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IRC Log for 2015-09-10

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[0:00] <noobian> I was starting to see stuff about virtual cards and dmix but it was very intimidating
[0:00] <at0m> yup
[0:00] <noobian> But having some understanding of the asound file seems helpful when dealing with sound
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[0:02] <shiftplusone> If you want to keep your sanity, never try to configure alsa to do anything that doesn't work out of the box
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[0:03] <shiftplusone> Linux audio is.... fun
[0:03] <noobian> haha yeah that got it to work like instantly
[0:03] <noobian> thanks for the tip
[0:03] <noobian> I'm a music nerd so it seems like a critical thing to know even if its not the funnest thing to setup :)
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[0:06] <noobian> nice pulse audio even figured out how to get the alsamixer to have a volume
[0:06] <noobian> that is great
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[0:09] <at0m> noobian: apt show mpd, for a music player that plays all and can be controlled from anywhere
[0:09] <at0m> i made these 3 easy scripts cos i keep forgetting the numbers for switching analog, hdmi ;p https://pastee.org/dhnt8
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[7:28] <samek> hello
[7:29] <samek> if i compile my own custom kernel from mainline 4.2, will it work? or to ask the other way: how much of the code is in mainline kernel?
[7:31] <shiftplusone> You should treat them as two different kernels. There's some shared code, but a lot of the upstream stuff was written independently.
[7:32] <at0m> samek: 4.1.0 is in testing, if that's enough. you can just dl the .deb and dpkg -i it
[7:32] <shiftplusone> so there are two sets of drivers
[7:33] <samek> okey, that doesn't sound too good. i'm trying to compile _generic_ kernel for rpi 2b and banana pi
[7:33] <samek> what are the main areas where the code is not shared?
[7:34] <shiftplusone> no idea, I only use the foundation kernel.
[7:36] <samek> doh, there are so many kernel sources, it's very hard to say what's what if you're not a kernel developer :)
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[7:36] <shiftplusone> and even when you are
[7:44] <M`vy> morning here
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[8:22] <eeguy> Guys, can someone recommend a way to run a real-time plotting window without starting x server?
[8:23] <eeguy> Or alternatively, suggest some plotting software that doesnt lag? I tried running some pyqtgraph examples and they are incredibly slow
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[8:44] <lordievader> Something curses based I guess?
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[9:49] <zGrr> moin :)
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[10:32] <Encrypt> Hi o/
[10:32] <Encrypt> 314 users! This is a sign! :D
[10:32] <Encrypt> So, I'm trying to set a GSM gateway with my Raspberry Pi running raspbian, asterisk and a Huawei E160 modem
[10:33] <Encrypt> When I call or when somebody calls me, the usb modem gets disconnected.
[10:33] <Encrypt> When this happens, dmesg shows:
[10:33] <Encrypt> [345540.253657] usb 1-1.5.2: USB disconnect, device number 58
[10:33] <Encrypt> [345540.253697] option1 ttyUSB1: usb_wwan_indat_callback: resubmit read urb failed. (-19) (<---- several lignes)
[10:34] <Encrypt> Do you know what could be the problem?
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[11:54] <samek> hm, referring back to my kernel question. is there a repo with kernel source for raspbian kernel package?
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[11:58] <ShorTie> ya, it's on github
[11:59] <ShorTie> diff is a good/nice tool to see what all they have changed you know
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[13:02] <KB3VGW> http://dietpi.net/
[13:02] <KB3VGW> intresting little setup
[13:02] <KB3VGW> loads on chance to grow and the menues are well done
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[13:41] <KB3VGW> ok having issues with the raspbian img and gpio pins
[13:42] <KB3VGW> Thu Sep 10 08:41:37 2015: *** ERROR: Could not open GPIO device /sys/class/gpio/gpio16/value specified in Rx1/GPIO_SQL_PIN: Permission denied
[13:42] <KB3VGW> the software setsup and tears down the gpio pins
[13:42] <KB3VGW> the pins are biing configured in tthe /sys/class/gpio/ dir
[13:45] <KB3VGW> its building the gpio pins but whay is it having issues
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[14:02] <KB3VGW> ERROR: Could not open GPIO device /sys/class/gpio/gpio/value specified in Rx1/GPIO_SQL_PIN: Permission denied
[14:02] <KB3VGW> why is it rejecting access to the pin once setup
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[14:05] <at0m> KB3VGW: what file permissions on /sys/class/gpio/gpio/value ? are you the user or in the group?
