#raspbian IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-04-03

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[0:00] <sunny_> pablo_pi: The problem is with the firwall I am using. I tried to ping the pi IP from my another laptop and I am able to ping.
[0:01] <sunny_> I am really thankful that you have tried to get that Image for me.
[0:02] <sunny_> I am able to ssh pi.
[0:03] <sunny_> So, the steps mentioned in http://techtach.com/2014/12/setup-raspberry-pi-b-without-display-and-keyboard-complete-guide/ are correct to install noobs. Because when I followed those steps, I was able to see the lease for unknown device.
[0:03] <sunny_> and that was my pi.
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[0:05] <pablo_pi> sunny_: Fabulous!
[0:05] <sunny_> pablo_pi and shiftplusone: thanks for your support.
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[0:05] <walle303> im surprised how many pottentially useful channels freenode has
[0:05] <pablo_pi> sunny_: Anyway, I will try 20150216 raspbian image to see the new LXDE gui
[0:07] [FatBack VERSION]
[0:07] <pablo_pi> sunny_: Happy Hacking!
[0:07] <sunny_> :)
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[1:18] <devinmcelheran> Does anyone here have experience with Screenly?
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[1:26] <walle303> wtf
[1:26] * plugwash sets mode +b *!*@*.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
[1:26] * NlackBigger was kicked from #raspbian by plugwash
[1:26] <walle303> plugwash, why did you just ban comcast
[1:26] <devinmcelheran> I wasn't aware IRC had file capabilities.
[1:26] <walle303> devinmcelheran, its DCC
[1:26] <walle303> its client-based
[1:26] <devinmcelheran> Ah
[1:27] <shiftplusone> bah... that was annoying... thanks
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[1:27] <devinmcelheran> Has anyone ever used Screenly?
[1:27] <walle303> Hmm
[1:27] <walle303> Sorry to say i havent
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[1:27] <ApolloJustice> oh
[1:27] <shiftplusone> devinmcelheran, you won't find out by asking that question.
[1:27] <ApolloJustice> so it was from here
[1:27] <ApolloJustice> lol
[1:27] <ApolloJustice> this is why i have DCC's disabled
[1:27] <ApolloJustice> lol
[1:28] <plugwash> anyone familiar with comcasts network have any idea how wide/narrow the ban I just set was?
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[1:28] <shiftplusone> I'd leave it to freenode staff
[1:28] <ApolloJustice> not familiar
[1:28] <devinmcelheran> I'm under the impression the Screenly distribution of raspbian has a firewall to block everything but ssh and :8080 http. How would I find out for sure? The only firewall I know of is iptables, which isn't present.
[1:28] <ApolloJustice> but looking at the host i assume wa means washington
[1:28] <shiftplusone> and remove the ban that takes half of america out =P
[1:29] <ApolloJustice> so maybe you banned a chunk of washington
[1:29] <ApolloJustice> lol
[1:30] <CalebW> Hey, I'm getting "pulse audio output error: PulseAudio server connection falure: Connection refused" when trying to run vlc. How can I fix this?
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[1:32] <pablo_pi> plugwash: Thanks
[1:33] <plugwash> shiftplusone, any idea how to contact them
[1:33] <ShorTie> my guess is like everyone from hsd1.wa.comcast.net
[1:34] <ApolloJustice> plugwash, #freenode
[1:34] <plugwash> the topic in #freenode tols me to use /stats p but that returned no results
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[1:35] <plugwash> ShorTie, yeah the question is how big an area is hsd1.wa.comcast.net, the whole state? a large part of the state? or just a handful of users?
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[1:37] <CalebW> Does anyone know how I can fix the PusleAudio server connection problem?
