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[0:01] <plugwash> Depends what you mean by "cope with them", the pi can probablly bring in 100mbps and route it to the bit bucket just fine, it's if you want to route it somewhere useful that things get trickier
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[0:02] <dion> what should I do if my mouse keeps freezing
[0:03] <dion> its displaying on a big monitor right now like 42 inches
[0:03] <dion> might that make a difference?
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[0:05] <raidensnake> are there any bandwidth caps on the mirrors?
[0:05] <atouk> 42 inches? mouse if just tired frim running back and forth. he's not frozen, just resting
[0:06] <BlinkyBill> I rebuilt my pi from scratch this morning, but still getting the same samba issues. Whenever I copy a file from my windows computer to a USB drive (connected to the pi), samba dies and have to reboot the pi to get samba working again. restarting the service doens't do it. Any troubleshooting tips?
[0:06] <dion> idk man this guy looks dead to me
[0:06] <dion> i guess just reboot each time
[0:07] <BlinkyBill> dion, was that in response to me?
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[0:09] <dion> lol no it was to atouk
[0:09] <BlinkyBill> phew :)
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[0:16] <dion> is there anything extra I should have to do to use a usb hub?
[0:16] <dion> or should I be able to just plug everything in an start using it
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[0:43] <BlinkyBill> dion, are you talking about powering it?
[0:44] <dion> no
[0:44] <dion> I am just getting a large amount of inconsistency
[0:44] <dion> now even with the regular hubs on the pi
[0:44] <dion> it doesn't recognize the mouse or keyboard half the time
[0:44] <dion> sometimes I have to plug them in again
[0:45] <dion> mostly I have to restart it
[0:45] <BlinkyBill> I used to have issues all over the place till I purchased a new power suply specifically rated for the pi. Made all the difference.
[0:45] <PhotoJim> powered hub?
[0:45] <PhotoJim> unpowered hubs are a problem on the Pi for sure.
[0:46] <dion> no unpowered
[0:47] <PhotoJim> "no, unpowered" or "not unpowered"?
[0:47] <PhotoJim> if unpowered, that's your problem
[0:47] <PhotoJim> get a powered hub
[0:47] <dion> yeah its unpowered
[0:47] <dion> ok thanks
[0:47] <PhotoJim> you can't reliably use an unpowered hub on a Pi
[0:47] <PhotoJim> np
[0:47] <PhotoJim> you can also use the powered hub to power the Pi
[0:49] <BlinkyBill> As I said above though, if you pwoer the Pi through the hub, be sure it can provide the required power. Anything designed for charging won't be able to cope. I've got power packs for africa here, which were rated for 1.5A+, and using a multimeter, none could sustain the pi.
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[1:24] <diapolis_> How do you boot straight to the command line?
[1:31] <gnarface> diapolis_: most people just uninstall the graphical login manager if they aren't gonna use it
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[1:32] <gnarface> diapolis_: if you're on raspbian and you don't know *which* graphical login manager you're using, its probably lightdm
[1:32] <diapolis_> it's got a raspberry on the background ;)
[1:33] <diapolis_> i think i'm just going to re-install the whole thing and choose the option not to boot to desktop
[1:34] <gnarface> is there a raspi-config script?
[1:35] <gnarface> if you're using the foundation's pre-installed image maybe you can just run raspbi-config or whatever its called to reset it without a full reinstall
[1:35] <gnarface> i could be wrong about that though, i haven't tried
[1:35] <diapolis_> i'm on the NOOBS install
[1:35] <foshosho> Yeah, sudo rasp-config has the option
[1:35] <foshosho> on Raspbian
[1:36] <foshosho> Yeah, sudo raspi-config has the option ** If I could type. lol
[1:36] <diapolis_> so running that will ask me to toggle the option? or i need to know the option?
[1:36] <foshosho> It'll bring up a a series of choices, and you can select "Enable Boot to Desktop"
[1:37] <diapolis_> oh fantastic
[1:37] <foshosho> ^_^
[1:37] <diapolis_> it's ghetto central over here, trying to get a keyboard, mouse, and wifi dongle to all work with 2 USB ports
[1:37] <foshosho> Awws
[1:37] <diapolis_> and every time i unplug one, the damn thing resets lol
[1:37] <foshosho> Yeah, I've been meaning buy a usb port for like, evers. >.>
[1:38] <foshosho> or hub... I not brain today.
