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IRC Log for 2013-02-19

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[0:01] <markedathome> oops...
[0:02] <markedathome> cat /tmp/file | egrep -v ntpdate|dhclient might require ' ' else you drop the host off the network.
[0:09] <markedathome> I have an iomega home cloud with a dual core arm processor, with an i2c rtc, a pcf8635. it fills the logs with i2c-adapter i2c-0: master_xfer[0] W, addr=0x51, len=1
[0:09] <markedathome> Anyone have any ideas how to stop the log spamming?
[0:10] <markedathome> I've seen similar on the i2c with a raspberry pi, but I can't find it in google at the moment.
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[6:11] <boshaus> it shouldn't take 5+ min for the installer to format an ext3 partition on a 16gb sdcard should it? wondering if I'm hung up (first install)
[6:19] <gnarface> boshaus: uh, actually yes it would take a long time
[6:19] <gnarface> boshaus: especially over usb 1.0
[6:19] <boshaus> still running :\
[6:20] <gnarface> boshaus: if you want fast-formats on slow media you need a different filesystem than ext2/3/4
[6:20] <gnarface> i don't know if any such filesystems are supported on raspbian yet actually
[6:20] <boshaus> heh ok. used to formatting on disks where it usually only takes like 10sec
[6:21] <gnarface> well a much smaller disk on a much faster bus wouldn't be so slow
[6:21] <boshaus> just wondering if I was hung or rebooting it would just start it over
[6:21] <gnarface> you're probably gonna wish you had some sort of progress meter
[6:22] <gnarface> or reiserfs
[6:23] <boshaus> only if I wanted /killer/ performance ;)
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[6:24] <gnarface> i think xfs also does a similarly quick stile of sparse formatting
[6:24] <gnarface> and maybe btrfs too
[6:24] <gnarface> but i don't know if any of those are working on raspbian
[6:25] <nevyn> mmm butter tasty
[6:25] <gnarface> the problem with ext* is that they have to literally write the whole disk to establish the filesystem format
[6:25] <gnarface> reiserfs has better handling of the empty space than that
[6:26] <nevyn> yeah but it's deadtech.
[6:26] <gnarface> xfs isn't though
[6:26] <nevyn> it's the opposite case.
[6:26] <nevyn> it depends what you want to do?
[6:26] <gnarface> raspbian i think only has support for ext* and fat32 so its a moot point
[6:27] <nevyn> XFS for lots or many
[6:27] <nevyn> BTRFS for really cool rollback and snapshotting features
[6:27] <boshaus> zfs, I need compression and dedupe
[6:28] <boshaus> but its fine, i'll wait it out
[6:28] <SwK> dedupe on zfs on an rpi?
[6:28] <boshaus> not like i'll be formatting it again
[6:28] <boshaus> lol i'm kidding
[6:28] <SwK> heh
[6:28] <SwK> I wanted to know how you got the extra RAM in there :P
[6:29] <gnarface> boshaus: there are ext options you can change to affect the formatting speed a little, but they'll also affect things like journal redundancy
[6:29] <boshaus> yeah, its fine, not like i'm doing it a lot
[6:30] <boshaus> woot, just finished formatting
[6:30] <gnarface> that's not so bad
[6:30] <boshaus> so 2min/GB or so
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[7:38] <markedathome> SwK: boshaus: zfsonlinux works fine, around 2MB/s to 20MB/s write. Integrates nicely with samba currently running it on a 500GB external usb drive.
[7:38] <markedathome> zfs-fuse gets around a tenth of the performance, 200KB/s.
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[7:38] <markedathome> xfs and btrfs can be loaded with sudo modprobe <filesystem>
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[7:40] <markedathome> you need to tune swap, l2arc and zfs_arc_{min,max}
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[7:44] <markedathome> the above is a zfs single drive disk with dedup and compression on. about 30GB written, with a 1.11x dedup.
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[7:46] <markedathome> btrfs tools needs to be compiled from git, as the package is almost a year out of date, and has no arm specific tuning
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[9:34] <larsgk> twolife: fyi - I tried to clean/build the qtwebkit package a few times as you described... but it seems to stop at qtwebkit-5.0.1/Source/WebCore/release/libWebCore.a: member /home/lgk/test1/qtwebkit-5.0.1/Source/WebCore/release/libWebCore.a(JSSVGAnimatedEnumeration.o) in archive is not an object
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[9:35] <twolife> larsgk: i'm facing the same issue, the final link doesn't work
[9:36] <twolife> libwebcore seems to be a little bit too large for ld
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[9:37] <larsgk> twolife: oops ;)
[9:37] <twolife> larsgk: i'm testing a fix right now, but it's slow ^^
[9:38] <larsgk> twolife: what about this gold linker
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[10:04] <Zelest> farsquare? it's like foursquare, but you check-in very far away from your real location? ;)
[10:12] <FR^2> hehe
[10:12] <FR^2> just a play on words
[10:12] <FR^2> or a geek variant of my nickname
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[12:19] <larsgk> twolife: any luck on the build fix?