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[7:02] <odysseus654> I suspect I may have just received a DOA RaspB2 board. no blinking act light, where switching hdml + sd + power with a different RB2 board works immediately
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[7:08] <odysseus654> ok whew, after bang my head against it for long enough I managed to get it to wake up. that was a bit scary
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[7:18] <odysseus654> next question -- the current raspbian web browser doesn't appear to be compatible with tightvnc (perhaps due to missing RENDER support?). Does anyone remember what we had previously and can it be easily installed?
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[7:39] <odysseus654> ok, think i have my answers :-)
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[8:27] <Sinkidonk> Hey I am using the Rpi2 and I am trying to setup my Rpi2 as a seed box using deluge but it look like the Rpi don't know about systemctl anyone know what I should do hear?
[8:30] <Sinkidonk> anyone hear?
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[9:15] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[10:40] <evoant> Hi anyone able to answer some noob questions? :)
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[11:15] <tron11> hi
[11:17] <tron11> I backed up raspberry pi using win32diskimager when I am trying to rewrite the image again it says not enough memory and suggestions people
[11:17] <tron11> ??
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[11:19] <Guest67201> you're trying to image an SD card?
[11:19] <Guest67201> if that's the case you need to either format the SD card and reimage or you don't have enough space on the SD card
[11:20] <lanodan> 01:28:14 <@plugwash> anyone familiar with comcasts network have any idea how wide/narrow the ban I just set was? // Maybe look at the AS
[11:21] <lanodan> On linux you just dd your card and it overwrite it
[11:22] <tron11> Guest67201, I tried formatting using HDD4.4 cleared all the memory sectors and tried writing them bur still the same result
[11:23] <Guest67201> does your card have enough space?
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[11:24] <tron11> yes it does
[11:24] <ShorTie> Image_Shrinker will fix you up https://www.dropbox.com/s/c0t13u5awa60kwy/Image_Shrinker.tar.bz2
[11:25] <ShorTie> problem is, not all sdcards are made the same
[11:25] <tron11> ok...
[11:26] <tron11> ShorTie, run the shell script for the image
[11:26] <ShorTie> you need a linux box the has free spce twice the size of the image though
[11:27] <ShorTie> now it can be a usb hdd off of the pi
[11:27] <tron11> but I am fine with shell script ShorTie my teammates need a windows program
[11:27] <ShorTie> s/spce/space/
[11:27] <ShorTie> sorry, nuffin for windows
[11:28] <ShorTie> windows and ext4 like don't get along
[11:28] <tron11> yes
[11:29] <ShorTie> whelp, there is a trick i guess maybe
[11:29] <tron11> ShorTie, okay continue with your discourse on linun usahe
[11:29] <tron11> **linux usage
[11:30] <ShorTie> haven't tried it, but i heard there is an old version of win32diskimager that has a bug in it that lets you write what you can
[11:31] <ShorTie> you would have to search for old version and play to see if it works or not
[11:31] <ShorTie> think it still like errors out, but it will work
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[11:32] <ShorTie> but my script will shrink it down to a minimal size
[11:33] <tron11> Shor tie it is like this right ./Image_Shrinker.sh imgfile ???
[11:34] <ShorTie> yes sir
[11:34] <tron11> thanks mate
[11:35] <ShorTie> No Problem
[11:37] <tron11> ShorTie, can you please explain your script that FUDGE_FACTOR part??
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[11:44] <ShorTie> FUDGE_FACTOR, you can not eliminate all the free space or the system will not boot
[11:44] <ShorTie> so, FUDGE_FACTOR, is the amount of free space it adds
[11:45] <ShorTie> which canbe different for booting to cl or gui
[11:45] <ShorTie> gui needs more free space then cl
[11:47] <ShorTie> like all of my variables are self explainatory, but I always throw 1 off the wall 1 in it seems, lol.
[11:48] <ShorTie> like in my_pi_os, it's $thingy .. :/~
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[12:03] <diederik> when I ssh into my Pi running jessie and I give the command 'poweroff' (or reboot), the ssh connection is very often not normally terminated
[12:04] <diederik> with reboot I often get my terminal back because of 'Write failed: Broken pipe', but that's not normal behaviour either.
