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IRC Log for 2015-02-27

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[0:14] <jt_> could someone please tell me why their are options in raspi-config that are missing i tried everything i could think of (update - upgrade - reboot -google) ???
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[0:20] <jt_> anyone?
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[0:31] <kronnn> I'm having issues mounting a exfat usb drive to my pi2.
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[0:32] <kronnn> UUID=942A-5516 /media/usbhdd exfat uid=pi,gid=pi 0 0 - does this look right?
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[1:13] <advx_> Hello All Good Morning
[1:19] <kronnn> hello
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[1:23] <diederik> kronnn: I don't know whether exfat is supported at all, but the UUID can't be correct (it's not universially unique)
[1:24] <kronnn> hmm, so if I was to just use the location /dev/sda1 instead of the UUID?
[1:25] <diederik> that would have a better chance of success
[1:26] <kronnn> .. /dev/sda1 /media/usbhdd exfat-fuse pi,pi 0 0 -nope
[1:26] <diederik> 'nope' doesn't give much to go on ;-)
[1:27] <kronnn> haha, i'm so new to this i suck so bad.. ok let me see
[1:27] <diederik> are you trying to mount it manually?
[1:28] <kronnn> no, trying to have it boot on start from /etc/fstab
[1:29] <diederik> makes sense. But before you do that, I suggest you get it to mount manually first and then work your way towards putting it in /etc/fstab
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[1:33] <kronnn> it mounts manually now, just can't get the fstab correct. ;/
[1:34] <diederik> 'cat /proc/mounts' may help
[1:37] <kronnn> hmmm.. fuseblk.. ok
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[1:53] <jc> can someone please tell me why raspi-config options are messing - did everything but still options missing (updated, upgraded, reinstalled, rebooted, googled) ughhh please help
[1:55] <diederik> what options are missing?
[1:56] <jc> the enable camera and number 1
[1:56] <diederik> I don't know much about raspi-config (don't use it), but your question/problem seems to vague to me for anyone to be able to help
[1:57] <diederik> number 1 = expand filesystem?
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[1:58] <jc> option 1 gone and option 5 gone .....thanks for tryn to help diederik,
[1:59] <diederik> regarding camera: Try adding "start_x=1" and "gpu_mem=128" to /boot/config.txt (that's what enable camera did some time ago, dunno if that has changed)
[2:00] <jc> ill give er a shot thanks
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[2:23] <jc> nothing - camera isnt detcted any more
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[2:23] <diederik> and it was before?
[2:23] <diederik> it could be that that config option is no longer needed because of the Device Tree functionality
[2:23] <jc> it said use raspi-config to enable camera -but that option was gone
[2:24] <diederik> 'it said' <- what is 'it'?
[2:25] <jc> when i tried to take a pic the Cli said "enable camera in raspi-config"
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[2:28] <diederik> have you tried asking on the forum?
[2:29] <diederik> another option could be to open an issue on https://github.com/asb/raspi-config/issues
[2:30] <jc> no but ill have to do so - gotta go to work thank you so much 4 the help :)
[2:31] <jc> take care thanks
[2:31] <diederik> good luck
[2:31] <jc> :) thanks
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[2:36] <advx_> bye 4 now...
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[3:16] <kronnn> hello again..
[3:17] <plugwash> hi
[3:18] <kronnn> really stuck trying to mount this usbhdd from /etc/fstab, nothing seems to take and the logs mention the drive isn't ready.
[3:18] <kronnn> is there a way to delay the fstab mount?
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[3:38] <diederik> maybe this is a solution: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=100846
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[4:03] <diederik> \o/
[4:11] <plugwash> what are you celebrating?
[4:12] <diederik> that I've just successfully build an installer with .cpio and the kernel for both RPi1 and RPi2 with the proper config.txt
[4:13] <diederik> So it looks like I mainly need to make some adjustments to /etc/init.d/rcS script and then I can begin testing
[4:15] <diederik> the kernel-upgrade-script will be rather crude and only work properly during install though.
[4:15] <diederik> But I'll make it external so that it can be updated separately
[4:17] <diederik> were you notified of the raspbian-tools repo creation?
