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[2:26] <AHemlocksLie> Could anyone point me towards some resources on getting transmission-daemon setup on Raspbian for remote SSL connect through a client? I can get HTTPS for the web interface through lighttpd, but client applications can't use secure connections
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[3:19] <kb3vgw> hey guys where can I get the minimal headless raspbian hjessie img
[3:19] <kb3vgw> I had a link but lost it
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[3:24] <diederik> I think its stickied on the forums (raspbian section)
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[3:29] <kb3vgw> https://minibianpi.wordpress.com/ found it
[3:29] <anunnaki> anyone familiar how to fix raspbian failing to load login services?
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[3:30] <anunnaki> i upgraded to jessie following a guide on the raspberrypi page, and when i rebooted. everything loads fine except when it get to login services it fails. then the screen goes black. i cant ssh into it either
[3:31] <anunnaki> or is there a way i can get into / on the sd card by mounting it on my linux system?
[3:32] <diederik> chroot into that mount point
[3:32] <anunnaki> diederik: is it the same as chrooting into any other linux system?
[3:33] <diederik> but that's not the same as getting to / on a running system
[3:33] <diederik> yes
[3:33] <anunnaki> ok ill gice that a shot. see if thers anything i havent backed up on the pi. might just do a fresh install
[3:34] <diederik> you don't have to chroot into it to back it up ;-)
[3:34] <diederik> you do have to mount it though
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[3:37] <anunnaki> diederik: i know. i just want to see if theres anything on root that i havent saved. before i wipe the sd card
[3:38] <diederik> yep, backing up is always good :)
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[3:52] <anunnaki> i think i found a thread about the same problem
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[3:54] <anunnaki> going to try this single mode https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=94840
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[3:57] <diederik> btw, is systemd installed?
[3:57] <diederik> grr, you'd still need to login (afaik) to fix that if not
[4:02] <diederik> nvm me. forum thread looks promising
[4:18] <anunnaki> diederik: yeah i thik systemd is installed
[4:18] <diederik> why do you think that?
[4:18] <anunnaki> which seems to be the issue from what that thread is saying
[4:19] <anunnaki> diederik: i believe one of the messages that scrolled during initialization showed a systemd command.. not to mention the intialization scrolled by a lot faster than usual like how my old systemd system did
[4:19] <anunnaki> it was noticably faster than my openrc system
[4:21] <diederik> 'ls -l /sbin/init' would confirm/deny that.
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[4:45] <anunnaki> yeah its def systemd.. i added single to the end of cmdline and saw journalctl commands
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[6:03] <anunnaki> diederik: that thread fixed it
[6:04] <anunnaki> im now able to login and have my desktop back \o/
[6:05] <diederik> yeah :)
[6:09] <anunnaki> i had to remove all those packages: dbus cgmanager cgroup-bin cgroup-tools modemmanager
[6:10] <anunnaki> amd why is it i have systemd when it seems others dont?
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[6:14] <anunnaki> dont understand why it had me remove dbus.. shouldnt i reinstall all those packages now?
[6:24] <diederik> I'd surely reinstall dbus, but I don't have the cg* packages on my debian sid, systemd based system
[6:25] <diederik> systemd is the default on jessie, but if you upgrade from wheezy, you'd normally still have sysv-init (I have that on my Debian Jessie server)
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[6:48] <anunnaki> hmm
[6:48] <anunnaki> ill leave systemd for now
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[6:53] <anunnaki> only becasue i just installed it.. ill probably want to change it back in a week or so
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[8:49] <zGrr> moin :)
[8:51] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[9:50] <ozzloy> hi, i'm trying to set up octopi with wifi using http://goo.gl/ad2BTM edimax ew-7811un. wifi does not work. i can set the essid using iwconfig wlan0 essid blah, and confirm with iwconfig wlan0, but when i try to dhclient wlan0, it sits around for a while, then times out and the essid is cleared out
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[10:25] <SeeM2> ozzloy: with wifi I'm usually doing "nmcli device wifi connect SSID password PASSWORD ifname wlan0". It stores connection in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ and I don't have to worry about it anymore.
[10:26] <ozzloy> SeeM2, i'll give that a shot.
[10:29] <ozzloy> SeeM2, what package is nmcli in?
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[10:34] <ozzloy> SeeM2, i am trying network-manager
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[10:50] <gordonDrogon> dpkg -S nmcli might find it for you.
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[10:51] <ozzloy> gordonDrogon, it does not. but it's in the package network-manager
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[11:18] <gordonDrogon> I just hand-edit the config files when setting up wi-fi on a Pi. I don't use any sort of network-manager thing, but I'm a bit old-fashiond like that. I do use Wicd on my laptop though.
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[11:45] <MACScr> i havent installed rasbian yet, but is it setup to do logging to a ramdisk to limit writes to the sd card?
[11:45] <MACScr> also, does it do any type of syncing on shutdown or periodically so those logs arent logs on reboot?
