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IRC Log for 2015-05-13

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[0:08] <Encapsulation> can someone assist me with installation and configuration of the ralink 5370
[0:08] <Encapsulation> I'm unable to see the module loaded and the lsusb output seems incomplete
[0:09] <Encapsulation> aka, this shit doesnt work
[0:09] * Encapsulation goes insane
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[0:14] <lbundle> Does anyone have experience with Jessie?
[0:15] <lbundle> I am trying to disable the graphical interface but failing
[0:16] <plugwash> try service lightdm disable
[0:17] <plugwash> if you are using a greeter other than lightdm then replace lightdm in that command with the greeter you are using
[0:17] <lbundle> @plugwash, I am basically using a stock installation.
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[0:17] <diederik> plugwash: not systemctl lightdm disable?
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[0:18] * plugwash thought that the service command was supposed to work regardless of what init system you are using
[0:19] <lbundle> @diederik: systemctl failed
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[0:19] <lbundle> I'd run it but lightdm still came back on rebood
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[0:19] <diederik> lbundle: ah ok
[0:19] <lbundle> I've just tried "service" and at least it has stopped it temporarily
[0:20] <diederik> I didn't know 'service' had a disable command (I haven't seen it with /etc/init.d/<service>)
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[0:21] <lbundle> Now the real test: let me reboot and see if it will come back
[0:21] <diederik> (which is what I still use to start/stop services)
[0:22] <hanlon2> lbundle: which init system do you have active?
[0:22] <lbundle> systemd
[0:22] <lbundle> that's what comes with jessie
[0:22] <lbundle> And lightdm is back :-(
[0:23] <hanlon2> then, it _should_ be: 'systemctl disable lightdm' , not 'systemctl lightdm disable'. that assumes that it IS launched by a systemd service ...
[0:24] <lbundle> hanlon2: testing......
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[0:27] <hanlon2> lbundle: do you want ANY greeter? or plan instead to boot into kodi directly, or somesuch?
[0:28] <lbundle> hanlon2: I want basic terminal, no X
[0:28] <hanlon2> lbundle: you could remove lightdm pkg ...
[0:30] <lbundle> I'm amazed it's this difficult
[0:31] <hanlon2> assuming it's lightdm package, 'apt-get remove lightdm'. purge after if needed.
[0:33] <lbundle> now if I remove lighted won't the boot process freak out?
[0:35] <lbundle> hanlon, it worked
[0:35] <hanlon2> I'm not sitting in front of a working RPi atm to test. But, my old Pi had no problems without it. raspbian doesn't inherently require a UI/X-server iiuc. Worst case, you drop to emergency mode and reinstall ...
[0:36] <lbundle> hanlon2: it's all good
[0:37] <hanlon2> +1. now, when I get a new RPi, I'll have to figure out why I was having boot issues with systemd in place ...
[0:37] <hanlon2> as, apparently, it work for many others
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[0:47] <lbundle> hanlon2: I still wonder why the official system way does not work
[0:47] <hanlon2> lbundle: diederik fwiw, others have systemd issues: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=104314
[0:47] <hanlon2> Looks like some cleanup needs to occur.
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[0:48] <diederik> yep, it seems to not be as smooth as it should be
[0:48] <lbundle> Does anyone know why systemd was imposed on everyone?
[0:49] <hanlon2> Oh, no ... not "TheGreatDebate(tm)" !
[0:49] <diederik> hanlon2: I have had very little problems when installed with the Net Installer though (after also installing libpam-systemd)
[0:50] <hanlon2> diederik: here, step1 -- get a working Rpi2. step2 -- get Kodi back up & running on the RPI2. step3 -- worry about systemd on Rapsbian.
[0:51] <hanlon2> I'm a fan of systemd -- elsewhere. Just a matter of cleaning up the transition mess.
[0:51] <diederik> step 1 seems rather important :-P
[0:51] <hanlon2> Yeah, yeah
[0:52] <lbundle> I've had no opinion of systemd until this two day torture test.
[0:52] <hanlon2> I just can't figure out what raspian-specific issue is casuing these problems. CLearly others are running the silly thing on RPi2.
[0:53] <hanlon2> lbundle: It's not a systemd issue. Imo, it's a distro/packaging issue.
