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[2:26] <aleksandra> hi people!
[2:29] <aleksandra> I need some help with wi-fi connection
[2:29] <aleksandra> Can anybody help me?
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[10:15] <Kevel> is it somewhat of an overkill using the multiprocessing library for py for building an rpi project?
[10:15] <Kevel> it only has a single processor so?
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[10:17] <gordonDrogon> it's good practice.
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[10:25] <Kevel> gordonDrogon: which? multiprocessing?
[10:25] <Kevel> must be seeing as i forgot to mention threading
[10:25] <Kevel> :d
[10:26] <gordonDrogon> yes - threading/multiprocessing - not a bad thing to be aware of for some problems, etc.
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[10:31] <AD-N770> there's any firmware/openmax developer in this channel ?
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[13:25] <AD-N770> there's any firmware/openmax developer in this channel ?
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[16:26] <uveX> hi, i have a small problem
[16:27] <uveX> i install the rasbian image on a 4gb card and it boots on a 512mb but not on a old 256mb version
[16:27] <uveX> what can i do to fix it ß
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[17:20] <RJ45> I've recently been able get get funding to get my very first Rapberry Pi!, YAY, one question; does Raspbian have Wine?, can it be installed via apt-get?
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[17:23] <Mogwai> RJ45: Yes, but it would be too slow to be useful
[17:24] <RJ45> Mogwai: buurt, it IS easily installable to Raspbian on Raspberry Pi via .debs right?
[17:25] <RJ45> right?
[17:25] <gordonDrogon> wine is not an emulator - it wants to execute native x86 code.
[17:25] <gordonDrogon> wine does not work on the Pi.
[17:25] <RJ45> gordonDrogon: so there is Wine for the Pi, but it's only run ARM Windows programs?
[17:26] <muep> I would not expect it to work for arm, either
[17:26] <RJ45> :-(
[17:26] <Mogwai> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=12727
[17:26] <muep> it is a quite complex piece of software that likely has some cpu specific stuff in it
[17:26] <RJ45> well that's a lot of plans for its use just shot to hell :-(
[17:27] <muep> most windows software is not easily or at all available for ARM, anyway
[17:28] <RJ45> I really wanted to play Stepmania on RasPi :-(
[17:29] <RJ45> well, is there the Linux version of ZSNES available for ARM?
[17:30] <muep> zsnes is free software, so likely at least source for it is available
[17:30] <muep> but IIRC at least some of it is x86 assembly
[17:30] <muep> it does support x86 GNU/Linux but no idea if it also supports ARM
[17:30] <Mogwai> RJ45: This one https://github.com/petrockblog/RetroPie-Setup with RocketSNES will get you a decent SNES emu
[17:31] <Mogwai> pocketsnes even
[17:32] <RJ45> Mogwai: it looks like a penis to install, does it work good?
[17:32] <Mogwai> It does .. quality penis
[17:32] <RJ45> not a lot of skipping 'n' stuff though right?
[17:32] <RJ45> does it have a GUI?
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[17:33] <Mogwai> RJ45: It has like a game selection menu .. and should play steady at full speed with modest overclocking
[17:34] <RJ45> Mogwai: can that 'game selection menu' be set to a specific directory?
[17:34] <Mogwai> Yup
[17:34] <RJ45> ah!, great
[17:34] <RJ45> well at-least that's one good thing
[17:35] <RJ45> ...though I did have my heart set on ZSNES
[17:37] <RJ45> Rasbian uses Wheeze packages right?
[17:37] <RJ45> Wheezy*
[17:46] <RJ45> Mogwai: hey hold up, if the game selection menu, GUI or CLI?
[17:46] <RJ45> is the*
[17:48] <Mogwai> RJ45: GUI, the emulators installation part is like a text-mode menu application tho
[17:49] <RJ45> oh okay
[17:49] <RJ45> doesn't sound TOO noob un-friendly
[17:53] <RJ45> what should I use for NES emulation?
[17:54] <Mogwai> RJ45: FCEUX .. also comes with that RetroPie setup
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[17:55] <RJ45> oh, so RetroPie is, like, one package, that contains multiple programs?
[17:56] <Mogwai> Exactly
[17:56] <RJ45> hmmm, I'm not a fan of that concept at all, but if it makes all this easier... :-/
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[18:19] <RJ45> I've never actually used it, but I'm to understand that there's a thing called 'Qemu', that (as far as I know) can be run on Raspbian, of which is like VirtualBox, except instead just letting you run different OSs within an OS, Qemu supposedly has an option to let you run OSs of a different architecture!
[18:20] <adama> you can run raspbian on qemu
[18:20] <RJ45> ...so my idea is, to get a dramatically strip-down version of Debian, run it in Qemu on the Raspberry Pi, and install Wine within it.