[11:48] <ozzloy> i am dumb and it turned out the wifi is actually wpa, i just forgot
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[12:03] <gordonDrogon> MACScr, Linux buffers writes to block devices. and if you shutdown properly, all outstanding writes are completed.
[12:05] <gordonDrogon> MACScr, also syslog (and its variants, if using it) forced a disk write for every line written, but this is configurable.
[12:05] <MACScr> gordonDrogon: but we dont want them to write to a disk, we want them to write to a ramdisk
[12:05] <at0m> MACScr: i log most to /dev/shm, and to network rsyslog server in case of kernel oops
[12:05] <gordonDrogon> MACScr, you lose a ramdisk on a crash - you might as well turn logging off.
[12:06] <at0m> MACScr: /dev/shm/ is debian (and most linux) buit-in ramdisk
[12:06] <MACScr> gordonDrogon: of course. Syncing to a central logging server is best and what im going to do, but still want a local failure option should there be a network issue, etc
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[12:07] <gordonDrogon> just re-configure it to use /dev/shm then (or create a different ramdisk - you simple mount /dev/shm somewhere and you get another.
[12:08] <MACScr> yes, thats easy, but the sync issue to do periodic syncing of those logs to the local disk is what im struggling with doing properly
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[12:09] <at0m> and when the network goes down, you won't be able to ssh in to read /dev/shm files. maybe set a cronjob to tar to disk every so many hours? will be less writes than plain text logging, and you'll be able to retrieve the tarballs after reboot
[12:11] <MACScr> or just do syncing as i mentioned to make the whole process as native as possible when trying to troubleshoot issues locally, etc?
[12:11] <at0m> the cronjob could include condition if router ping fails, then tar /dev/shm logs
[12:11] <at0m> does your pi have a display connected to it?
[12:12] <gordonDrogon> if you use syslog, then it will flush to disk by default.
[12:12] <gordonDrogon> if you are writing your own loggin, then use fsync() after every write.
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[12:13] <MACScr> not all apps use syslog unfortunately
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[12:13] <gordonDrogon> then you're at the whim of the application.
[12:13] <MACScr> at0m: i have 8 of them and they all have a ikvm connected
[12:13] <MACScr> ipkvm
[12:14] <MACScr> i found this sweet little script http://forum.lemaker.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=9422&extra=&page=1
[12:14] <MACScr> but unfortunately i havent been able to get it to work properly
[12:15] <MACScr> unfortunately the error is just that the service failed, so not really helpful in troubleshooting it
[12:16] <gordonDrogon> what is it that you are actually trying to achieve?
[12:16] <gordonDrogon> if it's "turn Pi into NAS" then just install samba.
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[12:19] <MACScr> well i guess i have my question answered, raspbian isnt doing anything special for logging and respect for the lifespan of the sd cards. that stinks
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[12:20] <gordonDrogon> it's just Linux.
[12:20] <MACScr> right, but made for a pi
[12:20] <gordonDrogon> and if SD cards were failling left, right & centre there would be millions of posts about it. They generlaly don't.
[12:20] <MACScr> er, adapted for a pi
[12:20] <MACScr> there are a lot of posts on it
[12:20] <MACScr> and articles
[12:20] <gordonDrogon> very little adaptations for the Pi. It's really just Linux.
[12:21] <at0m> a port, rather than a mod
[12:21] <gordonDrogon> nothing to stop you using an external USB drive for data though.
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[12:21] <MACScr> both are flash memory and have limited life spans
[12:22] <gordonDrogon> spinning rust is still avalable for USB drive you know ...
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[12:23] <gordonDrogon> still.. seems like you have a real neagtive and downey attitude to all this. Good luck with whatever you find.
[12:23] <MACScr> sorry, not trying to sound mad. Just disappointed its not being addressed natively so that i do not have to figure out my own solution
[12:24] <gordonDrogon> maybe it doesn't need to be addressed...
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[12:25] <gordonDrogon> The pi is a great little device, but it's not everything to everyone.
[12:25] <gordonDrogon> you want a NAS, then build a NAS. The Pi is a great little proof of concept for NAS, but it's no substitute for the real thing.
[12:25] <MACScr> no one said anything about a nas
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[12:25] <gordonDrogon> in my office I have a few dozen Pi's - my NAS is an Intel Atom board with spinning rust.
[12:26] <gordonDrogon> that banana pi article was about building a NAS, wasn't it?
[12:26] <MACScr> i was strictly talking about the logging script
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[12:27] <gordonDrogon> what logging script?
[12:27] <gordonDrogon> there's a script that mounts a ramdisk over /var/log ...
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[12:28] <MACScr> sorry, thats what i mean, it also does the syncing on shutdown and daily to local disk
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[12:30] <gordonDrogon> so.. boot Pi - replace /var/log with ramdisk and at shutdown time copy it to real disk (SD) ?
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[12:33] <MACScr> yep, just has to copy it perfectly so that it does it after all the log writes are finished or else you are going to have missing data when it comes back on line and syncs back to the ramdisk
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[12:36] <gordonDrogon> the script appears to do that...
