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[2:09] <a1will> Hello
[2:10] <a1will> anyone up for answering some newb questions?
[2:10] <a1will> been banging my head against the wall for a bit
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[2:12] <plugwash> what kind of problem are you having?
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[2:16] <a1will> ok...new to linux/debian/raspbian...learning as i go...I want to install phantomjs to my pi...am trying to figure out apt-get/ adding repo and basically the general concepts involved with all that...But the bottom line is...I have no idea how to install that program...lol
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[2:55] <ParkerR> a1will, Did you use the git repo that was provided?
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[6:47] <dsds> hi
[6:47] <dsds> do you guys use spindown?
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[7:31] <dsds> hi
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[8:02] <gsedej_work> hi! The installer (apt-get / synaptic) failed to install raspberry-bootloader (trying hard). After restarting it rpi does not boot.
[8:03] <gsedej_work> There must be some file I need to put to FAT partition
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[8:44] <linuxboy> gsedej_work: why id it fail to install?
[8:44] <gsedej_work> i was playing with some ppa (twolife.be)
[8:45] <gsedej_work> and installed raspberry-foundation-kernel (IIRC), but it somehow brake with raspberry-bootloader
[8:45] <gsedej_work> I tried to purge, dpkg configure, ...
[8:45] <twolife> mmm that's my repository , and it's supposed to work fine ^^
[8:45] <gsedej_work> but didn't help - always "sub-process error"
[8:46] <gsedej_work> I wanted to remove your repo (disable it in "sources" in synaptic)
[8:47] <gsedej_work> I had problems with sdl (coun't initialize SDL) when I tried minecraft-pi (and also other SDL apps IIRC)
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[8:49] <gsedej_work> anyway, I tried to copy orignal files from FAT partition of raspbian to FAT SD
[8:49] <gsedej_work> but still didn't boot
[8:51] <gsedej_work> twolife, is it possible to add your ppa trough "add-apt-repository" command?
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[8:52] <twolife> i have no idea, i have never used add-apt-repository
[8:53] <gsedej_work> how do you remove it and use original packages (purge)
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[14:25] <gsedej_work> how to properly upgrade raspbian? is "apt-get dist-upgrade" enough?
[14:26] <gsedej_work> I mean does this also upgrades files on FAT?
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[14:37] <ad-n770> hi, I've just start using raspbian on my pi yesterday
[14:37] <ad-n770> I've found a bug on alsa, it seem that audio with 16 bits width/depth causes noise and 100% cpu usage
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[14:38] <ad-n770> what's the appropriate place to report it?
[14:38] <ad-n770> it's easy reproducible with gst-launch-0.10 audiotestsrc ! audio/x-raw-int, width=16 ! queue ! alsasink
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[14:38] <ad-n770> after installing gstreamer and gstreamer-alsa plugins
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[14:57] <stormer> ad-n770: same on my side, usign unsided works, but real signed stream cause noise
[14:57] <ad-n770> interesting
[14:58] <ad-n770> I've just installed pulseaudio now
[14:58] <ad-n770> and using pulsesink instead of alsasink
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[15:08] <stormer> ad-n770: note I had issue with pulse audio if overclocking is enabled (which is by default on wheezy)
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[15:12] <ad-n770> stormer: which kind of issues ?
[15:13] <stormer> kernel crash, kernel hangs
[15:13] <ad-n770> oh, I'm running raspbian in it's defaults right now
[15:14] <ad-n770> so maybe I won't reproduce it
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[15:38] <wiiguy> is there a good way to install xbmc on raspbian ?
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[16:13] <s1gk1ll> wiiguy: you can find a tutorial in raspbian.org
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[16:44] <wiiguy> s1gk1ll it only shows me a guide for piscus image
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[17:33] <markedathome> does anyone know if smartmontools works at all on a pi?
[17:33] <markedathome> I get /dev/sdb: Unknown USB bridge [0x1058:0x1023 (0x2005)] for a WD Elements SE disk (ext portable usb 500GB)
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[17:49] <markedathome> hmm... it does, needs to be run as sudo smartctl -d sat -A /dev/sdb (the -d sat is important)
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[18:12] <s1gk1ll> wiiguy: maybe this can help:
[18:14] <s1gk1ll> http://michael.gorven.za.net/raspberrypi/xbmc
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[18:45] <wiiguy> s1gk1ll i will try, thanks :)
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[18:47] <s1gk1ll> wiiguy: no prob
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[19:19] <tlrmcknz> anyone able to point me in the right direction of how I'm messing up an install with rpi_installer_08-19-12.zip?
