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[0:04] <l_r> :(
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[0:06] <Mogwai> l_r: What model is your cam, and what are you trying to do with it?
[0:07] <l_r> MobGod, i have three uvc cams
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[0:08] <l_r> MobGod, i am trying to see if they work with any program
[0:10] <Mogwai> l_r: Mmkey, well mjpg-streamer and motion works quite well on the Pi
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[0:17] <l_r> Mogwai, do you have an uvc based cam?
[0:18] <Mogwai> l_r: Yup, Logitech C110
[0:18] <l_r> MobGod, does it work xawtv?
[0:18] <l_r> MobGod, does it work with xawtv?
[0:20] <l_r> Mogwai, or vlc... try vlc v4l2:///dev/video0
[0:20] <Mogwai> l_r: Not sure, I did test it with xawtv at some point but I think that software has seen better days .. probably works better with tv-tuners etc .. mjpg-streamer is really the best software for grabbing a video stream from V4L2 cams that I can recommend
[0:21] <l_r> Mogwai, xawtv is good, it works fine with uvc cams
[0:21] <l_r> Mogwai, vlc is also good
[0:22] <l_r> what's the command to quickly test mjpg-streamer
[0:22] <Mogwai> I wouldn't run vlc on the Pi .. would be choppy with no hardware accelerated video no?
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[0:23] <l_r> MobGod, of course
[0:25] <l_r> there is no mjpg-streamer in the repository apprently
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[0:26] <Mogwai> l_r: Yeah, not yet unfortunately .. this seems helpful: http://www.instructables.com/id/Create-an-internet-controlled-robot-using-Livebots/step5/Get-the-webcam-streamer-for-Raspberry-Pi/
[0:27] <Mogwai> Even better: http://wolfpaulus.com/jounal/embedded/raspberrypi_webcam
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[3:01] <roy_muzz> Hi, I would really like to use my raspberry pi for some wireless packet capturing. I have spent a bit of time googling and nobody else seems to be doing this. I am assuming that rasberry pi will not have the drivers for monitor mode wireless cards. Has anyone else explored this?
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[3:05] <Mogwai> roy_muzz: Yup, some WiFi dongles works great and some don't
[3:05] <Mogwai> roy_muzz: Dongles based on ath9k_htc seems like a safe bet
[3:05] <roy_muzz> thanks Mogwai, I will give it a try.
[3:05] <adama> try not to go to jail
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[3:18] <roy_muzz> adama: it is a university packet measurement project, which we will obtain ethics approval for.
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[6:50] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[7:01] <gabor> hi!
[7:02] <gabor> I'm again. :) So... when will be available the freedrdp v1.1.x in rasbian?
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[7:33] <Chetic> how can I make raspbian do this on startup?: sudo sh -c "echo none > /sys/class/leds/led0/trigger"
[7:34] <Chetic> preferably by putting something in the partition that's accessible in windows after flashing the sd card
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[8:59] <gordonDrogon> Chetic, put it in /etc/rc.local
[8:59] <gordonDrogon> Chetic, you don't need the sudo though.
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[9:17] <Chetic> gordonDrogon: is there anything I can put in /boot that will do the same thing?
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[9:27] <Chetic> it'd be useful if I could write a script that I have ready for every time I have to flash a fresh raspbian install
[9:28] <Chetic> get a lot of issues with corrupt file systems and plugging in keyboard+mouse+display to set up wifi is not practical
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[9:29] <gordonDrogon> Chetic, not that I'm aware of.
[9:30] <gordonDrogon> I'd start to try to find out why you get so much FS corruption though - that's not normal.
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[9:36] <Wiaf> anyone feel like supporting me with some apache/groupware issue?
[9:38] <gordonDrogon> you'd be better off asking in a generic debian forum for that sort of stuff.
[9:38] <gordonDrogon> maybe..
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[9:44] <heavyhulk> hey guys
[9:44] <heavyhulk> Just a quick question. Now that wheezy is going to be released as stable, what changes for me as raspbian user?
[9:44] <heavyhulk> Is raspbian a rolling distro?
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[9:56] <Wiaf> true that gordonDrogon
[9:56] <Wiaf> but then again there are some very skilled people in here that have helped me numerous times
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[11:20] <Chetic> will using a journaling file system help at all against corruption in the sd card?
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[11:23] <Mogwai> Chetic: Yes, a journal helps against file system corruption in general
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[11:25] <Chetic> Mogwai: as I understand it, it works on regular harddrives because there's buffering
[11:25] <Chetic> while the SD card is just direct SPI writing
[11:28] <gordonDrogon> Chetic, it won't help if the corruption is caused by voltage issues, or software writing the wrong thing at the wrong place.
[11:29] <Chetic> shouldn't a power fail interrupt be able to prevent corruption when there's voltage issues?
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[11:34] <gordonDrogon> there isn't a power fail interrupt.
