#raspbian IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-09-02

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[2:14] <blindrage> is raspbian a rolling release?
[2:14] <PhotoJim> no
[2:15] <blindrage> is there a release schedule or is wheezy going to be supported for a while?
[2:15] <blindrage> just curious what the deprecation looks like
[2:16] <PhotoJim> Debian is the parent distro, and Debian distros tend to be supported quite a long time
[2:16] <PhotoJim> it's a very conservative distribution
[2:16] <blindrage> yea, i was just curious if raspbian inhereited that
[2:16] <blindrage> i know ubuntu likes rolling and has set release schedules but no idea on the pi version
[2:16] <PhotoJim> sure seems so
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[2:17] <plugwash> We will likely continue building updates for rapsbian wheezy until debian wheezy reaches OEL, the update rate is pretty low anyway.
[2:17] <plugwash> *EOL
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[2:18] <plugwash> Raspbian jessie will likewise continue to track debian jessie, it will have to be evaluated when the time comes whether it's worth setting up a raspbian release to track the debian release after jessie
[2:18] <blindrage> true. i've been trying to decide what i want to stick with. didn't care for redsleeve, and i love fedora but their upgrade process is terrible. since it's more a media device i wondered if it would take the ubuntu route
[2:19] <blindrage> but there really aren't huge jumps for arm based releases so i could see the update rate being low
[2:20] <blindrage> wow i didn't realize most debian supported lifetimes were ~1000days
[2:20] <blindrage> i think i'll be good for a while haha
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[2:57] <zombieman> does anyone know how can i convert this '09/01/2013' into this '2013-09-01' in php
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[5:06] <bais> hi
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[5:14] <bais_> I'm back :)
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[6:22] <grim> i just installed rasbian from the installer for the second time now, and every time it finishes and reboots, I get no video. This is on a rev 2 model b. any thoughts?
[6:26] * River_Rat is now known as RiverRat
[6:32] <graffi> check "runlevel" in /etc/inittab file first
[6:35] <ShiftPlusOne> grim, no video as in no signal or no video as in a blank screen?
[6:35] <grim> ShiftPlusOne: no signal
[6:36] <grim> ShiftPlusOne: i tried the sdcard in a rev1 model b and same issue
[6:36] <ShiftPlusOne> then the OS has nothing to do with it.
[6:36] <grim> i tried using hte latest rpi-firmware yesterday and that didn't make a difference either
[6:36] <ShiftPlusOne> Do you know if it's actually booting?
[6:36] <grim> ShiftPlusOne: how would I tell?
[6:37] <ShiftPlusOne> what's happening with the OK led when you power it up?
[6:37] <ShiftPlusOne> *ACCT led
[6:38] <grim> is that the green one? it's solid
[6:38] <grim> i'm comparing the boot code from the rpi_installer.zip and whats on the key now
[6:38] <grim> er sdcard
[6:38] <ShiftPlusOne> no flickering?
[6:39] <grim> nothing, completely solid
[6:39] <grim> and it can't be the pi's because the installer boots fine every time
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[6:39] <ShiftPlusOne> sorry, gtg, I'll be back in a bit.
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[6:39] <hifi> grim: the premade image boots?
[6:40] <grim> hifi: i haven't tried it, but i have a raspbmc image that boots
[6:40] <hifi> if you're trying to get a small base system running, you can also try raspbian-ua-netinst that does smaller bootstrap than the official installer
[6:40] <hifi> and it should boot with the same kernel and firmware it installs with
[6:41] <grim> i've already installed 3 times, I don't really want to do it again if I can avoid it ;)
[6:42] <hifi> your system already has stuff on it?
