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[2:16] <Chat6208> Hey
[2:16] <- *Chat6208* Hey
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[4:03] <gnarface> i really wonder if those people coming in with generic auto-generated names that just say "hey" then leave the next minute actually have questions or not
[4:04] <crumb> would offloading audio codec functions to the gpu make processing faster?
[4:04] <gnarface> if you could figure out how i can't imagine why not
[4:05] <gnarface> the gpu is far more powerful than the cpu on this chip, if you're doing something its good at
[4:06] <crumb> well, how do i determinte what it's good at
[4:06] <gnarface> well its basically an opengl es 2.0 hardware accelerator
[4:07] <gnarface> so i guess the trick is figuring out how to use opengl es 2.0 to do audio codec stuff
[4:07] <gnarface> seems like a stretch honestly
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[4:08] <crumb> :/
[4:08] <gnarface> ... but they use video cards to mine bitcoins and brute force crack encryption these days so ... its been generally demonstrated that you can misappropriate gpu functionality to a great degree of increase in performance
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[4:08] <gnarface> just don't ask me how
[4:09] <crumb> well, it's only effecient for certains types of procedures
[4:09] <gnarface> that would make sense
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[4:09] <crumb> otherwise people would be running their pc's off their gpu's entirely
[4:09] <gnarface> but when i was in college i brought up the idea of encryption cracking on video cards (hardware gl accel was very new then mind you) and i was laughed out of the room
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[4:10] <gnarface> now its the mainstay of anything that requires huge amount of dense computation power
[4:10] <gnarface> you can actually argue that many consoles that have been released were little other than a GPU
[4:10] <crumb> people in academia are the least knowledgeable about anything
[4:11] <gnarface> that's probably true
[4:12] <gnarface> here's what i know: 700mhz arm cpu is only special in that its slightly faster than my gp2x wiz (which somehow seems faster anyway)
[4:13] <gnarface> but the *video* card in the pi has specs similar to the horsepower of a series 1 xbox
[4:13] <gnarface> which is actually a lot of power for such a tiny package
[4:13] <gnarface> despite how long ago that xbox came out
[4:14] <gnarface> so i think what you're proposing sounds feasible but i think you're going to have to dig hard into the libraries for the pi's hardware and write some ground-breaking code
[4:14] <gnarface> i for one would like to see it happen but i have an idea of how much work it would be and its more than i can do
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[4:15] <gnarface> another thing i'd be curious about is exactly what audio codec functions your'e talking about - encoding? decoding? transcoding?
[4:16] <gnarface> have you looked at omxplayer? i wouldn't be surpised if it actually did offload decoding to the video card somehow
[4:16] <gnarface> it plays ac3/h264 .. really well
[4:18] <gnarface> haven't really had problems with mpeg4/mp3 either
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[4:36] <crumb> gnarface: transcoding
[4:38] <crumb> g729
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[5:40] <snowlux> jackd ...
[5:41] <snowlux> i'm actually baffled knowing i have sound and jackd wont start :P
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[5:52] <snowlux> hmm
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[6:48] <mist__> can someone explain to me how a photosensor works? And more specificly, could i somehow generate the same kind of signal from my raspi?
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[13:53] <yang> any idea why gvfs is starting at boot ?
[13:53] <yang> gvfsd and gvfs-monitor ?
[13:53] <yang> Well I am not using gnome
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[14:26] <igraltist> hi
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[14:26] <igraltist> i try to load this module
[14:26] <igraltist> modprobe -v libertas
[14:26] <igraltist> insmod /lib/modules/3.6.11+/kernel/net/rfkill/rfkill.ko
[14:26] <igraltist> ERROR: could not insert 'libertas': Exec format error
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[14:36] <igraltist> sorry for noise
[14:36] <igraltist> there was a kernel update and just have to reboot
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[15:43] <crumb> so has there been any working examples that offload work to the gpu?
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[15:44] <crumb> it would be a game changer for the pi
[15:49] <asdasd> indeed... i would also like to know...
[15:50] <asdasd> quake 3 was one of the first things tested on the alpha versions of the Pi
[15:50] <asdasd> I wonder if you can get Tremulous going with io-Quake3...
