#raspbian IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-08-31

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[2:54] <fred1807> how can I skip the dhcp discover at boot, when there is no ethernet connected?
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[3:45] <fred1807> on /etc/network/interfaces I changed from 'auto wth0" to "allow-hotplug eth0"" and it seens just fine.... Any down sides? What am I losing with that change? My Pi seens to get the dhcp lease everytime ethernet cable is inserted, but now I dont have to wait "forever" if I want to turn in on without the thernet cable
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[5:44] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[7:56] <M`vy> Morning
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[9:59] <zGrr> moin :)
[10:00] <lordievader> o/
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[11:24] <Donutttt> A quick question should a rpi display something to the monitor when booted even if no os is installed?
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[11:29] <lordievader> If there is no kernel it shows nothing.
[11:32] <Donutttt> ah ok, thanks!
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[12:30] <fred1807> HelpI need to remove the DHCPDISCOVER / auto eth0 from boot, and start it manually after.
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[12:32] <lordievader> fred1807: Set it to manual instead of dhcp?
[12:33] <fred1807> lordievader: I need the dhcp client to get a lease from the router, that is ok. But I need to disable the auto start of it from boot. And start this service manually after
[12:34] <lordievader> fred1807: Remove the auto eth0 line.
[12:34] <fred1807> lordievader: and how do I start it from cmd line when I need ?
[12:35] <lordievader> ifup eth0
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[12:44] <fred1807> lordievader: should I remove these 2 lines? (auto eth0 and iface eth0 inet dhcp)
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[12:47] <lordievader> No, just the 'auto eth0'.
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[13:41] <_mak> hi there, since I have no keyboard available I'm trying to get my brand new pi 2 running headlessly, but I can't find a way to make it skip the raspian-config screen when I boot it
[13:42] <_mak> is there a way to skip that screen and make it connect to a wifi network so I can access it via ssh?
[13:50] <BRZT> Yes
[13:50] <BRZT> Come back tomorrow when I haven't been drinking
[13:51] <_mak> A druken brain thinks better
[13:51] <BRZT> raspbian
[13:52] <_mak> all tutorials I've found assume that my pi is already connected to the wifi network
[13:52] <_mak> but I can't even tell it to connect to my wifi
[13:52] <_mak> I've created an open wifi to see if it would automatically connect, but it seems that it is not working
[13:52] <BRZT> No
[13:52] <BRZT> Not the way to do it
[13:53] <BRZT> But you will need a live CD
[13:53] <BRZT> or are you running *nix on your pc?
[13:53] <BRZT> I'm guessing not
[13:53] <_mak> well, I have it in a usb stick
[13:54] <BRZT> Boot to that
[13:54] <_mak> I've updated the raspian /etc/network/interfaces to use dhcp (it was manual before)
[13:54] <BRZT> then access the SD card for the pi
[13:54] <BRZT> sudo nano etc/network/interfaces
[13:54] <BRZT> or pico w/e
[13:54] <BRZT> Configure it
[13:54] <BRZT> enable SSH
[13:55] <BRZT> and you are done!
[13:55] <_mak> so I need to input my network right into the interfaces
[13:55] <_mak> I see
[13:55] <_mak> I thought that changing it to dhcp would make it auto connect to my open network
[13:55] <BRZT> Maybe
[13:56] <BRZT> I don't use DHCP
[13:56] <BRZT> and
[13:56] <BRZT> I'm off to watch TV with SWMBO
[13:56] <_mak> cool thanks dude
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[14:14] <fred1807> lordievader: When I have auto eth0 on the interfaces, I can start my pi without ethernet cable inserted... then anytime I plug the cable, dhcp client gets a lease.. If I remove auto eth0 line, I can later plug the cable and write "ifup eth0" to get the lease OK. But I need to have automatic dhcp discover... I need to only plug the cable, and it got to work, without having to cmd ifup eth0... You may answer :leave auto eth0... But I cannot have that
[14:14] <fred1807> waiting time, how do I leave the automatic service to start after login screen ?