[12:04] <buu> You mean it times out?
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[12:05] <diederik> buu: no, in that case the connection would be closed 'normally' (afaik)
[12:05] <buu> Er, what is it doing then?
[12:05] <diederik> it just hangs
[12:05] <buu> forever?
[12:06] <diederik> yep, unless I kill my tab (in Konsole)
[12:06] <buu> How long have you waited?
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[12:07] <ShorTie> how about the real commands 'shutdown now -h' or shutdown now -r' ??
[12:07] <diederik> http://picpaste.com/ssh-hangs-r49hb0pR.png
[12:08] <diederik> buu: It waits indefinately
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[12:08] <diederik> "The program 'ssh' is currently running in this session. Are you sure you want to close it?"
[12:09] <diederik> ^^ that's the error msg I get when I want to close/kill the tab
[12:09] <diederik> ShorTie: I'll try again, but I'm quite sure it doesn't make a difference
[12:09] <buu> Er, you didn't answer how long you've waited?
[12:10] <diederik> buu: It waits indefinately
[12:10] <ShorTie> sounds more like a Konsole problem, putty always works fine here
[12:10] <buu> 'indefinately' is not a time value. (or a word)
[12:11] <diederik> Nope, not a Konsole problem. I have no problems with my Debian Jessie server
[12:11] <diederik> I just killed it after it was on for at least an hour
[12:12] <buu> Thank you
[12:13] <buu> diederik: what happens if you just pull the power?
[12:14] <ShorTie> the altimate 'oh s**t button', lol.
[12:14] <diederik> just tried 'shutdown now -r' and it's hanging again. Pressing <Enter> gives me back my prompt but with the 'Broken pipe' error msg
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[12:15] <ShorTie> i'm guessing this is on a pi with net-install ??
[12:16] <diederik> buu: nothing (apart from the power led turning off)
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[12:16] <diederik> I still don't get my prompt back in Konsole from which I ssh-ed into my Pi
[12:17] <buu> wait, you get your prompt back where?
[12:17] <diederik> 'shutdown now -h' has the exact same result/behaviour as 'poweroff'
[12:18] <diederik> from the client from which I start my ssh session from
[12:18] <buu> But that isn't konsole?
[12:19] <diederik> the client is Konsole
[12:19] <buu> You said "gives me back my prompt"
[12:19] <diederik> (running KDE on Debian Sid on my main PC)
[12:19] <buu> then "don't get my prompt back"
[12:19] <buu> I'm confused what that means
[12:20] <diederik> getting back my prompt means that I can type commands again in my Konsole window/tab
[12:20] <diederik> and that implies that the ssh session is closed
[12:21] <buu> Yes? So what did you mean by also saying you didn't get it back?
[12:21] <buu> These two states seem contradictory
[12:21] <buu> And I don't understand
[12:21] <buu> Do you mean you just need to press enter to have ssh time out?
[12:22] <diederik> ok, let me try again
[12:23] <diederik> when I shutdown my Pi, either through 'poweroff' or 'shutdown now -h' my Pi does shut down, but the ssh connection from Konsole on my PC to my Pi is not closed
[12:24] <diederik> Then the cursor just keeps waiting like in the picture I posted
[12:24] <diederik> And that's what I meant by not getting back my prompt and can thus not issue any commands in that window/tab
[12:24] <buu> Ok
[12:25] <buu> And what happens when you press enter?
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[12:25] <diederik> when I reboot my Pi, either through 'reboot' or 'shutdown now -r' my Pi does reboot, but the ssh connection is not closed normally
[12:26] <diederik> And I don't get my prompt back to issue new commands ... until I press <Enter>
[12:26] <diederik> And then I get the error msg of 'Broken pipe' and then I do get my prompt back
[12:27] <diederik> Pressing enter has no effect when I shut down the Pi
[12:28] <buu> so rebooting times out the ssh session but shutting down doesn't, at least immediately.
