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IRC Log for 2013-05-26

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[1:07] <taza> plugwash: The minimal image complains about utf8+fat
[1:08] <taza> But will boot. Other than that, I've not tested much.
[1:08] <plugwash> debian systems tend to do that :(
[1:08] <plugwash> it's kinda a damned if you do damned if you don't situation :(
[1:08] <taza> Eh, fair.
[1:08] <taza> I've not tested much at all yet.
[1:08] <plugwash> if you don't select utf-8 as the mapping then the mapping will be wrong for a modern linux system
[1:09] <plugwash> if you do select utf-8 as the mapping then for some stupid reason the linux kernel refuses to make the filesystem case-insensitive like a fat filesystem should be
[1:10] <plugwash> BTW we are talking about the newer version of the minimal image (20130519) right?
[1:10] <taza> Yes
[1:10] <taza> IMO a tool that asks for the Debian Installer setup options would be a good idea.
[1:11] <taza> BTW, would "apt-get purge sshd" and "apt-get install sshd" at a later date regenerate the keys?
[1:12] <plugwash> it would
[1:12] <plugwash> actually the package is called openssh-server not sshd but other than that.........
[1:13] <taza> Aite, good. I ain't doing headless, so that might be the trick
[1:13] <taza> Aite, fair.
[1:14] <plugwash> you can also rm the keys and then run dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server. In the image what I do is have a package which adds a startup script that checks if the keys exist and if they don't runs dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server
[1:14] <plugwash> then I remove the keys at the end of the image build process
[1:16] <plugwash> so each user flashing the image gets their own keys
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[1:32] <taza> Hmm. What's the name of the package doing that?
[1:32] <taza> 'cuz I wonder how it reacts to openssh-server being removed.
[1:35] <plugwash> IIRC I called the package ssh-regen-startup
[1:36] <plugwash> you can find the source at http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/rpi/s/ssh-regen-startup/ssh-regen-startup_0.1.dsc if you want to look at it and possiblly propose improvements
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[1:38] <taza> Eh, I figure if it checks for the presence of openssh-server it's good enough
[1:40] <plugwash> I think I made it depend on openssh-server but i'm not sure if I properly handled the case where openssh-server is purged and ssh-regen-startup is "removed but not purged"
[1:41] <plugwash> worst that's likely to happen though is it barfs out an error during boot
[1:41] <taza> I'll just start with purging ssh-regen-startup and then openssh-server, oughta work. ;p
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[1:54] <taza> ... hrrm. How am I supposed to reconfigure the keyboard layout? 'cuz "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" does nuffin
[2:00] <taza> There we go, had to reconfigure console-setup too
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[2:15] <taza> And raspi-config is in the foundation repo
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[2:17] <taza> And it complains about hw clock being missing on shutdown
[2:19] <taza> So ok. Keyboard layout through console-setup? Ehh.
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[2:20] * plugwash isn't sure what is going on there either
[2:21] <taza> Other than that - it should probably have a script for tzdata, keyboard configuration, changing hostname and resizing the SD.
[2:21] <taza> That last part being the hardest part.
[2:23] <plugwash> Shouldn't be too bad, I just need to strip the inappropriate stuff out of raspi-config
[2:23] <taza> Also locales, and an easier to use user set up probably wouldn't hurt
[2:24] <taza> I'll add the foundation repo tomorrow and test with it some more
[2:25] <taza> Also, the script probably should ask if you want to install ntp, if you aren't going with ntp as the default.
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[5:54] <liyang> praest76: !
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[6:24] <felzix> Does anyone know how to get ghc (haskell) on raspberry pi? As far as I can tell it isn't available on ubuntu
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[6:40] <linuxstb> felzix: It's part of Raspbian - just do "apt-get install ghc"
[6:41] <liyang> lol, exactly what I'm doing right now.
[6:41] * linuxstb leaves felzix and liyang to it
[6:42] <liyang> I'm attempting to use QEmu to cross-compile. (GHC needs a fair bit of memory.) Does that seem reasonable?
[6:42] <liyang> Also, Tokyo Big Jam (hardware session) nao. :3
[6:42] <linuxstb> Why cross-compile it? There are already binaries in Raspbian.
[6:43] <liyang> I mean to cross-compile my own programs.
[6:43] <liyang> Er, not exactly cross compile. I mean compile my own programs on an emulated machine that has more memory, then copy the binaries over.
[6:44] <liyang> (Also I don't actually have a Pi yet.)
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[11:52] <raven_> i am trying to record a webcam using mencoder. it tells me "x11 uninit called but x11 not initialized" any ideas? is the graphical environment running in any other way?
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[12:44] <z127> hi. where do I find the sources for the raspbian stock kernel?
[12:46] <z127> dpkg-query tells me that /boot/kernel.img belongs to raspberrypi-bootloader, but there is no source package.