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[1:16] * plugwash does some googline
[1:16] <plugwash> *gooogling
[1:16] <plugwash> It looks like the answer may systemctl mask lightdm.service
[1:16] * diederik prefers duckduckgoing
[1:17] <diederik> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/#thesystemdforadministratorsblogseries
[1:18] <diederik> ^^ I've recently started to go through that to learn more about systemd
[1:18] <plugwash> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/140534/disable-init-d-script-in-systemd
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[1:21] <plugwash> diederik, thanks
[1:21] <diederik> thanks! The further reading points to blog nr 5 in the series
[1:22] <plugwash> it seems the tricky thing with lightdm is that it's not a native systemd service, but an init.d script running through the compatibility mechanism
[1:22] <plugwash> and that means certain things don't behave as you would expect
[1:22] <diederik> yep, looks like it
[1:23] <diederik> also noticed that on the link to systemd problems hanlon2 posted, most were init.d scripts ...
[1:23] <plugwash> personally I think the biggest problem is that debian spent so long arguing about init systems that the actual implementation ended up being pretty rushed
[1:24] <diederik> I think so too
[1:24] <diederik> I'm running Sid precisely to learn new technologies soon and help wade out bugs from them
[1:25] <plugwash> feel free to also run raspbian stretch ;)
[1:25] <hanlon2> Dunno how Debian does it, but on other OS, many systemd service files for non-core-OS functions/apps are left to the app devs -- not the core team. That often gets mired in silly politics & philosophy, and lags or just bitrots.
[1:25] <diederik> But in the fall of last year I manually forced systemd on me, because my normal updates didn't bring it in
[1:25] <lbundle> plugwash: I tried masking lightdm and it did not work
[1:26] <plugwash> hmm, the examples i'm finding online seem to say you should use lightdm.service not lightdm to mask
[1:26] <diederik> plugwash: will try stretch, although probably not (very) soon
[1:27] <plugwash> but personally if I don't want a greeter my normal soloution is to not have one installed at all
[1:27] * diederik is still thinking about changing cdebootstrap for debootstrap for the installer ...
[1:28] <plugwash> diederik, what's stopping you just doing it?
[1:29] <diederik> worries about breaking the installer for others
[1:30] <diederik> and time/priorities
[1:31] <diederik> There are several long standing issues I want to resolve and also make the jessie install better
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[1:33] * plugwash decides it's time to push a bit harder on bug 783672
[1:34] <diederik> HAHA! I thought you're referring to that one before looking it up :-D
[1:35] <diederik> plugwash: do you just want to know whether stretch works? afaict there isn't much difference between stretch and jessie atm
[1:37] <diederik> for personal use/testing it's quite easy to replace cdebootstrap with debootstrap
[1:37] * plugwash sends the mail to 783672 complete with severity upgrade and NMU threat
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[1:38] <diederik> lol
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[1:43] <diederik> hanlon2: I think Debian does leave it to upstream too to provide it and this is actually seen as a benefit of using systemd
[1:43] <diederik> but yeah, that will often result in (emotional) debates
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[1:46] <hanlon2> diederik: sure, if you take advantage of that flexibility. for users that just install the stock-distro, expecting stuff to JustWork(tm), getting apps that suffer from weird startup behavior because dependencies etc haven't been ironed out by the app maintainers gets everyone hot & bothered over systemd. Which is the wrong target.
[1:47] <diederik> yep, very true
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[2:20] * diederik thinks a msg needs to be send/forwarded to control@bugs.debian.org too ...
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[2:34] <ali1234> hanlon2: i don't think it is unfair to criticise systemd because the app maintainers haven't ported to it
[2:35] <ali1234> one of the arguments constantly used in favour of systemd is roughly "app maintainers prefer it because it is easier and that is why they all now use it"
[2:35] <ali1234> so if packages are breaking and maintainers are in fact not porting things, someone is telling porkies
[2:38] <hanlon2> no. a maintainer's decision to port or not to port has absolutely nothing to do with systemd's capability or quality. and that's exactly what it is -- a decision. I run 100% systemd-based systems in production -- where upstream's not interested, or not capable, of making changes that are necessary, I've simply made the changes myself. Again, systemd is not the problem.
[2:39] <lbundle> hanlon2: plugwash diederik : Filed as bug #1454477
[2:40] <diederik> lbundle: which bug tracker?
[2:40] <lbundle> diederik: https://bugs.launchpad.net/raspbian/+bug/1454477
[2:40] <ali1234> launchpad
[2:41] <diederik> ok, thanks
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[2:45] <diederik> raspi-config (and the other raspberrypi.org stuff) aren't updated for jessie/systemd yet (but it's being worked on)
[2:47] <lbundle> diederik: you're working on it?