[12:28] <diederik> pretty much
[12:33] <diederik> http://picpaste.com/ssh-does-not-hang-on-wheezy-CIuq01Bh.png
[12:33] <diederik> ^^ that's what happens on wheezy
[12:33] <diederik> and is the expected/normal behaviour
[12:35] * plugwash expects that the network is being shut down before the ssh session is
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[12:35] <diederik> I guess you're right
[12:36] <buu> I mean this seems like basic timing out stuff
[12:36] <buu> Just different values of delay
[12:36] <diederik> And I just realized an important difference between jessie on my Pi's and my (local) server running jessie ... the Pi's run systemd, while my server is (still) on sysv-init
[12:38] * diederik is updating the wheezy pi to jessie, but with sysv-init instead of systemd
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[13:16] <diederik> jessie without systemd does the ssh session properly
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[13:16] <diederik> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=626477
[13:21] <gregoa> diederik: there's also a debian bug re ssh and systemd: https://bugs.debian.org/751636
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[13:22] <diederik> installing libpam-systemd solved the issue
[13:22] <gregoa> ah, good to know
[13:23] <diederik> ha, the deb bug reference the redhat bug I posted :)
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[13:25] <diederik> with libpam-systemd, I get this: http://paste.debian.net/164682/
[13:28] <gregoa> looks better :)
[13:28] <diederik> indeed
[13:29] <diederik> systemd recommends libpam-systemd ... so maybe it's an issue with the installer :-/
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[13:32] <diederik> or cdebootstrap ...
[13:38] <diederik> I'm not exactly fluent in C, but looks like cdebootstrap is the culprit: https://sources.debian.net/src/cdebootstrap/0.6.4/src/install.c/#L216
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[13:40] <ShorTie> that is why i like using apt-get instead of picken-n-choosin, you get all the dependances you need .. :/~
[13:41] <ShorTie> no, cdebootstrap works fine here in my_pi_os .. :)~
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[13:42] <diederik> yeah, yeah, I know. Your solution is superior
[13:42] <ShorTie> So So Sorry .. :(~
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[14:47] <lotra> Hello i have noobs installed. i chaned the kayboard layout. and after the reboot it only shows ???? whne i write anything. i cant write raspi config in therminakl, it only shows ??? instead. what is the solution ?
[14:50] <lotra> every letter i write gives ? instead
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[14:51] <toillbail> have you installed ssh, if so have you tried connecting from another computer?
[14:52] <toillbail> or you could just boot with a liveCD?
[14:53] <toillbail> oh, i'm in raspberry land; sorry, no live cds here :P
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[14:59] <lotra> damm
[14:59] <lotra> i havent enabled raspberry yet
[14:59] <lotra> ops
[14:59] <lotra> i havent activated ssh yet
[14:59] <lotra> is there anyway?
[15:00] <Chillum> I don't know about noobs. Buy on raspbian you can put the memory card in a reader on another computer and edit /boot/config.txt
[15:00] <Chillum> s/buy/but/
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[15:01] <lotra> ok Chillum
[15:01] <lotra> i will do that
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[15:01] <lotra> where exacatly in boot config and what text should I enteR? its a swedish keyboard
[15:01] <Chillum> no idea
[15:02] <Chillum> never changed my keyboard settings before, but you should be able to google it
[15:02] <Chillum> where I live the default setting is correct ;)
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[15:03] <shay_shay> 'Murica
[15:03] <Chillum> Everything I know about Swedish culture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY_Yf4zz-yo
[15:03] <Chillum> "bork bork bork!"
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[15:03] <sydney_untangle> Is there any way to run RetroPie in a VM on a x86_64 computer?
[15:03] <sydney_untangle> etc.
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[15:04] <sydney_untangle> I really want to try it, but i don't have a RPI.