[19:20] <tlrmcknz> getting a Panic on boot = Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(179,2)
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[19:41] <tlrmcknz> well this was useful
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[19:43] <Gene1> immediate gratification is the usual culprit.
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[21:40] <ciboulette> 'modprobe usbnet' is accepted without any errors, but lsmod still doesn't list the module...why?
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[22:02] <s1gk1ll> ciboulette: did you check for any kernel message ?
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[22:04] <ciboulette> s1gk1ll: nothing in the logs...
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[22:05] <s1gk1ll> nothing shows up on dmesg when you modprobe?
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[22:06] <ciboulette> nope
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[22:19] <s1gk1ll> hmm, weird
[22:20] <s1gk1ll> without info (error probably) I have no idea whats happening
[22:23] <ciboulette> if it gives an error somewhere, it sure hides it very, very well
[22:23] <ciboulette> but now that i have googled around; is it even possible to connect two computers via usb in this way?
[22:24] <ciboulette> i thought i could do this in the same way as you setup a local network via ethernet, but i was maybe way overoptimistic here?
[22:25] <s1gk1ll> yes can use usbnet yes..
[22:25] <s1gk1ll> never tried it on rPi
[22:25] <s1gk1ll> but tried with a N900 in the past
[22:25] <ciboulette> usbnet, yes...but it seems you need some special thing plugged into the usb port to hande this?
[22:26] <s1gk1ll> hmm, guess not
[22:26] <s1gk1ll> simple usb cable should be enough
[22:26] <s1gk1ll> what are you trying to connect?
[22:26] <ciboulette> connecting an mk802 to the pi
[22:27] <s1gk1ll> the modprobe prob is on the android?
[22:27] <ciboulette> no, on the pi
[22:27] <s1gk1ll> hmm.. ok
[22:27] <ciboulette> but connecting the N900 into, say, a standard usb port on a computer works fine?
[22:28] <s1gk1ll> yes
[22:28] <ciboulette> so ok, if the Pi could stop being an idiot this *should* work
[22:28] <plugwash> I think the reason you don't see usbnet in the modules list is because it's compiled into the kernel
[22:28] <ciboulette> plugwash: then where is my usb0 interface that i was expecting?
[22:29] <plugwash> hmm, not sure maybe something else is missing, I know i've got a USB0 interface when plugging an andriod phone in USB tethering mode into a Pi
[22:29] <ciboulette> plugwash: the interface isn't visible until something is plugged in?
[22:30] <s1gk1ll> did you do 'ifconfig -a' ?
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[22:32] <ciboulette> yes, no usb there
[22:32] <plugwash> ciboulette, in general loading a module by itself won't create any representation of device(s) until/unless it finds some devices to represent
[22:33] <ciboulette> plugwash: i plugged it in, but nothing seems to have happened
[22:35] <plugwash> note that most andriod devices can appear as more than one type of USB device
[22:36] <plugwash> does this "mk802" even have a USB device port? (you can't just connect two USB host ports together, USB doesn't work that way)
[22:37] <ciboulette> plugwash: it should be capable of ethernet dongle...but there are two usb ports, maybe i have to use the other one?
[22:38] <plugwash> maybe, without knowing the specifics of your device it's hard to say but the Pi can only act as a USB host so the other end will have to act as a usb device
[22:38] <plugwash> and then present itself as a usb network adaptor which will then be detected by the Pi
[22:39] <plugwash> on my htc phone I achieve this by selecting USB mode as "usb tethering" and usb tethering type as "windows" but i've never worked with these andriod TV sticks
[22:39] <ciboulette> plugwash: hm, but in that case the htc will be providing the network...in my setup it's the other way around
[22:40] <plugwash> mmm, if the other end was a regular linux system it would be easy but I don't know if there is a way to make an andriod phone appear as a USB ethernet adaptor without trying to "own" the network
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[22:42] <ciboulette> plugwash: the intended setup is presumably where you plug an ethernet-to-usb dongle into the tv stick to connect it to a wired net, would the ethernet adapter be acting as the host in this case?