[1:38] <diapolis_> :)
[1:38] <diapolis_> thanks for the tips
[1:38] <diapolis_> bitcoin miner here we come
[1:39] <foshosho> =D
[1:39] <foshosho> NP!~
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[1:40] <gnarface> diapolis_: an externally-powered usb hub will do wonders for your stability issues, especially when hotplugging usb devices
[1:40] <gnarface> diapolis_: by default on its own, the pi can't draw enough power to actually meet the full usb spec :-/
[1:40] <diapolis_> i have a 12 port one
[1:40] <diapolis_> is there config required to get it setup?
[1:40] <diapolis_> doesn't seem to work out of box
[1:41] <diapolis_> (it is externally powered)
[1:41] <gnarface> hmm. odd
[1:41] <gnarface> should work...
[1:41] <gnarface> one would think
[1:41] <gnarface> do you have a video cable attached?
[1:42] <diapolis_> hdmi
[1:42] <diapolis_> yes
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[1:56] <gnarface> diapolis_: i wonder if your hub is drawing all its power from the external source or not
[1:56] <diapolis_> i wonder that as well
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[2:00] <gnarface> diapolis_: i think i've heard its not uncommon for some of those hubs to be 'power assist' and be able to work without the external power unit because they get some power from the host usb bus too
[2:00] <gnarface> diapolis_: worth checking into at least
[2:01] <diapolis_> gnarface: yah, i imagine i'll have to, thanks for the tip
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[15:25] <zer0-day> error: cast to pointer from integer of different size [-Werror=int-to-pointer-cast]
[15:25] <zer0-day> any ideas compiling
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[15:43] <darkbasic> If someone is interested I released a new version of my image: http://www.linuxsystems.it/raspbian-wheezy-armhf-raspberry-pi-minimal-image/
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[16:01] <passstab> darkbasic, that looks like the old page
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[16:02] <darkbasic> passstab: old page, new image :)
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[16:28] <dpritchett> morning
[16:29] <dpritchett> is it normal that `time curl rubygems.org > /dev/null` would take six seconds on a raspbian-07-26 pi using a hardwired ethernet connection versus < 1 second for a macbook using wifi to connect to the same router?
[16:30] <PhotoJim> 1.057 seconds on my Pi.
[16:31] <dpritchett> :(
[16:31] <dpritchett> I don't even know where to start with this one.
[16:32] <dpritchett> Seems like everything network-related is incredibly slow on this pi, and I don't have anything plugged into the USB ports
[16:32] <PhotoJim> bad cable?
[16:32] <PhotoJim> bad switch?
[16:32] <dpritchett> could be!
[16:32] <PhotoJim> look at /sbin/ifconfig eth0 's output, and see if there are errors
[16:32] <PhotoJim> if you have tons of errors, something is afoot
[16:33] <dpritchett> i just tried iperf -c to check the connection between the pi and the aforementioned macbook and got 32 MBits
[16:34] <PhotoJim> plug your Macbook into the Pi's cable and see what happens
[16:34] <PhotoJim> turn off WiFi to ensure you're using wire
[16:34] <PhotoJim> if it sucks on the MacBook on wire, then you know it's your wired network's fault somewhere
[16:34] <dpritchett> good idea
[16:34] <dpritchett> there are no errors showing up on ifconfig
[16:34] <dpritchett> i might get bounced from irc switching cables
[16:34] <PhotoJim> is the Pi under heavy load?
