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[1:15] <adejo> hi
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[1:20] <plugwash> hi
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[1:48] <Blaker1000> Hi. Is raspbian defaultly configured to block on SD card I/O? Or perhaps, do you happen to know what linux/etc option this is called?
[1:49] <Blaker1000> I know on my ext4 Intel i7 laptop, when i write to a file, it is buffered in memory and eventually written to disk.
[1:49] <Blaker1000> is this the case for raspbian?
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[1:54] <ParkerR> Blaker1000, sd card write should just work since it uses an sd card for the os and bootloader
[1:55] <plugwash> afaict linux will buffer writes regardless of architecture, of course not all writes can be buffered (for example some apps use "fsync" to force writes to disk) and a Pi has a lot less ram for buffering than a PC
[1:56] <plugwash> and SD cards are a lot slower at random writes than most storage you will find on a PC
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[2:06] <ShadowJK> Yeah, like 1-4 IOPS :-)
[2:06] <ShadowJK> So worst case sqlite madness takes like 5 seconds for the tiniest things..
[2:13] <ShadowJK> Also, nothing "blocks" on SD I/O, except for things that depend on reading something from SD, or things explicitly forcings things to be written out and waiting for that to complete
[2:15] <TheJH> plugwash: what do you think about https://bugs.launchpad.net/raspbian/+bug/1176228 ?
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[2:16] <TheJH> plugwash: is it a security problem or just a hard-to-trigger bug because of the required level of access?
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[2:18] <ParkerR> TheJH, Page not found
[2:18] <ParkerR> Thats a pretty big error :P
[2:18] <TheJH> ParkerR: plugwash should be able to see it, it's marked as private :P
[2:18] <ParkerR> Ahh
[2:21] <plugwash> TheJH, I'd personally class it as a minor security issue, it allows privilage escalation but from a relatively privilaged starting point
[2:22] <plugwash> i'd also say it needs to be reported to the raspberry pi foundation if it hasn't already been
[2:23] <TheJH> plugwash: I haven't done that. Who should be contacted and how?
[2:26] <plugwash> good question :(
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[2:31] <plugwash> I know they use an issue tracker on github but I dunno if it has provision for private security bugs
[2:31] <plugwash> failing that i'd suggest emailing dom
[2:31] <TheJH> afaik github doesn't support private bugs
[2:31] <TheJH> so just put him into the cc list of the launchpad bug?
[2:33] <plugwash> sounds like as good an approach as any
[2:33] <TheJH> can you do that? I don't have his email
[2:39] <TheJH> oh, erm... I guess I actually have it
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[13:09] <opieng> hi all is there anyway I can repeat videos playing using omxplayer in Raspbian?
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[14:52] <jigoe> is gordons library mode 1?
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[16:12] <lordievader> Good afternoon
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[19:21] <TheSnide> hmmm, did a dist-upgrade and now it doesnt boot anymore.
[19:23] <TheSnide> solid red, blank hdmi. means no bootable sd right ?
[19:27] <taza> Solid red, no other color?
[19:27] <taza> Yeah.
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[19:46] <TheSnide> taza: yup. only red
[19:47] <taza> Yep, that's no bootable SD
[19:50] <TheSnide> taza: how come...
[19:51] <TheSnide> taza: well, seems the dist-upgrade isnt a good idea...
[19:54] <taza> I dunno.
[19:54] <TheSnide> taza: oh, well... dd-ing the vanilla img again
[19:55] <TheSnide> taza: next time i'm learning about making bakups :)
[19:55] <taza> SD card corruption happens sometimes.
[19:56] <TheSnide> taza: oh ? even with stock config ? (no overclock, no fancy thingd)
[19:56] <taza> I dunno if SD card corruption would do that tho. ;p
[19:56] <taza> No bootable SD definitely gives solid red and blank hdmi, other things might too.
[19:57] <taza> And it's entirely possible your data isn't / wasn't gone, just, well, inaccessible to the Pi
[19:58] <taza> I try mounting the ext3 partition in my Debian install before counting it out.
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[20:22] <adejo> hello
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[20:27] <taza> TheSnide: BTW, best way to back up your SD card? dd
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[23:23] <sjac> Hello?
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[23:27] <plugwash> hi
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