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[14:33] * Topic is 'Raspbian -- Debian hard float for the Raspberry Pi: http://www.raspbian.org/ Logs at: http://plugwash.raspbian.org/logs/ looking for mirrors in asia, africa and south america if you are experiancing issues installing raspberrypi-bootloader-nokernel DO NOT REBOOT until they are sorted out'
[14:33] * Set by plugwash!~plugwash@2a02:c7f:ba13:f000:219:e3ff:fe39:a22e on Fri Jun 10 09:50:36 UTC 2016
[14:34] <methuzla> log bot lives!
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[14:41] <anarcat> hi
[14:42] <anarcat> i am getting confused by http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianInstaller
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[14:44] <methuzla> confused why?
[14:44] <anarcat> i have had a raspi for a while sitting on my desk, and i want to build a small workstation with it now
[14:44] <anarcat> it's an old think, i *think* it's a "one"
[14:44] <anarcat> it says Raspberry Pi (c) 2011 on it
[14:45] <anarcat> i am a debian developer and i am quite familiar with debian, but i am surprised to read that raspbian is based on wheezy
[14:45] <anarcat> should i just go with the official images instead?
[14:45] <methuzla> current images are jessie
[14:45] <anarcat> in raspbian?
[14:46] <methuzla> download them from here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/
[14:46] <anarcat> reading this, i see this ships wolfram and oracle crap: https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/
[14:46] <anarcat> not exactly what i wanted :)
[14:46] * anarcat shrugs
[14:46] <anarcat> i guess i can live with that for now
[14:46] <methuzla> use lite image
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[14:46] <anarcat> ack
[14:46] <anarcat> methuzla: thanks!
[14:47] <anarcat> and i just dd that on the flash card and boot it and all will be well? :p
[14:47] <anarcat> i somewhat expected the raspi to display *something* on the hdmi port out of the box, even without a flash card
[14:47] <methuzla> raspbian.org != raspberrypi.org
[14:47] <anarcat> i'm worried it's fried
[14:47] <methuzla> get images from raspberrypi.org
[14:47] <anarcat> methuzla: right, i figured that out
[14:48] <anarcat> 1 minute remaining :)
[14:48] <anarcat> well this is exciting, i haven't installed debian in ages :p
[14:48] <methuzla> sd card required to boot
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[14:48] <anarcat> i see
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[14:49] <anarcat> i'm such a newbie with those
[14:50] <ov3rmind> any had a tip abou run pipelight on raspie, very thanks
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[14:53] <anarchat> wth is up wit hthis network
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[14:55] <anarchat> gee what a mess - is this still true? http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianFAQ#Can_I_mix_packages_from_the_Debian_repositories_with_Raspbian.3F
[14:56] <Habbie> what part?
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[15:00] <anarchat> that you can't use regular armhf packages on a raspi
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[15:01] <Habbie> so
[15:01] <Habbie> if that line was written before the pi2 existed
[15:01] <Habbie> then things are definitely better now
[15:01] <Habbie> but minor incompatibilities can definitely still bite you
[15:01] <Habbie> i've moved packages from raspbian armhf to debian armhf and they installed, ran, and crashed after two seconds
[15:02] <anarchat> woot
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[15:03] <Habbie> any specific reason you ask?
[15:04] * anarchat shrugs
[15:04] <anarchat> just wanted to know if i can use regular debian repos
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[15:09] <anarchat> woot, it's booting
[15:09] <anarchat> neato
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[15:12] <anarchat> well *that's* weird
[15:12] <anarchat> when i disconnect the USB hub that was plugged in when the raspi booted, the screen turns off
[15:12] <anarchat> i have isolated that to a single USB calbe on the hub that i can unplug to turn off the screen
[15:12] <anarchat> that cable is connected to a printer
[15:13] <anarchat> go figure
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[15:16] <Medis> Hey guys, is it possible to disable fried gpio circuits?
[15:16] <anarchat> sooo weird
[15:16] <Medis> aka they are overheating the chip
[15:19] <gordonDrogon> how do you know?
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[15:19] <gordonDrogon> Medis, the best you can do is set them to inputs and remove the internal pull up/down resistors.
[15:20] <methuzla> "fried gpio circuits" = internal or external to the SOC?
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[15:21] <Medis> gordonDrogon thanks that is a lot helpfull
[15:22] <Medis> internal methuzla
[15:22] <Medis> some works, some not, burning SOC
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[15:25] <methuzla> what did you do to fry them?
[15:26] <Tibernut> I just upgraded to 7.11 on my pi 1 b+ - now my pi can't ping out to the internet (can't ping 8.8.8.8) traceroute shows that packets are being sent to the gateway but it gets dropped after that... any ideas/known issues with 7.11?