[6:42] <ShiftPlusOne> aaand back. I see no reason why you wouldn't be getting a signal if the kernel boots. =/
[6:42] <grim> hifi: no, it just takes forever to install
[6:42] <hifi> raspbian-ua-netinst installs the base system in ~15 minutes
[6:43] <grim> fancy that, it's on your github :P
[6:43] <hifi> I'm fairly positive it would boot with signal if the installer boots with video
[6:44] <ShiftPlusOne> Yeah, the description of the problem doesn't make sense. The only thing I can think of is a problem in config.txt =/
[6:44] <hifi> I don't know what the raspbian somewhat official netinstaller does after installing
[6:44] <hifi> but I know what raspbian-ua-netinst does :p
[6:45] <grim> $ ls -l /media/usb0/config.txt
[6:45] <grim> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Sep 2 2013 /media/usb0/config.txt
[6:45] <ShiftPlusOne> hifi, does your installer add the foundation repos and tweaks?
[6:45] <hifi> ShiftPlusOne: it adds the foundation repo but it doesn't install anything
[6:45] <grim> is an empty config.txt a problem/
[6:45] <hifi> grim: nope
[6:45] <hifi> if you have kernel.img in there
[6:46] <ShiftPlusOne> shouldn't be, but if your display is in some way problematic, it may need some special setting... maybe, but I doubt it.
[6:46] <hifi> the raspbian installer probably has different configuration for installing and booting the installed system
[6:46] <grim> ShiftPlusOne: again, the installer and raspbmc are fine, and Ive tried hdmi and composite
[6:46] <ShiftPlusOne> grim, and is the config.txt that comes with the installer and raspbmc also blank?
[6:46] <hifi> raspbian-ua-netinst uses the same kernel and configuration (except some additions in cmdline.txt)
[6:47] <grim> i'm going to give raspbian-ua-netinst a go, but i'm creating an image of this sdcard first..
[6:47] <grim> ShiftPlusOne: the installer doesn't have one and I can't check raspbmc at the moment (only one sd reader)
[6:47] <ShiftPlusOne> ah, hm
[6:48] <grim> hopefull this image wont take forever, it is a 16gb sd card :-/
[6:48] <hifi> it will
[6:49] <grim> blah i'm getting about 1gb read every 2 mins
[6:49] <grim> 30 mins to read this
[6:49] <grim> grr
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[6:49] <hifi> even at around theoretical maximum it would take 8 minutes to read it
[6:50] <grim> yeah i'm getting about 8.3m/s
[6:50] <grim> alright screw it...
[6:50] <hifi> rest assured if the installer works your system will be a clean raspbian install
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[6:50] <hifi> if it doesn't, well, you bricked another install ;)
[6:51] <grim> nice use of xzcat, you don't see many people recommend using *cat commands ;)
[6:52] <hifi> people here have complained that they use sudo and it doesn't work with it
[6:52] <hifi> I like to think it as a safety mechanism for copy & paste people
[6:53] <grim> they should be in the plugdev group for their distro, no sudo needed
[6:53] <hifi> depends on a lot of things
[6:54] <grim> yeah, well you could do it with dd as well, ie, unxz raspbian-us-netinst-latest.img.xz | dd of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=1M
[6:54] <grim> and if they need sudo, put it just before the dd
[6:55] <hifi> that's what I've been recommended a couple of times
[6:55] <grim> heh
[6:55] <grim> i will say, this was nicer than having to repartition/format/unzip the installer so far ;)
[6:56] <hifi> buildroot.sh takes care of that
[6:56] <hifi> altough very error prone, works for me (tm)
[6:56] <grim> heh
[6:57] <grim> man i need to get apt-cacher-ng setup again
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[6:58] <grim> woo just started configuring packages
[6:58] <hifi> that was fast
[6:59] <grim> maybe not, just unpacked the raspbian-archive-keyring
[7:00] <hifi> if it boots properly I will start to believe raspbian-ua-netinst cures cancer and achieves world peace
[7:00] <grim> heh i dunno about all that, but I'll be grateful if it does :)
[7:01] <hifi> if it doesn't, remove stuff from cmdline.txt until it does
[7:01] <grim> well the raspian installers matched what was left on the key before (which doesn't make sense either, there was only one partition)
[7:01] <grim> unless bootcode.bin ignored it
[7:02] <grim> i assume openssh is near the end?