[14:17] <fred1807> long story short: how do I remove /etc/init.d/network from boot, and manually start it after login ?
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[14:45] <TheLostAdmin> fred1807, find the link to it in /etc/rc*.d and disable the script in/etc/rc*.d.
[14:46] <fred1807> what would be the best solution to serve 1 web page locally (1 viwer) ? nginx? simple page no php...
[14:46] <fred1807> thinking about the smaller footprint / ram / cpu
[14:47] <TheLostAdmin> fred1807, open the .html file directly with your web browser and skip the server altogether.
[14:47] <fred1807> I need to serve via port 80
[14:47] <fred1807> open my browser, enter the raspi ip, and voila
[14:48] <TheLostAdmin> you said it was locally, one viewer, and no scripts.
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[14:48] <fred1807> uh yeah, locally inside my lan
[14:49] <TheLostAdmin> in that case, your favourite web server.
[14:49] <bald_bohemian> hey everybody
[14:49] <fred1807> is nginx the lightest today?
[14:49] <fred1807> minimal
[14:50] <TheLostAdmin> no clue. I'm not that into analysing the efficiency of web servers.
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[15:00] <t3chguy> if you want something simple probably go for Python's simple web server
[15:00] <t3chguy> it has little amount of features which probably makes it lighter
[15:04] <lordievader> fred1807: There is some hotplug thing, you might want to look into that.
[15:04] <fred1807> yeah, allow-hotplug in place in auto
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[18:13] <KB3VGW> hey guys
[18:14] <Slabdabs> hey
[18:14] <KB3VGW> fighting a issue with wheezy/jessie imgs I have the wheezy and jessie raspbian no x imgs
[18:14] <KB3VGW> and I get the same issue on both is I plug in my usb soundcard it fails to get a ip on the nic
[18:15] <KB3VGW> so its not just releated to jessie
[18:15] <KB3VGW> its happening on the wheezy img also wich tells me its a usb driver issue with either the nic or the sound card'
[18:16] <KB3VGW> anyone else using usb sound cards with the and the raspi2
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[18:16] <lordievader> Or the sound card crippels the usb bus and thus the nic. (They are on the same bus)
[18:16] <KB3VGW> BTW this is on the raspi2 board
[18:16] <lordievader> I'm using a sound card with my Pi1.
[18:16] <KB3VGW> no the nic shows up still and if I run dhclient eth0 it gets a ip
[18:17] <KB3VGW> but it seems not to get a nic with the usb sound in play
[18:17] <KB3VGW> hmm
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[18:18] <KB3VGW> ok anyone here using the pi-2 willing to test
[18:18] <KB3VGW> I only have 1 usb sound card I need to get a few more for testing
[18:18] <lordievader> That is what I mean. The soundcard fills the entire bus and so there is no room for the nic anymore.
[18:19] <KB3VGW> hmmm
[18:20] <KB3VGW> well the nic and sound both show up with lsusb
[18:20] <KB3VGW> so it is loading them up. this is just fustrating
[18:21] <KB3VGW> I lost the config.txt setting for usb power
[18:21] <KB3VGW> also
[18:23] <KB3VGW> found it
[18:23] <KB3VGW> usb_max_current=1
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[18:33] <KB3VGW> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0d8c:000c C-Media Electronics, Inc. Audio Adapter
[18:33] <KB3VGW> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0424:ec00 Standard Microsystems Corp. SMSC9512/9514 Fast Ethernet Adapter
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[18:34] <KB3VGW> so this means no using usb soundcards and the usb nic at the same time on this device
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[18:45] <jakllsch> why do you say that?
[18:51] <KB3VGW> because the fact that with out usb sound the usb nic card works fine and gets a ip like it should but plugging in a usb soundcard the nic stops getting a ip
[18:51] <KB3VGW> and again this is on the raspi-2
[18:51] <KB3VGW> so this is a issue
[18:55] <jakllsch> is it a power budget issue?
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[18:55] <jakllsch> or insufficent endpoint controllers in the host controller?