[12:46] <angelos> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux
[12:47] <z127> okay, thanks
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[13:33] <yang> can wheezy source be replaced with jessie now ?
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[13:35] <plugwash> we are working on raspbian jessie but it's not ready for public consumption yet
[13:36] <yang> ok
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[14:16] <yang> is there a problem using pubkey ssh authentication on RPI's ?
[14:19] <yang> nevermind
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[14:37] <\\Mr_C\\> do they make a serial to ttl wireless?
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[16:06] <z127> how do I get the kernel config for the stock kernel?
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[16:07] <Mogwai> z127: zcat /proc/config.gz
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[16:07] <Mogwai> z127: Alternatively https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/blob/rpi-3.6.y/arch/arm/configs/bcmrpi_defconfig
[16:08] <z127> thanks
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[16:09] <django> is here the best place to ask about an xbmc install on raspbian, or should I go find #xbmc?
[16:09] <django> a problem with an xbmc install, I mean.
[16:11] <Mogwai> django: Just ask and see .. we'll forgive you :)
[16:12] <django> righto, just setup xbmc on raspbian, works brilliantly, including streaming from a samba share, but it won't stream mkv's? it just says 'working', then stops - any ideas what I'm missing?
[16:12] <django> i'd expect a bandwidth problem to at least attempt to play the media, then go choppy/lag or whatever?
[16:14] <Mogwai> django: Hmm, what codec is the mkv video? Is it 720p or higher etc? Also, do you have 128Mb allocated to the GPU?
[16:15] <django> yeah they're all 720p/1080p - and I think I do yeah, like I said it plays everything else fine?
[16:16] <django> is it just a case of the GPU not being able to handle it? I'm streaming over wifi..
[16:16] <django> although it plays the HD iplayer stream with no problems..
[16:16] <Mogwai> django: grep 'gpu_mem' /boot/config.txt gives 128?
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[16:17] <django> one moment, pi is in the other room ;-)
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[16:22] <django> that command doesn't return anything
[16:22] <django> Mogwai that command doesn't return anything?
[16:22] <django> sorry for double there!
[16:22] <Mogwai> django: sudo raspi-config .. check the memory allocation in there
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[16:25] <django> it's set at 64mb - I have an option to go up to 256mb...should I?
[16:25] <Mogwai> django: Nah, 128 should be good for 1080p
[16:26] <django> i'll give it a try then, thank you. Back in 5!
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[16:29] <django> you're a legend, thank you, it works brilliantly :-)
[16:29] <Mogwai> Sweet :)
[16:30] <django> have a great day!
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[16:37] <rela> what works brilliantly?
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[17:59] <ParkerR> rela, Playing 1080p with 128mb of RAM allocated to the GPU (in djangos case)
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[18:26] <rela> ParkerR: i see.. i dont even have x enabled on my pi :)
[18:26] <ParkerR> rela, Dont even need X for playing video
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[18:27] <PhotoJim> ParkerR: mplayer?
[18:27] <rela> didnt know that
[18:27] <ParkerR> omxplayer
[18:27] <rela> but anyway, there is no display attached to my pi either ;)
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[18:29] <ParkerR> PLay 1080p on the command line. (h.264 out of the box and mpeg2 and vc-1 with codecs)
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[18:33] <dharc> hi, how can i colaborate with kfreebsd port to raspberry?
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[18:35] <dharc_> ?
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[18:38] <ParkerR> dharc_, http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/3094
[18:40] <dharc_> no, i was thinking to port debian gnu/kfreebsd to raspberry pi architecture :P
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[19:58] <lordievader> Good evening.
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[20:53] <fomox> maby its time to again try and install raspbian after failing 10 times xD
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[21:23] <fomox> anyone know why my raspbian install stops at 33%?
[21:24] <ragedragon> fomox, your sd card?
[21:24] <fomox> ragedragon: what about it?
[21:25] <ragedragon> did you check your sd card?
[21:26] <fomox> check what on my sd card?
[21:26] <fomox> oh, nvm
[21:26] <fomox> looks like it got past it
[21:26] <fomox> havent happend before
[21:26] <fomox> now I get couldnt get release file http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/rapsbian/dists/wheezy/Release.
[21:30] <plugwash> did you type it out manually? because there is a misspelling in that url
[21:31] <plugwash> other than that I can't really suggest much :( i'm not a d-i expert :(
[21:31] <fomox> did type it out manually yes
[21:31] <fomox> but what is mispelled? :P
[21:31] <fomox> oh
[21:31] <plugwash> rapsbian
[21:31] <fomox> nvm
[21:32] <fomox> hehe
[21:32] <fomox> I`ll try to use http://raspbian.trivini.no/raspbian instead
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[21:55] <ParkerR> fomox, ... you misspelled raspbian
[21:55] <ParkerR> "http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/rapsbian/dists/wheezy/Release."
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