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[7:11] <beardy> http://www.beardy.se/raspberry-pi-raspbian-and-an-old-tv-with-dvi
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[9:24] <kaeso> hi all... I received a private bug report for a package of mine which has not been properly synched on raspbian armhf.
[9:24] <kaeso> can somebody point me to the proper procedure to request a binNMU?
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[9:37] <twolife> kaeso: i don't think there is a procedure other than to ping one of the 2 people behind raspbian. You can find the email address for one of them here http://wiki.debian.org/PlugWash
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[9:38] <kaeso> twolife: thanks a lot, will go that way
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[11:20] <bagarebob> Hi all, have a question i was hoping someone could answer re overclocking raspbian on the latest image. I have a Raspberry PI, B Rev1 installed with the latest Raspbian (2013-02-09-wheezy-raspbian.zip), this was downloaded from raspberry pi page and is not maintained by raspbian.org i guess but the problem i have is re overclocking and it not taking an affect, has anyone here experienced these problems?
[11:34] <gnarface> bagarebob: http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt i can't help you but this might
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[12:32] <bagarebob> gnarface: yeah, followed that one, wish it helped but it doesnt :(
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[12:35] <joat> finally! have squeezeslave running. turned out was using wrong version from sourceforge.
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[12:55] <larsgk> hi, could someone tell me if/when qt5 will be part of the official image? (or just part of the repo)
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[13:02] <Nik05> its not in the debian repo
[13:04] <Nik05> so if you want to package it for debian :)
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[13:15] <larsgk> Nik05: ok .. I found it here: http://twolife.be/raspbian/pool/main/qt5/
[13:15] <larsgk> Nik05: need to do some modifications to qtwebkit anyway... so probably have to get cross-compiling working (phew)
[13:17] <Nik05> oh so rasbian has qt5? :S
[13:18] <Nik05> no probably doesnt :P
[13:19] <larsgk> raspbian official doesn't .. but this guy has done good and made qt5 available
[13:19] <Nik05> a guy who made his own repo
[13:19] <Nik05> yeah, i thought the link was a mirror of raspbian
[13:19] <larsgk> it makes little sense to stick with qt4 for raspbian (not moving to qt5) as qt5 has all the goodies needed to make a smooth experience on RPi
[13:20] <larsgk> regardless of whatever debian has ;)
[13:20] <Nik05> compile it yourself :P
[13:21] <twolife> thoses packages works, but there seems to be a problem with mixing qt widgets & opengles , see http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=32845
[13:21] <larsgk> ..true... I am trying to get an environment made as we chat... but I am a bit out of my comfort zone cross compiling and building qt and webkit packages for rpi...
[13:21] <larsgk> trying to follow the guide for the hybrid build env on twolife.be's site
[13:22] <larsgk> nobody uses qtwidgets anymore (at least not on gles systems)
[13:22] <larsgk> qml + qt/c++
[13:23] <larsgk> qml is GLES accelerated (it seems) on RPi and runs VERY smooth on my pi ... so far
[13:23] <larsgk> qml in qt5 that is
[13:24] <twolife> yeah I use qml too, but some users keeps telling me that my packages doesn't works ^^
[13:27] <larsgk> twolife: I must thank you for saving a lot of time for me
[13:27] <larsgk> credit ++
[13:27] <larsgk> :)
[13:28] <larsgk> http://opensourcedays.org/2013/content/education-kit-built-webapps-raspberry-pi-and-arduino
[13:29] <larsgk> going to make a talk on using RPi/Qt5/Node.js to make a cheap education platform for developing countries...
[13:29] <larsgk> .. I have some issues with the qtwebkit in qt5 though - so I probably need to make my own (hence: trying to follow your steps for the hybrid cross compile)
[13:30] <larsgk> if you have the scripts to share to build the actual qt5 packages (after checking out qt, etc.) that would save me some more time .. :)
[13:32] <twolife> larsgk: everything is in the repository in the *.debian.tar.gz
[13:34] <larsgk> twolife: thanks a lot! - I'll check
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[13:43] <larsgk> twolife: I may be blind... but where approx is it in http://twolife.be/raspbian/ ?
[13:44] <twolife> larsgk: in each modules directory, ex. http://twolife.be/raspbian/pool/main/qt5/qtbase/qtbase_5.0.1-0rpi1.debian.tar.gz
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[13:56] <larsgk> twolife: thanks!
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[14:01] <elvin__> Hi, can someone help me with compiling xbmc? I get the following error when trying to build from git source. xbmc/cores/dvdplayer/DVDInputStreams/DVDInputStreams.a: member xbmc/cores/dvdplayer/DVDInputStreams/DVDInputStreams.a(DVDStateSerializer.o) in archive is not an object collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [xbmc.bin] Error 1
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[14:50] <larsgk> twolife: any reason why the qt5 packages are not included in the standard packages list? (apt-get qtwebkit -> not found) ?