[15:04] <shay_shay> Retro pie
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[15:05] <shay_shay> Use qemu-arm-static
[15:05] <sydney_untangle> Any virtualbox extention?
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[15:05] <shay_shay> Chroot and zephyr nested window server
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[15:06] <sydney_untangle> Ive never used qemu
[15:07] <shay_shay> Have you ever done a chroot?
[15:07] <toillbail> lotra: have you tried changing the setting in the noobs boot menu? don't know if that will work, but worth a try
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[15:08] <sydney_untangle> Only once, a while ago.
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[15:10] <shay_shay> sydney_untangle: well with qemu-arm-static you can run an arm chroot on your x86 host
[15:11] <shay_shay> No need for a full virtualization suite
[15:11] <shay_shay> Either that or just learn how to rebuild the software
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[15:27] <sydney_untangle> shay_shay:Ok, i have the .img file now. What now?
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[15:59] <cloudy_> Hi
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[16:13] <El`> hello
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[16:13] <El`> i was running MATE on raspbian and my browser shows some pages rendered like diagonaly
[16:13] <El`> that happen to anyone?
[16:13] <El`> how do i fix that?
[16:14] <El`> im using chromium
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[16:20] <lotra> what is the command to check how big size of sd card has in raspbian therminal ?
[16:20] <lotra> sdhc card
[16:20] <El`> lsblk i guess
[16:20] <diederik> df -h
[16:21] <diederik> or 'fdisk -l'
[16:21] <El`> what does lsblk do then?
[16:22] <El`> i remember doing something with it to find out the size of something
[16:22] <lotra> you give me 3 options
[16:22] <lotra> which one is it ?
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[16:22] <El`> follow diederik '
[16:22] <El`> i have no idea what im doing
[16:22] <diederik> El`: I wasn't aware of lsblk, but it's quite a good one :)
[16:22] <El`> oh nice
[16:22] <El`> yay
[16:23] <El`> i jus started out, so ive been messing commands around a bit
[16:23] <El`> :)
[16:23] <diederik> so, follow El`;)
[16:23] <lotra> i wrote fdisk -l in terminal , nothing happened
[16:23] <lotra> it didnt say anything
[16:23] <diederik> prepend it with sudo then
[16:24] <lotra> ok
[16:24] <lotra> now it worked
[16:29] <Chillum> sudo: https://xkcd.com/149/
[16:30] <diederik> lol
[16:35] <lotra> :)
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[16:43] <cloudy_> Is there an official IRC channel for raspberry pi?
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[16:54] <Chillum> clonak: #raspberrypi
[16:54] <Chillum> not sure how official it is though
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[17:15] <mohitgupta322> Hello Everyone does anyone here owns a raspi camera module board ???
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[17:22] <mohitgupta322> Hello Everyone does anyone here owns a raspi camera module board ???
[17:22] <Chillum> people can still see your first message
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[17:34] <mohitgupta322> Can the standard raspi camera board (green color one, not the noIR one) see the TV remote IR LED when flashed towards it?
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[17:38] <Chillum> very likely it does
[17:38] <toillbail> mohitgupta: at least that works on every camera phone i have tried.. so i can see why not..
[17:38] <Chillum> unless it has a special filter
[17:39] <Chillum> I don't know from first hand experience though
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[17:40] <mohitgupta322> Yeah I tried it with mobile camera, it shows
[17:41] <lotra> i got vnc viewver installed. im trying to connect to my raspberry pi. it works with putty. but when i try to connect with vnc viewver after it says this: the connection closed unexpectedly
[17:41] <lotra> do I have to start vnc program first in pi2 ?
[17:43] <TheLostAdmin> lotra, you do need a VNC server running on the Pi in order to have something to connect to.
