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[8:12] <Ankhwatcher> Hey! I want to start a screen at reboot with crontab and I want that screen to behave like a normal terminal (ie load up my environment)
[8:12] <Ankhwatcher> the solution to this seems to be to load .profile when starting the screen
[8:13] <Ankhwatcher> but http://picpaste.com/XUrBdiRS.png .profile doesn't exist!?!
[8:13] <Ankhwatcher> is it somewhere else, or should I be loading a different file?
[8:13] <shiftplusone> what do you bean by start a screen at reboot? Either way, you can always create the file.
[8:13] <shiftplusone> *mean O_o
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[8:14] <Ankhwatcher> shiftplusone: http://serverfault.com/questions/233084/how-do-i-use-crontab-to-start-a-screen-session
[8:15] <shiftplusone> and you're using it for a game server as well?
[8:15] <Ankhwatcher> no no
[8:15] <Ankhwatcher> just irssi
[8:15] <Ankhwatcher> but that doesn't really change anything this is still the right solution
[8:16] <shiftplusone> hm, let me think about it... not sure what .profile has to do with it.
[8:18] <shiftplusone> So I am guessing cronjobs aren't considered login sessions or anything like that, so you don't get the full environment and they are saying you should execute .profile first, it seems.
[8:18] <Ankhwatcher> shiftplusone: .profile sets the context for your terminal session. If I don't load .profile then I get a basic session without bash autocomplete or history
[8:18] <Ankhwatcher> yep
[8:20] <shiftplusone> what's in /etc/profile? does that file contain the required env vars?
[8:21] <Ankhwatcher> that looks good
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[8:21] <Ankhwatcher> I might try loading that and see what it does
[8:22] <shiftplusone> are you sure cron is the right approach though? I had a script that would run a minecraft server and relaunch it if it exited uncleanly I think.
[8:23] <Ankhwatcher> yeah cron works fine
[8:23] <Ankhwatcher> I'm going to reboot to test that change, brb
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[8:27] <shiftplusone> no luck?
[8:27] <Ankhwatcher> nope
[8:27] <Ankhwatcher> still no autocomplete or history in the window
[8:28] <shiftplusone> wait, the comments say that it may be .bash_profile
[8:29] <shiftplusone> ...which you also don't seem to have
[8:29] <shiftplusone> Well then, I haven't got a clue. Good luck though.
[8:30] <dwatkins> screen uses different startup files
[8:30] <dwatkins> iirc it looks at the .bash_profile instead of the .profile, or something like that
[8:31] <shiftplusone> dwatkins, does it do that if it's executed as a non-interactive shell?
[8:31] <dwatkins> not sure, I havn't read the bash nor screen manpages in a while, and I use tmux mostly now, sorry.
[8:32] <shiftplusone> I am not looking too closely at is, since it seems like a completely wrong solution, but I am a little curious.
[8:32] <dwatkins> you could add a line printing something to see what gets executed in different environments, I guess, not sure what kind of non-interactive shell you're looking for, though.
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[8:37] <Ankhwatcher> so that still doesn't work
[8:38] <Ankhwatcher> it starts irssi just fine but the environment is wrong
[8:38] <dwatkins> What are you starting irssi from, Ankhwatcher?
[8:38] <dwatkins> I have a .screenrc that lists apps, I start it manually, but I think you can just start screen from one of the dotfiles, as I've done it before.
[8:39] <dwatkins> That server isn't currently up, so I can't tell you which file I started screen from, though.
[8:39] <hifi> seems there is some over engineering happening here
[8:40] <dwatkins> Ankhwatcher: did you see this thread? http://superuser.com/questions/52297/use-gnu-screen-as-login-shell
[8:40] <hifi> @reboot /usr/bin/screen -dmUS foo /usr/bin/irssi
[8:40] <hifi> done
[8:40] <hifi> -S foo is optional
[8:40] <Ankhwatcher> lol hif
[8:41] <Ankhwatcher> that's what I started with
[8:42] <dwatkins> What was the problem with that, Ankhwatcher?
