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IRC Log for 2013-03-02

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[0:31] <grimjoey> anyone familiar with cross compiling raspbian?
[0:31] <grimjoey> kernel
[0:32] <grimjoey> i get stuck on not finding libstdc++.so.6 when doing "make"
[0:32] <grimjoey> following guide on elinux.org
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[2:28] <chattta> hello...
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[3:10] <plugwash> hi
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[12:39] <zyxxx> hello all
[12:40] <zyxxx> I'm trying to make raspbian kernel boting on VIA APC 8750, but when the kernel boot, I ahve a kernel panic message !
[12:40] <zyxxx> How could I identify the root cause of this message §?
[12:41] <zyxxx> Warning: unable to open an initial console. Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[12:42] <Patagonicus> zyxxx: That sounds like /dev/console is missing, try creating that and /dev/null (mknod -m 600 dev/console c 5 1 and …/null c 1 3)
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[12:43] <zyxxx> Hi Patagonicus,
[12:43] <zyxxx> DO you think that the issue with the console make the kernel panic occur ?
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[12:45] <Patagonicus> At least that's what I found when I google the panic message. And it is a reasonably assumption: the kernel needs to provide stdin/stdout/stderr for init and it needs a console for that. Although there should be a /dev/console in the raspbian / or devtmpfs should be used, I'm not sure if that includes /dev/console.
[12:48] <zyxxx> Ok, I understand, I have selected ttyS0 as console when I mae menuconfig, so why did the filesystem doesn't added the device ? Have you any idea ?
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[12:49] <zyxxx> Here is my buildroot/output/target/dev folder content :
[12:49] <zyxxx> log -> ../tmp/log
[12:49] <zyxxx> pts/
[12:50] <zyxxx> no tty1 nor ttyS0 has specify in my bootargs :(
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[13:05] <Bierdieb> hi guys. may someone give me a hint, howto install XBMC on top of raspbian wheezy? i followed a few instruction sets from installing packages to self compiling but nothing works so far.
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[13:06] <Bierdieb> iam new to linux i dont know where to start actually. on my older raspbian i managed somhow to make it work but with all the new firmware stuff and libs it doesnt work anymore.
[13:21] <rela> einem bierdieb hilft man nicht!
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[13:30] <Bierdieb> menno!
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[15:05] <zyxxx> Hi
[15:06] <rela> zyXXX
[15:06] <zyxxx> Could you tell me what must be done to populate /dev in my rootfs.cpio file
[15:06] <rela> wat?
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[15:07] <zyxxx> I'm building a raspbian image, but I have issue when kernel start
[15:07] <zyxxx> it doesn't find console
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[15:08] <zyxxx> So I look at the /dev repertory in my rootfs and nothing was created for the device console
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[15:08] <zyxxx> So something is missing during the menuconfig setup.
[15:08] <zyxxx> But I don't know what
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[15:12] <zyxxx> Is someone have an idea ?
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[15:14] <linuxboy> zyxxx: this might help: http://michael.gorven.za.net/blog/2012/10/22/building-raspbian-images-raspberry-pi
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[16:31] <Bierdieb> hi guys. may someone give me a hint, howto install XBMC on top of raspbian wheezy? i followed a few instruction sets from installing packages to self compiling but nothing works so far. iam new to linux i dont know where to start actually. on my older raspbian i managed somhow to make it work but with all the new firmware stuff and libs it doesnt work anymore.
[16:32] <Bierdieb> i already tried the michael gorven package, but it doesnt work....
[16:33] <Bierdieb> not on top of wheezy. its for a standalone if im right
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[16:38] <Bierdieb> while following the instructions for compiling there are always some unmet dependencies, which im not able to fix... i have no clue how to manage something like that, as apt-get aptitude and synaptic wont help
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[18:13] <yang_> Is current xbmc 2:12.0-1 broken ? It doesn't start through init.d ? (No picture on TV)
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[18:29] <Chat2905> hey
[18:29] <Chat2905> ny1 der?
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[20:05] <zoktar> anyone else getting. Can't exec "/tmp/libc6.config.21461": Permission denied at /usr/share/perl/5.14/IPC/Open3.pm line 186. type issues with recetlyish apt-get upgrade?
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[20:07] <zoktar> a ton of these aswell insserv: warning: script 'dbus' missing LSB tags and overrides
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[21:00] <_panzersajt> Can I update raspbian with apt-get upgrade?
[21:01] <adeus> yes
[21:02] <_panzersajt> there's some problem with my pi
[21:02] <_panzersajt> it keeps shutting down randomly
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[21:03] <_panzersajt> sometimes it lasts for days but sometimes for just a few minutes
[21:03] <_panzersajt> I use it as a samba server
[21:03] <_panzersajt> with external hdd
[21:04] <_panzersajt> powered from Y cable and 5V pin is insulated so that it wont hurt the pi
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[21:25] <gnarface> _panzersajt: you say the harddrive is powered from the pi or separately?