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[4:31] <plugwash> yeah, github seems to be sending me quite a few mails about it :/
[4:37] <diederik> that's probably because you're the owner of debian-pi and it looks like you're automatically watching it then (you can unwatch if you like)
[4:44] * plugwash wonders if we should package the kernel update hook script
[4:45] <plugwash> so that it is possible to update it on existing installs
[4:45] <diederik> that is the idea that I/we had in mind
[4:46] <diederik> moving the kernel-update-script out of the installer and into the raspbian-tools repo and (in time) provide a deb package from that repo
[4:49] <diederik> and when that package exists, it becomes a dependency for the installer. But it can also be used for what you just described
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[6:26] <du5tball> good morning. i have two raspberries, both with raspbian, running "risevision" (a digital signage system). now, one of those shows the correct time, the other one has a slew of 7 minutes, both are in separate subnets
[6:26] <du5tball> i already tried to re-pull from the ntp server and set the time via date and the epoch time manually, however after a reboot the slew was back
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[7:21] <zGrr> moin :)
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[9:12] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[10:25] <donbruno> hello, do you know a goog guide to crosspompile? I compile the znc 1.6 by a linux machine and then copy it to the pi
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[10:29] <lordievader> donbruno: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi_Cross_building
[10:30] <lordievader> donbruno: Also chrooting an rpi image is fun: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-954494-start-0.html
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[10:36] <lordievader> donbruno: Also http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/?part=1&chap=5
[10:37] <donbruno> ok. i have found an other side... I will show your side... thx
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[10:52] <donbruno> http://wiki.znc.in/Installation#Raspberry_Pi_.28cross-compilation.29
[10:52] <donbruno> this is my guide
[10:52] <donbruno> and now : fatal error: unicode/ucnv.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
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[11:35] <Getty> donbruno: i cant anything to the specific problem but i am very confused why they suggest this fuse ssh thing ;) you should first try that all with a local mounted thing (like just mounting the sd card or copying its content) and chroot
[11:35] <Getty> oh damn he is just gone......
[11:35] <Getty> <facepalm>
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[11:56] <littlebit> hi people, I'm trying to install raspbian on to my 32GB sdcard with the help of these instructions: http://raspberrypiguide.de/
[11:56] <littlebit> The link is in german but what it basically says is that you should format the card (mkfs.vrat /dev/sdc1) and then, dd bs=1M if=/path/to/img/file of=/dev/sdc1 && sync
[11:56] <littlebit> everything went fine, but when I insert it into my rasberrypi and give it power, I only have red and green leds on and that is it. can someone tell me what am I doing wrong?
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[11:58] <ShorTie> mkfs.vrat ??
[11:59] <ShorTie> if your using windows maybe try sdformatter
[11:59] <ShorTie> think the barrier is >32gig for a special format
[12:01] <littlebit> ShorTie: I don't user windows in general and since I have a 32GB sdcard and after formating it, it shows me 31. something GB is in that barrier
[12:02] <ShorTie> well you might be running into the 1000/1024 thing most likely
[12:03] <ShorTie> oops, oh ya, of=/dev/sdc1 is not correct either
[12:03] <ShorTie> you do not want to write to a partition
[12:04] <ShorTie> you want to write to a device, so it's of=/dev/sdc
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[12:23] <dexta> afternoon
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[12:35] <ac_desktop> hello
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[12:37] <ac_desktop> I'm new to raspberry pi and raspbian and I have a few questions
[12:38] <ac_desktop> why don't I see any linux package in aptitude ? why are there only firmwares in the kernel section ?
[12:39] <ac_desktop> how are the sources.list organised ? I see three different repos in three different *.list files, what do they provide ?
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[12:52] <ShorTie> they provide a list to the need files maybe ??
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[12:52] <ShorTie> not sure what cha mean by 'there only firmwares in the kernel section' ??
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[12:53] <ac_desktop> ShorTie: I don't see any linux-image-something package
[12:54] <ShorTie> whelp, depending on the bootloader your using, you really don't want to mess with linux-images i believe
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[12:54] <ac_desktop> ShorTie: and for the repos I would like to know which ones are necessary and which ones are not
[12:55] <ShorTie> sortta depends on what all you want i guess
[12:57] <ShorTie> what cha trying to do if i can ask ??
[12:58] <ac_desktop> ShorTie: the purpose here is to flash coreboot on an SPI chip using flashrom
[12:58] <ac_desktop> so I've already removed all graphical and most nonfree stuff on the raspi
[12:59] <ShorTie> sorry, that is all beyound my metal capacity so i'll sit back and watch
[12:59] <ac_desktop> the only nonfree package I've kept being the realtek firmware
[12:59] <ac_desktop> because I need it for ssh access, obviously
[13:00] <ShorTie> oh, so your trying to strip down raspbian ??
