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[6:52] <josvuk> hello, if i do shutdown now when Im logged in over ssh conection to my raspberry pi ...and if I do ping to my rasberry pi and it don't respond
[6:52] <josvuk> is it then in a save state to power off the raspberry pi?
[6:53] <josvuk> so I mean to push the powerconetor (5V) off ?
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[7:21] <gnarface> josvuk: probably, but just to be sure myself i usually give it 20-30 more seconds after the lights stop flashing to make sure
[7:22] <gnarface> josvuk: to make sure its not still shutting down other processes; the network may not necessarily be shut down last
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[7:49] <gnarface> josvuk: actually, to be clear the network almost certainly won't shut down last, but its likely the rest of the system will not take all that long in total to shut down
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[7:54] <josvuk> gnarface: Hm, ok thx.
[7:54] <josvuk> quite complex thing this shuting down ........
[7:55] <gnarface> josvuk: well in principle its quite simple really. if you have a display hooked to the pi it should be obvious when its finished shutting down. if you're impatient and don't have a display you can also find SD cards with a LED that will blink while the drive is being accessed ...
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[7:59] <josvuk> Hm, I have not found a schematic of the raspberry pi to find the led wich indicates the access of the sd card.
[7:59] <mike_t> josvuk, it's ACT led
[7:59] <josvuk> the hole raspberry is built in an enclosure so the built-in leds are not visible
[8:00] <josvuk> but I have four switches with leds on my frontplate
[8:01] <gnarface> that reminds me
[8:01] <gnarface> i need to build a new lego van for my pi
[8:01] <gnarface> i'm getting tired of the old one because it doesn't feature the lights prominently enough
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[8:03] <mike_t> josvuk, you can use it but you need to patch the kernel // http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=52893&p=408250
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[21:13] <fordcars> Hi
[21:13] <fordcars> I have a problem, apt-get update fails because it can't find the method drivber
[21:15] <fordcars> E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/http// could not be found.
[21:15] <fordcars> This is what I get when I use apt-get update
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[22:52] <fordcars> Hi, why is apt-get update using /usr/lib/apt/methods/http//?
[22:52] <fordcars> i have the right sources.list
[22:52] <fordcars> http://pastie.org/8275248
[22:56] <plugwash> do you have any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ? if so do their contents look sane?
[22:57] <plugwash> does /usr/lib/apt/methods/http exist on your system? if so is it a regular file and executable?
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[23:11] <fordcars> hey, sorry Irc crashed :P
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[23:11] <fordcars> I don't have a sources.list.d
[23:12] <fordcars> http is an executable
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[23:24] <plugwash> The other than trying to reinstall apt and related packages manually I can't really help much
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[23:28] <fordcars> :/
[23:28] <fordcars> OK, thanks anyway!
[23:29] <fordcars> wait!
[23:29] <fordcars> I have the folder sources.list.d
[23:30] <Stevie-O> reinstalling apt is doable; reinstalling dpkg is less so
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[23:33] <fordcars> WOW
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[23:33] <Stevie-O> where did rotorgeek go
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[23:33] <Stevie-O> there he is
[23:36] <fordcars> heh if I remove raspi.list in source.list.d, is it a problem?
[23:37] <plugwash> not a massive one, it just means you won't get any upgrades to raspberry pi foundation supplied packages
[23:39] <fordcars> It seems i's not the right url in it, can I get the correct one?
[23:40] <fordcars> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/dists/wheezy/Release.gpg Unable to connect to archive.raspbian.org:http:
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[23:42] <raidensnake> is there a problem with the mirror director link?
[23:43] <raidensnake> all i get when i do apt-get update is error 111 connection refused
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[23:44] <plugwash> I was doing some work on the server and I had to take most of the services down so I could move /var to it's own lv
[23:44] <plugwash> should all be back up now
[23:44] <raidensnake> got it thanks
[23:45] <fordcars> plugwash, what is the right url for etc/apt/sources.list.d/raspi.list
[23:45] <raidensnake> the default link was temporarily down
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[23:46] <fordcars> ih ok
[23:46] <raidensnake> it just came back up for me
[23:47] <raidensnake> I'm using a clean raspbian which works great
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[23:48] <Stevie-O> has anyone here followed the directions on a qemu raspbian at xcedesign.com ?
[23:49] <ShiftPlusOne> Stevie-O, what's the problem?
[23:49] <Stevie-O> ah
[23:49] <plugwash> fordcars, deb http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/ wheezy main
[23:49] <Stevie-O> There's Shift :)
[23:49] <ShiftPlusOne> =)
[23:49] <fordcars> thanks plugwash!
[23:50] <Stevie-O> well I downloaded http://qemu.weilnetz.de/w64/qemu-w64-setup-20130817.exe, and kernel-qemu, and the latest wheezy image
[23:50] <ShiftPlusOne> and you get a black screen?
[23:50] <raidensnake> I prefer the network installer
[23:50] <Stevie-O> and when I run a command line, qemu pops open a window that does not appear to be doing anything
[23:50] <Stevie-O> yes
[23:50] <Stevie-O> What woefully obvious thing have I missed?
[23:50] <ShiftPlusOne> Stevie-O, some issue with the windows version of qemu and my kernel-qemu. I don't what what the exact problem is yet.
[23:51] <plugwash> did you tell qemu what kernel to load?
[23:51] <ShiftPlusOne> If you use a more generic arm kernel for qemu it seems to work ok
[23:51] <Stevie-O> uh
[23:51] <ShiftPlusOne> http://sourceforge.net/projects/rpiqemuwindows/files/qemu.zip/download
[23:51] <ShiftPlusOne> there is one in that zip there... I should upload it for people who run into the same problem
[23:51] <Stevie-O> okay
[23:52] <raidensnake> I have the raw version of jessie armhf
[23:52] <Stevie-O> it's weird. I get no output, not even error messages
[23:52] <fordcars> hi, I have a really stupid question, etc/apt/sources.list.d
[23:52] <fordcars> the file in there is raspi.list, right?
[23:52] <ShiftPlusOne> Stevie-O, give me a minute, I'll upload a kernel that works.
[23:52] <Stevie-O> okay
[23:52] <plugwash> the contents of any files in there regardless of name will be treated as part of sources.list
[23:53] <fordcars> Really? Because I kindof renamed raspi.list, so it's fine?
[23:53] <plugwash> renaming it won't change anything much (possiblly the order in which sources are looked at but that doesn't usually matter)
[23:54] <Stevie-O> effective sources.list: (cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*)
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[23:57] <ShiftPlusOne> Stevie-O, http://xecdesign.com/downloads/linux-qemu/zImage_3.1.9
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[23:58] <Stevie-O> let's see how that fares
[23:58] <Stevie-O> this does not appear to be doing the trick :(
[23:59] <ShiftPlusOne> hm =/
[23:59] <Stevie-O> have you tested this on a Windows machine?
[23:59] <ShiftPlusOne> I have not, I was told that this is the solution on the forum.
[23:59] <ShiftPlusOne> scratch that then
[23:59] <Stevie-O> could you link to that post? Did they change the command line?
[23:59] <Stevie-O> also: use qemu-system-i386 to boot windows, inside that, use qemu-system-arm to boot rpi
[23:59] <Stevie-O> :D
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