[15:51] <asdasd> I want to know all efforts involving the graphics card of the Pi
[15:53] <asdasd> seems like people are taking a siesta
[16:00] <MidnightCommando> asdasd: i don't think that such a comprehensive list exists
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[16:01] <MidnightCommando> it's the nature of hackery that you sorta just do things.
[16:01] <MidnightCommando> not necessarily document.
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[16:03] <asdasd> true true... but I don't document my projects for the world either... and that's mostly because there is no great way to do it... an open Wiki would be a great way.
[16:05] <asdasd> yep, that would be the best... google just turn up 50% ad-funded crap... a free donation-driven wiki...
[16:06] <MidnightCommando> we can but dream
[16:07] <MidnightCommando> or alternatively we can make a massive server out of RasPis and run a wiki
[16:07] <asdasd> yes! definitely would be great!
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[16:08] <asdasd> and a good project to document right away, how to set up your own personal, and shared wiki on Raspi
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[16:14] <Kymru> what would be the main reason for Rasbian to "apt-get update" so slowly? Fetched 28.3 kB in 3min 16s (144 B/s) Reading package lists... 13%
[16:14] <asdasd> wow, Dillo is scarily snappy! yet, you won't find it on any fastest web-browser test, or top list. But it doesn't run Javescript, which is probably what makes it so fast.
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[16:15] <asdasd> Midori is pretty good once you create a personal ad-block filter for blocking all third-party scripts (with added exceptions), but it's a sluggish beast compared to Dillo
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[16:22] <MidnightCommando> asdasd: wikiception
[16:22] <MidnightCommando> that said i've just had the bestworst idea ever; datacentre-in-an-ammo-box
[16:24] <Kymru> thats a good idea
[16:24] <asdasd> ! wth
[16:25] <Kymru> not sure of they still do or not, but google kept their storage hard drives in metal shipment containers to keep costs down
[16:27] <MidnightCommando> yeah
[16:27] <MidnightCommando> that's where i got the idea
[16:27] <MidnightCommando> they used commodity hardware built into small shipping containers to have readily deployable datacentres
[16:28] <MidnightCommando> get a milsurp ammo tin, a decent switch, and a buttload of raspi; the only challenge woudl be the power supply :)
[16:28] <MidnightCommando> same idea, smaller scale.
[16:29] <Kymru> power supply, you could use the computer PSU
[16:30] <Kymru> dont they output at 5v?
[16:30] <MidnightCommando> yeah, and a whole load of other things
[16:30] <MidnightCommando> actually i have a psu beside me, let me check the voltage rating
[16:31] <Kymru> you could prob run 20 - 30 Pi's from a PSU
[16:31] <MidnightCommando> yeah i just realised this AT PSU has a 5V rail that will supply 20A
[16:32] <MidnightCommando> enough for 20 Pi and then power the router off the 12V rail
[16:32] <MidnightCommando> that said, it's still not as effective a use of space as what I was thinking :\
[16:33] <Kymru> true, but its an idea, someone may have a better one in a few minutes
[16:34] <asdasd> hmm... 20A... you can actually power a Pi with 500mA, so 40 Pies ^^
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[16:34] <Kymru> doesnt the Pi draw at 750mA?
[16:35] <asdasd> yes, the model B is between 750mA and 1200mA something
[16:35] <asdasd> but I've powered with 300mA
[16:35] <Kymru> nice
[16:36] <asdasd> running completely stable, mind you
[16:36] <Kymru> i presume there were no USb devices attached
[16:37] <asdasd> actually a USB wireless keyboard+mouse combo
[16:37] <asdasd> but that only takes 35mA... wait I will check the actual number
[16:39] <asdasd> 50mA...
[16:39] <Kymru> i have never tried such a low voltage and i dont think i will, unless i lose all my power supplies
[16:39] <asdasd> yeah, and then you can power it directly with 3.3V...
[16:40] <asdasd> or was it 3.7? look up battery powered raspberry pi, something
[16:41] <asdasd> that's the voltage that the Pi actually uses internally, and some USB devices will even run on it
[16:44] <MidnightCommando> ...
