ;)
[19:02] <GeekDude> Might I ask what the point of having a default private key if you share the private key publicly?
[19:02] <Getty> i just deactivated it by default
[19:02] <Getty> geekdude: the public key is installed, you need the private key to access it if you dont want to use the password login
[19:02] <Getty> geekdude. this way you can install stuff directly from another machien without having to setup keys first
[19:03] <Getty> geekdude: much better for mass installation
[19:03] <GeekDude> Insecure, but automatic?
[19:03] <Getty> "insecure", dude, the image coms with a fixed username/password always ;)
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[19:03] <Getty> just adding a fixed key is not changing any security level
[19:03] <Getty> its the same security level as before
[19:04] <Peio> what's the point of a raspbian image with MORE stuff installed ?
[19:04] <Getty> Peio: ?
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[19:04] <Getty> Peio: its not more?
[19:04] <Peio> It includes many extra packages installed by default
[19:04] <Getty> Peio: under the lines its smaller, with just removing wolfram and scratch ;)
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[19:05] <Getty> ok i might be a bit at the same size after i added a bit more, i never checked, just wanted to stay under 3GB, but you can release tons of space by just deleteing /opt/perl ;)
[19:05] <Getty> whatever, just wanted to drop it in, i was annoyed by all this "hand work" everytime
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[19:06] <GeekDude> how big is perl?
[19:06] <Getty> ther eis a lot of installed modules, you can just delete /opt/perl and remove the references in .bashrc
[19:07] <Getty> and you will gain 1 GB or so i think
[19:07] <vagrantc> perl is not usually installed in /opt on debian-based systems...
[19:07] <Getty> vagrantc: you dont violate the existing perl if you install another one
[19:07] <Getty> vagrantc: its very stupid to install by hand a perl at the position of the distribution
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[19:08] <Peio> I don't understand the point of using an image customized by someone else
[19:08] <Peio> surely if I want samba I can type one command and install it myself
[19:08] <Getty> Peio: ????? well its a personal chocie
[19:08] <Getty> if someone did what i need, i use it.... why not?
[19:08] * vagrantc wonders why you'd want to install a non-packaged perl
[19:09] <Getty> there is no logic in your sentence generally removing the possibility that someone not takes the "brand images".... whats the point?
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[19:09] <Getty> vagrantc: cause i am a perl developer and wnat to be on the edge?
[19:09] <Getty> vagrantc: let me guess, you are no perl developer and just throw in general statements without any grounds, right?
[19:10] <Getty> vagrantc: please... just stop it
[19:10] <vagrantc> i did admittedly just join the channel
[19:10] <Peio> breaking news, only perl devs are allowed to talk in #raspbian
[19:10] <Getty> Peio: WHAT?!
[19:10] <vagrantc> so maye theres a lot of background i'm missing
[19:10] <Getty> Peio: Where i said this? are you stupid?
[19:10] <Getty> Peio: * vagrantc wonders why you'd want to install a non-packaged perl <===========
[19:10] <Peio> you pretty much just did
[19:10] <Getty> Peio: no i didnt
[19:10] <Getty> Peio: i commented his sentence
[19:10] <Getty> Peio: which was about perl
[19:11] <vagrantc> but i do often see people recommending installing stuff in all manner of ways that cause difficulty that the debian packaging and policy are meant to address
[19:11] <Peio> stop highlighting me at every sentence thanks
[19:11] <Getty> Peio: where i can say: "hey please dont m ake a statement about how to use perl if youa re not a perl developer"
[19:11] <Getty> Peio: then stop saying shit about what you interpret in my sentences without understanding them, thanks
[19:11] <Peio> and now we're back to "why would someone use an image customized for a very specific usage"
[19:11] <Getty> vagrantc: its a decision case by case, if there would be the ultimative computer we would use it, i dont get the point of saying "there must be only one way and if you dont do that you are awkward"
[19:12] <Getty> Peio: cause he might be exactly having the specific usage case?!?!?!?!??!!
