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[3:36] <azizLIGHTS> does xclip work on X sessions made by vnc server (tightvncserver) ?
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[3:36] <azizLIGHTS> i tried running echo "test" | xclip -display localhost:1
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[3:37] <azizLIGHTS> the gui is from tightvncserver running its own X session on :1 with "vncserver :1 -geometry 1280x800 -name pi -nevershared -localhost" with ~/.vnc/xstartup as follows: http://pastebin.com/piJKNLpv
[3:38] <azizLIGHTS> paste option is grayed out in right click menu in leafpad
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[4:11] <shadfc> hey guys, i'm having a rough time getting a Ralink RT5370 working under wheezy. Does anyone have a working config for that? Whenever I try to bring the interface up, I get an error that the wpa_supplicant daemon failed to start
[4:14] <shadfc> oh balls, it was just a stale wpa_supplicant process left behind. I killed it and then tried again and it appears to have worked
[4:15] <shadfc> hrm, though it didn't automatically get a DHCP lease even though my interfaces file says it should. running `dhclient wlan0` did it though
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[4:22] <Datalink> azizLIGHTS, I think VNC doesn't run clipboards right, I've just finished setting up VcXsrv on my windows machine and it's got full clipboard support (also a bit faster than VNC)
[4:23] <Datalink> azizLIGHTS, keyword, "I think" I could be wrong
[4:24] <azizLIGHTS> hm, maybe youre right. ive also tried autocutsel in my vnc xstartup file, it doesnt do anything. tried from tightvnc client on windows, and android vnc clients
[4:24] <azizLIGHTS> VcXsrv is a windows program then?
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[4:25] <Datalink> yes, a fork of Xming, with GLX acceleration (not much help for a Pi) and more current bugfixes
[4:26] <azizLIGHTS> i think ill stick to passing text over ssh
[4:27] <Datalink> I'm using it to run an XDMCP session on one of my other Linux machines (I run my Pi headless, no X) it has a good launcher which'll walk you through the big stuff, only problem's activating XDMCP on most modern distros since they disable it
[4:27] <Datalink> oh, I also use it in SSH tunnel mode to run GUI apps without a WM from most of my Linux machines, including clipboard
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[4:31] <Datalink> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=21246&p=203684 - how to enable XDMCP, though like I said, you can also use Putty's X11 forwarding function to run X11 apps that way
[4:34] <Datalink> sourceforge.net/projects/vcxsrv/
[4:34] <Datalink> for the actual program
[4:35] <Datalink> just set up my Pi using those instructions... I think it actually is running faster on my Windows machine than it does with the Broadcom FB...
[4:35] <Datalink> azizLIGHTS, sorry, I shouldn't babble so much, just set it up myself, and liking it
[4:37] <azizLIGHTS> Datalink: so you opt to use xdmcp over vnc, am i understanding you right?
[4:38] <azizLIGHTS> and all the gui element on the remote pi is run locally on your own machine's X?
[4:38] <Datalink> azizLIGHTS, that, or X11 over network (setting your $DISPLAY variable to your windows machine, or the slower method of SSH)
[4:39] <azizLIGHTS> Datalink: when you say that or X11 over network, what is the other choice? sorry im new to these things
[4:40] <azizLIGHTS> im running my pi headless too, but i use the vnc server to make the X session, and login to it
[4:40] <azizLIGHTS> i was going to use x11vnc if i had a monitor
[4:40] <azizLIGHTS> it vncs to existing X sessions, like one running locally on the phyical display
[4:41] <Datalink> Linux GUIs are built on a client-server model, a holdover from when Unix was a mainframe OS, with VNC, or RDP (Windows Remote Desktop Protocol) you are rendering the X11 on the Pi itself, while my option moves the rendering to a machine with more resources to spare
[4:42] <azizLIGHTS> i see
[4:42] <Datalink> X11 XWindow (not Windows) or XServer references the rendering system, clients connect to it and tell it how to render themselves, thus it is portable across a network
[4:42] <azizLIGHTS> so what is the need for xdmcp if x can already do everything over the network
[4:43] <Datalink> XDMCP is an old (and admittedly slightly insecure) extension to X11 which allows remote login, by sending X11 data straight to the remote X11 session
[4:43] <Datalink> which VcXSrv (Visual C XServer) or Xming acts as an X11 server for
[4:44] <Datalink> VNC and RDP both send bitmaps under various compressions from the X11 running in a virtual framebuffer on the Pi itself
[4:45] <Datalink> XDMCP or X11 over network send vector instructions and bitmaps where needed (icons, other graphics) which is a lighter load
[4:46] <Datalink> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/xdmcp I used this Ubuntu wiki doc to set up my Ubuntu machine, it's got a lot more info on XDMCP
[4:47] <Datalink> though I use NX on the Pi I have at the local PEG studio, since I trust the network it's on less than I do my own home network
[4:47] <Datalink> NX is "Network X" it uses a pure virtual framebuffer, it would be another option you could use
[4:48] <azizLIGHTS> ive heard of NX before
[4:48] <azizLIGHTS> when i was googling for vnc options
[4:48] <Datalink> NX is actually a pretty good VNC/RDP provider service
[4:49] <azizLIGHTS> yes, that seems to be the opinion. though im most familiar with vnc, and its not so hard to setup
[4:49] <azizLIGHTS> even with localhost access only + ssh
[4:49] <azizLIGHTS> so why didnt you use NX Datalink ?
