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IRC Log for 2015-06-26

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[8:42] <molgrum> lordievader: hey are you there? :)
[8:43] <molgrum> was just gonna hexplain what i meant
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[8:52] <lordievader> Good morning.
[8:53] <lordievader> molgrum: I am now.
[8:54] <molgrum> lordievader: nice
[8:54] <molgrum> lordievader: let's assume that i have created /var/www/html on the Pi
[8:54] <molgrum> lordievader: can i put files there _before_ creating the deployment repo there?
[8:55] <molgrum> or any directory where nginx is configured to look at
[8:55] <lordievader> Yes. The order of creating a repo vs creating files doesn't matter.
[8:55] <molgrum> alrightey
[8:56] <molgrum> that's good cause i want to conf nginx and create some basic homepage before i install git server
[8:57] <lordievader> I'd create the git repo at /var/www/html first. Since then you can commit the steps you take.
[8:58] <molgrum> hmm ok
[8:58] <molgrum> now you made me uncertain :P
[8:58] <lordievader> Just a local repo. If you are not going to share code a remote repo is not necessary.
[8:59] <molgrum> lordievader: i'm going to commit code from my own computer to my Pi
[8:59] <molgrum> so i guess i need a remote repo?
[8:59] <lordievader> Your pi could be the remote ;)
[8:59] <molgrum> yeah
[9:00] <molgrum> lordievader: that was my plan, was just uncertain if i could create the folder + html files beforehand
[9:00] <molgrum> on the Pi
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[9:01] <lordievader> molgrum: https://github.com/blog/1957-git-2-3-has-been-released
[9:01] <molgrum> brb breakfast
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[9:07] <lordievader> Ohh, this is fancy: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-automatic-deployment-with-git-with-a-vps
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[9:27] <molgrum> lordievader: oh my, more reading :)
[9:27] <molgrum> but it's good to learn git, it's the "new thing"
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[9:28] <lordievader> Just tested it. It is awesome.
[9:30] <molgrum> so work tree is the actual place where the files end up and git dir just contains the configuration?
[9:31] <molgrum> and backups etc
[9:31] <lordievader> In the senario drawn by digitalocean there are three parts. Your workstation, the git server and the production server.
[9:31] <lordievader> Through those hooks when you push to master on the git server, the git server runs a checkout on the production server.
[9:32] <molgrum> yeah
[9:38] <molgrum> wow this is pretty "complicated" (for a newbie)
[9:38] <molgrum> how do i install a git server btw?
[9:38] <molgrum> i could go ahead and do that
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[9:39] <molgrum> just install git or?
[9:42] <molgrum> ah, apt-get install git-core
[9:43] <lordievader> Install git -> git init --bare; done.
[9:43] <molgrum> thanks lordievader
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[10:28] <molgrum> lordievader: is it advised to create a .gitconfig on the user that's going to init the remote repo?
[10:28] <molgrum> i really would like to ask in #git but they don't answer :(
[10:28] <lordievader> It is usefull to have one.
[10:28] <molgrum> i'm gonna create a web user that takes care of the web page
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[10:33] <Skyrider> I assume there's no 'easy' way to install kodi with the raspbian os?
[10:35] <lordievader> Skyrider: It is in the Jessie repo.
[10:36] <Skyrider> apt-get install kodi appears to work.
[10:36] <Skyrider> but google says there's a lot of ways.
[10:36] <Skyrider> one page giving tons of commands to run to run smoothly...
[10:36] <lordievader> There are allways lots of ways ;)
[10:36] <Skyrider> either way, using install kodi to see if it works.
[10:53] <molgrum> lordievader: should the git username be the same as the username on the machine? or can i just pick anything at all
[10:53] <lordievader> Git username?
[10:53] <molgrum> yeah
[10:53] <lordievader> What are you talking about?
[10:53] <molgrum> git config --global user.name "NewUser"
[10:54] <molgrum> on the Pi
[10:54] <lordievader> molgrum: Read the documentation ;) That is the name you want to commit as, usually your full name.