[19:12] <Peio> stop
[19:12] <vagrantc> i didn't say there were no valid use-cases, but in my experience, it's usually better to stick to the packaging system
[19:12] <Peio> highlighting me
[19:12] <Peio> for fucks sake
[19:12] <Getty> Peio: Stop talking general sentences
[19:12] <Peio> go fuck yourself
[19:12] <Getty> that are just not true for everybody
[19:12] <Getty> no
[19:12] <vagrantc> keep it civil, folks.
[19:12] <Getty> vagrantc: well, you are making statements without knowing the cases of the world
[19:12] <Peio> i'll be civil when he stops highlighting me with every single line
[19:13] <Getty> vagrantc: if you are not a perl developer who knows the differences of the perlv ersions, why you can make a statement about it?
[19:13] <Getty> vagrantc: makes no sense
[19:13] <vagrantc> Getty: i never said it was always wrong, i did genuinely wonder what the use case was.
[19:13] <Getty> vagrantc: perl developers prefer the latest Perl, out of many reasons, very intense developing happening, big % of performance every year
[19:14] <Getty> vagrantc: "end products" projects are often totally relying on modern perl features (rarly CPAN modules do)
[19:14] <Peio> so why did you suggest that image to GeekDude in the first place ?
[19:14] <vagrantc> Getty: i made a statement that it was not usualy installed there, and then wondered why you would install it without a packaging system...
[19:14] <Peio> did he ever say anything about perl dev ?
[19:14] <vagrantc> Getty: i think you're interpreting some hostility that isn't really there
[19:15] <Getty> Peio: just cause he was annoyed about the state of the image, and that he wasnt able to just drop something in which with the key would be easy, i mean he didnt had to resize by hand and he can deinstall witha script pretty fast what he doesnt need additionally
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[19:15] <Getty> just saying, i was trying to suggest something for him that he might like, you attacked that, starting the hostile action without reasoning
[19:15] <Peio> he was saying the foundation image is too big and you recommend an image just as big, full of stuff that is useless for most people
[19:15] <Peio> makes absolutely no sense
[19:15] <vagrantc> i'm not particularly interested in why an individual would want to hand-install perl, just making sure that someone isn't directing a novice to do something that's generally a lot of trouble for little gain
[19:16] <Getty> vagrantc: its a general knowledge that the compelte world is not just driving on "distribution packages"
[19:16] <Getty> some people in the world are actually using latest features, and need them for their project, those people often install by source whatever they need
[19:16] <vagrantc> yes, that's true.
[19:16] <Getty> that is everywhere, in every language, every software project, generally, totally, period
[19:17] <Getty> so now go back to your statement
[19:17] <Peio> does that image get updated every time perl is updated ?
[19:17] <Getty> and understand why i see it as stupid ;)
[19:17] <vagrantc> Getty: i don't really follow your logic, and think i clearly stepped into the conversation where there was already some ambient hostility...
[19:17] <Getty> Peio: It doesnt need to, i will make new versions from time to time, but the people dont need it that much in the flow, something upwards is relevant mostly
[19:18] <Getty> Peio: but you, as someone who dont care about perl at all, as it clearly is obvious, why you ask? just curious, wanna be showing hostile attitude by concept?
[19:18] <Peio> i'm just telling you that it's dumb to suggest that image to someone who thinks the foundation image is too big
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[19:18] <Peio> that's my entire point in one line, let's see if you can understand
[19:18] <Getty> vagrantc: look... there is never "no reason" to install something from the latest version, so "wonder" why someone have it, is pretty awkward ;) thats all
[19:19] <Getty> Peio: yeah still i give him an alternative that can eliminate the problem by first time easy process
[19:19] <GeekDude> uhh, can someone say flame war? vagrantc: I was asking why raspbian was 3gb in size, and he mentioned a smaller image. I can't say I'm actually going to use the image, but it did spark discussion on which things take up the most space on an install
[19:19] <Getty> Peio: let see if you finally get that
[19:19] <Peio> it's not smaller from what he said
[19:19] <Getty> its easier to make smaller
[19:20] <Getty> without doing anything big by hand
[19:20] <Peio> it's even easier to just get a minimal image
[19:20] <Peio> instead of a bloated one
[19:20] <vagrantc> GeekDude: if you want a small image, i think the recommendation is raspbian-ua-netinst, and you install only a base system and whatever you want.