[12:40] <MACScr> gordonDrogon: yep, unfortunately i could never get it to work http://hastebin.com/owupukemog.bash
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[12:41] <gordonDrogon> oh yuk. grey and a grey background. do you really want me to struggle to read that?
[12:42] <gordonDrogon> anyway, personally, I think its not really worth it. Just buy good SD cards of a decent size.
[12:42] <gordonDrogon> spend your time elsewhere. I'm off to make some stollen.
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[13:56] <Kymru> does anyone know how to get this working in Raspbian? https://ghostbin.com/paste/vt5zz i get RuntimeError: Could not find firefox in your system PATH. Please specify the firefox binary location or install firefox
[13:56] <Kymru> isnt the Linux version of Firefox Iceweasel?
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[14:12] <inch> no, Iceweasel is Debian version of Firefox.
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[14:33] <Kymru> inch, very true
[14:33] <Kymru> just read the wiki
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[14:42] <DelphiWorld> yo
[14:42] <DelphiWorld> i am using a small raspbian image
[14:43] <DelphiWorld> i dont have raspi_config
[14:43] <DelphiWorld> where should i get it from
[14:43] <DelphiWorld> ok
[14:43] <DelphiWorld> done
[14:43] <DelphiWorld> :P
[14:44] <Kymru> that was quick
[14:44] <DelphiWorld> yes
[14:44] <DelphiWorld> someone helped
[14:44] <DelphiWorld> apt-get install raspi-config
[14:45] <DelphiWorld> i thought raspi_config
[14:45] <Kymru> small raspbian image, which one did you use?
[14:45] <DelphiWorld> Kymru, minibian
[14:46] <DelphiWorld> Kymru: i dont need the big official one;)
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[14:46] <Kymru> ok, might change to that i am using the main raspbian but i dont need the GUI, onle ever ssh into it
[14:46] <Kymru> only
[14:47] <yann|work> hi - is there a git repo of the gst-plugins-bad packaging, or is the .dsc the authoritative raspbian source ?
[14:50] <yann|work> am I the only one with "gst-launch-1.0 videotestsrc ! glimagesink" segfaulting ?
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[14:59] <DelphiWorld> Kymru: packing rpi with lot of gui's is shitty
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[15:05] <Kymru> DelphiWorld, yeah specially when you dont use them
[15:05] <DelphiWorld> Kymru: i wish pi do 2 images
[15:05] <DelphiWorld> a minimal and a bleading edge one
[15:06] <Kymru> DelphiWorld, which is better?
[15:07] <DelphiWorld> Kymru: minimal and a gui one
[15:07] <DelphiWorld> both are usefull, but minimal mostly used
[15:08] <Kymru> so minimal is better for privoxy, tor and znc then
[15:08] <DelphiWorld> Kymru: privoxy?
[15:09] <Kymru> http://www.privoxy.org/
[15:11] <DelphiWorld> Kymru: ... lol...
[15:11] <DelphiWorld> Kymru: i just installed tinyproxy
[15:11] <Kymru> never used that, privoxy intergrates with tor perfectly
[15:12] <DelphiWorld> Kymru: so privoxy could directly get you into tor?
[15:13] <Kymru> yeah, couple of edits with the config and it redirects through tor
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[15:15] <Kymru> my ip now - 109.157.196.15, my ip from opera going through the raspberry privoxy + tor setup 212.117.180.21
[15:16] <Kymru> back soon, got to go get the kids from school
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[16:08] <at0m> Kymru: in my repo's it's called freedombox-privoxy. chaining it additionally with polipo
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[17:52] <Thibaultmol> Hi, I saw this project: http://www.richlynch.com/2013/07/27/pi_garage_alert_1/ and would like to use it but I can't find the magnetic sensor that he is using on RS UK. Can someone help me pick the right one on the RS UK website?
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[17:53] <Thibaultmol> (I don't have much experience with raspberry pi's)
[17:54] <Thibaultmol> Sorry wrong IRC
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[18:19] <sliddis> Whats a good alternative to wordpress?
[18:20] <sliddis> for raspbian
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[22:06] <kb3vgw> hey guys
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[22:06] <kb3vgw> is there a rasbian jessie headless img
[22:07] <kb3vgw> like the nightly that is not updated to jessie yet
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[22:38] <diederik> kb3vgw: why would you like to stay on wheezy?
[22:38] <kb3vgw> we want the jessie nightly headless ing
[22:39] <diederik> you mean the official nightly is still wheezy then? (I haven't tried it)
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[22:43] <diederik> Anyway, with https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst you can install a minimal headless system. It defaults to installing wheezy, but by a simple config file with 'release=jessie' it'll install jessie.
[22:43] <diederik> it's not an image, but a network installer
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[22:45] <at0m> diederik: thanks, been looking for more ground-up install
[22:46] <diederik> have fun :)
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