[18:20] <adama> you wouldn't want to run qemu on raspbian
[18:20] <adama> you, you don't want to do that
[18:20] <adama> it would run at the speed of a 486 from 1993
[18:20] <RJ45> adama: but you CAN run Gemu on Raspbian right?
[18:20] <adama> you could
[18:20] <RJ45> Qemu*
[18:20] <adama> but it would be pretty stupid
[18:21] <RJ45> hmm... I'm feeling stupid this month
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[18:21] <adama> qemu is an /emulator/
[18:21] <adama> emulators are usually a few orders of magnitude slower than the host
[18:21] <RJ45> ya ha
[18:21] <adama> and the host in this case is already and order of magnitude slower than a modern computer
[18:21] <RJ45> yup
[18:22] <adama> also, qemu isn't like virtualbox
[18:22] <adama> virtualbox is virtualisation
[18:22] <RJ45> luckily for me, the Raspberry Pi has no 'Off Switch' ;-)
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[18:22] <adama> i'm not sure why that's lucky
[18:22] <adama> but
[18:22] <adama> enjoy your emulated 486
[18:23] <adama> i'm sure it'll be super useful to run notepad.exe
[18:23] <RJ45> 'cos it's gonna be oon for a looooooong lit, and it's gonna be Swap-ing like crazy
[18:23] <RJ45> lit = time*
[18:23] <RJ45> wtf is wring with my typing?
[18:23] <RJ45> wrong* ARRGH!
[18:24] <adama> also, qemu won't run wine
[18:24] <RJ45> why not?
[18:24] <adama> you'd have to run *another* linux installation within qemu
[18:24] <adama> and then run wine on that
[18:24] <RJ45> that's the idea!
[18:25] <adama> are you 12?
[18:25] <RJ45> I might-ans-well be :-/
[18:25] <adama> i can imagine this might sound reasonable to a 12 year old
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[18:25] <adama> not that you'll also have an emulated frame buffer
[18:25] <adama> making graphical stuff really painful to use
[18:25] <RJ45> so-what it'll be very very very phenomenally slow?
[18:26] <adama> that's assume that the whole chain of dominos actually works
[18:26] <RJ45> I could play Stepmania and miss all the notes @ 0.2FPS! :D
[18:26] <adama> dude
[18:27] <adama> you wouldn't get 0.2fps
[18:27] <adama> you'd likely get 0.2 fpm
[18:27] <RJ45> 0.o
[18:27] <adama> i don't think you're grasping quite how slow this would be
[18:27] <RJ45> slower than me?
[18:27] <RJ45> :P
[18:28] <adama> i'm not sure if that's possible
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[18:32] <RJ45> :P
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[18:33] <Mogwai> RJ45: It would probably be easier for you to learn how to code and port Stepmania to the Pi yourself :)
[18:33] <RJ45> Mogwai: I can't coda anything!
[18:33] <RJ45> code*
[18:34] <Mogwai> Thus the learning
[18:34] <RJ45> that'd take years!
[18:35] <RJ45> years of learning just to learn C++!
[18:35] <Mogwai> RJ45: Just in time for you second frame in QEMU then :)
[18:35] <RJ45> -_-
[18:36] <RJ45> I'd have-to learn C++, OpenGL, and a buncha other stuff!
[18:36] <RJ45> I can barely type!
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[18:37] <Mogwai> It can be done, just play a little less and read a little more
[18:37] <RJ45> but it'll take so many years to learn!
[18:38] <OliverJW> just go to code academy
[18:38] <RJ45> I don' wanna!
[18:39] <RJ45> :-(
[18:40] <Mogwai> Meh .. at least we tried :) Someone has to get hit in the nuts on youtube too
[18:40] <OliverJW> I don't know how to HTML, but I'm learning and I'm finding it easy, so try at least.
[18:43] <RJ45> oh, I kick-ass at HTML and CSS
[18:44] <RJ45> but ya don't really need 'skill' for that
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[20:13] <anew> i'm having problems installing mysql
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[20:26] <Mogwai> anew: What does "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start" give you?
[20:27] <Mogwai> nevermind
[20:28] <anew> mogwai i think i dont have enough space, but i have an 8gb mem card
[20:28] <Mogwai> Yup, expand first :)
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[21:00] <Gregor_> hello together! Is it better to use sd card only to boot from usb hdd? Or is it for sd cards okay for using it as operating system 24/7?
[21:01] <PhotoJim> hard disks are faster, but use more power
[21:02] <PhotoJim> may not be faster given the limitations of the USB bus on the Pi, mind
[21:02] <PhotoJim> if you do a ton of writing, hard disk is better... if writing is at modest amounts, SD is fine
[21:02] <PhotoJim> I use SD only on both of my Pis.
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[21:04] <Gregor_> okay
[21:04] <Gregor_> what does a normal hdd 2.5" consume? 12 watt?
[21:15] <Gregor_> PhotoJim:ty
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