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[22:01] <exangel> hello, i'm having some troubles with my monitor not going into suspend properly
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[22:02] <exangel> i've tried different cables and i'm currently in a manually defined display mode but i'm going to try going back to auto-detect
[22:02] <exangel> it's an ASUS 1920x1080 DVI/HDMI display fwiw
[22:04] <exangel> the problem is that the screen will go black but the monitor won't suspend and the backlight is still illuminated
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[22:19] <exangel> hello again.. i think i've run out of things to try to get DPM suspend to work correctly :/ I haven't figured out the right search terms to find the answer with google.. can anyone help?
[22:22] <gnarface> exangel: are you disabling edid or dpms in your xorg.conf?
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[22:23] <exangel> dpms showed up as enabled in the uh, info command i ran
[22:23] <exangel> so i haven't disabled either of those things manually, the only thing i've edited so far was config.txt which is currently all autodetect except i disabled overscan
[22:25] <gnarface> sorry, i got nothing
[22:25] <exangel> the DPM settings show up in xscreensaver's configuration gui, as if they should work.. :(
[22:25] <gnarface> i can't claim i've tried to see if it works on any of my displays either
[22:26] <exangel> the screen merely goes black but does not suspend in any of the three options (standby/suspend/off) and since the backlight is still on my monitor is still drawing power :(
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[22:27] <gnarface> i've only used it connected to a framegrabber card and a projector, neither of which have that feature so for all i know you're experiencing expected behavior. :-/ did it used to work ?
[22:27] <exangel> my other display is a TV and i know that won't work because it doesn't even suspend when my xbox shuts down
[22:27] <exangel> i've never seen it work :/
[22:27] <_panzersajt> gnarface, separately
[22:28] <exangel> i've tried replacing the cable with a higher quality HDMI cable and i previously manually set the monitor mode in config.txt also
[22:28] <gnarface> _panzersajt: was that a question? the answer is yes then, the framegrabber card and the projector are separate. the framegrabber card is in my computer and i sent its output to a window on a CRT at a much larger resolution. DPMS *does* work there, but as its not ARM, that's unrelated...
[22:29] <_panzersajt> gnarface, my question was what could cause my pi to reboot
[22:30] <_panzersajt> not reboot
[22:30] <_panzersajt> just freeze
[22:30] <gnarface> _panzersajt: oh, my bad. i'd forgotten. sorry. my theory was the harddrive draw, but that was assuming you were powering it directly from a USB port on the pi. my advice would have been to power it externally (from a seaprate power source or powered usb hub)
[22:30] <_panzersajt> yes it is powered from hub with Y cable
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[22:31] <gnarface> _panzersajt: in that case, your behavior would seem expected, as you'd only get reboots when the harddrive was above a certian threshold of usage
[22:31] <_panzersajt> hmm I have an assumption
[22:31] <gnarface> _panzersajt: but if you're not powering it from the USB or GPIO on the pi itself, i got no ideas then. sorry :( my next advice would be to address the incoming power to the pi. they say it can run at like 5v 0.5a but if you have extra stuff plugged in its not uncommon to need even 1a
[22:32] <exangel> oh i did notice one other thing on the subject of monitor, the LXDE Preferences > Monitor Settings tool has never worked
[22:32] <_panzersajt> can it cause problem if there was no space left on sd?
[22:32] <gnarface> _panzersajt: you're not powering it from the USB port of another machine are you? i've never had trouble doing that on an ASUS board but i've *heard* people say that on MOST boards, the USB power source is notoriously unreliable, enough to cause the PI to reboot
[22:33] <gnarface> _panzersajt: hmm. no space left on the SD card? an interesting notion. i don't know. worth asking one of the developers though
[22:33] <gnarface> exangel: hmm. does it work/sleep/etc correctly when plugged into something OTHER than the PI?
[22:34] <_panzersajt> hdd?
[22:34] <exangel> absolutely , but i have not used any *X OS yet on other systems with this display
[22:34] <_panzersajt> it is not powered from another pc
[22:35] <exangel> I could run a liveCD on my other system just to see
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[22:43] <exangel> well, this iso's taking a little while. thanks so far for helping troubleshoot gnarface. :)
[22:44] <gnarface> _panzersajt: no i meant the PI itself; what are you powering it with?
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[22:44] <gnarface> exangel: sorry i couldn't actually help, good luck :-/
[22:45] <exangel-dinnerti> oh i'll be back once i verify DPM is working on HDMI with lubuntu
[22:45] <_panzersajt> nokia usb charger 5v 1200mah
[22:46] <exangel-dinnerti> i would like to know if anyone has success with DPM in raspbian ultimately, it'd be a shame to spend all day on this only to find no one really does
[22:46] <gnarface> _panzersajt: hmm. that's 1.2 amps? should be plenty... maybe try a different one? phone chargers aren't exactly something i'd expect to be designed and tested for continuous operation...
