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IRC Log for 2013-08-09

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[9:22] <BW^-> what bandwidth can the Raspberry's SPI bus handle?
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[10:09] <gordonDrogon> 32Mb/sec.
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[10:10] <gordonDrogon> However there is an inter-byte gap of approximately one clock and there is a ather high kernel latency on starting an SPI transaction.
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[17:43] <plugwash> damn atlas
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[17:49] <HelenaNetbook> Hello
[17:50] <HelenaNetbook> I think my nic is faulty as it keeps dropping, how can I determine this? My IRC client (HelenaKitty) has been dropping in and out of IRC also there is a lot of packet loss in general. I checked the configs on the pi but all looks good then I checked the ethernet line and everything that seems okay too so now it all comes down to faulty nic on the pi but I want to make sure of this.
[17:51] <PhotoJim> you're sure it's not your Internet connection in general? (This is a wired connection I'm assuming?)
[17:51] <HelenaNetbook> Positive
[17:52] <HelenaNetbook> I checked the whole network
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[17:52] <HelenaNetbook> SO how do I check the nic?
[17:52] <PhotoJim> you've tried a different piece of Ethernet cable?
[17:52] <HelenaNetbook> No, I used a cable tester.
[17:52] <HelenaNetbook> the cable works fine
[17:52] <PhotoJim> I'm not sure you can easily check the NIC, although if you look at the output of "ifconfig eth0" on your Pi it will give you some error reports. if the errors are local, you'll see errors in the output.
[17:52] <HelenaNetbook> I tested the switches, they work fine
[17:53] <PhotoJim> well, try another cable to be absolutely sure. it may not be seating reliably in your Pi, e.g.
[17:53] <PhotoJim> it's the easiest thing to test.
[17:53] <HelenaNetbook> PhotoJim: Tried
[17:53] <HelenaNetbook> but...
[17:53] <HelenaNetbook> how would it not be seating now
[17:53] <PhotoJim> RX packets:230339 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[17:53] <PhotoJim> TX packets:10934 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[17:53] <PhotoJim> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[17:53] <HelenaNetbook> if it's always seated in fine?
[17:53] <HelenaNetbook> Yeah I know of ifconfig
[17:53] <HelenaNetbook> and checked it
[17:53] <PhotoJim> those are the important lines in my ifconfig output. no errors, no dropped packets, no overruns, no frame errors, no carrier errors, no collisions.
[17:54] <PhotoJim> if it's all zeroes, the problem isn't local.
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[17:54] <PhotoJim> and as for seating, a simple piece of lint in your Ethernet port might make one or more of the pins connect intermittently.
[17:54] <PhotoJim> even if the cable locks in.
[17:55] <HelenaNetbook> Same here
[17:55] <PhotoJim> then your problem is elsewhere.
[17:55] <HelenaNetbook> but...
[17:56] <HelenaNetbook> I tried several ethernet cables
[17:56] <HelenaNetbook> on the pi
[17:56] <PhotoJim> got another local Linux machine? ssh from your Pi to it (or vice versa) and see if the connection is stable.
[17:56] <HelenaNetbook> same issue
[17:56] <PhotoJim> That all points to the problem not being your Pi or the cable then.
[17:56] <HelenaNetbook> I then tested the cables with the nic on another computer
[17:56] <PhotoJim> if you had Ethernet port errors, ifconfig would show it.
[17:56] <HelenaNetbook> only to find there is no network issue
[17:56] <HelenaNetbook> So what is it?!
[17:57] <HelenaNetbook> I am a penetration tester and never came across anything like this
[17:57] <PhotoJim> hard to say, but nothing points to it being your Pi.
[17:57] <PhotoJim> try a different port on your Ethernet switch maybe, but I doubt that will help if you're not getting errors.
[17:57] <HelenaNetbook> Well it's only my pi that's doing this PhotoJim
[17:57] <HelenaNetbook> I did
[17:57] <HelenaNetbook> same issue
[17:57] <PhotoJim> my guess is you've got some flakiness between you and the Internet site you're having trouble with.
[17:57] <PhotoJim> might be the Pi is more sensitive to it.
[17:57] <HelenaNetbook> I disagree
[17:57] <HelenaNetbook> wait...
[17:58] <PhotoJim> install mtr and do a path test to the remote site you're having problems with. that will tell you where you're getting packet loss.
[17:58] <HelenaNetbook> sensativity
[17:58] <HelenaNetbook> ur saying a pi is sensative to 20 IRC networks?
[17:58] <HelenaNetbook> and even sensative to google?
[17:58] <HelenaNetbook> same flakiness with the IRC client closed
[17:58] <PhotoJim> I'm saying maybe the Pi's IRC client gives up sooner.
[17:58] <HelenaNetbook> I can ping google for so song
[17:58] <PhotoJim> well, search for packet loss.
[17:58] <HelenaNetbook> I do
[17:58] <HelenaNetbook> ping reports packet loss
[17:59] <PhotoJim> you have your theory, I have mine. mtr will tell you where the problem really is.
[17:59] <PhotoJim> mtr will tell you where it is. it could be local, it could be remote.
[17:59] <HelenaNetbook> on all hosts I've tried
[17:59] <HelenaNetbook> What is mtr?
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[17:59] <PhotoJim> "my traceroute"
[17:59] <PhotoJim> sudo apt-get install mtr
[17:59] <HelenaNetbook> Why not just use traceroute?
[17:59] <PhotoJim> very useful Linux command line utility
[17:59] <HelenaNetbook> Is it CLI?
[17:59] <PhotoJim> mtr is far more useful to find packet loss.
[17:59] <PhotoJim> yes.
[17:59] <HelenaNetbook> GOOD!
[17:59] <PhotoJim> it's small and lean.
[17:59] <HelenaNetbook> Because I don't use X
[17:59] <PhotoJim> I've run it on a 486.
[18:00] <PhotoJim> you'll like it fine I predict.
[18:01] <PhotoJim> just install it, then type "mtr name.of.remote.host" and it will run tests for as long as you let it
[18:01] <PhotoJim> it'll show you on which hop you get packet loss, or on which hops if there are multiple
[18:01] <PhotoJim> you'll quickly learn if it's local or not.
[18:02] <PhotoJim> gotta go have lunch, back in an hour... let me know what you learn
[18:02] <HelenaNetbook> wow 20% loss to google
[18:02] <HelenaNetbook> 20% loss to a device on the local network
[18:03] <HelenaNetbook> even loss to the router
[18:03] <HelenaNetbook> yet...
[18:03] <HelenaNetbook> I get no loss at all using other devices via ethernet
[18:03] <HelenaNetbook> see?
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[18:07] <HelenaNetbook> PhotoJim: I believe it is the pi
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[21:22] <jostein_> hi! I'm running the latest Rasbian and I'm having an issue with typing Norwegian characters from the console. Typing the Norwegian characters on the tty login shows the characters, but not when I am logged on. I've run raspi-config, 4-options, 3-keyb layout, chosen generic 105 (intl) PC, Norwegian, default AltrGr, no compose key. Also I've set locale to nb_NO.UTF-8. This is how the Norwegian characters looks like.. æøå
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[21:23] <jostein_> When I type æøå from the console, the console outputs (arg: 8) and wants me to type another key... is this related to compose key?
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