[15:27] <Medis> well nothing, I accidently moved screwdriver and it touched GPIO's
[15:27] <Tibernut> can ping stuff in the LAN
[15:27] <Medis> The RPI died for 5 mins, then it rebooted and its overheating from this time
[15:27] <gordonDrogon> it may well be beyond repair.
[15:27] <gordonDrogon> I'd disconnect all GPIO wires before you go any further too.
[15:28] <methuzla> ^^
[15:28] <gordonDrogon> input pins would normally come up in input mode anyway - exceptions being if you load the I2C & SPI drivers. Serial Tx too.
[15:29] <Medis> hmm i might try disable them
[15:30] <Medis> its like half of the gpio doesnt work
[15:31] * anarchat feels like on his first pentium :p
[15:31] <anarchat> at least the thing works
[15:31] <anarchat> thanks for the hand-holding, methuzla !
[15:31] <methuzla> Medis, does your pi function OK if you remove everything from the GPIO header?
[15:31] * anarchat apt-get install cups and xmonad
[15:32] <Medis> no it keeps overheating... i have nothing connected...
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[15:33] <anarchat> is there a more generic raspberry pi channel i should use for broader questions?
[15:33] <methuzla> might need to old yeller it
[15:33] <anarchat> nevermind :)
[15:33] <methuzla> anarchat, #raspberrypi
[15:33] <anarchat> thanks
[15:34] <ov3rmind> guys i am ttrying run netflix on chromium, so at the moment no success need silverlight, i am studing it
[15:36] <ov3rmind> any tip are welcome
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[16:27] <Fjorgynn> du
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[17:47] <Shadowhand> Hey guys. I need a bloatware-free rasbian image.
[17:47] <Shadowhand> Anyone knows where I can get my hands on such a thing?
[17:53] <methuzla> raspbian lite?
[17:53] <Shadowhand> There's such a thing?..
[17:53] <methuzla> https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/
[17:54] <Shadowhand> Oh that
[17:54] <Shadowhand> What's the difference between lite and regular
[17:54] <methuzla> bloatware
[17:54] <Shadowhand> lol
[17:54] <Shadowhand> Does it have mathematica for example
[17:54] <Shadowhand> or java, or sonic pi
[17:54] <Shadowhand> I don't need any of those.
[17:55] <methuzla> don't think so.
[17:55] <Shadowhand> I was going to go with Arch for the sheer simplicity, but for some reason it overheats my rpi3.
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[18:43] <brianx> isn't lite missing xwindows?
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[18:50] <methuzla> probably
[18:51] <brianx> that's what i thought. for most users that is probably what it is "missing"
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[21:24] <t5u> I was wondering whats the compatibility of raspbian built on rpi 1b with rpi2b, i'm getting flashing red light on rpi 2b , works fine on rpi 1b
[21:26] <t5u> I have found out that rpi 2 should be compatible with any system built on previous versions of rpi
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[21:30] <mrkramps> both pis with jessie?
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[21:34] <mrkramps> t5u, yes and please no query
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[21:36] <tsu> Im working on wheeze
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[21:52] <ov3rmind> i have two pis, one with jessie and other with freebsd
[21:56] <ov3rmind> both works fine
[21:58] <tsu> Same sdcard ?
[22:00] <ov3rmind> no
[22:00] <ov3rmind> one with 8G other with 16G
[22:01] <ov3rmind> i am thinking on buy more two card with 16G and try chromeOS
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[22:12] <tsu> Thanks
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[23:18] <brianx> pretty sure that there were no versions of wheeze that would run on the 2b or 3b. you could probably pull the /boot from jessie if you have to run wheeze.
[23:18] <th0r> brianx, I do believe I was running wheezy on my B+ and 2 before I upgraded them all
[23:19] <th0r> brianx, I also had a desktop install of wheezy running when I first started using my pi3
[23:19] <brianx> th0r: maybe you upgraded enough.
[23:20] <brianx> pretty sure there were never wheezy images for the 2 and 3.
[23:21] <th0r> brianx, actually, I still have the zip file I downloaded from raspbian. It wasn't specifically for the pi3, but it was what we were running on them all iniitially
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[23:31] <diederik> I'm quite certain that the Pi2 ran on wheezy. And I wouldn't be surprised if it would even work on the Pi3 if you upgrade the kernel + firmware
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[23:32] <diederik> But I would recommend against using wheezy at all
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[23:48] <brianx> 2015-01-31-raspbian.img was wheezy. that's the 1st release for the 2b
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