[12:23] <larsgk> twolife: I just hard replaced (ln) ld with gold... trying again
[12:23] <twolife> larsgk: yes ! it successfully build !
[12:23] <twolife> larsgk: you will need this 'new' http://twolife.be/raspbian/pool/test/qtwebkit_5.0.1-0rpi2.debian.tar.gz
[12:31] <larsgk> twolife: great - thanks
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[12:33] <larsgk> twolife: you mean ".../test/qt5/qtwebkit..." right?
[12:33] <twolife> no no
[12:33] <twolife> i moved the file
[12:34] <larsgk> ok
[12:34] <larsgk> what was the problem?
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[12:36] <twolife> larsgk: debugging symbols with '-g' exhausts memory. 2 solutions: 1) don't build with debugsymbol 2) use '-gstabs' instead of 'g'
[12:36] <twolife> ubuntu is using 2)
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[12:37] <twolife> so i stole their patches
[12:38] <larsgk> ;)
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[15:04] <larsgk> twolife: finally - everything seems to be built :) ... it did complain about not knowing the versions of some GLES libs - I hope it wtill works on the device
[15:04] <larsgk> twolife: thank you very much for all the help
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[15:05] <twolife> larsgk: you're talking about "dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: Can't extract name and version from library name `libGLESv2.so'" ? it's completely harmless
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[15:09] <deadalps> hello, i got a questiona about x/raspbmc.. there are instructions for building xbmc on raspbian but there isnt a package in repo. so my question is: why not?
[15:11] <deadalps> btw: those instruction do not work (anymore).. only for me?
[15:14] <twolife> deadalps: because what you will find in the official raspbian repository are "just" a rebuild from packages you will find in Debian. Same software, same version, ... The version of XBMC in debian is an old version that has no code/support for the raspberry pi. So you need to rebuild XBMC yourself (or use a 3rd party repository)
[15:17] <deadalps> ah okay, didnt know that this was debians fault.. so, which 3rd party repo could be used?
[15:19] <twolife> deadalps: http://michael.gorven.za.net/raspberrypi/xbmc is a popular repo for xbmc
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[15:47] <larsgk> twolife`: ok (gles libs)
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[17:32] <deadalps> http://privatepaste.com/959759908b am i missing something?
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[17:34] <sney> headers, it would seem
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[17:49] <deadalps> can some1 help me compiling a arm linux kernel for qemu?
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[18:41] <js1_> hi
[18:41] <Aldaron> Hi!
[18:41] <js1_> what do you guys use to spindown your idle drives?
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[19:37] <js1_> sorry for repeating, I got disconnected: what do you guys use to spindown your idle drives?
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[19:44] <markedathome> js1_: doesn't hdparm have an option to spin down?
[19:44] <js1_> it does. that's exactly what I use
[19:44] <js1_> 'hdparm -y'
[19:45] <js1_> it worked well at first, but suddenly I cannot wake up the drive
[19:45] <js1_> it usually woke up on its own when I tried accessing it
[19:46] <markedathome> some drives have aggressive spindown times, like WD Green (8s), and they get astronomical spinup counts. you can adjust using vendor tools, usually a dos iso disk
[19:46] <js1_> hmm
[19:47] <markedathome> are there any kernel errors, in /var/log/messages, syslog, kern, or dmesg?
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[19:47] <js1_> I didn't see any. let me double check
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[19:47] <markedathome> e.g., disk dropping of the usb chain
[19:48] <markedathome> you can do ls -la /dev/disk/by-id to get a list of drives and match /dev/sd<?> to drives
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[19:50] <js1_> just this: Feb 19 14:50:23 raspberrypi kernel: [ 150.302236] usb 1-1.3: reset high-speed USB device number 4 using dwc_otg
[19:51] <js1_> df hangs
[19:53] <js1_> hrm
[19:53] <js1_> quick google search shows power issues
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[19:54] <markedathome> what sort of drive and is it self powered, powered by the pi, or by a hub?
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[19:54] <js1_> its powered by the pi
[19:55] <markedathome> yeah, not going to work terribly well. my wd elements se 2.5 portable overloads the port and causes a reboot :-)
[19:55] <js1_> its a seagate [ 4.973220] scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access Seagate Backup+ BK 0409 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
[19:56] <js1_> let me try the ipad charger vs the iphone
[19:56] <markedathome> do a lsusb -v | more, and page to the device, and look at the power draw. should be 100-500mA. anything above 100mA should be powered separately.
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[19:57] <js1_> MaxPower 100mA
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[20:00] <js1_> hi
[20:00] <markedathome> interesting.
[20:01] <js1_> hmm
[20:01] <js1_> now it works I guess?
[20:01] <js1_> there's no pause when accessing the data
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[21:19] <Shinda> hello all
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[22:14] <Aldaron> hi! I left my raspbian to "apt-get upgrade", now it doesn't answer incoming ssh :(. All 5 leds are lit, LNK blinks a bit.
[22:14] <Aldaron> Any ideas why that might be?
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[22:24] <Aldaron> ahh, perhaps it installed some firmware packages and then froze :P
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