[22:47] <_panzersajt> but the pi wont draw 1.2 amps constantly
[22:47] <th__> haven't had problems with nokia branded 1.2A chargers
[22:47] <th__> in use 24/7
[22:47] <gnarface> _panzersajt: i know, what i'm saying though is that maybe your pi rebooting is a warning sign that your charger is dying. that's all
[22:48] <th__> but dont't expect full 500mA from RPi usb ports
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[22:48] <exangel-dinnerti> panzer, if you have a spare micro usb cable you could try powering the pi from your hub
[22:49] <_panzersajt> I have 3 of those nokia chargers
[22:49] <exangel-dinnerti> and also is the power light on your pi a steady red?
[22:49] <_panzersajt> they are all fine
[22:49] <_panzersajt> one of them is actually brand new
[22:49] <_panzersajt> yes
[22:49] <_panzersajt> but when it freezes
[22:50] <_panzersajt> only red lamp is on constantly
[22:50] <exangel-dinnerti> did you already try a different SD card?
[22:50] <gnarface> _panzersajt: next question: are you overclocking?
[22:50] <_panzersajt> yes
[22:50] <th__> try without (:
[22:51] <_panzersajt> but I need it
[22:51] <gnarface> diagnose first
[22:51] <_panzersajt> sometimes it has to stream 720p videos and run webserver at the same time
[22:51] <gnarface> find out if the overclocking is the problem THEN decide what you "need"
[22:52] <exangel-dinnerti> bbiab, good luck panzer
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[22:52] <gnarface> your solution may be as simple as lowering the upper threshold by 20mhz or attacking a heatsync
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[22:52] <gnarface> but you don't know one way or another until you know the cause of the reboots
[22:53] <gnarface> diagnose first, solutions second
[22:53] <gnarface> otherwise you are just shooting in the dark
[22:53] <_panzersajt> how can I config the pi?
[22:54] <gnarface> http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt this you mean?
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[22:54] <_panzersajt> there's a command line tool
[22:54] <_panzersajt> like on the first boot
[22:56] <gnarface> _panzersajt: i could be wrong, but i think that's only with the pre-installed raspbian snapshot distributed by the foundation's website
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[22:56] <_panzersajt> lowered oc to modest
[22:56] <gnarface> _panzersajt: i think if you followed the instructions on installation from the raspbian website, you don't have one
[22:56] <_panzersajt> yes but I'm using prebuilt raspbian
[22:56] <gnarface> oh
[22:56] <_panzersajt> and it has raspi-config
[22:56] <gnarface> i'm not actually sure its officially supported here
[22:57] <gnarface> but be aware there is a distinction
[22:57] * gnarface had problems with it then followed the rasbpian install and was happier
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[22:58] <gnarface> _panzersajt: http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianInstaller
[22:59] <gnarface> (its still not actually debian, but this setup will be more comfortable to you if you ARE familiar with debian)
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[22:59] <_panzersajt> not that much just using linux because there's no better os
[22:59] <_panzersajt> http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/images/raspbian/2013-02-09-wheezy-raspbian/2013-02-09-wheezy-raspbian.zip
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[23:00] <panzersajt_> hmm I think that link was too long :O
[23:01] <gnarface> _panzersajt: yea the important part to grasp here for you is that the one i linked is run by the people whose channel you're in, and the one you linked is included for convenience/first-time testing of hardware by the people who made *the hardware* not the software
[23:02] <panzersajt_> gnarface, thanks for your help
[23:02] <gnarface> panzersajt_: good luck...
[23:02] <panzersajt_> I prefer convenience
[23:02] <panzersajt_> I'm not a linux pro
[23:02] <panzersajt_> just a little bit advanced user
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[23:03] <gnarface> i think you're selling yourself short
[23:03] <panzersajt_> I will leave my pi for the night with the lowered freq
[23:03] <gnarface> and i think you're mistakenly choosing the opposite of convenience
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[23:03] <gnarface> well, when all else fails, the scientific method will not
[23:04] <panzersajt_> gnarface, thanks for the help
[23:04] <panzersajt_> going to sleep
[23:04] <exangel> so i tried an alternative monitor mode in config.txt and now the LXDE monitor settings applet in Preferences actually works
[23:04] <exangel> but DPM still doesn't suspend/standby/off the monitor at least via quick power-off
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[23:06] <exangel> and a few minutes left on the liveCD i am downloading but i think it just ain't happening for now on this
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[23:48] <jolo1234> hi just got my raspberry pi up and running, the wheezy OS - how do i turn on a led using gpio?
[23:51] <blkhawk> jolo1234: there is an example somewhere
[23:51] <blkhawk> in python
[23:51] <blkhawk> its fairly trivial but needs to run in root or an user with access to kmem
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[23:53] <jolo1234> blkaway: i have to learn python code as well
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