#raspbian IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2012-12-25

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[6:18] <LemLap> just gave my little brother a RPi for christmas
[6:29] <LemLap> any way to get youtube working well under raspbian
[6:29] <LemLap> installed Gnash under midori and it's unplayable
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[14:22] <sheldor> oh there is a channel, nice :)
[14:22] <sheldor> i just have a little question, is it normal that the automatic partition expansion via the boot script takes ages and doesnt show any progress at all?
[14:22] <sheldor> it only says "Performing an on-line resize of /dev/mmcblk0p2 to 760852 (4k) blocks" and shows a blinking cursor
[14:36] <sheldor> oh it just finished!
[14:37] <sheldor> (maybe you can add a progress feedback)
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[14:53] <shikamaru> sheldor: for me it was very fast
[14:54] <shikamaru> but I had a 8 GB sandisk extreme pro SD
[14:54] <shikamaru> depending on your SD size and speed it might take more or less time
[14:56] <sheldor> thanks i see shikamaru
[14:56] <sheldor> but i think some progress feedback would be nice
[14:56] <sheldor> because it appears as if it is hanging
[14:57] <sheldor> or at least some message "this can take a while"
[14:59] <shikamaru> don’t remember if it had the option, but did you check for bad blocks ? this makes it take considerably longer
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[15:00] <sheldor> i didnt
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[17:43] <_pepo_> Hi friends
[17:43] <TobiasTheViking> and enemies
[17:43] <_pepo_> I have an error:
[17:43] <_pepo_> sudo dpkg -i apt_0.9.7.7+rpi1_armhf.deb dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 5002 package 'libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0': el nombre del campo `Installed-ll' debe estar seguido por dos puntos
[17:43] <_pepo_> sorry, In more lines:
[17:43] <_pepo_> sudo dpkg -i apt_0.9.7.7+rpi1_armhf.deb
[17:44] <_pepo_> dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 5002 package 'libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0':
[17:44] <TobiasTheViking> _pepo_: i just hit that. i nuked my status file(and a few other files). though i'm not really sure that is a "good" solution. it did work for me
[17:44] <_pepo_> el nombre del campo `Installed-ll' debe estar seguido por dos puntos
[17:47] <_pepo_> How do I nuked the status file?
[17:47] <TobiasTheViking> sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/status
[17:48] <TobiasTheViking> it did reinstall a lot of crap that was already installed, after i did that.. Because it no longer knows what is installed
[17:48] <TobiasTheViking> not saying this is the correct/good solution, but what i did.
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[18:49] <FiftyThree> anyone familiar with RASPBMC?
[18:49] <TobiasTheViking> maybe try #raspbmc+
[18:49] <TobiasTheViking> ?
[18:50] <ParkerR_> FiftyThree, I have used it before
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[18:51] <FiftyThree> my question is a simple one. i've installed it, performed the reboot and it went through its motions and said it will finish reinstalling after reboot. it rebooted it self again and now its only the RASPBMC logo and has been the last 10minutes
[18:51] <FiftyThree> should i let it keep rolling out or pull the plug?
[18:52] <_ds_> Is it accessing the SD card?
[18:52] <FiftyThree> iunno what its doing
[18:52] <FiftyThree> only has the big logo
[18:52] <_ds_> ‘ACT’ LED lit?
[18:53] <FiftyThree> lemme go look
[18:53] * _ds_ would be inclined not to pull out the power cable if that's lit, but…
[18:54] <FiftyThree> flickering, with the RASBMC logo in the middle of black screen
[18:56] <_ds_> I'm not familiar with RaspBMC but if you can ssh in or open a terminal window or switch to a text console…
[18:57] <FiftyThree> can't do anything, no prompt, no mouse, nothing.....
[18:57] <FiftyThree> i mean it shouldn't take that long to "finish the install" should it?
[18:58] <_ds_> Wouldn't expect so.
[19:01] <FiftyThree> wierd
[19:02] <FiftyThree> ok so i found something
[19:02] <FiftyThree> can we c and p here or get booted for "flood"
[19:02] <FiftyThree> oh well
[19:02] <FiftyThree> 0:05 - plugged Pi in 0:16 - Rasp logo top right hand corner appears 0:30 - Rasp logo appears in middle of screen 0:56 - Screen goes blank 1:42 - Rasp logo appears in middle of screen 2:02 - XBMC
[19:03] <FiftyThree> said it takes up to 10minutes if if has to update
[19:03] <FiftyThree> oh well
[19:03] <FiftyThree> i'm going to smoke, thanks for the help DS....
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[19:11] <robehr79_> Hello, just fiddling with my new Raspberry Pi, I installed Raspbian wheezy and am confronted with two problems:
[19:12] <robehr79_> Is there a way to have X11 run faster 3D graphics? glx is installed and used, as reported by glxinfo.