[16:44] <MidnightCommando> nope
[16:44] <MidnightCommando> if the pi used 3.3 internally it'd cook itself
[16:44] <MidnightCommando> it runs at more like 1.8
[16:44] <MidnightCommando> it just uses 3.3 for the logic interfacing, because standards.
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[16:47] <asdasd> oh... well, I've pretty much just read 2 articles about powering the Raspi through a battery-pack, and they powered it using 3.3vvvvvvvvvvvv
[16:47] <Kymru> how long will the battery last?
[16:48] <asdasd> 10hours... in one arcticle I read, I think they used a smal display for it even
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[17:17] <ScottD> Hello all. What's the trick to making freeglut run on the Pi?
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[17:18] <ScottD> I'd like to build it myself as outlined on http://freeglut.sourceforge.net/docs/gles.php - except I can't install libgles2-mesa-dev. :-/
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[17:37] <crumb> anyone used openmax in their code?
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[17:40] <asdasd> anyone using a monochrome display for their Pies?
[17:41] <asdasd> I think it would be really practical for a lot of things...
[17:41] <crumb> oh, like those old tv sets
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[17:42] <crumb> i have a tiny one crt tv but i don't think it has rca video connector input
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[17:44] <asdasd> no, I mean a small crystal display, like a TI calculator
[17:45] <asdasd> it doesnt require much power at all
[17:45] <crumb> oh yeah
[17:45] <crumb> i've used one for a msp430 launchpad
[17:46] <asdasd> then you just need a rechargeable battery-pack, and you can attach it to your keyboard, and at least have an energy-efficient writing/coding device
[17:47] <asdasd> But a PIC microprocessor would be better for it...
[17:47] <crumb> not sure if want
[17:48] <asdasd> uploading/downloading .txt files to the Pi, then from the Pi through WiFi to any device
[17:48] <asdasd> I mean, plain-text device.
[17:48] <asdasd> well, the reason I want one is because I've been pretty productive programming algorithms on my TI 86
[17:49] <asdasd> so it's fun to have something small, portable, and something you don't have to worry about battery-life
[17:53] <asdasd> I mean, having to go back to my TI 86 to play with algorithms... not optimal...
[17:54] <Vostok> i too learned most of my programming with a TI 86 in high school
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[17:54] <asdasd> ^^ wow, then you have to unlearn a lot... when learning a proper functional then OO language...
[17:54] <ScottD> I'm going to go insane. Anyone do much cross-compiling with their Pi?
[17:55] <asdasd> I think it crippled me a bit, but it's still fun...
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[17:56] <Vostok> ha ha. i had a reasonably smooth transition to OO. can't say it wouldn't have been useful :)
[17:56] <asdasd> I learned programming through QBasic, but I never really got it until I learned Game
[17:56] <asdasd> Maker
[17:56] <asdasd> And learning bad habits in it as well
[17:59] <asdasd> then learning C++, from C help-pages in the Dev-C++ IDE, so it took me a while to really get into C++, and proper OO
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[19:15] <gordonDrogon> asdasd, http://unicorn.drogon.net/piduino.jpg <-- monochrome display :)
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[20:35] <crumb> hey nils_2 didn't know you hung out here
[20:36] <nils_2> sure. i am using rpi :-)
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[20:42] <crumb> nils_2: weechat on your rpi? :X
[20:42] <nils_2> yes, of course. i also create the nightly builds on rpi
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[21:39] <wiiguy> hello how can i recover a file i deletd on raspbian ?
[21:40] <NielsNL> .version
[21:40] <- *NielsNL* help
[21:40] <- *NielsNL* !help
[21:40] <- *NielsNL* .help
[21:40] <wiiguy> NielsNL can you explain what you mean ?
[21:41] <NielsNL> i wanted to know what brand of bot was used ;)
[21:41] <wiiguy> oh :p
[21:43] <NielsNL> I have an issue with using the vnc server and copy/paste to the server from the client.
[21:45] <NielsNL> i did the steps to setup all of it but it does not seem me to allow to copy text from my client to the server. Has someone have a work around?
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