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[1:31] <Hello_> Hello?
[1:31] <mumixam> hi
[1:32] <Hello_> Does anyone know if there is plans for an rpi camera withOUT the IR filter?
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[1:41] <mumixam> maybe try #raspberrypi ?
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[8:52] <penguin_books> hi
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[10:30] <ZIPY> hi, my xbmc is idling by using 90% of cpu usage.. is there any way to reduce that?
[10:34] <ragedragon> hw accel?
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[10:36] <ZIPY> hmm someone wrote to change dirty regions
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[10:51] <rasp-test> Hi,
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[10:51] <rasp-test> i cannot find the syslinux package on rasbian
[10:52] <hifi> syslinux wouldn't run on the pi
[10:52] <hifi> there is very little reason for it to exist
[10:54] <rasp-test> i have a reason: i would like the pi to be able to create live USB keys (being able to run on laptops) when a USB key is plugged on the fly
[10:57] <hifi> there a reason why you don't want to pre-create the image and just write the already created image?
[10:59] <rasp-test> yes, the image depends on another plugged USB key (there is a shared directory to be passed, not only the live system)
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[11:00] <hifi> why you can't modify the target key after you have written the standard image?
[11:01] <rasp-test> i would like to allow installing a live system on the FAT while keeping existing data if there is enough space.
[11:02] <hifi> you don't need the actual syslinux package for that
[11:02] <hifi> you can dd the boot sector in (doesn't override any pertitions) and just copy the syslinux binaries
[11:02] <hifi> partitions*
[11:03] <hifi> extracting any compiled syslinux package has the same files as they are all for x86 afaik
[11:04] <rasp-test> Well, i have to create the ldlinux.sys binary from the syslinux.cfg files, not only overwriting the beginning of the MBR
[11:04] <rasp-test> syslinux command does that
[11:05] <rasp-test> you can have a look about the clone/upgrade procedure here: http://sagedebianlive.metelu.net/
[11:09] <ZIPY> k i got it to work, my xbmc is now using 15-20% of cpu on idling only. this was the solution: http://selfprogramming.bplaced.net/index.php/2013/03/29/reduce-cpu-consumption-in-xbmc-121-for-raspberry-pi/
[11:12] <hifi> rasp-test: syslinux might use x86 specific code because the debian syslinux package is built only for amd64 and i386
[11:15] <rasp-test> to the best of my knowledge, when you launch the syslinux command, it creates the binary ldlinux.sys, and hardcode a link to this file in the MBR. So i guess any system could do this ?
[11:17] <hifi> you sure it just doesn't launch the binary from the first partition?
[11:18] <hifi> because I've written the mbr binary to thumb drives before
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[11:25] <rasp-test> The fact is that you can put the file ldlinux.sys anywhere in the filesystem (with the -d option), so my understanding was that there is a pointer to the physical adress of this binary file, without using the filesystem. I will investigate more (the syslinux wiki is not very clear about this).
[11:26] <rasp-test> (the bios is not assumed to browse the filesystem until it finds such a file)
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[11:33] <gnarface> rasp-test: you know that there's no "BIOS" per-se on the arm architecture, right?
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[12:01] <hifi> gnarface: it's used to clone x86 booting usb keys
[12:01] <hifi> it doesn't really matter on what platform you do the cloning
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[13:51] <rasp-test> gnarface: yes i know, i want the raspberry pi to produce live USB which will be then used on x86 laptops, like a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Toaster without screen or keyboard. But i do not want only dd a iso file, i want to write on a FAT system and then run syslinux.
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[14:26] <rasp-test> i did some tests and actually, the MBR is not modified while running syslinux, but the VBR ("Volume boot record", at the beginning of the bootable partinion) is modified to point to the physical location of ldlinux.sys, so that the BIOS does not have to understand filesystems, it seems confirmed by https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Syslinux#Syslinux_boot_process
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[14:28] <rasp-test> s/partinion/partition/
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[16:54] <dexta> afternoon
[16:55] <rasp-test> okay, everything but the last syslinux command works on the raspberry for cloning/upgrading the key. If someone knows how to compile syslinux for raspbian, please tell me at rasp.syslinux@sagedebianlive.metelu.net
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[17:01] <jerd> So I read this page (http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianInstaller), but I'm not sure how to install the OS on a USB drive. Can anyone explain this to me?
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[21:08] <Datalink> is there a way to switch from avconv to ffmpeg?
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[21:15] <BayaBaya> Hello, Im looking for help
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[21:17] <passstab> hi BayaBaya
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[21:18] <BayaBaya> Hi passstab, Im having an issue with kernel compilation on Raspbian
[21:23] <BayaBaya> Hellooooo.... Please help
[21:24] <passstab> sorry, both those things are way above my head
[21:26] <applepi> BayaBaya: I might be able to help; are you compiling a kernel ON raspbian, or compiling raspbian?
[21:27] <BayaBaya> Well, to be honest I have misspoke a little - kernel is compiled (3.8.13) but I have no idea how to boot it....
[21:27] <BayaBaya> And yes I have compiled it on Raspbian
[21:28] <applepi> ahhh.
[21:29] <applepi> one moment, it's been too long since I did this to be able to remember what to edit off hand.
[21:30] <BayaBaya> thanks applepi
[21:31] <BayaBaya> its real pain in the bum, I cant seem to get the grasp of it
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[21:31] <applepi> I've done it on x86; I'm glancing over doing it on the Pi.
[21:32] <BayaBaya> yeah thats a problem, its arm processor so no grub I think
[21:33] <applepi> How far along have you gotten?
[21:34] <applepi> Looks like first thing is to copy the kernel image over to /boot (with a new name, don't overwrite the existing one) and then edit /boot/config.txt to point to the new image name
[21:35] <applepi> Take a look at http://elinux.org/RPi_Kernel_Compilation#Transfer_the_build and see if that helps you.
[21:36] <BayaBaya> the image is vmlinuz and its in /boot already. I had a look at config.txt and there is no variable pointing at kernel so should I create a line myself?
[21:39] <applepi> there's no 'kernel=' line in /boot/config.txt?
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[21:41] <BayaBaya> nope there is no line
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[21:42] <BayaBaya> if i created one, would that theoretically help. unfortunatelly i have no access to my pi at the moment so cant check
[21:44] <applepi> i'm not sure. perhaps. like i said, i've not done this on the pi before and don't have one handy.
[21:45] <BayaBaya> ok, I guess I will try to create that line myself and see what happens. whats a bootloader for raspbian, whats it called>
[21:45] <BayaBaya> ?
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[21:46] <BayaBaya> would installing berryboot help?
[21:47] <applepi> i would not mess with your bootloader beyond pointing it to the new kernel
[21:47] <applepi> i don't recall what bootloader it has.
[21:47] <applepi> maybe u-boot. it's a popular bootloader for arm.
[21:47] <BayaBaya> well Im aware of it and I would not mess with it, its just that I have no idea which is the bootloader and whats it called
[21:49] <BayaBaya> anyway thanks for the shot at it applepi, I appreciate it.
[21:51] <applepi> i would just attempt kernel= and see how that goes. there are other steps there you need to go through as well though, of course. best of luck.
[21:51] <BayaBaya> what steps are you talking about applepi ?
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[21:52] <applepi> In the link I provided you, it provides steps for how to install the modules and such.
[21:53] <BayaBaya> oh ok, thats all sorted
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[21:57] <BayaBaya> by the way, kernel source was downloaded from kernel.org
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[21:59] <krytzz> are there any known crashes with kernel 3.9?
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