[17:45] <lotra> TheLostAdmin , i installed vnc, and was running it on pi2. i connected to it wremotely and it worked. then i wanted to change so i had static ip to router. i rebooted and I couldnt connect with vnc viewer or putty. i changed network file to same settings as before. and now only putty works but not vnc viewver
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[17:47] <TheLostAdmin> lotra, are you sure the vnc server started on the Pi2 after the reboot? the SSH server starts by default but not the VNC server (as far as I know).
[17:48] <lotra> thats exactly what im asking for. i suspect vnc server did NOT start. how do I make it so it autostarts everytime ?
[17:49] <TheLostAdmin> There are a few choices, how did you start it the first time?
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[17:51] <lotra> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6tnNBlqtNI <-- i just installed it from instructions on that video. after the installation vnc viewer seems to have started by itself , cause all i did was install it and then connect to it remotely
[17:53] <lotra> one remark, i needed to connect via putty first before connecting with vnc viewver
[17:54] <TheLostAdmin> lotra, here's an article about getting the vnc server to start on boot. It's got installation too so some redundancy over what you've already done. http://elinux.org/RPi_VNC_Server
[17:55] <TheLostAdmin> lotra, the bit where it talks about update-rc.d is where it's explaining how to start the vnc server automatically on boot.
[17:55] <TheLostAdmin> You could also configure putty to start the server as a command when you run putty.
[17:55] <lotra> okay
[17:55] <lotra> what is the command to start in putty ?
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[17:56] <TheLostAdmin> probably "vncserver localhost" without the quotes.
[17:56] <lotra> ok
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[17:56] <lotra> ah thx
[17:58] <lotra> damm
[17:58] <lotra> still same answer
[17:59] <TheLostAdmin> for what it's worth, I've been having trouble with VNC on my Pi as well but I'm trying to do something a bit more advanced.
[17:59] <lotra> ok
[18:00] <Chillum> https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-raspberry-pi-lesson-7-remote-control-with-vnc/running-vncserver-at-startup <-- have not tried it myself but it looks promising
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[18:01] <Chillum> nm, those instructions look a bit whacked
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[18:03] <Hubert_> does anyone have experience with omxplayer? i'm trying to display my webcam with it
[18:03] <Chillum> this looks like a more linux way: http://elinux.org/RPi_VNC_Server#Run_at_boot
[18:03] <Hubert_> unfortunately "omxplayer /dev/video0" does not work :/
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[18:52] <TheLostAdmin> I finally figured out what was wrong with my raspbian TightVNC & Lightdm XDMCP setup.
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[19:02] <Chillum> TheLostAdmin: what was wrong?
[19:03] <TheLostAdmin> I couldn't get past the VNC password prompt (it just hung after entering the password). Turns out I was just stupid.
[19:03] <TheLostAdmin> the VNC server is running via xinetd as the user nobody. And there was no vnc password setup on the nobody account (duh).
[19:04] <TheLostAdmin> So it was never getting to the point where the virtual X server would actually query the XDMCP server of lightdm.
[19:04] <TheLostAdmin> when I clued in and added -rfbauth path/file to my password file, it all worked.
[19:04] <TheLostAdmin> Duh.
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[19:06] <Chillum> the password being limited to 8 characters on vnc is super lame. I always bind it to localhost and use ssh forwarding to access it
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[19:10] <TheLostAdmin> That's what I'm doing Chillum but I'm connecting from an OSX desktop and the built-in client insists on having a password set.
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[19:11] <TheLostAdmin> That's why VNC and XDMCP
[19:11] <Chillum> neat
[19:12] <Chillum> I got vnc working on my Pi but I am not sure how to get it to start you at the login screen rather than a given users desktop
[19:12] <TheLostAdmin> ssh with port forwarding, auto-launch "screen sharing" and up pops a login prompt for the Pi in a nice little window.
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[19:13] <TheLostAdmin> There are a bunch of blogs/wiki article about it. I'll probably add my own soonish.