[14:51] <twolife> larsgk: the package is 'libqtwebkit5' , so an simple "apt-get install libqtwebkit5" should works
[14:51] <larsgk> twolife: thanks :)
[14:52] <bagarebob> wtf, reinstalled and still cant overclock :S
[14:52] <larsgk> E: Unable to locate package libqtwebkit5
[14:52] <twolife> and "libqtwebkit5-dev" if you want the headers files
[14:52] <bagarebob> anyone had this problem with raspbian?
[14:53] <twolife> larsgk: did you add "deb http://twolife.be/raspbian/ wheezy main" in your sources.list ??
[14:53] <ParkerR> twolife, only libqtwebkit4 is in the repos
[14:53] <larsgk> twolife: I was thinking I could install qtwebkit .. then modify the sources and build qtwebkit alone
[14:53] <larsgk> the files are in the file structure .. but not in the packages list it seems
[14:54] <larsgk> I'll check the sources
[14:54] <twolife> larsgk: no, it doesn't works like that... if you want to rebuild from scratch, you will need to add "deb-src http://twolife.be/raspbian/ wheezy main" in your sources.list
[14:55] <larsgk> oh ok
[14:55] <twolife> larsgk: apt-get update && apt-get source qtwebkit && apt-get build-dep qtwebkit
[14:55] <larsgk> (I am new to building debian packages)
[14:55] <twolife> but please, please, please.. don't do that on the Pi itself
[14:56] <twolife> it will simply not works
[14:56] <twolife> you need at least 3G+ of RAM to build qtwebkit
[14:56] <larsgk> I am cross compiling (hope it works ;))
[14:56] <larsgk> I need a modification to WebView
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[14:57] <larsgk> does deb-src also need arch=...
[14:57] <twolife> nop
[14:57] <larsgk> (this is in chroot)
[14:57] <larsgk> ok
[14:58] <twolife> qtwebkit is really not the simpleast package to build ^^
[14:58] <twolife> s/simpleast/easiest/
[14:58] <larsgk> so - I was still thinking of installing all deps... then somehow fetching sources for the qtwebkit package and intercepting it before building.. applying patches and build deb (but have no clue howto.. learning by doing wrong)
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[14:59] <larsgk> twolife: I know... was working on the team making the N9 browser
[14:59] <larsgk> making the deb packages magically happened by someone elses hand ;)
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[14:59] <twolife> héhé ^^
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[15:02] <larsgk> twolife: could you tell me - what is the cmd to build the qtwebkit package from the downloaded source package after I untar/modify/tar
[15:03] <twolife> larsgk: wait a minute
[15:03] <twolife> larsgk: http://paste.debian.net/235236/
[15:04] <twolife> those are the basics steps to extract, patch & build a packages
[15:04] <larsgk> twolife: thanks a lot! :)
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[15:05] <larsgk> twolife: what is debian/patches/series?
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[15:05] <twolife> it a simple list of patches to apply before compile the code
[15:06] <twolife> you put the .diff in debian/patches/ & edit debian/patches/series
[15:07] <twolife> the current version in my repository is 5.0.1-0rpi1 , in the pastbin, you will find a link to a new version 5.0.1-0rpi2 , it's currently building on my machine; it fix a link faillure at the end of the build
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[15:07] <larsgk> aaa ok - I will just hack the code directly... I somewhat know what I want to change in QQuickWebView and making it a formal patch would mostly make sense if it didn't take 20 "wax on wax off" exercises against webkit reviewers ;)
[15:08] <larsgk> thanks for the heads up on the rpi2
[15:09] <larsgk> twolife: what I want to do "right" is the thing hacked here: https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-qt/2013-February/003483.html ...
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[15:10] <larsgk> twolife: apparently, the WebView can't respect viewport meta tag AND allow mouse events at the same time (2 different modes)
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[18:09] <Patteh> what file system does raspbian use?
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[18:10] <sney> Patteh, ext4 by default but you are offered choices in the installer
[18:11] <Patteh> okay cool
[18:11] <Patteh> trying to sort an unbootable sd card
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[20:41] <ech0s7> hi all
[20:41] <ech0s7> i would encrypt the whole root (/) partition of rpi with a password, set automatically at boot
[20:41] <ech0s7> have you any idea ?
[20:42] <vagrantc> "set automatically at boot" ?
[20:43] <ech0s7> vagrantc: for example i could run a program that return the password to decrypt the filesystem at boot
[20:44] <vagrantc> then what's the point of encrypting if it automatically decrypts it?
[20:45] <ech0s7> vagrantc: for use sd only with one raspberry, for example, the password may be the MAC address
[20:45] <ech0s7> so if you take the sd card and put it in another raspberry does not work!
[20:46] <ech0s7> and if you mount the sd into another pc, you can't read nothing...
