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IRC Log for 2013-02-21

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[0:31] <leonixyz> Hello, I'm using Raspbian through a composite video output, my monitor is very very small (640x480) how could I set up the xorg resolution?
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[0:35] <SStrife> composite won't give you anything bigger.
[0:35] <gnarface> leonixyz: the composite output default resolution is already 640x480
[0:36] <gnarface> leonixyz: this is useful though if you need to switch between PAL/NTSC standards: http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt
[0:36] <gnarface> leonixyz: (default is NTSC)
[0:38] <leonixyz> gnarface, I can't use any part of the system, because every new window is much larger than the screen, just a single desktop icon fits 1/4 of the screen
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[0:39] <gnarface> leonixyz: sounds like an x config issue...
[0:39] <gnarface> leonixyz: pastebin your config.txt
[0:39] <leonixyz> ok
[0:41] <gnarface> leonixyz: do you have an xorg.conf or stuff in xorg.conf.d or whatever?
[0:41] <leonixyz> no gnarface no such directories in /etc
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[0:44] <leonixyz> gnarface, give a look at my "monitor" first https://istore366.ecwid.com/product?11907862
[0:45] <leonixyz> here is my config.txt http://pastebin.com/mzHj0BrS
[0:46] <gnarface> leonixyz: Resolution: 960H x 240V ? does that mean the resolution is 960x240?
[0:47] <leonixyz> I really don't know, on the amazon link was 640x480px
[0:47] <leonixyz> i'm googling for that
[0:48] <gnarface> well that would explain a lot. also the fact you have framebuffer and overscan settings that could both interfere
[0:48] <gnarface> in your config.txt
[0:48] <gnarface> really, read this: http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt
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[0:48] <gnarface> all will become clear
[0:49] <leonixyz> ok, i think I read something similar before, but on the rpi official wiki
[0:49] <gnarface> this is the one the official wiki links to
[0:50] <gnarface> unfortunately there's nothing i've found more authoritative
[0:50] <gnarface> if you find a better one please let me know
[0:50] <leonixyz> gnarface, hdmi settings are useless if I use composite output, I'm right?
[0:51] <gnarface> also understand that xorg will in your case attempt to auto-detect and probably fail, who knows what resolution its trying. check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and you'll probably find out
[0:52] <leonixyz> I try without framebuffer settings
[0:52] <gnarface> leonixyz: hdmi settings? i don't know if they'll affect Xorg's auto-detection (though it should be easy to find out by looking at the log file i just mentioned) but i do know that it will not affect the composite output
[0:53] <leonixyz> [ 687.478] (--) FBDEV(0): Virtual size is 320x240 (pitch 320)
[0:53] <gnarface> leonixyz: i'd ditch the overscan too, until you have it all figured out
[0:53] <leonixyz> this is out of xorg log
[0:53] <gnarface> pastebin the log
[0:53] <leonixyz> ok but wait, first I try without framebuffer setting
[0:57] <gnarface> you are overclocking the shit out of that thing
[0:57] <gnarface> is it stable?
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[0:58] <leonixyz> You think is too much?
[0:58] <gnarface> i really don't know
[0:58] <leonixyz> I don't think so
[0:59] <gnarface> is it necessary to overvolt it to get it stable at that speed? i'm just curious
[1:00] <leonixyz> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9rhys6c7hacnmgo/2013-02-21%2001.58.45.jpg seems to work
[1:00] <leonixyz> I just made some overclocking with raspbian config ,... it does automatically the overvolting
[1:01] <leonixyz> i thought the framebuffer options are just for command line, but you are right, they interfer with xorg
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[1:01] <gnarface> leonixyz: its because xorg is also using the framebuffer
[1:01] <leonixyz> I'd prefer a smaller screen resolution into the command line, and a bigger in xorg, but seems to be impossible
[1:02] <SStrife> that looks alright at 320x240... at 640x480 you wouldn't be able to read anything.
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[1:02] <SStrife> afaik, Pi can only to 480 interlaced, it looks pretty bad on any screen I've tried it with
[1:02] <SStrife> on composite, obviously
[1:02] <gnarface> you can improve it significantly if you pass it through mplayer
[1:03] <gnarface> (through a framegrabber card, obviously)
[1:03] <SStrife> yeah
[1:03] <SStrife> but a HDMI screen probably costs less than a decent framegrabber
[1:04] <SStrife> DVI even
[1:04] <leonixyz> does anybody do GPIO programming? my "monitor" works with a DC12V and I've like to power it directly from the rpi
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[1:06] <leonixyz> i think it is impossible,... the rpi takes less voltage,... right?
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[1:07] <leonixyz> yes just 5 V
[1:07] <gnarface> SStrife: eh, a decent framegrabber that only needs to support *composite* can be had for as cheap as around 50$...