[7:02] <hifi> yeah, it's one of the extra packages
[7:03] <grim> that's configuring right now
[7:03] <grim> probably trying to generate a key
[7:04] <grim> and it booted ;)
[7:04] <grim> just ssh'd in, thank you *VERY* much
[7:04] <hifi> cancer cured!
[7:05] <hifi> you should read the post-install recommendations from the github page
[7:05] <grim> yeah doing that already :)
[7:05] <grim> thanks for not creating a user for me to delete ;)
[7:05] <hifi> heh
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[7:06] <grim> wth, i just tried to install sudo and it wasn't found, running apt-get update now
[7:07] <hifi> you need to run update first of course
[7:07] <hifi> on any clean debian install I think
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[7:07] <grim> not from a netinstal, the package lists get cached (i think..)
[7:07] <hifi> you now also have the choice to switch from raspbian 3.6 kernel to foundation kernel if you so please
[7:07] <grim> i haven't done a full debian install in years, they just keep running/updating ;)
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[7:08] <grim> whats the difference?
[7:09] <hifi> raspbian kernels are built by raspbian devs and they are based on debian kernels and packages
[7:10] <grim> right, but functionally...
[7:10] <hifi> where foundation kernels are based on mainline kernel and built by foundation
[7:10] <grim> and is that what the linux-image-rpi-rpfv is?
[7:10] <hifi> that's the raspbian kernel
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[7:11] <hifi> no kernel package is installed by default by raspbian-ua-netinst to you need to make that choice on first boot
[7:11] <hifi> or you'll end up having no modules for your running kernel nor updates
[7:12] <hifi> I'm recommending the raspbian kernel because it's based on debian packages and should in the future get regular security patches from upstream debian
[7:12] <hifi> while the foundation kernel does whatever the foundation wants
[7:12] <hifi> but it possibly has more up-to-date pi related code
[7:12] <grim> ah gotcha
[7:12] <grim> i'm going with the raspbian one for now
[7:12] <hifi> both have packages available as the foundation repo is added to source.list by the installer
[7:13] <grim> this pi is just going to be a build slave, all i really need is cpu/network anyways :)
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[7:14] <hifi> then it should be a perfect base for build slave :)
[7:14] <grim> yeah I hope so :)
[7:15] <hifi> if you're building a build cluster then you could add custom post install script to raspbian-ua-netinst to bootstrap many pis
[7:15] <grim> it's just a single pi, for my jenkins setup
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[7:16] <grim> btw with linux-image-rpi-rpfv, /vmlinuz is a symlink to the correct file (ie no need to copy)
[7:17] <hifi> /boot is fat32
[7:17] <hifi> the gpu can only read the /boot partition
[7:17] <grim> so, / is ext4 and support symlinks
[7:18] <hifi> and copyiong /vmlinuz which is a symlink to /boot/real-vmlinuz to /boot/kernel.img effectively copies the real file over the old kernel image
[7:18] <grim> i have 2 .img and a vmlinuz in /boot, all 3 have the same md5sum
[7:18] <hifi> /vmlinuz is the univeral symlink to whatever kernel debian/raspbian considers the latest one
[7:18] <grim> and like any other linux system, /vmlinuz is a symlink
[7:19] <hifi> it's a workaround to bug/missing feature
[7:19] <hifi> that when you install any raspbian kernel it doesn't configure the pi to boot with that kernel
[7:19] <grim> ok, i'm just saying all my .img and vmlinuz's in /boot are the same
[7:19] <hifi> and the latest 3.6 kernel happens to be the same as the one the installer is built from
[7:19] <grim> ok, well then a postinst script should be added to the kernel package to update /vmlinuz
[7:19] <hifi> not really
[7:20] <hifi> /vmlinuz is updated I think
[7:20] <hifi> what should be done is update /boot/kernel.img
[7:20] <hifi> but even that might be a bad idea
[7:20] <grim> ok right, but /boot/kernel.img has to be correct, gotcha
[7:20] <hifi> it would be best to update config.txt to point to the latest kernel
[7:21] <hifi> if you want to play it right manually
[7:21] <hifi> instead of replacing kernel.img with /vmlinuz destination kernel