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[19:13] <robehr79_> Does anyone have experience on how to make X11 faster?
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[19:18] <robehr79_> my second problem is xbmc: I compiled that (took a day), but it freezes all the time. What could have gone wrong?
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[20:00] <Mogwai> robehr79_: OpenGL is unaccelerated on the Pi. What you want is applications that use OpenGL ES.
[20:00] <robehr79_> ok this may be what i did not understand, thank you.
[20:01] <robehr79_> I want, for example, run Stellarium in xfce. What do i have to prepare for having more than 0.01 FPS?
[20:04] <Mogwai> robehr79_: Not familiar with Stellarium, but if it's only the graphics and not a shortage of CPU power then you'd either have to modify the graphics output system of the application to use OpenGL ES, or wait for someone else to do it :)
[20:05] <Mogwai> robehr79_: There's also work being done right now to accelerate the X11 graphics driver as a whole .. that might give you some extra FPS once it's done
[20:06] <Mogwai> robehr79_: As for the xbmc problem, it could be many things .. there should be an xbmc.log file that can give you some clue about what's going on
[20:06] <robehr79_> well, it's not only some extra FPS, but there's a big difference between 0.01 FPS and 25 FPS on my intel Machine and 70 FPS on my 12 year old NVidia Geforce 2.
[20:07] <robehr79_> I just deinstalled libgl1-mesa-dri and volià, the entire thing does no longer work at all. glxinfo tells me that 3d support is no longer present.
[20:08] <Mogwai> robehr79_: Yup, sounds about right
[20:08] <robehr79_> Should it be back again when installing libgles1-mesa?
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[20:09] <robehr79_> no, because libgles2-mesa was already installed. hmm.
[20:10] <Mogwai> robehr79_: no … when I said "modify the graphics output system of the application to use OpenGL ES", I didn't mean "run two apt-get commands" .. I meant modifying the actual source code for several hours :)
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[20:10] <robehr79_> yes, i really understood what you meant
[20:10] <robehr79_> I just thought that maybe I have a severe misconfig
[20:11] <Mogwai> robehr79_: Oh ok .. the OpenGL ES implementation is located in /opt/vc/lib btw .. the Pi doesn't use the mesa implementation
[20:11] <robehr79_> but quite obviously, dri is needed and I have to install it
[20:12] <robehr79_> ok, I see...
[20:12] <Mogwai> There's no DRI for us :)
[20:12] <robehr79_> but why does the installation of the DRI make Stellarium (and also glxgears, the testing program) work at all?
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[20:13] <Mogwai> robehr79_: It's basically switching to the software implementation of the Mesa GL .. thus the slowness
[20:14] <robehr79_> ah ok, but along with this switch, glx is detected at all
[20:14] <robehr79_> because it is at least emulated
[20:15] <Mogwai> Yup, most be faking the funk .. not sure exactly how that's working
[20:15] <robehr79_> is GLes not compatible to mesa?
[20:17] <robehr79_> what at all does it mean to say: Raspberry Pi does not use mesa?
[20:17] <robehr79_> Should that read: mesa cannot control the graphics chip of Raspberry Pi?
[20:18] <Mogwai> robehr79_: Nope, afaik the application has to link specifically to the gles libs in /opt/vc/lib to get the hardware goodies .. linking to the mesa gles libs would get you nothing
[20:18] <Mogwai> robehr79_: Yes, I suppose that's what it means
[20:19] <robehr79_> hm... may it would be nice to port mesa to be able to do that.
[20:20] <robehr79_> I think this already happened, since the libs are installed by default...
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[20:22] <robehr79_> I wonder how xbmc can be so fast when the graphics of xfce is so slowly
[20:22] <robehr79_> slow -sorry
[20:25] <Mogwai> robehr79_: Hardware accelerated dispmanx/gles graphics in XBMC <—> unaccelerated X11 drivers under xfce
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[20:26] <robehr79_> what does "<->" mean? "if and only if"?
[20:27] <Mogwai> This side <—> Other side :)
[20:28] <robehr79_> and what do i have to do to change these sides? alter kernel parameters?
[20:29] <Mogwai> …. and I'm done .. sorry robehr79_, I have to go .. erh.. feed the cat
[20:30] <robehr79_> ok nevertheless thank you for some input
[20:30] <robehr79_> bye
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[22:25] <AndChat|73761> Quick question how can I install raspi-config to rasprazor which I would have assumed was default lol
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[22:45] <frikinz> Unless I've modified my interfaces file (which I think I havent) I see that eth0 is not set to auto. How is the eth0 interface brought up then at boot?
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[23:06] <TobiasTheViking> oh my god, a werewolf
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