[19:20] <Getty> you suggested the builder only, which was again putting up a problem by hin
[19:20] <Getty> him
[19:20] <GeekDude> I must say that any conversation useful to me has ceased going on, and I think I might be leaving so I can work on my projects. Thanks for the help everyone!
[19:20] <Getty> and there i suggested mine, and now vagrantc suggested somethng even better :)
[19:20] <vagrantc> GeekDude: but yes, the flaming nature of this situation is tiresome
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[19:21] <Peio> the netinstaller doesn't work on pi 2 yet :(
[19:21] <vagrantc> oh
[19:21] <vagrantc> ah well
[19:21] * vagrantc missed too much context
[19:21] <vagrantc> anyways, hello all!
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[19:52] <pad_> hi
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[20:01] <klem> hello
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[20:12] <shing> i'm trying to make crda but getting error /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lnl-genl
[20:13] <shing> can someone help me understand this? when i run ldconfig -p | grep libnl i see several entries
[20:14] <shing> http://pastebin.com/09J97wd3
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[21:17] <burkmat> shing: If you can, try running ld with --verbose. Should show what it's trying to find. Might be as easy as symlinking to one of the libs you found.
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[22:06] <lordievader> hrm: ping
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[22:15] <facelessloser> hi all Im having trouble getting my wifi usb dongle to work on my raspberry pi its the rt5390
[22:17] <lordievader> hrm: Whoo, capitalization matters appearently: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/8578/enable-monitor-mode-in-rtl8188cus-realtek-wifi-usb-dongle
[22:17] <lordievader> hrm: Use sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode Monitor
[22:17] <lordievader> facelessloser: Could you provide more details?
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[22:18] <facelessloser> lordievader, its weird because ive got 2 wifi dongles and there both rt5390 but only one will work out of the box on the pi
[22:19] <facelessloser> lordievader, the latest one wont show up under the wifi setup gui app
[22:19] <lordievader> facelessloser: Does udev see it when you plug it in?
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[22:21] <facelessloser> lordievader, how do i find that out?
[22:22] <lordievader> facelessloser: Unplug the nic, open a terminal, run "sudo udevadm monitor --environment --udev", plug nic in.
[22:22] <facelessloser> no it doesnt see it
[22:23] <lordievader> facelessloser: Does the nic work in other pc's?
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[22:23] <facelessloser> no tryed it on this laptop running ubuntu
[22:24] <facelessloser> my bad it does show up on the pi
[22:26] <lordievader> facelessloser: Now I am confused. Does it work on the pi?
[22:27] <facelessloser> it shows up on the pi when i plug it in after running that command
[22:28] <lordievader> facelessloser: Ok, does 'ip link' see it?
[22:30] <facelessloser> lordievader, ip link show?
[22:30] <lordievader> facelessloser: Could you pastebin the output of that command?
[22:32] <facelessloser> lordievader, http://pastebin.com/jBqXYSP9
[22:32] <lordievader> It is detected just fine ;)
[22:33] <lordievader> NetworkManager should be able to use it.
[22:33] <facelessloser> ive got 2 dongles connected. the one that works and the one that doesnt
[22:34] <facelessloser> could it be picking up the one that works in that last command
[22:34] <lordievader> Ah, yes. I was under the impression that there was only one.
[22:34] <facelessloser> lordievader, sorry im ssh into it
[22:34] <lordievader> Unplug both, plug in the questionable one. And run 'ip link' again.
[22:35] <facelessloser> ok give me sec
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[22:39] <facelessloser> lordievader, ran the command with nothing installed then ran it again with the broken one pluged in and it spits out the same
[22:39] <lordievader> facelessloser: Also in the ON state?
[22:40] <facelessloser> on state?
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[22:44] <facelessloser> lordievader, on state?
[22:45] <facelessloser> lordievader, thanks for your help. will investigate in the morning, im off to bed
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