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[9:32] <jax> hi!
[9:33] <jax> where can i find out which kernel the current raspbian image ships with?
[9:34] <jax> and is there some kind of keyboardless/monitorless setup possibility? i just want to ssh in
[9:36] <jax> ah already found it
[9:36] <jax> but kernel image would still be interesting
[9:43] <gnarface> jax: hang around someone knows
[9:43] <gnarface> jax: "current raspbian image" unfortunately is ambiguous
[9:44] <gnarface> jax: the short version of the story is that this channel runs one, (and this one has at least two competing, unofficial installers) and #raspberrypi (which is run by the hardware vendor) distributes a pre-installed image based on this one but entirely of their own customization
[9:45] <gnarface> most of them are probably 3.2 something or 3.6 something
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[9:46] <gnarface> but this is a low traffic channel so you'll have to be patient for answers
[9:46] <gnarface> try asking again in a few hours if nobody responds...
[9:46] <gnarface> and if you got the pre-installed image from raspberrypi.org, you might want to ask in their irc channel too
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[10:11] <gordonDrogon> Linux pi1 3.6.11+ #474 PREEMPT Thu Jun 13 17:14:42 BST 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux
[10:12] <gordonDrogon> is the kernel on the current Raspbian image.
[10:12] <gordonDrogon> If you want a newer one, then you can use rpi-update
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[10:12] <gordonDrogon> but you don't have to.
[10:12] <gordonDrogon> (and I don't)
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[11:50] <jax> well i'm still here ;)
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[11:50] <jax> i'm going to buy a raspberry pi in a couple minutes, just wondered if my wifi driver is supported due to the kernel version
[11:50] <jax> thanks gordonDrogon!
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[11:57] <SirLagz> jax: what wifi device ?
[11:59] <Th0rsten> what is an easy way to debug cross compiled programs?
[11:59] <Th0rsten> can I emulate the rpi on my linux system and get eclipse to work with it?
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[12:09] <jax> SirLagz: looking for one with long range
[12:09] <SirLagz> jax: get one with an external antenna
[12:09] <jax> exactly this one
[12:10] <jax> http://www.edimax.com/en/produce_detail.php?pd_id=425&pl1_id=28&pl2_id=138
[12:10] <jax> it seems to be the RTL8192cu chip… which seems to be in the kernel
[12:10] <jax> haven't ordered one yet though, so can still change...
[12:10] <jax> just need something with semi-decent range
[12:11] <SirLagz> RTL8192CU will work fine
[12:11] <SirLagz> Range is dependent on your environment, so can't really answer that one for you
[12:12] <jax> well, going to get my raspbery pi now
[12:12] <jax> thanks!
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[12:24] <AlphaPinky> Hello. Why the repositories always have old version software? Is it possible to have updated software there?
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[14:32] <jax> yay, back with a raspberry
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[14:35] <dougiel> jax what are you gonna do with your new toy?
[14:35] * dougiel makes idle chit chat
[14:35] <jax> brewery automation
[14:35] <jax> got 3 PT100 sensors
[14:36] <jax> which i will connect to some tinkerforge PT boards
[14:36] <dougiel> nice idea....
[14:36] <jax> and then some pump switching on/off
[14:36] <jax> with 2 relays 240VAC
[14:36] <jax> currently running gas brewery, but will switch to electric heating elements at some point, then do some real PID stuff with temperature controlling
[14:36] <dougiel> 240V controlled by 5 volts...
[14:37] <jax> got a nice component to fix that issue ;)
[14:37] <jax> http://www.tinkerforge.com/en/doc/Hardware/Bricklets/Dual_Relay.html
[14:37] <jax> these tinkerforge guys really have nice stuff
[14:37] <jax> very nicely manufactured
[14:38] <dougiel> that sounds like fun... beyond my understanding but was wondering about greenhouse automation - which is also beyond my ability...
[14:38] <jax> + they also have a slightly industry oriented approach, being able to mount the devices on rails (as in https://www.tinkerforge.com/en/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/3/image/600x600/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/n/industrial_hutschiene_tilted_600.jpg )
[14:38] * dougiel http://www.tinkerforge.com/en/doc/Hardware/Bricklets/Dual_Relay.html
[14:38] <dougiel> brb
[14:39] <dougiel> looks good... but if I had to find a complaint... it would be the terminal strip... I mean 14
[14:40] <dougiel> gauge wire is too much for that terminal imho
[14:40] <jax> yeah well, best i found so far and i just started reading about raspberry since yesterday
[14:41] <dougiel> I did rasbpian for mame and another for xbmc... they are awesome little devices... cudos to the developers.