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[9:01] <Ankhwatcher> well that didn't work
[9:02] <Ankhwatcher> I tried what was suggested here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/117978/script-doesnt-run-via-crontab-but-works-fine-standalone
[9:02] <Ankhwatcher> but script didn't run at all
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[9:12] <hifi> that @reboot thingy works
[9:12] <hifi> that I wrote
[9:12] <hifi> because I use it and have usen it on both debian and centos
[9:12] <hifi> do you even have cron running?
[9:12] <hifi> highly unlikely on debian but worth a check
[9:12] <Ankhwatcher> hifi I think your missing the problem
[9:13] <Ankhwatcher> @reboot works fine, cron works fine
[9:13] <Ankhwatcher> even the screen and irssi work fine
[9:13] <Ankhwatcher> it's just that the screen launches without any environmental variables and is very dumb
[9:13] <Ankhwatcher> so when I open another window in it I can't autocomplete or view history
[9:14] <hifi> you do have it in your users crontab, right?
[9:14] <hifi> and not root
[9:14] <hifi> I haven't had that problem before though
[9:14] <hifi> or maybe I have
[9:14] <hifi> I haven't just cared
[9:14] <hifi> so yes, I am missing the point, can't be of more help, sorry
[9:14] <Ankhwatcher> no worries
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[12:04] <Ankhwatcher> Woohoo
[12:04] <Ankhwatcher> I did it
[12:04] <Ankhwatcher> I imported .bashrc and .profile from my server and told the script to run . ~/.profile before starting screen
[12:05] <Ankhwatcher> then I set SHELL to /bin/bash in crontab
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[12:57] <dwatkins> ~/.profile is not read by bash(1), if ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bash_login
[12:57] <dwatkins> exist
[12:57] <dwatkins> that confused me for a while
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[13:33] <sara_iran_32> Hi
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[13:48] <kenny> Anyone know how to tell if a kernel patch is included, or backported, to the raspbian kernel? (Patch https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=5d1f40202bad12d4c70a2d40a420b30d23a72b1a )
[13:51] <shiftplusone> checking
[13:52] <shiftplusone> yes
[13:52] <shiftplusone> line 804 https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/blob/rpi-3.6.y/fs/btrfs/ordered-data.c
[13:53] <shiftplusone> or not... hang on
[13:53] <shiftplusone> yeah, I don't see all of it there.
[13:55] <kenny> shiftplusone: thank you
[13:55] <shiftplusone> to sum up, I don't know. You're welcome though.
[13:56] <shiftplusone> correction, it's definitely not there
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[13:59] <kenny> shiftplusone: :) . The #btrfs guys say it's was added for 3.7, so now I have to figure out if it'll screw up my nzbgets.
[14:01] <shiftplusone> Hm, so then maybe installing a newer kernel might be the way to go.
[14:01] <shiftplusone> I don't remember which one is stable enough though.
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[14:06] <kenny> shiftplusone: any idea when raspbian plans to upgrade the kernel from 3.6? I could find or build one, but if it's planned for soon I may just wait.
[14:07] <shiftplusone> kenny, I think plugwash is the guy to ask, but he doesn't seem to be around right now.
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[14:41] <MaynardWaters> hello, I was following this: michael.gorven.za.net/raspberrypi/xbmc
[14:41] <MaynardWaters> I get to apt-get install xbmc and it says "not found"
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[14:41] <MaynardWaters> i had confirmation that the key was added, but im not sure about what the first line is doing
[14:42] <MaynardWaters> any suggestions welcome
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[14:45] <shiftplusone> MaynardWaters, first line adds the repository containing the xbmc build
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[14:46] <shiftplusone> did you add that to your sources list?
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[14:48] <MaynardWaters> shiftplusone: I added it to the file it said add it to, but I was confused because that file was empty, so i suspect it wasnt the right place
[14:49] <MaynardWaters> I should have vim /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mene.list
[14:49] <MaynardWaters> then added the line deb http://....
[14:49] <MaynardWaters> right?
[14:49] <shiftplusone> looks ok to me
[14:50] <shiftplusone> did you run apt-get update ?
[14:50] <MaynardWaters> it is the only thing in that file. shouldnt that is suspecious?
[14:50] <MaynardWaters> I did do the update
[14:51] <shiftplusone> apt should scan all the files in that directory, the author of the article just decided to keep it separate for easy management.