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[19:13] <TheLostAdmin> In the mean time. /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf has a section for XDMCP, to enable the login prompt that way. Then...
[19:14] <TheLostAdmin> if you use the -query localhost arguement on the xvnc command line to get it connect to the xdmcp server (lightdm).
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[19:23] <Chillum> screen sharing, that is a good idea considering it is a headless box
[19:23] <Chillum> thanks
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[19:53] <TheSnide> hmmm, just got an "offer" for a keylogger ;)
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[20:16] <milo___> Hi, I am in the process of buying a raspberry pi 2 with 1GB, will a powersupply with 5V 1A be enough?
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[20:17] <leio> yes, if you don't need to have some power demanding usb devices
[20:18] <peetbog> should fire the pi ok. usb ... like he said
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[20:37] <lotra> where do you get 5V 2A powersupply for pi 2 ?
[20:38] <diederik> http://thepihut.com/collections/raspberry-pi-power-supplies
[20:43] <lotra> im using 1.8A 5V power adaptor which originially is charger for my smartphone. is it normal that the light is orange/red when i run pi 2 ?
[20:43] <lotra> shouldnt it be green?
[20:44] <diederik> the power led is red, the led indicating write activity is green
[20:44] <lotra> ahh okay
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[21:40] <diederik> plugwash: I just got a kernel crash with rpi16 on jessie on a Pi 1 B
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[21:42] <diederik> it is the first one I've seen and the kernel dump is the same as the ones posted here: https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/issues/199#issuecomment-84358071
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[22:02] <puzzola> Probably a stupid question: what's "rpi16?"
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[22:03] <diederik> it's a raspbian.org kernel version
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[22:03] <diederik> a new one with the goal of fixing some kernel crashes
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[22:08] <puzzola> Ok, thanks. I've seen it mentioned a few times, got curious
[22:09] * puzzola has not worked up the courage to build a kernel yet :)
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[22:13] <shiftplusone> not much courage required
[22:13] <shiftplusone> puzzola, apt-get install gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi (or something like that); git clone https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux.git; cd linux; ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=gcc-linux-gnueabi- make bcm2709_defconfig; ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=gcc-linux-gnueabi- make bcm2709_defconfig
[22:14] <plugwash> diederik, :(
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[22:14] <diederik> yep, still it's a huge improvement over the previous kernel
[22:15] <diederik> I've regenerated the initramfs a number of times, but got the kernel panic each time.
[22:16] <diederik> And I had just started a new install (on all 3 Pi's I have) ... and got a kernel crash on the Pi1 B again :-(
[22:16] <plugwash> The Pi1 model B certainly seems to be the most susceptable to the problem :(
[22:17] <diederik> yep, looks like it.
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[22:17] <diederik> I wouldn't be surprised at all if it would happen with the rpf kernel too (with initramfs)
[22:18] <shiftplusone> diederik, didnt you open an issue about that, or have you closed it again thinking it's resolved?
[22:18] <diederik> The Pi2 is succesful again and I'm now generating the initramfs for the 3rd time on the second install
[22:18] <plugwash> it was closed by someone from raspberry pi after it appeared to go away
[22:18] <plugwash> (think it was dom who closed it but I can't remember for sure)
[22:18] <diederik> I did open an issue and told that I expected to be solved and it was thus closed
[22:19] <diederik> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/914
[22:19] <shiftplusone> make it happen with the foundation kernel and re-open it. If you can't re-open, I could.
[22:19] <diederik> I have tested the Pi 1B+ and the P2 more often then I have the Pi 1B though
[22:20] <diederik> yep, that's indeed what I will try to do
[22:21] <diederik> I'll test the Pi 1B some more to see whether I can make it happen on wheezy too
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[22:30] <diederik> with the raspberrypi-bootloader package installed (3.18.7+) I got a kernel panic
[22:31] <diederik> with an initramfs that is. Now going to run rpi-update to see whether it also happens with the latest kernel
[22:33] <diederik> ah crap!