[20:46] <ech0s7> because it is encrypted
[20:46] <vagrantc> ok.
[20:47] <ech0s7> vagrantc: any idea ?
[20:48] <vagrantc> ech0s7: do you have it working where you have to type in a password?
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[20:49] <ech0s7> no vagrantc
[20:50] <ech0s7> vagrantc: if the mac address does not unlock the filesystem, then it must not start
[20:50] <vagrantc> well, i'd recommend using luks for encryption, and playing around with the cryptsetup hooks in initramfs-tools: /usr/share/initramfs-tools
[20:54] <plugwash> note that every pi I have seen has the same ethernet OUI
[20:55] <plugwash> so only 16 million attempts would be needed to brute force the encryption
[20:57] <ech0s7> plugwash: but the password will be created according to an algorithm not invertible based on mac address
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[20:58] <plugwash> Right, what i'm saying is if you know the device is a Pi that seriously cuts down the range of mac addresses you have to try feeding through the algorithm
[20:59] <vagrantc> and if you have access to the script, you know what algorithm it's using...
[20:59] <ech0s7> yes
[20:59] <ech0s7> right
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[20:59] <ech0s7> but nothing is certain in this world
[20:59] <ech0s7> :)
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[20:59] <ech0s7> I already seems like so much this protection system
[21:00] <plugwash> though how likely is it that someone will have access to the SD card and not the corresponding Pi anyway?
[21:00] <ech0s7> plugwash: i would only prevent the copy of files on sdcard
[21:01] <ech0s7> and in any case make it more difficult, not impossible
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[21:08] <ech0s7> i could encrypt not whole filesystem
[21:08] <ech0s7> but only a directory of it
[21:08] <ech0s7> and mount it at boot...
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[21:09] <ech0s7> plugwash
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[21:19] <markedathome> is the btrfs filesystem in raspbian actually v0.19, and not 3.6/3.7? or is it the btrfs-tools package not being uptodate?
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[21:42] <plugwash> The filesystem itself is provided by the kernel so it will be whatever the kernel version you are using supplies
[21:42] <plugwash> the tools are provided by debian so they will be whatever is in debian wheezy
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[21:48] <markedathome> I'm trying to find the version number from linux/fs/btrfs/* but it seems to be stubbornly ungreppable.
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[21:49] <markedathome> plugwash: [21:48:53] <markedathome> I'm trying to find the version number from linux/fs/btrfs/* but it seems to be stubbornly ungreppable.
[21:50] <bertrik> uname -a ?
[21:50] <markedathome> Linux raspberrypi 3.6.11+ #371 PREEMPT ...
[21:51] <markedathome> it is from a src build a couple of days after the 2013-... raspbian release
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[21:53] <plugwash> I doubt the raspberry pi foundation will have messed with btrfs so it will be whatever version ships with linux 3.6.11
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[22:18] <markedathome> wow, this is hard to track down. full of useful information like version="" , kern.log = btrfs <version>
[22:19] <markedathome> https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Getting_started has debian as kernel 3.2, btrfs-tools 0.19 2011-11-05
[22:21] <markedathome> so is kernel the linux kernel, or the version of the btrfs ... ? <aahhh> I think I'll hop over to #btrfs
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[22:28] <pinion> markedathome is btrfs even included in raspbian?
[22:29] <pinion> Or did you include it and recompile the kernel?
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[22:31] <markedathome> pinion: yes.
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[22:35] <pinion> I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to do but did you see the last few posts in this thread: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=18727&p=184443
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[22:38] <markedathome> from #btrfs, paraphrased the arm tools are woefully outdated 20120328-7!! the version of btrfs is 3.6 from dec 2012. the tools need to be compiled from git as the arm updates are not included in the packaged version, and are liable to "break comprehensively"
[22:39] <pinion> Good luck
[22:39] <markedathome> pinion: I'm just trying out different filesystems, on usb drive. Have already tried zfs, which was a giggle
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[22:40] <markedathome> I need a couple more pis then I can try lustre/glustre and ceph
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[22:40] <pinion> Sounds like you know how to party ;)
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[22:41] <markedathome> got a massive 2Mb/s write on the zfs via samba...
[22:41] <markedathome> er, MB/s
[22:43] <markedathome> you know how it is, once you've tried one filesystem, you have to try them all
[22:43] <ParkerR> Naah once I try one I stick with it (if it works :P)
[22:44] <pinion> Not bad
[22:44] <pinion> ResiserFS is the only way to go
[22:44] <markedathome> that was with zfsonlinux, I tried zfs-fuse, but thatt only got 200KB/s write f
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[22:46] <markedathome> what I really want is TorrentFS, where the file system is distributed and filled using torrents. It would be easy even with the different piece sizes in torrents, but for the fact that files are concatenated together.