[4:49] <Datalink> yeah, could see that, since VcXsrv needs installation... VNC's a bit more portable...
[4:50] <Datalink> I'm using untunnelled X11 at home, since it's a trusted network for me
[4:51] <Datalink> XDMCP just provides a desktop, usually I have $DISPLAY=10.0.0.5:0 in my Putty config and allow SSH to set my $DISPLAY in my sshd config
[4:52] <Datalink> XDMCP is mainly to save me from having to remember what application X is called or how to launch Nautilus so it won't run the desktop as well as the window
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[4:54] <azizLIGHTS> hmm, ill check out these things when i have time. for now vnc will do, and clipboard contents will just have to be transferred via ssh terminal
[4:54] <azizLIGHTS> i like that i can access my pi via vnc on android
[4:55] <azizLIGHTS> thats very important to me
[4:55] <Datalink> ah, Android... heh, okay, NX is a good app there, and let's see, which Android remote desktop do I use...
[4:58] <Datalink> I may need to find a clipboard option myself...
[4:58] <azizLIGHTS> i only see qvd on the play store for nx
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[4:59] <Datalink> NX is a Linux app, it runs VNC and RDP
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[5:00] <Datalink> I'm sorry, I had the wrong app for the Pi, look for xrdp it handles windows RDP protocol and VNC
[5:01] <Datalink> ... odd, I thought I had this Pi set up for VNC...
[5:02] <Datalink> must have been the studio ones... xrdp was handling it though
[5:02] <Datalink> X11 on Android's still a pain at this point though :/
[5:05] <Datalink> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.leadapps.afreerdp is what I use for RDP and VNC though
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[6:03] <Sudsey> yo, is anyone here?
[6:03] <Sudsey> I'm wondering what the installed filesize of raspbian is
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[6:07] <Sudsey> nobody?
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[8:45] <plugwash> hi
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[10:20] <kingi> wtf
[10:20] <kingi> i dont get this :/
[10:20] <kingi> irc client stays online
[10:20] <kingi> but ssh connection and mumble connection flaps every hour or so
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[11:20] <kingi> no ideas?
[11:22] <shiftplusone> kingi, not really much to go on.
[11:23] <shiftplusone> just sounds like you have a bad connection, which could be for hell of a lot of reasons. IRC tends to cope with quick connection drops.
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[13:33] <raidensnake> hey does anyone know about sel?
[13:33] <raidensnake> sdl
[13:33] <shiftplusone> if nobody knew about it, I am pretty sure it wouldn't be as popular as it is D=
[13:35] <raidensnake> i am trying to compile sdl 1.2.15 to use gl but the configure isn't seeing the gl headers.
[13:36] <shiftplusone> on the pi?
[13:37] <raidensnake> yes. i have a gl to gles library that translates normal gl commands to gles and it's rpi specefic.
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[13:38] <shiftplusone> glshim or something else? (just out of curiosity now)
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[13:38] <raidensnake> yes glshim. i know the person behind it.
[13:39] <raidensnake> they are a member of a game forum who made an early version of the gl to gles port.
[13:39] <shiftplusone> pandora?
[13:40] <raidensnake> yeah originally.
[13:40] <raidensnake> but the gl and glu i have are glues/glshim that's rpi hardware based.