[10:54] <molgrum> aah
[10:54] <lordievader> It is not a username it is the name of the user.
[10:54] <molgrum> i see now, thx
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[12:32] <molgrum> lordievader: if i do a folder in /var/www, won't nginx overwrite it if i get an update?
[12:33] <molgrum> or it keeps its html in /usr/share?
[12:33] <molgrum> i'm guessing the latter
[12:33] <lordievader> Nginx has nothing to do in /var/www, it only has to serve files from there.
[12:34] <molgrum> i asked in the nginx channel, they said it would be overwritten if i do it in /usr/share/nginx/www/html
[12:34] <lordievader> Hmm, then Nginx works differently from Apache.
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[12:35] <molgrum> yes
[12:35] <molgrum> or no
[12:35] <molgrum> i see it created a page in /var/www/html
[12:36] <lordievader> /var/www is the default folder for serving web pages.
[12:36] <molgrum> yeah
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[12:42] <molgrum> yes, i see now in /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/default that it uses /var/www
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[13:46] <molgrum> lordievader: hmm i'm wondering, what name i should use... i'm gonna change my domain name (after some thoroughly thinking) so using it now as /var/www/domain.st feels kinda stupid
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[14:07] <diederik> molgrum: maybe this helps (in your nginx configuration): http://paste.debian.net/261595/
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[14:11] <diederik> I personally like to store my own websites in /opt/web/ ...
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[14:17] <Skyrider> Is there any easy way for me to share my debian's HDD with windows?
[14:17] <Skyrider> local network btw
[14:25] <diederik> Skyrider: afaik Samba is the way to do that (don't know how to configure it since I haven't used it in a very long time)
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[14:32] <Skyrider> Thanks
[14:32] <Skyrider> found a simple config online
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[14:36] <molgrum> diederik: hmm, root is /usr/share?
[14:37] <molgrum> i also thought about /opt
[14:37] <diederik> Yeah, not particularly happy about that
[14:37] <diederik> I don't have much experience with nginx, but I did get it to work with owncloud with the config I posted
[14:38] <molgrum> okay
[14:41] <diederik> it was more meant as a way to not store it in /var/www/ then a perfect example on how to do things. Storing a file in /etc/nginx/conf.d/ works really well (and I use sth similar in apache)
[14:44] <molgrum> diederik: do i need another nginc.conf you mean?
[14:45] <molgrum> with another useer?
[14:45] <molgrum> -e
[14:45] <molgrum> :)
[14:46] <diederik> no, that's the beauty of it, you can (iirc) leave the nginx.conf as is and put your own configuration files in the /etc/nginx/conf.d/ directory
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[14:48] <molgrum> diederik: sure, just don't know what i want to change. the default seems fine :)
[14:49] <diederik> then go with that :)
[14:51] <Skyrider> meh, kodi installation appears to work
[14:51] <Skyrider> but when I run an ISO file.. black screen, instantly.
[14:51] <diederik> when you store your files/website in /var/www you don't have to configure anything. It's easy, but I prefer to store my own things at a different place (/opt/web/) and then you do need to configure some things.
[14:51] <Skyrider> nothing appears to react.. though shell still works.
[14:52] <molgrum> diederik: /opt/web can be set in sites-enabled :)
[14:52] <molgrum> i think
[14:53] <diederik> wouldn't surprise me. Lots of ways/flexibility to configure things ;)
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[15:04] <molgrum> ah, i mean sites-available
[15:04] <molgrum> sites-enabled contains symlinks to sites that you want to enable
[15:04] <molgrum> learning in #nginx
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[15:06] <at0m|c> molgrum: try to learn from man nginx. then from web search. then irc.
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[15:12] <molgrum> imo the docs are not clear regarding the sites-available/sites-enabled part
[15:12] <molgrum> but i might have missed something
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[15:20] <at0m|c> they don't seem to be clear on anything. i'm trying to explain how to learn.
[15:20] <molgrum> hehe
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[15:26] <molgrum> lordievader: the git user on my remote, should he have sudo rights and change my remote repo to root.root? or user.user?