[7:22] <hifi> but that's something I can't directly give instructions as the latest kernel image pointed to by linux-image-rpi-rpfv might get updated to something else than 3.6 later on
[7:22] <hifi> so the kernel file name would be different
[7:22] <hifi> that copy hack is just universal
[7:22] * grim shrugs
[7:22] <grim> second boot went fine too :)
[7:22] <hifi> and because hitler and fat32 it effectively does a hard copy
[7:22] <hifi> over explained
[7:23] <hifi> if you want a post-install hook bug plugwash ;)
[7:23] <hifi> it should probably be some extra package that does the kernel.img update when installed
[7:23] <hifi> or config.txt update
[7:23] <grim> yeah, wait, debian has kernel hooks that could be used for this
[7:24] <hifi> but overall the changes should be made to raspbian and not raspbian-ua-netinst
[7:24] <grim> you might want to mention setting the hostname on the firstboot too, but whatever, just don't forget to have them update /etc/hosts
[7:24] <grim> agreed
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[8:55] <sjea> hello all
[8:55] <sjea> I have a question anyone around
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[8:59] <sjea> I ask and just idle I just put a movie on my server and it show as a MKV but when trying to play it it studders and stays on the menu part the lettering is Orange, All my other films are MKV so that should not be the problem just to test I installed xbmc on my windows box and the movie plays fine any thought thank you for your answer
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[9:00] <ShiftPlusOne> sjea, as i understand it, mkv is just a container, so it really doesn't say much about how the file is actually encoded.
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[9:02] <sjea> Touching.the.Void.2003.BluRay.Remux.1080p.VC-1.DTS-HD.HRA.5.1-HiFi hope this does not brake any rules in here
[9:03] <sjea> ShiftPlusOne: not sure if that helps you
[9:03] <sjea> just not sure why it would play on computer and not pi ?
[9:04] <wiiguy> because a pc is more advance ?
[9:05] <ShiftPlusOne> sjea, do you have the VC-1 license key by any chance?
[9:05] <sjea> ok i can except that wiiguy
[9:05] <sjea> no this woudl be the 1st time I ran into that
[9:06] <sjea> is this one of those time I need to buy something ?
[9:06] <ShiftPlusOne> You're tying to play a 1080p without any hardware acceleration.
[9:06] <sjea> i will just did not know
[9:07] <ShiftPlusOne> I am not saying that this is THE problem, but it's certainly a problem.
[9:07] <ShiftPlusOne> http://www.raspberrypi.com/
[9:07] <sjea> would you happen to have a link so I can see the different codec i may need if that is the right term ?
[9:07] <sjea> whoops thank you will look
[9:08] <wiiguy> lets hyope it will work for ya
[9:08] <wiiguy> let us know :)
[9:08] <ShiftPlusOne> In case you are wondering why you need to pay for a codec for a pi, but not your PC, it's because the price of the codecs is built into the price of your graphics card.
[9:08] <sjea> that sure makes since
[9:09] <sjea> sure ic this raspberry pi is new to me and i love it
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[9:09] <bais> hi
[9:09] <wiiguy> yo
[9:10] <bais> exist a raspbian vm version?
[9:11] <sjea> I will let you know when I order how does it install ? silly question but just not sure
[9:11] <wiiguy> it insalls trough a command i believe
[9:11] <wiiguy> installs*
[9:12] <sjea> that sorta what i just read
[9:12] <ShiftPlusOne> bais, what do you mean exactly?
[9:12] <wiiguy> so just ssh in too it
[9:12] <ShiftPlusOne> sjea, you get some text by email which you put into your config.txt
[9:13] <bais> https://code.google.com/p/armware/ I think this is answer.. but I need to understand is possible to set up it like an raspberry hardware.
[9:13] <sjea> OK thx
[9:13] <ShiftPlusOne> bais, you're after qemu, I think.
[9:13] <ShiftPlusOne> bais, http://xecdesign.com/qemu-emulating-raspberry-pi-the-easy-way/
[9:13] <bais> I think about qemu configuration
[9:14] <bais> let me see this link
[9:14] <bais> and thanks
[9:14] <ShiftPlusOne> np
[9:18] <bais> about omxplayer, I'm trying to contac (by email) developer for ask about black holes between video playing and overlay logos+rss feeds.
