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[6:10] <mitchi> hi
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[6:55] <gnarface> aaaah
[6:55] <gnarface> good to be back
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[8:04] <yang> is jessie for raspbian ready ?
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[8:24] <shiftplusone> yang, I don't know what state it's in, but it's available, yes.
[8:27] <yang> hm
[8:28] <yang> I wonder if it's safe to upgrade all the packages
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[9:38] <flatout> hi, i'm trying to build a custom raspbian image
[9:38] <flatout> but i can't find any directions
[9:38] <flatout> how is the raspbian image created?
[9:40] <gnarface> flatout: http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianInstaller you have read this?
[9:41] <flatout> yes
[9:41] <flatout> how is the zip file created?
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[9:42] <flatout> i thought, that there was an easier way to setup a raspbian sd card image
[9:43] <flatout> something like the vmbuilder script
[9:43] <flatout> or like spindle which uses debootsrap and buildroot
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[10:17] <gnarface> flatout: sorry, i don't know how they make this image. i think plugwash would be the guy to ask when he is around
[10:19] <gnarface> flatout: i didn't find that setup to be too hard though, but you have to follow it exactly very carefully
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[10:19] <gnarface> flatout: and yea, i know its a little vague here and there
[10:20] <gnarface> flatout: you know that there is a pre-installed image available at raspberrypi.org ? if you want ease of installation that is probably the best bet
[10:20] <gnarface> personally i don't like it though
[10:21] <gnarface> i like to pick my own installs
[10:28] <flatout> with a script like vmbuilder you can set the hostname, username, password, sshkeys and add additional debian packages in one step
[10:29] <flatout> i thought, that there was a similiar way to create those kind of images for raspberry
[10:29] <flatout> thx anyway
[10:30] <flatout> btw, you know why the locales are set to en_UK?
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[11:05] <OliverJW> flatout: Are you talking about the pi's? THey are set to en_UK because that's where they are made.
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[11:17] <flatout> but they are not set up properly
[11:17] <flatout> the en_UK locales are not generated
[11:20] <flatout> you have to run 'dpkg-reconfigure locales'
[11:20] <flatout> otherwise e.g. postgresql does not install properly
[11:21] <flatout> here is bug report for that http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=11870
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[14:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> How do you build packages for Raspbian?
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[14:51] <Eduard_Munteanu> I'm trying to build a Debian chroot with a cross amd64 to armhf toolchain.
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[15:43] <marcel_> hey there, my raspian is not booting through to the login screen (terminal not graphical) it just shows the boot messages. Yet I can connect via SSH and it seems to operate normally. Any ideas?
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[15:43] <Eduard_Munteanu> marcel_: anything among the last boot messages?
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[15:44] <Eduard_Munteanu> Last lines of, even.
[15:44] <marcel_> nope, just the daemons starting up fine
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[15:44] <Eduard_Munteanu> marcel_: can you paste /proc/cmdline?
[15:44] <marcel_> dma.dmachans=0x7f35 bcm2708_fb.fbwidth=1280 bcm2708_fb.fbheight=1024 bcm2708.boardrev=0xe bcm2708.serial=0x4f608dc4 smsc95xx.macaddr=B8:27:EB:60:8D:C4 sdhci-bcm2708.emmc_clock_freq=100000000 vc_mem.mem_base=0x1ec00000 vc_mem.mem_size=0x20000000 dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p3 rootfstype=ext4 rootwait
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[15:46] <marcel_> Eduard_Munteanu: anything unusual amongst it?
[15:46] <Eduard_Munteanu> marcel_: what about 'runlevel'?
[15:47] <Eduard_Munteanu> Not so far.
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[15:48] <marcel_> Eduard_Munteanu: the output of runlevel is "N 2"
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[15:48] <marcel_> Eduard_Munteanu: hm ok, "init 3" solved this
[15:49] <marcel_> Eduard_Munteanu: but how come the PI started booting to 2 instead of 3?
[15:49] <Eduard_Munteanu> marcel_: hm, according to the Debian wiki there should be no difference
[15:50] <marcel_> Eduard_Munteanu: hm, strange
[15:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> 2 seems default.
[15:51] <Eduard_Munteanu> marcel_: look at your /etc/inittab and try invoking getty manually in runlevel 2
[15:52] <Eduard_Munteanu> Or perhaps the official R-Pi images do something different to Debian.
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[15:55] <marcel_> Eduard_Munteanu: I changed the default runlevel to 3 and after a reboot, the terminal again doesn't show up.
[15:57] <Eduard_Munteanu> marcel_: hmm, I'd try removing both those console= options from the cmdline
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[15:59] <Eduard_Munteanu> Though the 1st one might be builtin.
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[16:05] <marcel_> Eduard_Munteanu: removing all the options with "tty" in it didn't help
[16:05] <marcel_> Eduard_Munteanu: invoking getty from through SSH did help. It seems that something's wrong with the execution of getty
[16:06] <Eduard_Munteanu> marcel_: what did it say?
