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IRC Log for 2013-02-17

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[0:00] <comthre3> ooh, i can see my phone on the pi, ping google from it too
[0:01] <comthre3> everything seems to work fine, my issue is routing them packets to wlan0
[0:01] <comthre3> or to my router via lan0
[0:05] <plugwash> google linux nat router setup or something
[0:06] <plugwash> funamentally the Pi is not much different from any other linux system, iptables is iptables
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[0:47] <blockhead> hi all.. just getting going with an rpi and love the thing so far.. was wondering if anyone has any experience with disk encryption on the platform?
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[0:50] <aidalgol> Mounting my encrypted USB HD takes several seconds, but after that IO operations are of a usable speed.
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[0:50] <aidalgol> I would not recommend encrypting the SD card.
[0:50] <blockhead> gotcha
[0:50] <blockhead> yea that was what i was more thinking about
[0:50] <blockhead> i am considering using this as something i give to a customer as an appliance
[0:50] <blockhead> but my worry is them yanking and mounting the card and stealing code
[0:51] <blockhead> but there are other ways around it i suppose
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[0:51] <blockhead> just thought i might try brute forcing the whole thing with an entire encryption :)
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[0:52] <aidalgol> Stealing code from what?
[0:53] <blockhead> well basically i have some code that i've written, and ideally i wouldn't want a customer, unlikely as it is to happen, to be able to duplicate it
[0:53] <blockhead> it's php
[0:54] <blockhead> a problem a few folks have had, there are php runtime decryptors and such
[0:54] <blockhead> just find those a bit of a pain
[0:56] <aidalgol> If you want to protect your code, obfuscate it.
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[0:56] <blockhead> yea that seems to be the best way, i agree
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[14:08] <wh1p> is it possible to get an uncompilled version of this?
[14:08] <wh1p> http://www.geek101.co.nz/bakedraspberrypimod
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[14:24] <wh1p> anyone on here aware of a good script that is openly available for removing all the bloat from raspian?
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[14:47] <andrewsh> hi {*}$all
[14:48] <andrewsh> any idea why all ports may be filtered on the default Raspbian?
[14:48] <andrewsh> I can't find any iptables calls or whatever, yet pings don't work (arping works, however, and logs say the address is bound to the interface as well)
[14:49] <andrewsh> s/all ports/all incoming communications/
[14:53] <wh1p> is this a base installation that hasnt been touched or have you installed things like UFW?
[14:53] <wh1p> you sure you got the correct ip address on the device?
[14:53] <wh1p> can you ping 8.8.8.8 from your pi?
[14:53] <andrewsh> wh1p: I may try, but I have no console atm
[14:54] <andrewsh> yes, I'm sure I have the correct address
[14:54] <wh1p> can you ssh into it?
[14:54] <andrewsh> as I said, no
[14:54] <andrewsh> it doesn't respond to incoming communications
[14:55] <wh1p> have you plugged it into a tv/monitor?
[14:55] <andrewsh> it's 2012-12-16-wheezy-raspbian.img switched to ext3 with /e/n/interfaces updated.
[14:55] <andrewsh> wh1p: I have no monitor
[14:55] <wh1p> you must have a tv?
[14:55] <andrewsh> No.
[14:55] <wh1p> :? you on a laptop?
[14:55] <andrewsh> Well yes I am.
[14:56] <andrewsh> In the logs, I see it starts all the stuff and configures the interfaces
[14:56] <wh1p> have you been able to connect to it b4?
[14:56] <andrewsh> what's b4?
[14:56] <wh1p> via ssh?
[14:56] <wh1p> before
[14:56] <andrewsh> No, I said this before.
[14:57] <andrewsh> I can arping it on both interfaces, but no more.
[14:57] <andrewsh> Not even usual ICMP ping.
[14:57] <wh1p> by default does raspian have apache on it i cant remember?
[14:57] <beardy> alsamixer doesn't seem to affect the volume, is there some other method to control the volume? (analog output)
[14:57] <andrewsh> Oh, well, I see, wh1p, you can't probably help me, sorry.
[14:58] <wh1p> i can your not exactly providing much detail?