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[2:47] <diederik> no, not me. Probably shiftplusone
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[2:50] <diederik> haha, exactly 60000 views on the raspbian-ua-netinst thread :)
[2:53] <hanlon2> diederik: fwiw, Got my hands on another Rpi2. Openelec img install boots both RPis. raspbian netinstall'd sdcard boots the 'new' RPi2, but not the 'old'. In fact, there's no Raspian img that'll boot the 'old'; all work on the 'new'. That makes no sense to me, but there you have it.
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[2:54] <diederik> thanks and that's indeed odd
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[2:55] <diederik> afaict it must be a kernel issue
[2:56] <hanlon2> I was thinking bios. It's the same kernel on the 2 RPis
[2:56] <diederik> have you tried with disabling device tree? ('device_tree=' in /boot/config.txt)
[2:57] <hanlon2> yep. no difference.
[2:57] <diederik> afaik there is no bios, but there is firmware code
[2:58] <diederik> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=6685
[2:59] <hanlon2> so, it's all "on the sdcard"?
[2:59] <diederik> yes
[2:59] <hanlon2> that makes even less sense, then :-/
[3:00] <diederik> I don't _know_ but it's quite likely that openelec uses a different kernel
[3:00] <hanlon2> right. but raspbian -- both netinstalled and full-installed -- boots one RPi, but not the other. If there's a problen "on" the card, then it should fail for both.
[3:01] <plugwash> IMO if you have flashed a card with the raspberry pi foundation raspbian image and tested the same card (not just the same image on different cards) in both Pis and one works and the other doesn't then it's RMA time
[3:01] <hanlon2> plugwash: +1
[3:01] <hanlon2> even though openelec boots on both ...
[3:02] <diederik> I have a test if you're up for it ...
[3:02] <hanlon2> other than throwing it in the lake?
[3:03] <diederik> haha, yeah. for testing the kernel (the one from the official image and the netinstaller are mostly the same)
[3:03] <diederik> write the netinstaller to the sd card
[3:03] <diederik> copy the kernel from openelec (also) to the sd card
[3:04] <hanlon2> ugh. nah. rma.
[3:04] <diederik> if it's 'kernel7.img', then just comment out the kernel line in config.txt
[3:04] <diederik> try to boot it up
[3:05] <diederik> (but yeah, you should rma it)
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[3:08] <diederik> lbundle: http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/three-levels-of-off
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[3:12] <hanlon2> Rpi2's an arm7, right?
[3:12] <diederik> yes
[3:12] <hanlon2> For the Rpi1, req'd compile flags included -march=armv6zk,-mfpu=vfp,-mfloat-abi=hard,-mtune=arm1176jzf-s & -mcpu=arm1176jzf-s
[3:12] <hanlon2> Know where those are doc'd for the Rpi2?
[3:13] <diederik> that's outside my knowledge area, maybe plugwash/shiftplusone knows ...
[3:14] * plugwash wouldn't describe most of those flags as "required"
[3:14] <hanlon2> plugwash: They are if you're trying to get compiling in your cross-compile chrott env to build correct bins for your Rpi target ....
[3:16] <hanlon2> Unless there's a set of 'generic' Rpi-target flags. Like =nocona for x86_64 envs.
[3:18] <plugwash> IIRC for the default compiler flags in raspbian we use -march=armv6 -mfpu=vfp and -mfloat-abi=hard . Pretty sure we don't set mtune or mcpu at all
[3:19] <plugwash> and that works fine for both pi1 and pi2, I suspect your flags will too
[3:19] <hanlon2> This is interesting, https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=98897
[3:20] <plugwash> if you want armv7+neon specific code you can use -march=armv7-a and -mfpu=neon
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[3:20] <plugwash> There may be some even more targetted options for the cortex-a7 but if there are I expect they are only in pretty new versions of gcc
[3:22] <hanlon2> plugwash: for Rpi1, you'll get better optimization with "-Ofast -mfpu=vfp -mfloat-abi=hard -march=armv6zk -mtune=arm1176jzf-s". Cref here: http://elinux.org/RPi_Software
[3:23] <hanlon2> nothing there for v7, tho
[3:24] * plugwash has his doubts that the information on that page is true in the general case
[3:26] <hanlon2> my kodi with those flags is noticeably 'perkier' ...
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[3:55] <Encapsulation> aka, this shit doesnt work
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[4:51] <artifice> I'm trying to install postgresql, but the install fails with an error about postgresql-9.1 not being configured. Any ideas? (http://termbin.com/s8tm)
[4:52] <artifice> It looks like something is already bound to that port, but using "lsof -i" tells me there isn't.