[1:08] <gnarface> SStrife: its the high-def framegrabbers that are expensive
[1:09] <leonixyz> thank you gnarface.... bye
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[1:13] <gnarface> SStrife: although i suppose if you don't already have an hdmi-capable display it might be worth it to get one
[1:13] <gnarface> i just wish i could wire a salvaged laptop monitor to hdmi
[1:26] <SStrife> yeah, that's my reasoning, a screen that will work with Pi and give you at least 1024x768 can be had for like $20
[1:26] <SStrife> secondhand store or whatever
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[1:36] <gnarface> as i understand it the primary issue is that those interfaces are usually proprietary and not known
[1:36] <gnarface> there could be exceptions though, specific laptop models
[1:37] <gnarface> some people have managed to successfully rip the controller card out of the laptop with the screen and just power it
[1:37] <gnarface> that's ghetto as hell though
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[2:30] <Chat0695> Hi
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[7:51] <mike_t> hello
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[7:56] <mike_t> after upgrade libc on raspbian I get problem with ld.so.cache. the same problem has already been solved in glibc. http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2013-02/msg00120.html I hope it will be solved in eglibc too
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[8:24] <jww_> Hello !
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[8:30] <Lazerdye> Hi jww_
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[8:41] <plugwash> mike_t can you please be specific about exactly what version you updated from and to?
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[8:58] <mike_t> plugwash, http://pastebin.com/6xPrPQbL
[8:58] <twolife> plugwash: i had an issue yesterday when upgrading libc6 from 2.13-37+rpi to 2.13-38+rpi1
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[9:04] <plugwash> mike_t, you say "the same problem has been solved in glibc" but when I look at your link I just see mails disussing a patch, do you know if the patch has actually been committed?
[9:06] <mike_t> plugwash, see also the bug http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15006#c26
[9:06] <plugwash> also have you rerun ldconfig since updating eglibc and if so did that make any difference?
[9:08] <mike_t> http://www.sourceware.org/git/gitweb.cgi?p=glibc.git;a=commit;h=b39949d21179bd0b08a083e4f7e35d0c98e11294
[9:08] <mike_t> yes, I rerun ldconfig. it not helps
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[9:37] <plugwash> mike_t can you run md5sum /opt/vc/lib/libvcos.so
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[9:40] <mike_t> 8bb7da46d40091720947eb67fb992799 /opt/vc/lib/libvcos.so
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[11:25] <- *Martin89* bin zur Zeit nicht da
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[13:47] <Mogwai> ParkerR: Did your Pi fix itself eventually?
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[15:55] <Viliny> hey hey
[15:55] <Viliny> my brand new rasp won't boot
[15:55] <Viliny> no video on hdmi
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[15:56] <jww_> too bad mine had same troubles.
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[17:06] <slystone> Hi!
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[17:12] <slystone> I'm stucked compiling mysecureshell on Raspbian. Could somebody please help?
[17:13] <slystone> So it went this far: http://paste.tdct.org/index.php?x4
[17:14] <slystone> http://www.debian-fr.org/mysecureshell-pour-raspbian-t41952.html ← then I've found this.
[17:15] <slystone> https://www.debian-fr.org/chroot-rssh-pour-sftp-t41967.html ← and the guy seems to have sold his problem.
[17:15] <slystone> But he does not even know how he succeded. So any advice would be more than welcome.
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[17:31] <shadeslayer> install whatever provides ACL?
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[17:46] <markedathome> libacl?
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[17:49] <markedathome> well from looking at my install packages you might want libacl1 and libacl1-dev
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[17:51] <slystone> I've made a few searches, it seems acl is missing on Raspbian. I'm install it right now, wait and see…
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[17:54] <slystone> +ing
[17:54] <markedathome> you probably want the dev packages listed to install the sys/acl.h file. I'd tell you but I've forgotten the aptitude commands to say which file is in which package
[17:57] <slystone> Hum, I've installed acl (libacl1 is included) and libacl1-dev, but it does not help. I have the same message.
[17:58] <slystone> pi@raspberrypi ~/mysecureshell_1.30 $ make all
[17:58] <slystone> Compile [SftpServer/Encode.c]
[17:58] <slystone> SftpServer/Encode.c: In function ‘EncodeACL’:
[17:58] <slystone> SftpServer/Encode.c:285:61: error: macro "FSEnumAcl" passed 5 arguments, but takes just 3
[17:58] <slystone> SftpServer/Encode.c:285:7: error: ‘FSEnumAcl’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[17:58] <slystone> SftpServer/Encode.c:285:7: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in
[17:58] <slystone> SftpServer/Encode.c: At top level:
[17:58] <slystone> SftpServer/Encode.c:222:13: warning: ‘EncodeACLCallBack’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
[17:58] <slystone> SftpServer/Encode.c:276:13: warning: ‘EncodeACL’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
[17:58] <slystone> make: *** [SftpServer/Encode.o] Erreur 1
[17:58] <slystone> Hum, I'm going out to buy a baguette before the bakery closes, I'll be back.