[14:58] <wh1p> you just join and say i can ping but not all else
[14:58] <beardy> wh1p: The official image does not. Just install what you want.
[14:58] <andrewsh> I have given you all the details but I see I know more things about this thing already than you do, sorry mate :)
[14:58] <wh1p> i setup my pi a while back i just couldnt remember if i manually install apache
[14:58] <andrewsh> No offence :)
[15:00] <andrewsh> Also, as I said, I *can't* ping, only arping.
[15:00] <wh1p> just wandering, when you setup a pi on the raspian image you first need to plug it into a screen and go through basic setup such as enabling ssh...did you do this?
[15:00] <andrewsh> I just wanted to know if the default image has some weird defaults.
[15:00] <andrewsh> Like, -j DROP on INPUT.
[15:00] <andrewsh> wh1p: Why do I need to plug the screen?
[15:01] <wh1p> when i last setup a pi i had to plug it into a tv to go through initial setup
[15:01] <andrewsh> Oh please, don't.
[15:01] <andrewsh> Why do you think I need the screen at all?
[15:01] <andrewsh> I don't need GUI there currently.
[15:02] <wh1p> do you ever listen :/ when you first boot a pi if you have it plugged into a screen you will get an initial termianl based setup module
[15:02] <wh1p> tbh if you don't ewant to co-operate go screw yourself
[15:02] <andrewsh> Speaking of weird defaults, there were pulseaudio installed and *no* locales-all, however.
[15:02] <beardy> If you boot from the official image it runs raspi-config, uless you memorize the keys, or kill it and start sshd blindly a monitor of some kind is easiest.
[15:02] <andrewsh> wh1p: I want to, but you're not competent enough, I'm really sorry say this directly.
[15:03] <andrewsh> beardy: it starts sshd, I see that from the logs.
[15:03] <andrewsh> it doesn't respond, however
[15:03] <andrewsh> not even to ICMP ping.
[15:03] <beardy> andrewsh: Ok. cabled ethernet or wifi?
[15:04] <andrewsh> both.
[15:04] <wh1p> right well how about this one, go access your pi and make sure there is no firewall installed on it then come back
[15:04] <beardy> andrewsh: Does any get an IP-address?
[15:04] <beardy> it*
[15:04] <andrewsh> wh1p: Bingo! I came here to ask if there's something in the defaults!
[15:04] <andrewsh> beardy: yes.
[15:04] <beardy> or heh.. no it.
[15:04] <wh1p> andrewsh
[15:04] <andrewsh> Dec 16 19:50:24 raspberrypi dhclient: bound to 192.168.0.102 -- renewal in 555721 seconds.
[15:04] <andrewsh> Dec 16 19:50:10 raspberrypi ntpd[2031]: Listen normally on 2 eth0 1.2.3.4 UDP 123
[15:04] <wh1p> no there is no firewall by deafuklt enabled
[15:05] <beardy> andrewsh: What devices are between you and the pi?
[15:05] <andrewsh> well, then something else is broken.
[15:05] <andrewsh> beardy: on eth, nothing, on wlan, I have a router
[15:05] <wh1p> andrewsh: i am assuming right now your connecting pi++
[15:05] <wh1p> andrewsh: i am assuming right now your connecting pi==>router==>laptop?
[15:05] <beardy> andrewsh: So you are directly connected on eth?
[15:06] <wh1p> or direct ethernet?
[15:06] <andrewsh> 16:05:23 < andrewsh> beardy: on eth, nothing, on wlan, I have a router
[15:06] <andrewsh> I'm trying both
[15:06] <andrewsh> in both cases ARP says there's the device with that address
[15:06] <andrewsh> but I can't go further
[15:06] <wh1p> if you log into your router and check the logs is the wifi connection authenticating and making a proper connection with the router?
[15:07] <andrewsh> No, I can't, I don't have root access there.
[15:07] <andrewsh> I see that in the rpi logs.
[15:07] <andrewsh> It *has* the address.
[15:08] <beardy> andrewsh: Is it a crossover cable? Not sure if the pi nic does crossing internally when needed. Though your other nic might.. the eth0 is configured for dhcp by default, do you provide a dcp server on "your" end on eth?
