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[10:06] <joe__> I have a question. I tried to compile xbmc following the instructions at http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianXBMC but xbmc complains that it needs openGL support when I try to run it
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[10:21] <twolife> joe__: don't use /usr/bin/xbmc , it's a stupid python script that does stupid stuffs. use /usr/lib/xbmc/xbmc.bin (if i remember correctly)
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[10:25] <joe__> twolife, I tried that and it gave me an error saying it could not create the gui
[10:25] <joe__> (running it as root)
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[10:37] <twolife> joe__: how much memory did you give to the GPU ?
[10:38] <joe__> my config.txt says 32
[10:38] <joe__> gpu_mem=32
[10:38] <twolife> you need more, much more
[10:38] <joe__> whats a safe number to give it?
[10:38] <twolife> i'm running xbmc with 128 for the GPU
[10:39] <joe__> do you have the version that comes with 256 or 512 of memory?
[10:39] <twolife> 256
[10:39] <joe__> if I have the 512 should I give the gpu 256?
[10:39] <twolife> no no
[10:39] <twolife> give it 128
[10:40] <joe__> ok, let me try that. Also, do i actually need to start xbmc as root?
[10:40] <joe__> coming from a *ix background running anything as root (unless needed) seems wrong
[10:40] <twolife> you don't need, but it's much easy for testing
[10:40] <joe__> gotcha
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[11:01] <joe__> that worked, thanks :)
[11:20] <Davespice> folks, anyone here looking for a job? lives in London or Surrey, knows Microsoft Enterprise stuff? Private Message me.
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[18:25] <kenny> anyone know an easy way to fell what ABI an arm executable is compiled for?
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[18:30] <Mogwai> kenny: readelf -a executable | grep -i abi
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[18:37] <kenny> Mogwai: ty. Can you help me understand the results? ABI Version: 0, Flags: Version5 EABI, Tag_ABI_FP_{denormal,exceptions}: NEEDED, Tag_ABI_FP_number_model: IEEE 754
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[18:40] <Mogwai> kenny: All of those looks like a regular executable from the Raspbian distribution
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[18:41] <kenny> Mogwai: cool, thanks again.
[18:42] <Mogwai> kenny: You might also want to look at Tag_CPU_arch and Tag_FP_arch, at the bottom of readelf, just skip the grep
[18:43] <kenny> Tag_CPU_arch: v5TE, Tag_FP_arch not found.
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[18:45] <Mogwai> kenny: Yeah, that's a problem
[18:46] <kenny> I take it v5 won't work on v6hf?
[18:46] <Mogwai> kenny: Or I'm not sure it's unrunnable, but it seems to be compiled for ARMv5 architecture, while the rpi is ARMv6.
[18:47] <Mogwai> So if it's not running very well .. you know why :)
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[18:48] <kenny> :) It's not running at all yet, but good to know.
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[18:52] <xrq> when I try to run games such as neverball, I get an openGL error. has anyone found a fix for this?
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[18:58] <xrq> hmm, I didn't know opengl had such a long way to go http://hackaday.com/2012/07/06/opengl-on-the-raspi/
[19:04] <Mogwai> xrq: OpenGL has nowhere to go …. OpenGL ES is already working well
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[19:21] <xrq> makes sense. is openGL ES 2 included in the latest raspbian?
[19:28] <Mogwai> xrq: Yup, lives in /opt/vc/lib
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[20:37] <gulian> hello! is there a 3.6 kernel package available for raspbian yet? do you have something like testing or unstable?
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[21:04] <gulian> I think I can answer my question myself: https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/next/boot
[21:06] <Vegar> how do I update the kernel in raspbian without flashing a new image?
[21:11] <gulian> I think there is no deb package, but you can replace the kernel.img manually and copy the modules over into your rootfs. No need to reflash.
[21:11] <gulian> Vegar: ^^
[21:12] <frikinz> Good question, I'm curious, why is there no kernel nor kernel-headers debian packages for raspbian?
[21:15] <gulian> frikinz: lack of manpower "there always seems to be something more important to do." http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=25964
[21:24] <Vegar> heh
[21:24] <Vegar> dated today
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[21:25] <frikinz> gulian: I see. thanks for the link
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[23:29] <cwong2012> should i not have swap partition in order to expand the life of the sdcard?
[23:29] <cwong2012> or maybe swap and /tmp on a thumbdrive instead of the sdcard?
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