[22:42] <plugwash> No in that setup the TV stick would be acting as host
[22:42] <ciboulette> aha, which means i might have a problem here
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[22:47] <ciboulette> network oops
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[22:48] <ciboulette> plugwash: the port on the stick is marked OTG, according to wiki that means it can act as both host and device depending on what it feels like
[22:49] <plugwash> hardware wise it can but the software on the device has to decide what to do when the hardware tells it "the user has plugged a B plug in, act like a device"
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[22:51] <JimFenton> Hi...I'm getting errors from mirrordetector on a couple of pkgs that should be there like python-crypto. Known problem?
[22:51] <ciboulette> plugwash: right, the interface doesn't allow for too much tweaking
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[22:52] <plugwash> so what happens if you connect the andriod stick to the pi and do "lsusb -t" ?
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[22:56] <ciboulette> plugwash: the stick does who up there, marked as 'device' too...
[22:56] <JimFenton> Um...I meant mirrordirector, not mirrordetector
[22:57] <plugwash> does it say anything about what sort of device or what driver it's associated with?
[22:57] <plugwash> JimFenton, can you provide the exact errors?
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[22:58] <JimFenton> Err http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ wheezy/main python-crypto armhf
[22:58] <JimFenton> 2.6-2
[22:58] <JimFenton> 404 Not Found
[22:58] <JimFenton> Err http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ wheezy/main python-greenlet arm
[22:58] <JimFenton> hf 0.3.1-2.1+rpi1
[22:58] <JimFenton> 404 Not Found
[22:58] <JimFenton> plugwash: ^^ the above
[22:59] <ciboulette> plugwash: lsusb -t has two entries associated with it, one has driver=usb-storage, the other driver=
[22:59] <ciboulette> plugwash: which seems bad
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[23:00] <plugwash> well without knowing what it's supposed to show up as it's hard to say :/
[23:00] <plugwash> googling the vid/pid may or may not reveal something
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[23:03] <plugwash> JimFenton, you need to run apt-get update
[23:03] <plugwash> your package lists are out of date
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[23:04] <JimFenton> plugwash: Ah, forgot about that. Thanks!
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[23:05] <ciboulette> plugwash: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9929649/permission-attridvendor-for-usb-devices-on-linux-mint-to-use-table-mobii-prota -- the 18d1:0003 Google Inc. is what i see too, i'm not really sure what is going on in that post however
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[23:05] <zoktar> Think it could be possible to locally stream a games to a pi?
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[23:11] <ciboulette> what does the stuff in /etc/udev/rules.d/ do?
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[23:17] <markedathome> ciboulette: wow, you may need to try upper and lower case. --- that is useful </paxman>
[23:17] <markedathome> reading the page on udev
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[23:23] <ciboulette> it seems some driver is missing, but it's pretty much a mystery *which* driver
[23:26] <markedathome> I'm just reading through some archlinux pages on usbnet and android, they don't seem to be saying anything different to what you've tried
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[23:27] <markedathome> the only thing that I can think of is if you have usb debugging mode enabled or vice versa
[23:27] <ciboulette> no, apparently this "should" work of the stick just behaved nicely as a usb device
[23:27] <ciboulette> *if
[23:28] <plugwash> it will only work if the stick thinks it should behave as a network adaptor. While it could be that the "mystery device" is a network adaptor that the system can't find a driver for it's just as possible that it's something else
[23:29] <plugwash> do you have the kernel source for the andriod TV stick? if you do i'd try grepping it for the PID
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[23:31] <ciboulette> hm, no...i don't know where the sources might be found
[23:34] <ciboulette> plugwash: there is some stuff here: http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/07/20/nightly-builds-for-allwinner-a10-u-boot-linux-kernel-and-hardware-packs/
[23:34] <markedathome> > ubuntu can be found here http://liliputing.com/2012/11/developers-porting-ubuntu-linux-to-devices-with-rockchip-rk3066-processors.html
[23:34] <markedathome> that includes the mk802-ii
[23:35] <plugwash> ciboulette, is there a "connect to PC" option under settings?
[23:36] <ciboulette> plugwash: no, there is just an ethernet option
[23:39] <plugwash> is the andriod device rooted? can you get a root terminal on it?
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[23:41] <ciboulette> plugwash: hmm, i'm still trying to figure it out...i haven't managed to open a terminal yet
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[23:43] <plugwash> If you can get a root terminal on the andriod device then i'd try "modprobe g_ether"
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[23:43] <plugwash> no gaurantees though, I've never actually tried this
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[23:46] <ciboulette> plugwash: i will see what i can do...
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