[22:34] <diederik> The second install on a Pi 1B+ failed with a kernel crash
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[22:48] <diederik> I haven't been able to get a kernel crash after running rpi-update ... yet
[22:48] <diederik> Just for kicks I regenerated the initramfs for the rpi16 raspbian.org kernel and booted into that ... successfully
[22:48] <Chillum> I have been getting crashes, is there a new kernel released?
[22:48] <diederik> Chillum: with which kernel? (uname -a)
[22:49] <Chillum> Linux pi1 3.18.9-v7+ #772 SMP PREEMPT Sun Mar 22 15:19:51 GMT 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux
[22:49] <diederik> that's the one from raspberrypi-bootloader package. I have gotten crashes too with that one.
[22:49] <diederik> Are you using an initramfs?
[22:50] <Chillum> I don't know, used the standard raspbian image and ran rpi-upgrade
[22:50] <diederik> if you don't know, then you're very likely not using it
[22:51] <Chillum> oh you mean like /dev/shm?
[22:51] <Chillum> I am using that for temp files to be gzipped to reduce disk writes
[22:51] <Chillum> at a high speed
[22:51] * Chillum has no idea lol
[22:52] <diederik> no. You can generate an initramfs by running '/etc/kernel/postinst/initramfs-tools $(uname -r)' and then enabling it in /boot/config.txt
[22:52] <Chillum> oh I have not tinkered with that
[22:52] <diederik> the image from raspberrypi.org doesn't use an initramfs by default
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[22:52] <Chillum> just dist-upgrade and rpi-update
[22:53] <diederik> are you getting crashes during booting up or during 'normal' use?
[22:53] <diederik> and on what Pi model?
[22:53] <Chillum> during normal use. Pi 2 B.
[22:53] <Chillum> my normal use is 100% on all cpus 24/7 though
[22:53] <diederik> haha
[22:54] <diederik> The issue I/we are trying to fix now is during boot up when using an initramfs
[22:54] <Chillum> My cheap power supply may be dropping voltage
[22:54] <Chillum> I have a better one coming, and proper 24AWG cables
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[22:54] <Chillum> I see
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[22:55] <diederik> what are 24AWG cables?
[22:55] <Chillum> they are thicker than the more common 28AWG cables
[22:55] <Chillum> less resistance
[22:55] <diederik> ah ok, thanks
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[22:55] <Chillum> cheap cables won'y carry more than 700ma no matter what is available
[22:56] <ShorTie> nothing beats good old copper
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[22:56] <Chillum> Silver beats copper
[22:56] <ShorTie> the more the marrier as they say
[22:56] <Chillum> just too expensive
[22:57] <ShorTie> true and very true
[22:57] <Chillum> silver is one of the very best conductors out there
[22:57] <diederik> I'm using this one: http://www.kiwi-electronics.nl/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-stroomvoorzieningen/microusb-voeding-5V2-2A
[22:58] <Chillum> okay I ran rpi update and now I am at
[22:58] <Chillum> Linux pi5 3.18.10-v7+ #775 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 2 19:01:29 BST 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux
[22:58] <Chillum> hope that fixes it
[22:59] <ShorTie> the cheap phone charger micro-usb cables are tensle coated plastic
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[23:16] <diederik> where gets the rpi-update program installed? (full path)
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[23:17] <diederik> found it (/usr/bin/rpi-update)
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[23:29] * diederik hopes the following script installs the rpi-update kernel for the first boot: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/56356217/
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[23:49] <groovestix> hey folks, is it possible to use PPAs on raspbian, and can someone help me check if I can get qbittorrent to work with it ?
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[23:55] <peetbog> hi groovestix
[23:56] <peetbog> yes you want synaptic package manager? And I would recommend Transmission for a torrent.
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[23:58] <peetbog> nothing heard. and yes qbittorrent is in the packages.

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