[9:22] <ShiftPlusOne> AFAIK, the original maintainer isn't active anymore and it's all dom now.
[9:23] <ShiftPlusOne> I am guessing the xbmc devs would be your next best bet, but I don't know how closely omxplayer follows xbmc's omxplayer, if at all.
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[9:25] <bais> I'm trying to compile my omxplayer version, with some modification I need
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[9:26] <bais> but before to begin with this "last beach" solution , I'm trying to concat developer for ask if he thinks to put them on some future version
[9:26] <etnt`> hi, what is the best way to install the kernel source for my 3.6.11+ kernel?
[9:27] <bais> contact
[9:27] <bais> :)
[9:27] <etnt`> I need to build an openvswitch kernel module...
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[9:27] <wiiguy> Sjea did it work ?
[9:28] <Sjea> have not got that far lol was trying to install a irc client non web base
[9:28] <wiiguy> :P
[9:28] <wiiguy> ah
[9:28] <Sjea> so i could idle
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[9:41] <Sjea> so was having trouble getting to cmd line ?
[9:42] <Sjea> via menu when to system and found a serial # there is that the same and my pi or different
[9:42] <hifi> etnt`: on raspbian, I suggest using the raspbian kernel 3.6 package and rebuilding it
[9:44] <hifi> and even then building kernel modules should not require recompiling the whole kernel
[9:44] <hifi> just installing the kernel headers package
[9:45] <Sjea> ok so ordered codic just have to wait
[9:46] <hifi> and there seems to be a package for that already, openvswitch-datapath-dkms
[9:46] <hifi> if you use the raspbian 3.6 kernel
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[9:53] <Sjea> THank you for you help I will let you know if that worked
[9:55] <etnt`> hifi: ok, thanks, btw I want the 1.11.0 release of openvswitch, hence the need for compiling it myself
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[9:55] <hifi> etnt`: still, install the 3.6 kernel package and headeres, compile module using the headers, or backport 1.11.0 source package from newer debian to raspbian
[9:55] <hifi> if such is available
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[11:04] <etnt`> hifi: I get Invalid module format, after compiling against /lib/modules/3.6-trunk-rpi/build
[11:04] <hifi> you need to use the real kernel
[11:05] <etnt`> hm..
[11:06] <hifi> install the 3.6 kernel package
[11:08] <etnt`> you mean the package named 'kernel-package' ?
[11:09] <hifi> linux-image-rpi-rpfv
[11:09] <hifi> it should be a meta package for 3.6
[11:10] <hifi> then you need to make sure your kernel.img is that one
[11:11] <bais> hostapd is best package for build an hotspot ?
[11:11] <hifi> or point config.txt to use the 3.6 kernel
[11:14] <etnt`> when installing that package, it says something about setting up 3.6.9-1~experimental.1+rpi6
[11:14] <etnt`> but I seem to run: Linux raspberrypi 3.6.11+ #474 PREEMPT Thu Jun 13 17:14:42 BST 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux
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[11:19] <hifi> etnt`: yes, you use the foundation kernel
[11:19] <hifi> you need to make sure your config.txt points to the 3.6.9 kernel and reboot
[11:19] <hifi> after that your built module should work
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[11:24] <etnt`> ehum..what should point to what? I can see my /boot/config.txt but it doesn't contain much which btw is behind comments
[11:25] <etnt`> there is a /boot/kernel.img, so should I add an entry: kernel=kernel_new.img in my /boot/config.txt ?