[14:41] <dougiel> you a linux man?
[14:41] <jax> yeah
[14:41] <jax> question in this case… i'm just about to put something on this new sd card...
[14:42] <jax> i guess raspbian?
[14:42] <dougiel> and back to the terminal strips... I guess if you used stranded wire would help a bit...
[14:42] <dougiel> debian for raspberry
[14:42] <dougiel> yeah
[14:42] <jax> that i can live with. what other options are there and for what?
[14:42] <dougiel> workd for mre
[14:42] <dougiel> me
[14:43] <jax> oh and something else...
[14:44] <jax> can i just plug and play without monitor/keyboard ?
[14:44] <dougiel> I tried riscos and it was fast but pretty much only usefull for browsing as far as I could tell - no wifi options
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[14:44] <jax> would like to setup via ssh.. i guess it should be up and running by itself without any prompting?
[14:44] <dougiel> yes ssh
[14:44] <jax> ok just dhcp then
[14:44] <dougiel> defaults
[14:44] <dougiel> yes
[14:44] <dougiel> pi is user raspberry is pass
[14:45] <jax> thx!
[14:46] <dougiel> np hope I helped = enjoyed the chat take care, good luck and we'll talk to you later.
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[15:24] <jax> Linux raspberrypi 3.6.11+ #538 PREEMPT Fri Aug 30 20:42:08 BST 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux
[15:24] <jax> too easy...
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[15:28] <crumb> anyone willing to share their skypekit sdk developer license?
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[16:04] <jax> there a good way to remove all the X stuff ?
[16:04] <jax> only using this as a webserver
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[16:12] <azeem> jax: which X stuff for instance? How did you manage to get that installed?
[16:13] <jax> raspbian comes with it installed
[16:13] <jax> i di a apt-get remove --dry-run --auto-remove --purge libx11-.* to remove it though
[16:13] <jax> now all is gone - 400mb or something
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[22:25] <MrAnguish84> Hi there, I have a question: I'm running omxplayer in the background, how can I send a control/key to this process, for example the quit command?
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[22:35] <gnarface> MrAnguish84: kill -TERM [pid]
[22:38] <MrAnguish84> okay thank you, and If I want send just "p" for pause?
[22:42] <gnarface> that will just send a signal. almost everything supports TERM
[22:42] <gnarface> to send keyboard commands i think it would have to be in the foreground unless they had special controls built in
[22:43] <gnarface> or at least you'd have to be able to mouse over it...
[22:43] <gnarface> or something
[22:43] <gnarface> i doubt its actually even playing if you backgrounded it
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[22:43] <gnarface> there may be signals for play/pause though... if there were a manpage maybe it would tell us :-/
[22:44] <MrAnguish84> hm okay, my idea is to control my movie with a web application (node.js) from my ipad oder something else
[22:45] <gnarface> i see, so it *won't* actually be "backgrounded" technically
[22:46] <gnarface> that might make things easier
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[22:46] <gnarface> but the problem is omxplayer is so minimal
[22:47] <gnarface> this would be an easy task with vlc that has a remote control binary for just such purposes
[22:50] <MrAnguish84> is the vlc on the raspberry as good as the omxplayer?
[22:51] <MrAnguish84> now 1080p movies are running very good
[22:53] <gnarface> MrAnguish84: no, its not, sorry, that is unfortunate but omxplayer is the only one so far anyone has bothered to port to the video chip
[22:53] <gnarface> MrAnguish84: unless you count xmbc (but i think you have to build that yourself)
[22:53] <gnarface> er, xbmc?
[22:53] <gnarface> yea
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[22:56] <crumb> are there any other compiler options for optimization other than -O3 ?
[22:56] <MrAnguish84> Yeah xbmc look nice, but I don't want to play only movies, I also want to start games on the emulationstation :)
[22:58] <gnarface> crumb: yes, sorry i can't be more specific than that though
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[23:36] <MrAnguish84> Thank you and good night (from germany)
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[23:44] <gnarface> crumb: if you can find a gcc manpage i think they should be listed.
[23:45] <crumb> thanks
[23:45] <gnarface> crumb: make sure you're looking for ARM optimization though (most the optimizations are generic, but the advice you'll find generally will assume you're using x86)
[23:46] <crumb> ok
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