[14:07] <KB3VGW> -rw-r--r-- 1 svxlink root 4096 Sep 10 09:01 value
[14:08] <KB3VGW> its generated by svxlink
[14:09] <KB3VGW> its workig on other imgs just not raspbian
[14:09] <KB3VGW> we updated to jessie on the img
[14:09] <KB3VGW> but ti got pointed to me last night the gpio was not working
[14:12] <KB3VGW> Thu Sep 10 09:11:39 2015: *** ERROR: Could not open GPIO device /sys/class/gpio/gpio/value specified in Rx1/GPIO_SQL_PIN: Permission denied
[14:13] <KB3VGW> svxlink setsup and tears down the gpiopins
[14:13] <KB3VGW> as they are needed
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[14:15] <KB3VGW> we have a img you can download and review
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[14:26] <KB3VGW> anyone have a idea of why its rejecting connection
[14:26] <KB3VGW> everytihng else seems to be correct
[14:26] <KB3VGW> this is breaking our setup
[14:36] <KB3VGW> ERROR: Open capture audio device failed: No such file or directory
[14:36] <KB3VGW> and its a usb device
[14:36] <KB3VGW> plugged in
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[14:37] <KB3VGW> we need a working jessie img to test and fix as it seems there are a few issues
[14:37] <KB3VGW> with updating it
[14:37] <ShorTie> sure you got enough power ??
[14:38] <ShorTie> 1st thing a pi does with not enough power is shut down the usb
[14:39] <ShorTie> you using the current hack ??
[14:40] <KB3VGW> no it id it wrong got past that
[14:40] <KB3VGW> stiill fighting the gpio issue nnow
[14:40] <KB3VGW> Thu Sep 10 08:41:37 2015: *** ERROR: Could not open GPIO device /sys/class/gpio/gpio16/value specified in Rx1/GPIO_SQL_PIN: Permission denied
[14:40] <KB3VGW> its setting up the gpio pins fins
[14:41] <KB3VGW> fine
[14:41] <KB3VGW> but when it tries to acces it it fails
[14:41] <ShorTie> as root or a user ??
[14:42] <KB3VGW> -rw-r--r-- 1 svxlink root 4096 Sep 10 09:01 value
[14:43] <KB3VGW> as a user
[14:43] <KB3VGW> its failing to get access to the gpio
[14:44] <KB3VGW> Thu Sep 10 08:41:37 2015: *** ERROR: Could not open GPIO device /sys/class/gpio/gpio16/value specified in Rx1/GPIO_SQL_PIN: Permission denied
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[14:47] <ShorTie> try it as root maybe ??
[14:48] <ShorTie> i know some things in wiringPi has to be run as root
[14:48] <ShorTie> or did atleast
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[14:51] <KB3VGW> I did not install wiring pi
[14:51] <Diziet> Hi. I'm an experienced Debian developer and have been sucked into this rpi thing and want to know how I would go about submitting a package to Raspbian ? (The package is wiringPi and its build system is currently ... `special')
[14:51] <KB3VGW> how to disable if installed
[14:51] <Diziet> I don't think wiringpi really ought to go into Debian proper.