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[7:28] <jigsawFE2> hi, is raspbian easily upgradable on release upgrade?
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[8:40] <zGrr> moin :)
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[10:05] <Ove_> What is the state of raspbian on rpi2?
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[10:13] <shiftplusone> Ove_: what are the options?
[10:15] <Ove_> Well, tried freebsd on rpi2. With tornadoweb (which should choose kqueue, which is very effective). But it was not very asynchronous.
[10:17] <Ove_> So a test which consumes from a rabbitmq queue is not very effectient at all, it get's very fast, but almost no acks.
[10:17] <Ove_> I wanted to try it on raspbian to see if there's any difference in performance.
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[10:29] <Beholder> hi friends
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[10:29] <Beholder> I would like to ask a question how can i do that
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[10:33] <Ove_> What did he want to do? <o>
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[12:20] <jigsawFE> hey, where does raspbian store iptables config
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[12:20] <jigsawFE> i added iptables-restore to if-up, if-pre-up and init.d but the iptables.rules are never restored thus my guess is that raspbian resets to default somewhere itself
[12:21] <shiftplusone> https://wiki.debian.org/iptables
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[12:21] <jigsawFE> thanks
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[12:29] <chip_rider> Hi! I'm interested to build a minimal raspbian. Any idea where I can found a good tutorial to start?
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[12:45] <ShorTie> check out my_pi_os.sh or raspbian-ua-netinstall
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[12:53] <chip_rider> ShorTie, thx try out both
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[12:58] <Getty> yeah SD cards are really expansive these days, good to replace that with worktime ;)
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[13:22] <Nik05> hello, im now upgrading to jessie, and i also want to switch to systemd. Is there any special settings i need to change to use systemd or is it the same is in debian?
[13:26] <ShorTie> the upgrade to jessie switches you over to systemd
[13:26] <ShorTie> and it be the same as debian, because raspbian is just debian optimized for the pi
[13:29] <Nik05> oke thank you
[13:32] <diederik> Nik05: check that 'libpam-systemd' is installed after the upgrade
[13:32] <Nik05> yes its installed
[13:33] <diederik> excellent
[13:34] <Nik05> and for logging, is that also switch to journald by defualt?
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[13:35] <diederik> yes, journald is a non-optional part of systemd
[13:36] <Nik05> oh oke
[13:36] <Nik05> and do i need to remove other logging services?
[13:37] <diederik> not that I know of
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[13:46] <Nik05> lets reboot and see if it works :P
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[14:09] <Nik05> it boots
[14:09] <Nik05> i was typing in #rasbian...
[14:10] <Nik05> also switching to networkd, hopefully i can still access my pi after reboot...
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[15:34] <Nik05> oh there is already a raspberry pi 2... i still got the 250MB version
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[15:40] <shiftplusone> heh... a little late to the party XD
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[15:41] <TheLostAdmin> where do I report a missing file in the raspbian build?
[15:42] <Nik05> shiftplusone how old is the rpi2? :P
[15:42] <shiftplusone> TheLostAdmin: what file?
[15:43] <shiftplusone> Nik05: fiarly new.
[15:43] <TheLostAdmin> /usr/share/lightdm-gtk-greeter/hicolor/scalable/apps/computer.svg isn't there in the current download.
[15:43] <ShorTie> supercomputer.c
[15:43] <Nik05> oh oke
[15:43] <Nik05> my debian doesnt have it either
[15:43] <TheLostAdmin> it's the icon on the default login screen when you enable lightdm for login.
[15:43] <TheLostAdmin> I put a raspberry pi logo file there and I no longer have a "missing image" icon.
[15:44] <TheLostAdmin> it took me a couple hours of digging through config files to figure out.
[15:47] <shiftplusone> I'll pass it on to the GUI guy.
[15:47] <TheLostAdmin> okay
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[15:48] <Nik05> i guess its a bug in debian then as well
[15:48] <TheLostAdmin> it could be, Nik05. The only debian I use is on the RPi.
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[16:10] <Fenikkusu> I'm currently working on setting up a NAS (NAS4Free (FreeBSD) ARM) on the Pi2. It's working well thus far, but I'm getting approx 3.3Mb/s right now. Does anyone have any thoughts on why this might be?
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[16:41] <Nik05> hello im back again.
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[16:42] <Nik05> Are there people that let the system wait for ntp sync at boot? or is that not nessesary? And if how do you do that?
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[17:04] <daniele12457> hi guys
[17:04] <daniele12457> I have some problem
[17:04] <daniele12457> I'm trying to build a out of tree module
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[17:05] <daniele12457> I managed to get the souce code of my kernel, then do zcat /proc/config.gz .config. But when I do make oldconfig It keeps asking me strage question.