[13:40] <shiftplusone> are you actually trying to link sdl against glshim or against mesa and their using LD_PRELOAD?
[13:41] <shiftplusone> *then
[13:41] <raidensnake> i want to link glshim to sdl and build it.
[13:41] <raidensnake> it has to have a fresh build for a game.
[13:42] <raidensnake> otherwise it won't work.
[13:42] <raidensnake> but the sdl configure isn't seeing the glshim header files
[13:43] <shiftplusone> I somehow think you'll have to ask lunixbochs/aegis about this. You've got them in your includes path?
[13:43] <raidensnake> yeah.
[13:43] <shiftplusone> WHat's the exact error?
[13:44] <raidensnake> checking for opengl (glx) support... no
[13:45] <shiftplusone> do you have a confg.log?
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[13:45] <raidensnake> the configure for that is looking for the header files
[13:45] <raidensnake> yes
[13:46] <shiftplusone> pastebin? =)
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[13:47] <raidensnake> crap it's asking for x
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[13:48] <raidensnake> x11/xlib.h
[13:48] <raidensnake> is where it's failing at
[13:49] <shiftplusone> well... there ya go
[13:49] <raidensnake> but... i don't want x11 anyway
[13:49] <raidensnake> the game doesn't fun on x
[13:49] <raidensnake> run*
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[13:52] <raidensnake> i wanna bypass that
[13:52] <shiftplusone> does ./configure --help have anything about disabling X ?
[13:55] <raidensnake> no
[13:57] <raidensnake> i checked
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[14:00] <raidensnake> wait nvm it's --without-x
[14:01] <raidensnake> trying it again
[14:02] <raidensnake> i added the headers to the cppflags
[14:08] <raidensnake> ok gonna see if it works now
[14:10] <raidensnake> it takes a while to look for it
[14:14] <kingi> shiftplusone is there any chance to log connection problems in some easy way ?
[14:14] <raidensnake> now it's looking for x.h
[14:15] <shiftplusone> kingi, have you checked dmesg?
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[14:39] <raidensnake> clearing up the missing files
[14:41] <raidensnake> got it to see it
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[14:43] <raidensnake> all that just to fire up a game
[14:43] <raidensnake> what a pain in the arse
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[15:26] <NeedHelp> Hello anyone here who can help and speaks Dutch or English?
[15:26] <NeedHelp> Im trying to get xbmc to work on my raspberry pi...
[15:26] <lastfuture> ik sprek geen nederlands and unfortunately have no experience with xbmc either
[15:28] <NeedHelp> Hmm i got a problem when i try point 8. Prepare the Xbmc code for compilation... (this site http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianXBMC)
[15:28] <shiftplusone> NeedHelp, that page is ancient
[15:28] <NeedHelp> when i use this command: sudo sh tools/rbp/setup-sdk.sh i get a error about TOOLCHAIN/usr/ NOT found
[15:28] <NeedHelp> what should i use then?
[15:29] <lastfuture> hmm it would be nice if those pages had a time stamp
[15:29] <shiftplusone> I haven't found anything better than just dual-booting openelec or raspbmc.
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[15:30] <NeedHelp> so i did all the work for nothing :O
[15:30] <shiftplusone> Not for nothing, you've learned a valuable lesson =P
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[15:31] <NeedHelp> haha
[15:31] <NeedHelp> so what is best thing to do now...
[15:31] <shiftplusone> word on the street is that there's a proper xbmc package in the repos
[15:31] <NeedHelp> cuz i orded a SD-card with Raspbian on it
[15:31] <shiftplusone> I haven't looked though
[15:31] <shiftplusone> do you absolutely need xbmc and not just omxplayer?
[15:32] <NeedHelp> and i thought i could install xmbc on it
[15:32] <NeedHelp> I love XBMC
[15:32] <shiftplusone> what about this one? http://michael.gorven.za.net/raspberrypi/xbmc
[15:33] <shiftplusone> also ancient though
[15:33] <shiftplusone> though release history doesn't look bad
[15:34] <NeedHelp> but then i need to copy an img on my sd-card?
[15:35] <shiftplusone> that's now what the instructions say
[15:35] <shiftplusone> "This can be setup on an existing Raspbian installation"
[15:35] <NeedHelp> but no one can help me with why i get the error about TOOLCHAIN?
[15:38] <NeedHelp> that site michael....