[15:08] <wh1p> i can only imagine that you not being the one manages your router, that your routewr could have firewall rules in it that are blocking your connection to the pi
[15:08] <andrewsh> argh.
[15:08] <rela> beardy: the pi nic most likely not because its not gigabit. but every gigabit hardware should have automdix
[15:09] <wh1p> i don't understand this, why can't people check all devices they are using for network related problems before assuming it's a software problem :/
[15:09] <andrewsh> wh1p: because everything's checked already.
[15:10] <wh1p> obviously not
[15:10] <andrewsh> ARP responds, as I said.
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[15:10] <andrewsh> which means... bingo!
[15:10] <wh1p> arp response means nothing :/
[15:10] <andrewsh> well then you know nothing about networking
[15:10] <andrewsh> congratulations
[15:10] <wh1p> just because the security on your network make allow arp resonses doesnt mean it's going to allow everything else
[15:10] <andrewsh> well, I expected Raspberry Pi users to be noobs, but not to this extent.
[15:10] <wh1p> im pretty sure i know a ton more about networking than you
[15:11] <andrewsh> well I see that it's not true.
[15:11] <wh1p> raspberry pi is noob freidnly when in use with a screen and a keyboard LMAO
[15:11] <wh1p> it's not made for people to just throw an sd card in and start using over the network :D
[15:11] <andrewsh> wh1p: yes, exactly! I meant you're noob.
[15:12] <beardy> It is if you know what you're doing.
[15:12] <andrewsh> wh1p: you're wrong, it's exactly how people are supposed to use such devices
[15:12] <beardy> andrewsh: You're the one asking.
[15:12] <andrewsh> ask?
[15:12] <andrewsh> and?*
[15:13] <wh1p> i'm sorry your calling me a noob when you can't be bothered to go check the rest of your network, then get access to your pi whilst booted some way or another and then you have the balls to come on here and start asking for help and reject it....you obviously have less brains than the 5 year olds that have been able to get these devices working and on the internet by themeselves
[15:13] <andrewsh> wh1p: again, network checked and works.
[15:13] <beardy> Ignore instead.
[15:13] <andrewsh> wh1p: you've not given me any help
[15:14] <andrewsh> suggesting to use monitor and keyboard isn't help
[15:14] <wh1p> how about this one want help go get a screen you can plug into your pi and diagnose from there NOOB!!!]
[15:15] <andrewsh> well well
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[15:18] <wh1p> andrewsh: can you give a copy of the logs you are reading please on pastebin.com that are stating a connnection is being made on interface eth0: and that ssh is starting properly
[15:19] <andrewsh> well, problem solved
[15:19] <andrewsh> half-solved
[15:19] <wh1p> what was it?
[15:19] <andrewsh> pings were being sent from the wrong interface of my laptop
[15:20] <andrewsh> they were sent into the OpenVPN tunnel instead of the wlan interface
[15:20] <andrewsh> so I have to check the routing table
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[15:25] <andrewsh> so, yes, one does simply plug raspberry pi into Ethernet and ssh into it.
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[15:28] <wh1p> andrewsh: have you used linux/debian before?
[15:28] <andrewsh> yes, and I'm 5 minutes to be a Debian Developer.
[15:28] <andrewsh> https://nm.debian.org/public/process/andrewsh
[15:29] <wh1p> gdgd :)
[15:29] <andrewsh> if you're interested
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[15:29] <wh1p> sorry i never accept unsigned ssl certificates
[15:29] <andrewsh> haha, very funny
[15:30] <wh1p> :D
[15:30] <andrewsh> there's no such thing as an unsigned certificate
[15:30] <andrewsh> they don't exist, really
[15:30] <andrewsh> they may be self-signed
[15:31] <andrewsh> because certificate is signed by those who have issued it, by definition
[15:32] <andrewsh> well, good luck, bye
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[15:34] <beardy> ...
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[15:37] <wh1p> and to think someone who couldn't solve a basic problem such as having their laptop connected to a vpn is joining the debian dev team :(
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