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[11:34] <gordonDrogon> I'd start to look closer at things like your PSU, overclocking, etc.
[11:34] <gordonDrogon> I don't see SD corruption anymore.
[11:34] <gordonDrogon> over 4 Pi's.
[11:35] <gordonDrogon> however I rarely just pull the plug on them - most of hte time I do shut them down properly.
[11:35] <adeus> I just built a system to test the stability
[11:35] <adeus> one pi randomly cuts power from another
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[11:53] <Chetic> adeus: how'd you deal with corruption?
[11:54] <adeus> I haven't
[11:54] <adeus> I'm still testing
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[14:56] <gordonDrogon> not sure what you're actually testing there.
[14:57] <gordonDrogon> if you pull the plug on any Linux system there will always be the potential for FS corruption due to a variety of reasons.
[14:57] <gordonDrogon> especially if it's writing at the time.
[15:00] <adeus> MTFB basically
[15:00] <adeus> MTBF
[15:00] <adeus> how long on average until it breaks
[15:00] <adeus> then probably test other file systems as well
[15:02] <adeus> if it looks bad then consider moving to e.g. aufs
[15:14] <ShadowJK> adeus; your results will vary depending on SD card too
[15:15] <adeus> on the TODO list as well
[15:15] <ShadowJK> and even between different SD cards with same brand. model and spec
[15:16] <gordonDrogon> no - I really don't think that pulling the plug is testing mtbf at all.
[15:16] <gordonDrogon> there are simply too many variables to test.
[15:17] <gordonDrogon> if a pi has been idle for 5 seconds, then it will have flushed out the journal and pulling the plug will have minimal if any effect. if it's busy writing a bunch of files, then pulling the plug will result in loss of data.
[15:18] <gordonDrogon> you may be able to work out a probability of data loss - but that will depend on what's running.
[15:18] <gordonDrogon> it will be an intersting experiment though.
[15:18] <ShadowJK> adeus; at one point in time, ext3 (with journal and no fsck ever) on loop on vfat was pretty good at surviving random powerdown test.. but changes in kernels accidentally "break" and unbreak it over different versions
[15:21] <adeus> the box will run the exact same set of apps, and of course those are all good points
[15:22] <adeus> it will still depend on all kinds of stuff what will happen, I'm just looking for a ball park figure
[15:22] <adeus> "guaranteed" vs "sometimes"
[15:25] <gordonDrogon> my experiences with the Pi is that filesystem corruption has only ever happened due to bad power supply or silly overclocking.
[15:25] <gordonDrogon> that's over 3 Pi's for a year plus 1 other for the last few months.
[15:26] <gordonDrogon> my experiences when pulling the plug mimics that of all my other Linux PCs/Servers, etc. in that there is minimal corruption and it's fixed when the PC is rebooted.
[15:27] <adeus> basically I'll have N boxes with the same image with a power supply that can cut at any time
[15:27] <adeus> and I want to know how often do I need to change the card
[15:27] <gordonDrogon> be sure the publish the results.
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[15:28] <gordonDrogon> change the card - because it's worn out or because it's had FS errors?
[15:28] <adeus> because it wont boot
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[15:29] <adeus> for whatever reason
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[16:16] <cabral> Just seeing if anyone can help me out with setting up my LCD touchscreen. It's all set up and registered on my Raspberry Pi but I can't brighten. Here's a link to what I'm getting when. I try and brighten it. I'm very new to Linux https://www.dropbox.com/s/ld7jclsuvu3byhy/Photo%202013-04-17%209%2056%2035%20PM.jpg
[16:19] <Mogwai> cabral: What happens if you do "xgamma -gamma 0.5" ?
[16:20] <cabral> It seems like it goes through but then again it gives me the same results. I also had xrandr tell me get crtc to set gamma on. I haven't found any solutions. It's been about 5 days :(
[16:20] <cabral> Thanks for responding Mogwai :)
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[16:21] <Mogwai> cabral: And the LCD touchscreen is the only display connected? Or do you have two?
[16:22] <cabral> It's actually running through hdmi I bought 10"LCD LDVS touchscreen from chalkboard electronics
[16:24] <Mogwai> Hmm, sorry, stumped I am :)
[16:24] <cabral> Sorry I keep forgetting at add your username Mogwai to respond
[16:25] <cabral> If anyone can help could you possibly email me at cabralcole@gmail.com
[16:25] <ShadowJK> adeus; if you're doing lots of testing, it'd be interesting to see fsck-on-boot vs no fsck, with ext3 and ext4
[16:26] <adeus> interesting
[16:27] <adeus> I'll add that to my TODO pile
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[16:56] <gordonDrogon> I don't think linux will normally let you mount an un-checked filesystem
[16:58] <gordonDrogon> in any case, I can't see why you'd ever want to try to mount a file system with errors in it.
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