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[22:46] <markedathome> which breaks any ability to have multifile torrents.
[22:48] <pinion> What kind of speeds do you get out of hdparm?
[22:48] <markedathome> on which filesystem?
[22:48] <pinion> zfs
[22:49] <markedathome> just mounted the drive, what parameters?
[22:49] <pinion> sudo hdparm -t /dev/yourdisk
[22:50] <pinion> /dev/mmcblk0p1: Timing buffered disk reads: 48 MB in 3.12 seconds = 15.37 MB/sec
[22:50] <pinion> that's on stock raspbian installed this weekend to a usb stick, verB board
[22:51] <pinion> I suppose a better local test would be dding and image locally or something
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[22:51] <markedathome> thi/dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD5000BMVV-11SXZS1_WD-WX11AB0V1813:
[22:51] <markedathome> Timing buffered disk reads: 62 MB in 3.01 seconds = 20.59 MB/sec
[22:51] <markedathome> Western Digital SE, 500GB USB drive, usb interface built into drive
[22:51] <pinion> My cheap partiot stick must not be as good... ;)
[22:52] <markedathome> isn't mmcblk... the sd card?
[22:54] <markedathome> the zfs pool has compression on, dedup off, zfs volume 1, compression on dedup off, zfs volume 2 compression on dedup on
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[22:57] <markedathome> the only thing now is to find out whether the zlib_* and lzo_* kernel modules are accelerated as fast as possible, and whether the relevant sha* and fletcher* algorithms are as well
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[22:58] <pinion> Well I guess it is isn't it
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[23:11] <NoReflex> hello! I'm running Debian on Raspberry Pi and I'm trying to get sopcast to work. I got the sopclient application for Android (there is no other "generic" ARM version)
[23:12] <NoReflex> First the application (sopclient) would refuse to run (even though it was in /usr/local/bin it would say No such file or directory); with some help I managed to find out that android uses /system/bin/linker (readelf -l sopclient | grep interpreter) so I did ln -s /lib/ld-linux-armhf.so.3 /system/bin/linker
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[23:14] <ParkerR> NoReflex, You can't just run an Android build on the Pi
[23:14] <ParkerR> It has to be built for the Pi
[23:14] <NoReflex> now I get sopclient: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory which from what I can tell means it loads but can't find some library; I copied libstdc++.so from my Android phone to Raspberry Pi and put it next to the executable, set export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. but still the same error
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[23:15] <pinion> http://code.google.com/p/sopcast-player/source/checkout
[23:15] <pinion> check out the source and compile it maybe?
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[23:15] <NoReflex> ParkerR, From what I could find it should theoretically run since it is the same architecture; the only issue I think of is that my phone (Nexus S) is ARMv7 and RPi is ARMv6
[23:16] <ParkerR> Android builds link against libraries specific to Android
[23:16] <ParkerR> NoReflex, Yeah that's a no-go
[23:16] <markedathome> you are missing the following: input devices, screen management, network management, not to mention the dalvik vm
[23:18] <NoReflex> pinion, from what I can tell that project uses the binaries from the Sopcast website
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[23:19] <NoReflex> markedathome, I don't think it has anything to do with the Dalvik VM; the part I need (the actual sopcast client is written in C/C++)
[23:19] <ParkerR> You still can't just run it like that
[23:19] <NoReflex> problem is it is closed source and the communication protocol is proprietary
[23:19] <markedathome> then it is still linked against the android ndk (native development kit)
[23:21] <NoReflex> markedathome, I assumed there are some other Android libraries (.so) it needs but I was planning to identify them one by one but since it won't get pass libstdc++.so I'm stuck
[23:22] <NoReflex> the ARMv6/v7 bit is the last thing I can think of to try
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[23:24] <ParkerR> NoReflex, You are somehow going to have to find source code for the sopclient or email the main devs and requesting RPi support
[23:25] <markedathome> you are trying to do the equivalent of running a solaris for intel x64 application on a 32bit intel 486 running windows. It isn't ever going to happen except with a virtualised environment. Like in the android. SDK.
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[23:27] <NoReflex> markedathome, I don't think an older Android phone is that different from RPi
[23:28] <ParkerR> It is
[23:28] <ParkerR> Completely different hardware in most cases
[23:28] <markedathome> and that is just the arm processor
[23:29] <markedathome> linus is more than a bit miffed at the splintering of the arm codebase through the various different "architectures"
[23:30] <ParkerR> markedathome, I read that as "linux is a bit miffed..." at first XD
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[23:30] <markedathome> his fault for naming it after himself :-)
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[23:53] <pinion> ParkerR What about running Android on the pi? http://androidpi.wikia.com/wiki/Android_Pi_Wiki
[23:53] <ParkerR> pinion, Not very optimized atm
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[23:54] <ParkerR> And only Broadcom has an accelerated version that they haven't even released yet
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