[15:38] <NeedHelp> when i put in deb http://archive.mene.za.net/raspbian wheezy contrib
[15:38] <NeedHelp> it says deb: command not found
[15:38] <NeedHelp> im kinda new so i dont really know :(
[15:39] <shiftplusone> oh dear
[15:39] <shiftplusone> that's not a command to run
[15:39] <shiftplusone> it says "store the following in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mene.list"
[15:40] <NeedHelp> yeah what must i do how to store?
[15:40] <NeedHelp> im newb xD
[15:40] <NeedHelp> that's why i want a full install from web
[15:40] <shiftplusone> know how to edit files?
[15:41] <NeedHelp> Nope i dont get it work from that website
[15:41] <NeedHelp> Pff too bad the other thing doesnt work :S
[15:41] <NeedHelp> much more clear how to do it
[15:42] <lastfuture> you can edit files by using: nano /path/to/file
[15:42] <shiftplusone> (throw a sudo in front)
[15:43] <NeedHelp> so: sudo dev....
[15:43] <NeedHelp> or what?
[15:44] <shiftplusone> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mene.list
[15:46] <NeedHelp> thank
[15:46] <NeedHelp> s
[15:49] <NeedHelp> now i get new screen must i put in there the rest?
[15:49] <NeedHelp> the dev part and stuff?
[15:49] <shiftplusone> deb http://archive.mene.za.net/raspbian wheezy contrib
[15:50] <NeedHelp> i did and then?
[15:50] <shiftplusone> ctrl-x
[15:50] <NeedHelp> because i cant get out of the list menu...
[15:51] <NeedHelp> Yhanks
[15:51] <NeedHelp> doing update now
[15:52] <shiftplusone> don't run the addgroup command
[15:52] <NeedHelp> Ok
[15:52] <NeedHelp> what about the audio video and stuff
[15:52] <NeedHelp> just install xbmc?
[15:52] <shiftplusone> yup
[15:52] <NeedHelp> and i want to setup xbmc as root
[15:53] <NeedHelp> must a add the rules...
[15:53] <NeedHelp> ?
[15:54] <shiftplusone> not sure. I know the 'input' rule is already there
[15:54] <NeedHelp> okay so dont have to do sudo nano and add the folder?
[15:55] <shiftplusone> try without it
[15:55] <shiftplusone> then if you run into permission problems, come back to it
[15:55] <NeedHelp> okay
[15:55] <NeedHelp> and what about that enabled=1
[15:55] <NeedHelp> what command do i use?
[15:55] <NeedHelp> If you want XBMC to automatically start when the system boots, edit /etc/default/xbmc and change ENABLED to 1:
[15:55] <NeedHelp> this ons
[15:55] <shiftplusone> it kinds of says everything you need to know
[15:56] <shiftplusone> and you already know how to edit files
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[15:58] <NeedHelp> Okay thanks
[15:58] <NeedHelp> rebooting now
[15:59] <NeedHelp> i did sudo nano /etc/default/xbmc and then enabled=1 ctrl+x save and reboot, that's good right?
[15:59] <shiftplusone> idn, I never used it.
[16:00] <NeedHelp> doesnt work :S
[16:00] <NeedHelp> how can i start XBMC with command?
[16:01] <shiftplusone> the page says how
[16:01] <NeedHelp> doesnt work
[16:01] <NeedHelp> i did: sudo service xbmc
[16:02] <NeedHelp> xbmc: unrecognized service
[16:02] <shiftplusone> what's the output of ls /etc/init.d ?
[16:03] <NeedHelp> i dont know...
[16:03] <NeedHelp> where to find it?
[16:03] <NeedHelp> and what is ls?
[16:04] <shiftplusone> NeedHelp, I think you should get a little bit familiar with linux if you're doing to do this sort of thing. If you just want something that works out of the box, use 'NOOBS' to install OpenELEC and Raspbian)
[16:06] <NeedHelp> I thought i bought it all togheter...
[16:06] <NeedHelp> so plug and play
[16:06] <NeedHelp> with xbmc on it...
[16:07] <shiftplusone> do you have a link to what you bought?
[16:07] <NeedHelp> and that tutorial made me stuck @ TOOLCHAIN and that was my question
[16:07] <NeedHelp> bought in shop
[16:07] <NeedHelp> so i go back there monday
[16:07] <shiftplusone> when you boot do you see a screen saying "press shift to go into recovery" or something?