[16:08] <marcel_> Eduard_Munteanu: no output from getty or what do you mean?
[16:11] <Eduard_Munteanu> marcel_: what did getty say when you ran it through SSH?
[16:11] <Eduard_Munteanu> Oh, it worked, sorry.
[16:11] <Eduard_Munteanu> marcel_: is getty located on another filesystem maybe?
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[16:19] <marcel_> Eduard_Munteanu: No, it's not. According to http://elinux.org/RPi_raspi-config the contents of my inittab is fine ... arghs
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[16:51] <marcel_> Eduard_Munteanu: I have no clue how, but now it works ... lol. Thanks for your help!
[16:53] <Eduard_Munteanu> marcel_: hmm, check your networking and auth methods you have set up, maybe it's trying to contact some server for login.
[16:53] <Eduard_Munteanu> That would explain intermittent failures and delays to start up.
[16:55] <marcel_> Eduard_Munteanu: OK, I'll check but I did not set up anything fancy
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[18:58] <Eduard_Munteanu> How do you make an amd64 (say) chroot that can cross-compile to armhf? I'm doing 'apt-get -o APT::Architecture=armhf -f install', but it stops on package gcc-4.7-base:armhf 4.7.2-5+rpi1 cannot be configured because gcc-4.7-base:amd64 is at a different version (4.7.2-5)
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[19:04] <plugwash> eek, I was expecting a traffic spike when I added jessie to the repository
[19:04] <plugwash> I wasn't expecting to still be pushing over 100 megabits per second two days later
[19:05] <Eduard_Munteanu> I wonder... can we get i386 and amd64 in the repos?
[19:06] <Eduard_Munteanu> I could debootstrap an amd64 chroot and then add armhf as another ABI.
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[19:06] <vagrantc> you can build an armhf chroot on amd64/i386 that can build armhf packages with qemu-user-static ... but cross-compiling for arbitrary packages isn't yet fully supported with multiarch
[19:07] <Eduard_Munteanu> vagrantc: I did that... but qemu-user-static is *very* slow
[19:07] <vagrantc> often faster than compiling natively...
[19:07] <Eduard_Munteanu> vagrantc: meh, after 15 mins at building xbmc, it was still poking at ./configure :)
[19:09] <vagrantc> it's getting there, but slowly
[19:09] <Eduard_Munteanu> Anyway, even if not fully supported, anyone managed to build such a chroot?
[19:09] <vagrantc> although raspbian will likely always diverge just enough to make that sort of thing difficult (i.e. mismatched versions and such)
[19:10] <Eduard_Munteanu> I don't see why versions have to match, FWIW.
[19:10] <Eduard_Munteanu> (even different versions on same arch would make sense for some things)
[19:12] <plugwash> You can use architecture specifiers in sources.list to bring amd64 packages from debian and armhf ones from raspbian
[19:13] <plugwash> however you will likely have to recompile some packages manually because multiarch requires all architectures of a package to be at the same version (I can see why they did this but it makes multiarching with unofficial ports a PITA)
[19:13] <Eduard_Munteanu> plugwash: yep, that's what I'm doing but if I attempt to install the armhf part (apt-get -o APT::Architecture=armhf -f install), it complains the versions of gcc-base mismatch because of the +rpi.
[19:13] <Eduard_Munteanu> Ah.
[19:14] <plugwash> (and no I don't plan to put amd64 packages in the repo, too much of our stuff assumes there will only be one architecture in there)
[19:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> I guess the multiarch stuff should be fixed.
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[19:15] <Eduard_Munteanu> But as a compromise... can someone make a chroot and install stuff into that?
[19:15] <Eduard_Munteanu> That way you sidestep multiarch.
[19:16] <plugwash> The problem is it's not a bug it's a design descision, they require all architectures of a package to be at the same version, so when an unofficial port makes changes (and bumps the version to avoid horrible confusion)
[19:16] <plugwash> apt refuses to install it, the workaround would be to build an x86 version of that package from raspbian sources but i'll agree it's a PITA
[19:17] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hm, maybe I can make a "fakechroot" inside the amd64 chroot.
[19:18] <Eduard_Munteanu> Sort of what emerge's ROOT= does.
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[21:38] <gnarface> No pleasure, no rapture, no exquisite sin greater... than central air.
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[22:05] <SwK> gnarface: actually there is 1 thing greater
[22:05] <SwK> gnarface: thats the portable AC unit next to my desk for when the central air is not working properly heh
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[22:12] <Guest9611> hi
[22:12] <- *Guest9611* hi
[22:12] <Eduard_Munteanu> Guest9611: hi
[22:12] <Guest9611> hi all
[22:13] <Guest9611> how u ED
[22:13] <Guest9611> r u male or female?
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[22:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> Guest9611: leetspeak best be avoided in here
[22:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> The former.
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