[15:27] <molgrum> he needs sudo rights to create the dirs so i guess i'm answering my own question
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[15:32] <molgrum> i'll fiddle around a bit in them eantime
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[15:53] <molgrum> anyone here? trying to figure out what chown i should set for the git deployment...
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[15:54] <dougl> molgrum, yes
[15:54] <molgrum> dougl: should the repo be owned by a user, and the deployment directory by root?
[15:55] <dougl> sorry was just saying I was here... will google once I get my internet working if you have not resolved
[15:55] <molgrum> dougl: oh okay, thanks for helping out :)
[15:56] <molgrum> as it is now, everything is root.root
[15:56] <molgrum> but: git remote add live ssh://user@mydomain.com/var/repo/site.git
[15:56] <molgrum> i assume user needs to own the repo
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[16:05] <molgrum> <molgrum> should a remote repo be owned by root.root?
[16:05] <molgrum> <_ikke_> no
[16:05] <molgrum> <molgrum> regular user then
[16:05] <molgrum> <_ikke_> yes
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[16:05] <molgrum> if anyone finds that info useful :P
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[16:07] <labcoattech> hi all
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[16:13] <lordievader> molgrum: Or you simply own the website.
[16:13] <molgrum> lordievader: gonna try to do a commit + push now
[16:14] <molgrum> the deploy directory is root.root
[16:14] <lordievader> For me all my repo's are mine, unless there is good reason to do it otherwise.
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[16:17] <diederik> the permission on /var/www was also a reason I suggested to put it somewhere else ;)
[16:17] <lordievader> Those can be changed...
[16:17] <molgrum> permission denied
[16:17] <lordievader> As long as nginx/apache has read/execute rights it is fine.
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[16:18] <molgrum> hmm, how do i go back one step now...
[16:19] <molgrum> the files are in the repo but not on the deploy dir
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[16:22] <at0m|c> molgrum: and that has to do with raspbian how?
[16:22] <molgrum> sorry, gonna ask in #git
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[16:56] <molgrum> kay, got a git deployment all setup now :)
[16:57] <molgrum> time to code some HTML and stuff
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[18:33] <molgrum> can nginx-light handle git http backend?
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[18:35] <lordievader> I suppose. But why not use ssh?
[18:36] <molgrum> lordievader: my DNS only allows port 80
[18:36] <molgrum> it's very lame
[18:36] <lordievader> You mean your isp?
[18:36] <molgrum> yeah
[18:37] <molgrum> i got a free DNS, but only for port 80
[18:37] <lordievader> DNS has nothing to do with this.
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[18:42] <molgrum> lordievader: don't quite follow you but ok :)
[18:44] <molgrum> good to know it can handle it
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[18:50] <lordievader> DNS does name resolution -> www.google.com to some ip. What ports are allowed DNS doesn't care about.
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[18:54] <molgrum> lordievader: actually, if i ping my domain, it points to another IP than mine
[18:54] <lordievader> That is odd.
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[18:54] <molgrum> and i talked with the support, they said "yes it's only port 80"
[18:55] <lordievader> Then it is not DNS.
[18:55] <molgrum> yeah i was like wtf..
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[19:04] <symple> they must be talking about the egress port(s) allowed
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[19:05] <lordievader> Likely, yes.
[19:05] <symple> captive portal software is really nice..for the provider
[19:05] <plugwash> sounds like it's a forwarding service of some sort
[19:06] <plugwash> can be useful sometimes, e.g. if your ISP blocks port 80 inbound then you can use a forwarding service to forward stuff to another port
[19:06] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
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[19:08] <lordievader> o/
[19:09] <MDTech-us_MAN> I have a Raspberry Pi B. I want to connect to WiFi using a TEW-649UB WiFi stick. I put it in and after downloading the linux-firmware package, and installing, it recognizes the stick but it just does not see any networks
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[19:10] <MDTech-us_MAN> it just says disconnected
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[19:17] <heller_> MDTech-us_MAN: how about your /etc/network/interfaces?