[13:01] <ShorTie> might be better to build up to what you need with net-install or some other way
[13:01] <ac_desktop> ShorTie: yes. I will probably disable some unnecessary services as well
[13:03] <ShorTie> sounding more like doing a form of netinstall would be better for you, then trying to strip down raspbian
[13:04] <ac_desktop> ShorTie: I guess it would take approximately the same time
[13:05] <ac_desktop> besides, I have order a raspbian card along with the device, so...
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[13:05] <ac_desktop> and I haven't ordered any hdmi cable /o\
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[13:06] <mrzk> hello everyone
[13:06] <mrzk> does anybody here knows how to make egalax USB touch works under raspbian?
[13:06] <ShorTie> is this a compute module or a regular raspberry pi ??
[13:06] <ac_desktop> ShorTie: so you don't know what the repos in sources.list.d/* are providing ?
[13:07] <ac_desktop> ShorTie: regular raspi, B+ model
[13:07] <ShorTie> there basicall only 2 sources.list there
[13:07] <ac_desktop> woops
[13:07] <ShorTie> not sure you can boot from SPI on a regular pi
[13:08] <ShorTie> firmware not setup for it
[13:09] <ac_desktop> ShorTie: what does the collabora repo provide ? what is the difference between mirrordirector.raspberrypi.org and archive.raspberrypi.org ?
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[13:10] <ShorTie> go grab the Packages list from them and compare, not sure right off the top of my head
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[13:11] <ShorTie> you know the firmware only allows booting from a fat partition of the sdcard right ??
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[13:14] <ac_desktop> ShorTie: https://github.com/bibanon/Coreboot-ThinkPads/wiki/Hardware-Flashing-with-Raspberry-Pi
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[13:15] <littlebit> hi, I got disconnected. I want to write onto the device
[13:16] <ShorTie> oh, me bad, your just trying to use the pi as a device to flash sumfin else
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[13:17] <ShorTie> in that case, none of those sources.list are any good for you i believe
[13:17] <ac_desktop> ShorTie: apparently collabora provides only wayland stuff
[13:18] <ShorTie> do believe so
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[13:18] <ShorTie> but like i said, none of those sources.list places are of any value too you
[13:19] <ShorTie> they are only good for the pi
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[13:23] <ac_desktop> ShorTie: all I need is an up-to-date distro, on which I can compile and run flashrom
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[13:39] <ShorTie> oh, well the apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade should furnish that for you
[13:39] <ShorTie> that is how you update debian/raspbian
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[13:53] <diederik> ac_desktop: it would probably help if you would post your sources.list
[13:53] <diederik> (not here, but on a pastebin site)
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[13:55] <diederik> and the mirrordirector will direct you to the mirror closest to you
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[13:57] <ShorTie> from the sounds of it, he's got the normal raspbian sources.list to me
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[14:04] <diederik> ime it's better not to assume
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[14:06] <ShorTie> thus is definitly true at times
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[14:21] <ShorTie> about given up on btrfs
[14:21] <ShorTie> can't get a booting system .. :/~
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[14:44] <ac_desktop> diederik: so the sources.list.d/raspi.list is redundant with the main sources.list, I suppose ?
[14:45] <ac_desktop> apparently raspbian also has a python_games directory in ~ o_O
[14:45] <ac_desktop> that doesn't seem to correspond to an apt package
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[14:47] <diederik> ac_desktop: raspi.list probably contains raspberrypi.org repo, while sources.list contains raspbian.org repos ... and they're not the same
[14:47] * ShorTie thinkz, nop not in apt-get, sumfin spindle adds in i believe
[14:48] <ShorTie> wheezy-stage4-lxde-edu:tar -xvf python_games.tar.gz
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[14:53] <ac_desktop> diederik: ok, I get it : the raspbian repo is a copy of the debian wheezy repo, with an additional section "rpi" in it, that contains the programs specific to the raspberry pi, am I right ?
[14:53] <diederik> pretty much
[14:54] <ac_desktop> diederik: and what does the raspberrypi.org repo bring then ?
[14:54] <diederik> other programs the raspberrypi foundation found useful
[14:56] <ShorTie> like the kernel i believe
[14:56] <diederik> that's indeed an important one
[14:57] <ac_desktop> diederik: why don't I see the kernel in my installed packages ?