[11:26] <etnt`> sorry kernel=kernel.img I mean
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[11:46] <Ice_Strike> I am having problem getting tightvnc to work, see http://pastebin.com/eEpEtbhw
[11:47] <hifi> etnt`: you should have vmlinuz-something in your /boot
[11:47] <hifi> you should set kernel=vmlinuz-something
[11:48] <hifi> if it fails, be ready to swap out the SD card to fix your config on another machine
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[11:49] <etnt`> hifi: ok , I'll give it a try
[11:50] <hifi> if you can't find the vmlinuz file in your /boot then the kernel install was borked somehow
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[12:01] <etnt`> hifi: GREAT! it worked an my kernel module could be inserted, thanx a lot :-)
[12:01] <hifi> cool :)
[12:01] <hifi> tbh I didn't have high hopes
[12:04] <etnt`> hehe
[12:05] <hifi> at least now I know building modules on raspbian works as well as on debian
[12:05] <etnt`> yeah, a good exercise it was
[12:05] <hifi> as long as you use the raspbian kernel packages
[12:06] <hifi> if you want challenge try replicating that with the foundation kernel
[12:06] <Ice_Strike> I managed to get tightvnc working and I can connect it via vnc viwer but it is not showing on the screen when I do something on the vnc viwer ?
[12:07] <hifi> it runs a separate X desktop I assume
[12:08] <Ice_Strike> hmm
[12:09] <Ice_Strike> I did to connect it
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[12:18] <\\Mr_C\\> http://nextmicrosoftceo.com/
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[12:31] <Ice_Strike> What the fast browser I can install on raspbian?
[12:31] <hifi> midori is quite popular
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[13:17] <Ice_Strike> how to get youtube to work on browser?
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[17:05] <Ice_Strike> Is sound from HDMI disbaled on raspbian?
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[17:12] <keyvin> Ice_Strike, I get sound from HDMI on my monitor
[17:12] <keyvin> I have to go out of my way if I want to use the audio jack
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[17:17] <Ice_Strike> keyvin I am trying to get sound from TV plasma
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[17:18] <Ice_Strike> Where the volume setting on raspbian?
[17:18] <keyvin> run alsamixer
[17:18] <keyvin> for detailed usage instructions, run man alsamixer
[17:19] <keyvin> the f keys switch between different controls is all I know
[17:22] <Ice_Strike> Do I need to enable hdmi_drive=2?
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[17:24] <keyvin> Ice_Strike IDK, I hate to tell anyone to do this, but you might try google with that question :(. It just works for me.
[17:24] <Ice_Strike> :/
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[17:39] <hifi> Ice_Strike: it depends on your TV/monitor, you might need to add that
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[18:06] <Ice_Strike> Its working now :)
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[18:15] <nmrh> Hello, I'm looking for an raspberry Pi OS that supports html5 video. I was wondering if Raspbian has these capacities?
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[18:33] <Guest71279> hi is it possible to use backports on raspbian wheezy ?
[18:35] <sharky> hi, is there an install raspbian image (like the normal debian install *.iso) to install locally (not network install) ?
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[18:45] <gnarface> sharky: no, there isn't as far as i know, but the hardware manufacturer does distribute a fully pre-installed image from raspberrypi.org
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[18:46] <gnarface> sharky: note: raspberrypi.org != rasbpian.org (different people, though that is confusing)
[18:46] <hifi> the best option for offline install are the prebuilt images
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[18:46] <gnarface> nmrh: that would be a feature of the browser not the operating system i think
[18:46] <hifi> as gnarface said
[18:46] <sharky> gnarface, I want to use it as home server, that is why I wanted to install on base system (no X, ...), so that is why I asked
[18:47] <gnarface> sharky: ah, yes that's an unfortunate complication with the pre-installed images, they're definitely for desktop use not headless server use
[18:47] <hifi> sharky: so what's the issue with using netinstall if you're going to use it as a server?
[18:48] <sharky> hifi, I will try it eventually, just trying to find some *.iso, I always install locally
[18:48] <hifi> if you want a minimal base system to start adding your services, raspbian-ua-netinst
[18:49] <sharky> ok, thank you for your info gnarface and hifi
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[20:40] <Ubscene> hey can somebody help me? I have a rev1 board which boots only with older versions of raspbian and doesnt with new ones. Also if I rpi-update an older version it doesnt boot anymore (red light stuck, green only for a split second)
[20:45] <gordonDrogon> I have 3 Rev 1 boards that boot just fine.