[19:18] <MDTech-us_MAN> I actually removed it from there
[19:18] <MDTech-us_MAN> so I could manage it with NetworkManager
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[19:23] <MDTech-us_MAN> should I put it back there? heller_
[19:24] <heller_> of course
[19:24] <heller_> http://weworkweplay.com/play/automatically-connect-a-raspberry-pi-to-a-wifi-network/ chech that
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[19:48] <MDTech-us_MAN> heller_: it worked
[19:48] <heller_> np
[19:48] <MDTech-us_MAN> thx
[19:48] <MDTech-us_MAN> ;)
[19:48] <heller_> just googled raspberry pi wlan
[19:48] <heller_> :p
[19:49] <MDTech-us_MAN> lol
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[23:26] <azlo2> hey on the images page i do not see any of your images at all. i only see a link to raspberrypi.org
[23:27] <azlo2> you mention of your raspbian images then right after that you mention raspberry pi foundation having images not supported by you. i go there and see a wheezy raspberry pi image which has TONS of errors
[23:27] <azlo2> i am running a b+ and want a debian distro
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[23:28] <diederik> you should download your image from the raspberrypi.org site
[23:28] <azlo2> i did
[23:28] <azlo2> it has mega errors on it
[23:28] <diederik> like?
[23:28] <azlo2> they only have one image and i dont know which version board it is for
[23:29] <azlo2> i have a b+
[23:29] <plugwash> we have bulit images in the past but don't have any up to date ones of our own, we leave building images and installers up to third parties (including the raspberry pi foundation)
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[23:29] <azlo2> about 200+ exec format errors
[23:29] <azlo2> on boot
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[23:29] <azlo2> alsa errors
[23:29] <azlo2> avahi-deamon errors
[23:29] <azlo2> ah ok
[23:29] <diederik> the images are for all board versions
[23:29] <azlo2> well back to the small footprint freebsd then
[23:29] <plugwash> hmm, that's not supposed to happen......
[23:30] <azlo2> which works awesome except i need packages..i cant wait for complies
[23:30] * plugwash wonders if you have a fake SD card that is smaller than it says it is
[23:30] <azlo2> compiles
[23:30] <diederik> azlo2: you could try https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst if you want a small image
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[23:31] <azlo2> ok i will try. i have about 50 8GB patriot sd's i am using
[23:31] <zars> hi. I am really dumb with linux, and i have really stupid problem. Can anybody try to explain, how to install Universal G Code Sender on raspberry pi? I have to say, i know nothing about linux. I have Ubuntu Mate running, and i suppose that i have UGS downloaded from git
[23:32] <zars> no sucsess any further
[23:32] <azlo2> hey diedrik is that a solid image? this stuff is going production
[23:32] <diederik> it's not an image, but a network installer
[23:33] <plugwash> this stuff is going production <-- then you NEED to figure out WTF is wrong
[23:33] <azlo2> plug why am i gonna figure out why an image doesnt work?
[23:33] <azlo2> i am just not gonna use it
[23:34] <plugwash> because that image works for everyone else which means there is something seriously wrong and you need to find out what that something is.
[23:34] <diederik> because it works for thousands if not millions of ppl ...
[23:34] <plugwash> otherwise you are very likely to be bitten by it again later
[23:34] <azlo2> i just told you the image doesnt say anything about what model board it is for. may be not compatible with my b+
[23:35] <azlo2> i will try re-imaging again to see
[23:35] <plugwash> It's compatible with all boards.
[23:35] <azlo2> ok good
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[23:35] <azlo2> maybe the image i dl'd was bad..let me check
[23:35] <plugwash> I suspect you may be dealing with counterfiet SD cards that lie about their capacity, put a small ammount of data on them and they look fine but try to fill them up and you get what looks like massive corruption
[23:36] <plugwash> because they simply don't have enough flash to actually store the data
[23:36] <azlo2> wow
[23:36] <azlo2> that's pretty extreme
[23:36] <azlo2> since i have 50 of them and got them from patriot and also have used them to full cap on freebsd
[23:36] <azlo2> but wer will see
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