[16:34] <dpritchett> see you on the other side :)
[16:34] <PhotoJim> k :)
[16:34] <dpritchett> no load according to htop
[16:34] <dpritchett> i'm still just provisioning it
[16:35] <PhotoJim> k
[16:35] <dpritchett> using ansible to install a little ruby service
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[16:35] <PhotoJim> well two of my theories proven wrong already then
[16:35] <dpritchett> but ruby gems keeps timing out
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[16:37] <dpritchett> back
[16:37] <dpritchett> the macbook got 0.6-1.5s times on the same operation via the same cable
[16:37] <dpritchett> did it about ten times
[16:37] <dpritchett> with wifi off
[16:37] <dpritchett> verified via ifconfig
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[16:38] <PhotoJim> so it seems to be a fault with the Pi
[16:39] <PhotoJim> maybe just make sure the cable is securely inserted
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[16:40] <PhotoJim> 1.872 and 0.897 on my other Pi when run twice in a row
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[16:41] <dpritchett`> back
[16:41] <dpritchett`> ~1 sec on the mac with the same cable, still ~6 on the pi
[16:41] <PhotoJim> weird
[16:42] <PhotoJim> way faster on both of my Pis
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[16:42] <dpritchett`> I ran an strace and it appears to freeze for ~5 seconds right around here https://gist.github.com/dpritchett/6597005
[16:42] <dpritchett`> not sure what any of that means yet
[16:43] <PhotoJim> very odd
[16:43] <PhotoJim> I'm out of suggestions except to think you may have a hardware fault of some sort
[16:44] <PhotoJim> if you look at the end of dmesg's output is there anything interesting there that indicates problems?
[16:44] <dpritchett`> thanks for the advice
[16:44] <PhotoJim> np
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[16:45] * sney wavess
[16:45] <dpritchett`> Nothing jumps out at me other than "eth0 link down; eth0 link up" https://gist.github.com/dpritchett/6597048
[16:46] <dpritchett`> hi
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[16:52] <dpritchett`> photojim, which release are you on?
[16:53] <sney> I remember hearing some of the rj45 sockets were soldered poorly at the beginning of production
[16:53] <PhotoJim> whatever the current version of Raspbian is
[16:55] <dpritchett`> Just got this pi in the mail a week or two ago. Not sure when/where it was made though.
[16:55] <dpritchett`> I'll eyeball the soldering
[16:55] <dpritchett`> hmmmm
[16:55] <dpritchett`> looks like it might be a dns issue!
[16:56] <sney> dns wouldn't cause your link to flap
[16:56] <dpritchett`> i use 8.8.8.8 (google) for dns on my macbook
[16:56] <dpritchett`> hmm
[16:56] <dpritchett`> yep
[16:56] <dpritchett`> i get almost exactly 5 extra seconds on every request that i use a hostname rather than an ip address for
[16:57] <sney> the program 'namebench' can tell you what's the fastest dns server for your location
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[16:59] <dpritchett`> Yep, switching out the defaulted NS for google fixed it
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[17:05] <dpritchett`> thanks again for the help PhotoJim , sney
[17:05] <sney> np. though I still don't know why your link goes down and then comes back up. hopefully it doesn't get worse
[17:06] <PhotoJim> np
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[17:18] <dpritchett`> i haven't noticed it ever actually going down
[17:18] <dpritchett`> i just quoted that from dmesg
[17:18] <dpritchett`> does dmesg do any live diagnostics or is it just a replay of logs?
[17:19] <dpritchett`> because i *did* unplug the ethernet cable to try out the same connection on my macbook as part of the troubleshooting process
[17:19] <dpritchett`> that would explain it
[17:19] <sney> it's just the system log. ok.
[17:19] <dpritchett`> Anyone know how the default name servers are selected for raspbian?
[17:19] <dpritchett`> I clearly pulled a dud
[17:20] <dpritchett`> Might be worth figuring out a way to save others the same headache
[17:20] <sney> it most likely came off your dhcp server
[17:21] <sney> which is, in turn, probably your home router.
[17:21] <sney> raspbian/debian don't have any particular magic for getting nameservers outside of normal networking practices
[17:22] <dpritchett`> hrm
[17:22] <dpritchett`> i'm in a small office with an airport hooked up to ATT business-grade something or other
[17:22] <dpritchett`> my macbook has been on google dns for ages though
[17:22] <dpritchett`> whoops
[17:23] <dpritchett`> I guess I've been manually setting my name servers for so long i forgot that DHCP was happy to supply them
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[18:06] <intore> good evening guys. this is my first time using raspbian. i'm using a raspberry pi with raspbian connected by ethernet cable with an external hd to download using transmission. Yesterday everything was ok, i managed the raspberry with ssh and transgui for transmission but this morning wasn't possible to connect by ssh: no route to host and the ping command sometimes ran and sometimes didn't ran. On the television (the monitor for my raspberry) c
[18:06] <intore> ontinue to appear lines like buffer i/o error on device sdb1 that's my external hd and i can't stop it. do you have any idea about? am sorry for the long message!