[20:45] <gordonDrogon> I don't rpi-update anything though. just use standard raspbian.
[20:48] <Ubscene> for instance if I try to write the latest raspbian to sd it doesnt boot, but the raspbian installer (which has an older firmware) boots normally and I can install, but when I reboot I'm still at the same point :(
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[21:41] <gnarface> Ubscene: you're saying you can follow the instructions for installing raspbian here: http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianInstaller and then it boots but when you run rpi-update in that installation the new firmware kills it?
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[22:11] <Ubscene> gnarface: yes all that works but after the installation I cant even boot again
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[22:13] <Ubscene> It's really strange.. It seems like after a certain kernel version stops working with my RPi, could a kernel update break the compatibility with my sd card? unfortunately I don't have any other SD Cards to test
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[22:16] <gordonDrogon> you don't have to run rpi-update. I stopped doing that over 6 months ago.
[22:16] <gordonDrogon> just the usual apt-get update/upgrade now.
[22:16] <Ubscene> yea I tried not doing it
[22:16] <gordonDrogon> and?
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[22:18] <Ubscene> I think I found the problem, commenting gpu_mem=16 fixed it :)
[22:20] <gordonDrogon> you only need > 16 if you're using the gpu though.
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[22:45] <gnarface> Ubscene: yea maybe you just didn't give the driver enough ram to boot right for a later version
[22:45] <gnarface> Ubscene: i usually go with like 128
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[22:55] <gnarface> Ubscene: what you were talking about is totally possible in theory as well, but just seriously very highly unlikely because all of us would be having the same problem and we're not
[22:55] <gnarface> i actually *have* been running rpi-update periodically. should i not be doing that?
[22:55] <gnarface> i have also noticed fundamental changes in how it handles stuff i put in /boot/config.txt
[22:56] <gnarface> one change made mine unbootable until i changed something too
[22:56] <gnarface> it was also a memory related setting but i was setting it to dynamic (cmr or whatever0
[22:56] <gnarface> )
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[23:07] <Ubscene> gnarface: I don't have a clue honestly why it was working! I'm running pwnpi at the moment (raspbian with more packages i guess), I'm gonna try raspbian without that commented line
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[23:22] <BCMM> gnarface: i thought raspbian doesn't include rpi-update any more?
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[23:31] <plugwash> rpi-update has never been and never will be part of raspbian itself
[23:31] <plugwash> whether indiviual builders of installers or images choose to include it is up to them
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[23:34] <gnarface> are there packages for what rpi-update updates?
[23:34] <Ubscene> I still can't run the latest raspbian from a fresh image writing... I'm convinced that the problem is between start.elf and kernel.img
[23:35] <Ubscene> 1 green light as soon as I plug the usb cable, after that it's stuck on red light
[23:36] <gnarface> hmm
[23:37] <gnarface> plugwash: is there a raspbian packaged alternative for those firmwares i should be using instead?
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[23:39] <plugwash> The raspberry pi foundation have a packages in their repository called "raspberrypi-bootloader", "libraspberrypi0" and "libraspberrypi-dev" which contains their firmware, kernel and videocore libraries, iirc it's not as bleeding edge as what rpi-update pulls though
[23:40] <plugwash> We also have some packages in the "firmware" section of the raspbian repo if you preffer your firmware packages without a kernel
[23:40] <plugwash> Note: I do not reccomend enabling both the foundation repo and the firmware section of the raspbian repo at the same time
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[23:42] <Ubscene> I think there is some regression in the kernel/bootloader that makes my SD card incompatible. I definitely have to try another SD Card
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[23:46] <Ubscene> any recommendations for a new SD Card? looking through the wiki page there aren't many informations
[23:48] <PhotoJim> pay a few dollars and buy a brand-name one, that's my only suggestion
[23:49] <PhotoJim> mine are Kingston, and work perfectly. they were cheap but not the very cheapest.
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[23:55] <gnarface> SanDisk Ultra II
[23:55] <gnarface> II /II
[23:55] <gnarface> er, II or III i think they are

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