[14:59] <diederik> maybe because it's named raspberrypi-bootloader ?
[14:59] <ac_desktop> diederik: ok, so the kernel and the bootloader are just a single package
[15:00] <ShorTie> you see a couple kernels in /boot ??
[15:00] <diederik> from the rpf, yes
[15:02] <ac_desktop> and that raspberrypi-bootloader package is nonfree I believe
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[15:03] <diederik> it does contain a binary blob, so yes
[15:03] <diederik> but if you want to use your Pi, there's no way around that
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[15:04] <ac_desktop> diederik: I suppose I can do without the video driver, since I'm using it headless
[15:05] <ac_desktop> (supposing it's the video driver)
[15:05] <diederik> no you can't since the GPU is responsible for the very first part of the boot process
[15:06] <ac_desktop> diederik: ok, that's interesting
[15:06] * ShorTie thinkz, still think you'd be better building up from like net-install in stead of trying to strip down
[15:07] <diederik> all the .bin/.dat/.elf files in /boot/ are part of the firmware, without that your Pi won't boot
[15:07] <ac_desktop> ShorTie: I'm not stripping it down anymore, I'm just discussing, trying to understand a few things about rpi while flashrom is compiling :)
[15:08] <diederik> aptitude search '?origin(Raspberry Pi Foundation)'
[15:08] <diederik> ^^ that list all packages provided by the rpf
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[15:12] <ac_desktop> diederik: or '~ORaspberry' :)
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[15:42] <littlebit_> hi people, I'm new to rasberry and networking and I want to use a rasberry as a wireless bridge as displayed in this link: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Netzwerkbr%C3%BCcke
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[15:43] <mortal> how is raspbiam armv7 going?
[15:45] <littlebit_> the problem is that they haven't done an example configuration that I could understand. Now, I was able to setup and configure my wlan to connect automatically. But i need assistance with the next step.
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[18:00] <Perdouille> Helloooo !
[18:00] <Perdouille> I got a problem : I'm trying to use my MCP3008 and I got a python script I found here : http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2013/10/analogue-sensors-on-the-raspberry-pi-using-an-mcp3008/
[18:01] <Perdouille> It's trying to find python.h
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[18:16] <lordievader> Perdouille: Do you have the python header files installed?
[18:16] <Perdouille> How do I install that ?
[18:16] <Perdouille> I installed python (apt-get install python)
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[18:18] <lordievader> Perdouille: python-dev and python3-dev for python2 and python3 respectively.
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[18:20] <Perdouille> My root is 100M used
[18:20] <Perdouille> 100%*
[18:21] <Perdouille> oO
[18:21] <lordievader> Perdouille: Did you forgot to extend the fs?
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[18:22] <Perdouille> Probably
[18:22] <Perdouille> I reboot the raspberry
[18:22] <Perdouille> ^^
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[18:34] <Perdouille> thanks lordievader, it's working !
[18:34] <lordievader> \o/
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[18:51] <Entvex> Hello do any here who use crashplan ?
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[18:52] <qtpi> hello, channel.
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[18:53] <lordievader> o/
[18:53] <qtpi> scratch doesn't seem to run here. latest raspbian image on my rpi2b and i'm connected through xrdp.
[18:53] <qtpi> \o
[18:54] <qtpi> any ideas?
[18:55] <qtpi> i get the sundial cursor for about 30-40 seconds, then nothing.
[18:56] <qtpi> well, apparently it's a clock, not a sundial.
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[19:50] <Entvex> I have a SD card that my pi won't boot from any more
[19:50] <Entvex> and windows can't see the SD card
[19:50] <Entvex> is it dead ?
[19:55] <eggy> might be; could try loading it on via linux boot to check..
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[19:57] <Entvex> Okay
[19:59] <Entvex> Thanks :)
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[20:09] <flatstik> Any ideas how I can boot up to raid1-array (/dev/md0)? What to add to /boot/cmdline.txt ..?
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[20:11] <flatstik> meh. nevermind.
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[20:17] <qtpi> hmm. scratch starts fine with sudo, but otherwise gives out "pthread_setschedparam() failed: operation not permitted"
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[20:18] <qtpi> so it can't set process priority.
[20:18] <qtpi> what can i do to run it without sudo?
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[20:22] <solar_sea> is there a testing channel for raspbian ?
[20:24] <shiftplusone> 'testing channel' ?