[18:07] <Marvin-RPi> well
[18:07] <Marvin-RPi> did you try rebooting the Pi?
[18:08] <Marvin-RPi> just a simple question
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[18:09] <Marvin-RPi> is the external drive maybe full, so it can't write? Please give us some more info on what you dit up untill this point
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[18:11] <PhotoJim> hardware failure most likely.
[18:11] <PhotoJim> bad disk. bad enclosure. bad cable. one or all of those things.
[18:12] <intore> Marvin-RPi, the drive is not full, am sure but with those many lines that continue to appear i can't do nothing. Only disconnect the power cable !!! but i don't think it's a good idea
[18:12] <Marvin-RPi> I think the RPi is going dead, since USB- and LAN-ports share the same I/O
[18:12] <intore> RPi is new
[18:12] <Marvin-RPi> Yeah, that says nothing really
[18:12] <PhotoJim> from where is the hard disk drawing power?
[18:13] <PhotoJim> the Pi probably doesn't have enough to supply it. you'd need a powered hub or an external power supply for the disk.
[18:13] <PhotoJim> I assume it's a hard disk. maybe it's flash.
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[18:14] <intore> the hd is connected to the power himself
[18:15] <intore> can i disconnect the power of raspberry?
[18:15] <Marvin-RPi> Hopefully self-powered via an external power source, otherwise you're asking too much power from the RPi. Rather connect the external HDD to the Pi via a powered USB-hub
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[18:16] <intore> what is the best way to power off? is possible to stop the lines of error messages?
[18:18] <Marvin-RPi> can you open a konsole?
[18:19] <Marvin-RPi> via SSH or physically on the machine?
[18:19] <intore> am connected to the television
[18:19] <intore> via ssh isn't possible, no route to host
[18:21] <Marvin-RPi> press CTRL+ALT=F1, you'll get a terminal screen. Log in with root and type reboot, or if you wish to shutdown, type shutdown -h now
[18:23] <Marvin-RPi> if that doesn't work, but I think it will, justcut the power of the Pi
[18:23] <Marvin-RPi> tea time. brb
[18:24] <shiftplusone> If all else fails, REISUB https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[18:25] <intore> ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't run: it finds the new usb device - low speed and it disconnect it and continue to appear the error message about sdb1
[18:27] <Marvin-RPi> shiftplusone: thnx, I didn't know that. very usefull
[18:28] <shiftplusone> np =)
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[18:29] <shiftplusone> hopefully it's not disabled by default in this kernel.
[18:29] <intore> i disconnected the power, disconnect the hd and connected the power. Raspberry runs now and ssh also
[18:30] <intore> the problem is my hd...................
[18:30] <shiftplusone> Are you connected through ethernet?
[18:30] <shiftplusone> Sounds like a power issue more than the hdd itself being the problem.
[18:31] <intore> yes
[18:31] <shiftplusone> Got a multimeter?
[18:31] <intore> i burned my bread also!!!!
[18:31] <intore> no
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[18:31] <shiftplusone> ah, nvrm then.
[18:32] <shiftplusone> And I wouldn't blame the HDD for burned bread either D=
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[18:32] <Marvin-RPi> What I suggested before.... connect your external HDD via an external powered USB-hub, problem solved.
[18:33] <intore> ok i'll try it but couldn't be a problem on hd blocks?
[18:34] <intore> i'll to check it
[18:34] <shiftplusone> why would that cause your ethernet to drop?
[18:34] <intore> i'll check it
[18:34] <Marvin-RPi> just put your HDD in a desktop machine, see if it works
[18:34] <intore> the ethernet?
[18:35] <shiftplusone> well, you said ssh doesn't work.
[18:35] <intore> it didn't work, but now, after disconnected the hd it runs
[18:35] <shiftplusone> exactly... so what's this about bad blocks?
[18:36] <Marvin-RPi> I guess it is now, the LAN now gets sufficient power now the HDD is disconnected
[18:36] <Marvin-RPi> I thing intore was on the verge of breaking the RPi before he could even start using it
[18:37] <intore> at the end raspberry is very strong
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[18:39] <intore> shiftplusone, i mean bad blocks in the hd
[18:39] <shiftplusone> Yes.... I understood. I was just saying that that would not cause ssh to stop working.