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[14:56] <KB3VGW> its there for armhf builds as its used on armhf boards so why not
[14:56] <KB3VGW> its not just a raspi thing
[14:57] <KB3VGW> there are other boards that use it
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[14:57] <KB3VGW> like the odroid boards and banapi /orangepi diff companies
[14:58] <KB3VGW> so it should be in debian proper
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[14:58] <KB3VGW> its also used wint intel mini boards
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[14:58] <KB3VGW> wint/with
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[15:00] <Diziet> KB3VGW: Err, if you say so. I confess to being no expert.
[15:01] <Diziet> Should I aim to upload to Debian then ? Obviously it is too late for jessie or wheezy. Does Raspbian backport things where they backport well ?
[15:01] <KB3VGW> its used on boards that have gpio
[15:01] <KB3VGW> pins and need a way to test
[15:01] <KB3VGW> anything that is not a custom app should go mainstream
[15:03] <Diziet> If wiringpi should go into sid, fine. I will see about that, perhaps.
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[15:06] <Diziet> KB3VGW: `wint intel mini boards'> Architecture: i386 too then ?
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[15:08] <KB3VGW> mino
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[15:08] <KB3VGW> http://www.minnowboard.org/
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[15:09] <KB3VGW> intel atom based
[15:09] <Diziet> Cor. DYK if that's amd64 too ? I guess it doesn't matter and this thing is Architecture: any then
[15:10] <KB3VGW> 64bit board
[15:10] <Diziet> KB3VGW: Lovely.
[15:10] <Diziet> Anyway, DYK what the backports policy is for raspbian ?
[15:10] <KB3VGW> 3 times the cost of a arm board like the c1
[15:13] <Diziet> I have no opinion about sbcs really. I just bought an rpi because I wanted something with a big community. I was fed up of not having a real computer with gpio.
[15:14] <Diziet> (real computer = something that will run Debian rather than some ad-hoc thing or an rtos or whatever)
[15:17] <KB3VGW> I am about to go back to my odroid units the pi is just underpowered
[15:18] <Diziet> Cor. It seems fine to me. My emacs ran fast enough...
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[15:18] <KB3VGW> the only reason I have 1 is for the project we are working on
[15:18] <Diziet> Mind you I'm not really into desktoppy stuff. I'm using it headless.
[15:18] <KB3VGW> we are headless
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[15:47] <KB3VGW> ok I am about to beat this thing to death why is this gpio issue happenign
[15:47] <KB3VGW> I mod'ed the script not to cchown it svxlink and still same issue
[15:48] <KB3VGW> also looks lke having issuws with sudo now
[15:48] <KB3VGW> trying out dietpi now
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[16:46] <diederik> Diziet: afaik there is no backports policy for raspbian, but there is stretch (but no sid)
[16:47] <diederik> if you want to have a package added to the raspbian repo, you have to ask plugwash about it as he's the ftp-master for it
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[16:49] <diederik> note that wiringpi is already available for the RPi, through the raspberrypi.org repository (http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/pool/main/w/wiringpi/)
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[16:56] <Diziet> diederik: Yes, I found it there but there's no source, perhaps because the build system is special.
[16:58] <diederik> you mean as in apt-get source doesn't work?
[17:00] <diederik> This is the official wiringpi site: http://wiringpi.com/ which also has the instructions to get the source
[17:02] <gordonDrogon> it's being worked on. soon you'll get the source from the raspbian repo. meanwhile use http://wiringpi.com/
[17:04] <KB3VGW> ok
[17:04] <KB3VGW> so
[17:04] <KB3VGW> any idea on this raspbian jessie gpio issue
[17:04] <KB3VGW> no x
[17:05] <KB3VGW> its just setting up the gpio like it does on other base debian imgs but get access denied with the gpio
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[17:28] <KB3VGW> Thu Sep 10 12:17:12 2015: *** ERROR: Could not open GPIO /sys/class/gpio/gpio23/value for writing in transmitter Tx1.