[20:24] <solar_sea> as in debian's stable/testing/sid
[20:25] <diederik> There's a Jessie repo, which is currently still testing
[20:26] <teclo-> ah
[20:27] <teclo-> anybody running raspbian testing ?
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[20:58] <BNoiZe> Anyone happen to have a touchscreen working with the Pi2?
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[21:43] <akex2> Hy all
[21:44] <akex2> I have a probleme with libc6 upgrade
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[21:45] <akex2> I need a libc6_2.15 for install halproxy
[21:45] <akex2> And when try to uptade it, i have an error defaul segmentation
[21:46] <akex2> Do you have a way for me ? Please
[21:46] <akex2> I try this http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/12573/which-is-the-highest-version-of-libc6-available-for-raspbian
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[21:47] <akex2> But the error stay
[21:49] <flatstik> Meh. Now I got my raid1-array to boot up, but "ls /" gives "ls: cannot access boot: Input/output error" and shows as "d????????? ? ? ? ? ? boot" .. Any ideas how to fix? :)
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[21:56] <akex2> And now i can't install nothing
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[22:18] <yids> hello
[22:19] <yids> I was wondering if anyone know something about the em28xx module, I am trying to get a dc-90 capture card working but havent succeeded yet
[22:19] <yids> At one point I got it to do something, but then only a black screen showed up
[22:20] <yids> I read a lot of posts about how people had similar issues but they are all from a couple of years ago
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[22:21] <yids> I`m running 3.18.7+ kernel from repo and did a firmware upgrade recently
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[23:26] <- *mpmctoo* I'm not here at the moment, your message has been logged and I'll get back to you when I can / %
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[23:36] <diederik> akex2: that advice on stackexchange is the worst I have seen thus far
[23:36] <diederik> libc6 is such a critical component which you can't just upgrade
[23:38] <diederik> you could try to reinstall the 'old' version of libc6 to get your system into a working order again or if you have a backup of your system, restore it using that.
[23:39] <akex2> Yes thanks diederik
[23:39] <akex2> But too late :(
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[23:39] <diederik> Then you have 2 options of the top of my head: backport halproxy to the supplied version of libc6 or upgrade your whole system to jessie
[23:39] <akex2> I re install all raspbian
[23:40] <akex2> Yes i read tou thanks
[23:40] <akex2> What is my option
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[23:41] <akex2> Ok i don't know jessie
[23:41] <diederik> if you have the source code you could try to compile it yourself and see whether that works.
[23:41] <akex2> I think a old version of haproxy
[23:41] <akex2> Hooo it too for me , i think
[23:41] <diederik> wheezy is the current debian stable, jessie is currently testing but it is being prepared to be the next stable version of debian
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[23:42] <akex2> Ok thanks
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[23:42] <akex2> You think i can find a old version of haproxy?
[23:44] <diederik> there is a version of haproxy in wheezy-backports (which is the same version as jessie has)
[23:44] <diederik> https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/haproxy
[23:44] <diederik> so you can get the source code from there and compile it yourself and that should work
[23:44] <akex2> And why i try install it
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[23:45] <akex2> I make that https://github.com/foosel/OctoPrint/wiki/Setup-on-a-Raspberry-Pi-running-Raspbian
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[23:45] <akex2> Sorry i am french and i don t speak english very well
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[23:45] <akex2> And i take her link for haproxy
[23:46] <akex2> When i install it . Ask libc6 2.15
[23:47] <akex2> I make a wget with your link and normaly is good ?
[23:47] <diederik> I don't know anything about haproxy or OctoPrint etc.
[23:48] <diederik> To get a working version of haproxy for your raspbian system, you have to compile it yourself using the sources obtained from the page I linked earlier
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[23:50] <yids> c
[23:50] <akex2> I read it thanks
[23:51] <akex2> I think i don t know compile
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[23:51] <akex2> What is make ? Make instal ?
[23:53] <diederik> Then you'll have to learn how to do it.
[23:53] <akex2> Yes i ready
[23:53] <diederik> You could try installing the armel version of the package, but if it fails, you're on your own
[23:54] <akex2> Ok
[23:56] <akex2> http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/pool/main/h/haproxy/haproxy_1.5.8-2~bpo70+1_armhf.deb
[23:56] <diederik> do you have a Pi1 or Pi2?
[23:58] <akex2> Pi 1 b+
[23:58] <diederik> then DO NOT use the armhf version, but the armel one

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