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[14:52] <MaynardWaters> ok
[14:52] <MaynardWaters> if i used aptitude could that be different that apt-get?
[14:53] <shiftplusone> nope
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[15:14] <MaynardWaters> still no dice after trying it again
[15:14] <MaynardWaters> any suggestions are welcome
[15:18] <shiftplusone> just in case, try putting it straight in /etc/apt/sources.list instead
[15:20] <Marvin-RPi> does anyone know how to prevent raspbian from entering blank-screen mode? I've already altered /etc/rc.local adding: xset s off, xset -dpms, xset s noblank
[15:20] <Marvin-RPi> But still the screen goes blank after 5 minutes
[15:22] <MaynardWaters> shiftplusone: can you briefly explain to me the differences in the sources.list and sources.list.d
[15:24] <shiftplusone> MaynardWaters, some linux programs which have config files that may get lengthy, will add support for scanning all the files in a directory and treat it as a single config file. So... none.
[15:27] <MaynardWaters> shiftplusone: i sudo vim on source.list and it tells me access denied
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[15:27] <MaynardWaters> weird.
[15:27] <Odie_> Marvin-RPi: are you running x11 with it_
[15:27] <shiftplusone> that doesn't make sense
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[15:27] <Marvin-RPi> LXDE, I think so
[15:28] <Odie_> if you add those to rc.local you dont have windowing setup when you run them, so those take no effect
[15:28] <MaynardWaters> shiftplusone: my mistake figured it out
[15:29] <shiftplusone> MaynardWaters, what was the issue?
[15:29] <Marvin-RPi> aha, that's why
[15:30] <Marvin-RPi> and how do I alter x11?
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[15:31] <Odie_> you need them in the X11 initialization scripts. if you create ~pi/.xsession, you can run them by that, but last command needs to be your window manager
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[15:32] <Odie_> I think there is better place for it but I don't remember it now
[15:32] <Odie_> .xinitrc or something like that, but I think those were removed some time back
[15:33] <Marvin-RPi> 99x11-common_start? could that be it?
[15:33] <Odie_> no
[15:33] <Marvin-RPi> ok
[15:33] <Odie_> I think not
[15:34] <Odie_> I'm not sure where is the xscript that does the .xsession if you dont have one in your home directory
[15:35] <Odie_> Marvin-RPi: try that common start file
[15:35] <Odie_> it might be that
[15:35] <Marvin-RPi> it's in /etc/x11/Xsessions
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[15:36] <Marvin-RPi> it says OPTIONFILE=/etc/X11/Xsession.options
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[15:37] <Odie_> I'd try /etc/X11/Xsession
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[15:39] <Marvin-RPi> alright, i'll google x11 settings RPi
[15:40] <Marvin-RPi> thnx anyway
[15:40] <Odie_> I'll check it in a sec
[15:40] <Odie_> I bet on /home/pi/.xsessionrc
[15:41] <Marvin-RPi> http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=13990
[15:41] <Marvin-RPi> I think that's it. i'll give it a try
[15:42] <Odie_> xorg.conf is good place to put those
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[15:44] <Marvin-RPi> Odie_ , don't have that file
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[15:50] <Odie_> oh, yeah, know I remember why I had this problem earlier too
[15:51] <Odie_> the server autoconfigures by default
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[15:54] <sara_iran_32> Hi
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[15:56] <sney> I wonder if anyone will ever reply to sara_iran_32 before the quit
[15:56] <Marvin-RPi> Odie_ ,so how did you do it then?
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[16:19] <Marvin-RPi> Odie_ , I think i got it... I tried this: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/752/how-do-i-prevent-the-screen-from-going-blank
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[16:21] <Marvin-RPi> going to leave the RPi running without touching keyboard and mouse, see if it worked
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[16:54] <remib> Hi. The raspberry pi foundation's image of raspbian is the recommended install medium, right ?
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[17:09] <Marvin-RPi> yes
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[17:55] <remib> Marvin-RPi: Thanks!
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[17:55] <sliddjur> hello, what is the tab completion app called that is enabled in ubuntu?
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[17:59] <sliddjur> bash completion?
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[18:36] <Tuffy_> moin
[18:36] <Tuffy> wat jeht
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