[18:56] <jakllsch> there has to be a reason it doesn't work :-)
[18:56] <KB3VGW> might be endpoint issue powerbudget no as I plug in a usb gps and no issue
[18:56] <jakllsch> well, each device tells the host how much power it uses
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[18:56] <lordievader> Doesn't a soundcard draw a lot more power than a gps device?
[18:56] <jakllsch> lordievader: depends on if it has a amplifier
[18:57] <jakllsch> soundcard should use significantly less power
[18:57] <lordievader> Fair enough.
[18:57] <jakllsch> a GPS reciever has a lot of processing to do
[18:58] <KB3VGW> if the gps is plugged in and repowered it assigns the gps fine and no issues with the nic
[18:59] <KB3VGW> so its still driving me crazy
[18:59] <KB3VGW> I have the updated ing is anyone one wants to test
[18:59] <KB3VGW> http://repo.openrepeater.com/raspbian/rasbian-jessie-nox-08-22-15.img.gz
[19:00] <KB3VGW> all I did was a update on the img to jessie and then made a img
[19:00] <KB3VGW> as there is no jessie img as of yet
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[19:11] <KB3VGW> I am ordering a few more sound cards to test
[19:12] <KB3VGW> but if others can test and see it helps
[19:15] <pere> shiftplusone: any luck this weekend with making sonic-pi buildable as a deb source?
[19:18] <KB3VGW> sonic-pi ?
[19:18] <KB3VGW> building a sonic cannon
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[19:25] <pere> KB3VGW: not quite sure why your mind associated with cannon, but in reality it is a cool software synthesizer.
[19:25] <KB3VGW> ok
[19:26] <KB3VGW> always wanted to build a sonic cannon someday just for fun
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[20:07] <KB3VGW> so if anyone has time to test the img with a usb soundcard and confirm the issue and help figure a fix
[20:07] <KB3VGW> I just made a small workaround
[20:07] <KB3VGW> that basicly runs dhclient after it boots up
[20:08] <KB3VGW> but thats a ugly hack
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[20:36] <teclo-> usb soundcard ?
[20:36] <teclo-> last time I used my Raspberry Pi, it had an audio connector
[20:36] <teclo-> and it played music and sound
[20:36] <teclo-> and stuff
[20:36] <KB3VGW> we have to have audio in and out
[20:36] <KB3VGW> the onboard is audio out only on the pi-2
[20:37] <KB3VGW> so we need usb sound to have both directions
[20:39] <KB3VGW> we are working on a plug on hat board but its still in dev the first run should be done this next week for testing
[20:40] <KB3VGW> it has a wm8731 soundchip on board
[20:42] <KB3VGW> our current board requires the use of the usb soundcard
[20:47] <KB3VGW> so is there a way to clear up this resource issue
[20:47] <KB3VGW> on the usb
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[20:55] <KB3VGW> I need to get this issue fized
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[21:15] <steelcowboy> Hi there! Just a quick question... when I try to load the spi_bcm2708 module on my Pi it says "cannot insert module: no such device"
[21:17] <steelcowboy> Does anyone know why this happens? I don't have anything connected yet but I was getting the same issue on Arch, even with the SPI clip wired up properly and connected to the BIOS chip (I'm trying to use SPI to flash coreboot on my machine)
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[21:48] <donpi> Hi everyone, I've an USB WiFi adapter using an RT5372 chipset (according the seller). Now, because the ID Vendor and Product are not in the Driver Firmware list (https://wiki.debian.org/rt2800usb), how can I add the ID Vendor and Product of my USB to the list so that when I plug the USB it uses the driver rt2800? Thanks in advance
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[22:55] <KB3VGW> so has anyone had tome to test the issue and come up with a fix
[22:56] <KB3VGW> I am frustrated
[22:56] <KB3VGW> this raspbian issue is killing me
[22:56] <KB3VGW> dont know if its raspbian or just a usb issue
[22:57] <KB3VGW> btu I need a fix
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