[17:28] <KB3VGW> the software sets up the gpio
[17:28] <KB3VGW> and chowns it svxlink root
[17:29] <KB3VGW> but why cant it access it
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[17:32] <KB3VGW> where are all the techs today
[17:33] <KB3VGW> that might have a idea of why this is only failing on raspbian
[17:33] <KB3VGW> the gpio issue
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[17:41] <KB3VGW> anyone with ideas of this gpio issue
[17:42] <gordonDrogon> not me. I will never be running Jessie, so I'll never know.
[17:42] <KB3VGW> why wont you run jessie
[17:42] <KB3VGW> wheezy is coming to eol
[17:42] <KB3VGW> soon
[17:43] <KB3VGW> unless they made it lts
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[18:06] <KB3VGW> ok beyond fustrated with pi
[18:07] <gordonDrogon> frankly I can't be bothered with it.
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[18:37] <KB3VGW> ?
[18:38] <KB3VGW> gpio is a issue for us
[18:38] <KB3VGW> anyone else have a Idea of what might be the issue on the gpio
[18:40] <KB3VGW> everything else seems to work jut having the gpio issue thats killing this
[18:42] <gordonDrogon> the /sys/class/gpio stuff is 100% handled by the kernel.
[18:43] <gordonDrogon> wiringPi just uses standard kernel interfaces.
[18:43] <gordonDrogon> assuming this is something you're using wiringPi with.
[18:44] <KB3VGW> no just using straight gpio not using wiring pi
[18:44] <KB3VGW> wiring pi is not even installed
[18:44] <KB3VGW> same install on straight debian no issue
[18:45] <KB3VGW> same install on debian on a c1/c1+ no issue
[18:45] <KB3VGW> pointing this to being a raspbian issue
[18:45] <gordonDrogon> ah, ok. thought you were using wiringpi.
[18:45] <KB3VGW> using the raspi2 debian ing
[18:45] <KB3VGW> no issue
[18:45] <gordonDrogon> they have a separate image now?
[18:46] <gordonDrogon> I've been a bit out of touch.
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[18:48] <KB3VGW> yes there is a img for the pi2 that is just basic debian
[18:48] <KB3VGW> and then we took the raspbian img and updated it to jessie
[18:48] <KB3VGW> we used the no-x version
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[19:22] <K-202> Hi. Is it safe to install http://docs.emlid.com/Downloads/Real-time-Linux-RPi2/ ? How can it affect Raspberry's lifetime, temperature, CPU usage, etc?
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[20:04] <KB3VGW> Thu Sep 10 14:12:37 2015: *** ERROR: Could not open GPIO device /sys/class/gpio/gpio24/value specified in Rx1/GPIO_SQL_PIN: Permission denied
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[20:04] <KB3VGW> any idea on this
[20:04] <fernfan> KB3VGW, i heard that the raspberrypi stuff can be updated to jessie but the collabora stuff which includes gpio has not yet been
[20:05] <fernfan> i don't know if there's any imcompatibility there that could cause your probelms
[20:05] <KB3VGW> ok
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[20:07] <KB3VGW> I added the new raspi2 tools
[20:07] <KB3VGW> deb [trusted=yes] https://repositories.collabora.co.uk/debian/ jessie rpi2
[20:07] <KB3VGW> deb https://repositories.collabora.co.uk/obs/debian/ jessie tools
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[20:12] <fernfan> ooh, haven't seen those
[20:17] <KB3VGW> but this right now is our only hold back
[20:17] <KB3VGW> is this gpio ossue
[20:17] <KB3VGW> and its pushing us back
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[20:26] <KB3VGW> doing a update now
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[20:29] <KB3VGW> reboot
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[21:26] <KB3VGW> http://sjoerd.luon.net/posts/2015/02/debian-jessie-on-rpi2/
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[21:42] <yjty> hi all
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[21:53] <KB3VGW> Ok I am going back to my c1 the pi needs alot of work and a faster cpu
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