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[17:59] <markedathome> maybe you need to have /usr/include/sys in the include path?
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[18:20] <slystone> markedathome: could you please explain? (n00b inside)
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[18:59] <markedathome> slystone: have you got any further? according to the mysecureshell manual installation page, you also need libc6 installed
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[20:14] <plugwash> twolife`, you arround?
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[20:39] <slystone> markedathome: yes, I know and they are already installed.
[20:39] <slystone> I have not got any further. :/
[20:40] <plugwash> is anyone here suffering problems with the videocore libraries after updating to the latest libc6 packages from raspbian?
[20:41] <markedathome> usually with misbehaving libraries you can pull them in with -I/usr/include/ (that is -<capital-I>)
[20:41] <markedathome> haven't tried - do you need to be on latest wheezy first?
[20:44] <plugwash> The problem isn't when building, it's a dynamic linker problem, a couple of users reported it to me this morning but I have so far failed to reproduce it
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[20:52] <Mogwai> plugwash: twolife`, me and ParkerR all experienced it yesterday, but both twolife's and my Pis seemed to magically fix themselves
[20:53] <plugwash> did you do ANYTHING between suffering the issue and it magically fixing itself?
[20:54] <plugwash> ParkerR, is your pi still suffering from the issue?
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[20:54] <Mogwai> plugwash: Yes, I did an rpi-update and reboot .. twolife did a dpkg reconf .. ParkerR did both and was still suffering :)
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[20:55] <slystone> I'm already on Wheezy and didi update upgrade before trying to compile.
[20:55] <slystone> I could try to reboot.
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[20:57] <Mogwai> plugwash: The thing is, I kept a backup of the old /opt/vc tree from before the rpi-update, and I could even put them back without the issue appearing again, so it couldn't have been the binaries themselves
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[21:03] <slystone> Sorry, rebooting meant closing weechat.
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[21:13] <plugwash> Mogwai, what appears to be happening is that an old ld.so.cache is sticking arround despite the code that is supposed to prevent that from happening
[21:14] <plugwash> if I'm right then removing /etc/ld.so.cache and running ldconfig should fix it
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[21:14] <Mogwai> plugwash: Oh, I actually deleted the cache and recreated it with ldconfig .. didn't fix it :)
[21:14] <plugwash> :(
[21:15] <Mogwai> plugwash: Could there be any cron jobs or other scripts with delayed execution attached to the libc package upgrade?
[21:16] <plugwash> I have no idea
[21:16] <twolife> plugwash: one of the first thing i did was to remove /etc/ld.so.cache & re-run ldconfig ; it didn't fix the problem
[21:21] <twolife> there seems to be another cache file, /var/cache/ldconfig/aux-cache ; i can't say for sure if i removed it before it came back to normal
[21:23] <Mogwai> oh yeah, that could be the culprit
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[21:27] <plugwash> BINGO
[21:27] <plugwash> I can now reproduce the issue
[21:27] <twolife> \o/
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[21:28] <twolife> please tell me it's an eglibc bug
[21:29] <plugwash> if anything it's a bug in the debian maintainer scripts
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[21:30] <twolife> i have test all day long with different firmware & kernel without finding anything
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[21:30] <plugwash> extra tagging has been introduced to ld.so.cache to distinguish hardfloat and softfloat binaries, as part of that upgrade caches are supposed to be cleared and regenerated
[21:31] <plugwash> but it seems under certain conditions that doesn't happen correctly
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[21:35] <twolife> this leads to 2 question 1) wtf where the glibc maintainers thinking ? 8 months of freeze and they backport something like that ?? 2)why was that even backported to wheezy ?
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[21:36] <plugwash> It's been a horrible mess, AIUI debian implemented the tagging, then pulled it due to an identifier conflict with an unrelated feature upstream, then put it back in when they got it accepted upstream
[21:36] <plugwash> or something like that
[21:37] <plugwash> AIUI the tagging is needed for things to work properly in an armel/armhf multiarch environment or something like that
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[22:01] <plugwash> anyway a BIG thankyou for the information, i've fed it back to the debian-arm list and hopefully we can get this sorted
[22:07] <slystone> FYI, I finally managed to install mysecureshell, but with the 1.25 version, not the latest.
[22:08] <slystone> I'm hoping there is no vulnerability with this one.
[22:08] * plugwash has never heard of mysecureshell...
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[22:08] <slystone> plugwash: it's very convenient and deadly simple for sftp.
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[22:10] <slystone> plugwash: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mysecureshell/
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