[18:39] <Marvin-RPi> exactly
[18:40] <Marvin-RPi> the lack of power to the HDD causes I/O errors...
[18:41] <intore> shiftplusone, and what could be? the power? the ping also didn't respond correctly
[18:43] <shiftplusone> intore, exactly (as Marvin has been saying)
[18:43] <intore> sometimes the answer was Destination Unreachable, sometimes was ok but with a very long time, like 7000ms!
[18:43] <shiftplusone> there you go
[18:44] <Marvin-RPi> am I talking to a brick wall here?
[18:44] <intore> Marvin-RPi, no no, ok. the problem was the power
[18:45] <intore> good, luckily the raspberry is ok
[18:46] <intore> ...but not my bread!
[18:46] <intore> thank you very much
[18:46] <Marvin-RPi> you might want to open some windows to get rid of the smoke and stench
[18:47] <Marvin-RPi> ;-)
[18:47] <intore> ahahha
[18:47] <intore> yesss
[18:47] <Marvin-RPi> good luck
[18:48] <intore> thank you
[18:48] <intore> see you soon on this channel
[18:51] <Marvin-RPi> come back any time
[18:51] <intore> thanks Marvin-RPi
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[23:40] <mist__> hi, i'm trying to use openvpn client in raspbian but i can only ping in one direction, anyone know why that would be?
[23:42] <gnarface> mist__: firewalls, improper routing, improper NAT configuration... the list goes on
[23:42] <mist__> gnarface: routing seems plausible, would you help me troubleshoot it? =)
[23:43] <mist__> i'm using a pfsense on one end (as the server) and the raspberry pi with the openvpn client on the other
[23:43] <gnarface> mist__: nope but i'll give you the tip that traceroute would be more useful than ping probably, and if you're not doing a bridged-mode vpn your clients are all in a NAT
[23:44] <gnarface> so not being able to "ping them back" from the host would be expected behavior
[23:44] <gnarface> they'd all be showing up as traffic from the vpn gateway
[23:44] <mist__> running a traceroute it jumps to default gateway which also happens to be the openvpn server
[23:45] <gnarface> which i think is also expected behavior
[23:45] <gnarface> so you're in bridged mode, not routed mode, on the openvpn server, right?
[23:45] <mist__> to be honest i'm new to openvpn, used to normal ipsec tunnels
[23:45] <mist__> i don't think i've seen that option
[23:46] <mist__> also - when i ping from the network that does not receive a response i do see echo replies being sent back through tun0
[23:47] <mist__> which is really confusing because if i start the ping from the other side it works, so reasonably it should know the way
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[23:47] <gnarface> mist__: i'm assuming you read the official howto on their site: http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html (i can't help you if you haven't read this in its entirety, and understood it well enough to at least be able to ask good questions)
[23:47] <gnarface> mist__: by default openvpn clients can NOT ping each other
[23:48] <gnarface> mist__: that's a basic security measure
[23:48] <gnarface> mist__: they can't connect to each other whatsoever in fact
[23:49] <gnarface> mist__: also, if the openvpn server machine is not also the network gateway for the network you're connecting into, you will have to create the NAT for the clients manually
[23:51] <mist__> the openvpn server is the perimeter firewall/gateway of the network
[23:52] <mist__> as i understood it from the howto i should be running in tunnel mode, i noticed in the log that the problem might be that the "push route" isn't accepted.
[23:53] <mist__> ERROR: Linux route add command failed: external program exited with error status: 7
[23:55] <gnarface> the clients will need permission to change routes
[23:55] <gnarface> on their own ethernet devices
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[23:55] <gnarface> so they need root access at least long enough for that to happen
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[23:56] <gnarface> on non-windows clients you can have it drop root afterwards, but running as a user i think will not work unless you manually precreate the routes on the clients
[23:56] <mist__> well openvpn is running as root when checking properties
[23:56] <mist__> processes*
[23:56] <gnarface> check for typos in your route
[23:57] <gnarface> there are other reasons a route might fail to add
[23:57] <mist__> push "route 10.7.0.0 255.255.0.0"
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