[17:05] <daniele12457> How should I compile a hello world out of tree kernel module?
[17:06] <daniele12457> Google doesn't seems to help me much
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[17:07] <ShorTie> if 'make oldconfig' asked questions, then the config doesn't match the sources
[17:08] <daniele12457> for ex I have the kernel 3.18.11+
[17:08] <daniele12457> how can I get the right kernel?
[17:09] <Guest99137> Hi guys! Can anyone help me with the raspi-cam setup? Spent all day installing from clean image. Want to get octoprint, the pitft AND the raspicam to run. Had it going yesterday, then the tft broke again by doing upgrade. Now started from zero with the pitft image and after doing all the same steps the cam won't work. Getting desperate her...
[17:09] <Guest99137> here.
[17:10] <Guest99137> right now I'm getting:
[17:10] <Guest99137> DBG(/home/pi/mjpg-streamer/mjpg-streamer-experimental/plugins/input_raspicam/input_raspicam.c, worker_thread(), 572): Host init, starting mmal stuff
[17:10] <Guest99137> mmal: mmal_vc_component_create: failed to create component 'vc.ril.camera' (1:ENOMEM)
[17:10] <Guest99137> mmal: mmal_component_create_core: could not create component 'vc.ril.camera' (1)
[17:10] <Guest99137> error create camera
[17:10] <Guest99137> when trying to start mjpeg-streamer
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[18:10] <Fenikkusu> Does the Pi's Usb/Networking use polling or interrupts?
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[19:00] <daniele12457> Hi.
[19:01] <daniele12457> I managed to git clone and git checkout version 3.18.11 but I have the kernel 3.18.11+. they both have the save revision.
[19:01] <daniele12457> But how can I get the + with git?
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[19:01] <shiftplusone> the + comes for free
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[19:02] <shiftplusone> it means you're building from vcs and it's not tagged
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[19:04] <daniele12457> So when I build the out of tree module against the 3.18.11 they can be loaded by 3.18.11+ right?
[19:05] <daniele12457> Because actually I got some strange error as soon as it load the modules.
[19:05] <usr13> How can I turn off powersave? (so that screen stays on)
[19:05] <usr13> ... appliance mode ...
[19:05] <usr13> ?
[19:09] <usr13> Maybe that
[19:09] <usr13> Maybe that's not what's happening, but the screen goes blank after a half hour or so.
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[19:10] <usr13> I'm trying to just get it to run a slideshow continously. So I've set up geeqie to run slideshow mode full-screen. (Maybe that
[19:11] <usr13> (Maybe that's just too much for the 32bit PI?
[19:12] <vagrantc> it's probably just blanking the screen
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[19:12] <vagrantc> i.e. a crude screensaver
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[19:15] <vagrantc> usr13: to disable screen blanking: xset s 0
[19:15] <vagrantc> usr13: you may also need to disable the screensaver, if there is one
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[19:30] <artifice> Hey guys. I don't seem to have a loopback interface... ifconfig shows eth0 but that's it. Any ideas?
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[19:32] <artifice> I also don't have a /etc/network/interfaces file
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[19:49] <usr13> vagrantc: Thanks. I'm also looking to lean up a bit. I've got the standard destop loading with geeqie running slideshow in full screen, but it is heavy labor for the 32bit PI. What can I do to lean up?
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[19:51] <usr13> is anything lighter than lxde? (All I need to do is run slideshow.
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[20:06] <jigsawFE> maybe just run openbox
[20:06] <jigsawFE> but i'd favor lxde
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[20:50] <usr13> Sorry, I had an interruption in internet service.
[20:50] <usr13> No matter what I do, it runs it up to 100%
[20:50] <usr13> Not sure what is wrong.... any clues?
[20:51] <usr13> And I get: "Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt"
[20:52] <ali1234> write your own slideshow with Wayland and Qt
[20:52] <ali1234> also get a better power supply
[20:52] <usr13> Kernel panic -
[20:52] <usr13> does lxde need to run?
[20:53] <ali1234> no
[20:54] <usr13> openbox? (What runs under LXDE?)
[20:56] <ali1234> no idea
[20:56] <ali1234> with Wayland and/or Qt-embedded your app can run fullscreen with nothing else running
[20:56] <ali1234> even better, just use dispmanx directly
[20:57] <ali1234> you could adapt this https://github.com/AndrewFromMelbourne/raspidmx/tree/master/pngview
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