[16:08] <NeedHelp> Then i need to reboot and check
[16:09] <shiftplusone> The issue with the original question is that it's based on an old unmaintained tutorial and the guy who wrote it isn't here. So it's very unlikely anybody else is going to attempt to provide support for it.
[16:09] <NeedHelp> Nope i dont got a button for recovery
[16:09] <NeedHelp> it goes straight to login
[16:09] <NeedHelp> okay
[16:10] <NeedHelp> Who wrote the tutorial you know that?
[16:10] <NeedHelp> the other website of michael isnt working @ all...
[16:11] <shiftplusone> "Obsy"
[16:11] <shiftplusone> Well the other site IS working and you do currently have XBMC installed
[16:11] <shiftplusone> it's just that you haven't figured out how to launch it
[16:12] <NeedHelp> But it says launch: sudo service xbmc
[16:12] <shiftplusone> what happens when you run 'xbmc-standalone' ?
[16:12] <NeedHelp> that's doesnt work so i guess xbmc isnt installed correct
[16:12] <shiftplusone> it is... it's just that the service that tutorial is referring to either isn't there or is called something else
[16:13] <NeedHelp> run you mean: sudo service xbmc-standalone?
[16:13] <NeedHelp> or what must i type
[16:13] <shiftplusone> no, I don't
[16:13] <shiftplusone> I mean exactly what I said - run 'xbmc-standalone'
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[16:14] <NeedHelp> run: command not found
[16:14] <NeedHelp> so cant type run
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[16:14] <shiftplusone> argh... don't run 'run' >_<
[16:14] <shiftplusone> XD
[16:14] <NeedHelp> what must i type xD
[16:14] <NeedHelp> im a newb
[16:14] <shiftplusone> xbmc-standalone
[16:15] <NeedHelp> just in root?
[16:15] <NeedHelp> if i type that it says command not found...
[16:16] <shiftplusone> last thing
[16:16] <shiftplusone> ls /etc/init.d
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[16:18] <NeedHelp> okay i just type what you say
[16:18] <shiftplusone> ls /etc/init.d
[16:18] <shiftplusone> do you see anything with 'xbmc' in the output?
[16:18] <NeedHelp> no
[16:19] <shiftplusone> type xbmc and press tab a few times
[16:19] <shiftplusone> without a space after xbmc
[16:19] <shiftplusone> anything happen?
[16:20] <NeedHelp> nope
[16:20] <shiftplusone> time to give up then
[16:20] <NeedHelp> Hmm anyway thanks
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[16:21] <NeedHelp> i go monday to shop
[16:21] <NeedHelp> hopefully they can help
[16:21] <NeedHelp> Ciao
[16:21] <shiftplusone> how big is the card you got?
[16:21] <NeedHelp> 32 gb
[16:21] <NeedHelp> class 10
[16:21] <shiftplusone> ask them to put 'NOOBS' on it.
[16:21] <NeedHelp> Okay
[16:21] <NeedHelp> Thanks anyway
[16:21] <NeedHelp> Bye
[16:21] <shiftplusone> good luck
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[20:04] <raidensnake> well i finally got SDL to see glshim but now i can't get my program to initialise SDL
[20:05] <raidensnake> it says SDL can't find OpenGL
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[20:06] <raidensnake> any ideas od how to solv it?
[20:06] <raidensnake> on how to solve it*
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[20:16] <raidensnake> it's bugging me
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[22:37] <Tirili> Hi
[22:39] <Tirili> I have a well working raspbian sd-card with a size of 32gb (only 6 gb) is used. Now I want to move this system to an 8-gb-sd-card. What is the best way to do it?
[22:39] <Tirili> * only 6 gb of 32 gb is used on that well working sd-card
[22:39] <marko__> linux - dd
[22:40] <marko__> windows - http://lifehacker.com/how-to-clone-your-raspberry-pi-sd-card-for-super-easy-r-1261113524
[22:40] <Tirili> I am non linux
[22:40] <Tirili> Thank you! Let me see
[22:40] <Tirili> *on linux
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[22:54] <ppq> you sould probably shrink the filesystem first
[22:59] <Tirili> Yes. And I must learn how to do it.
[23:00] <Tirili> But I am currently thinking, that NOOBS might be a good start as well.
[23:00] <Tirili> Than I could just move config files to my new noobs-raspbian-8gb-sd-card.
[23:00] <Tirili> *Then
[23:00] <Tirili> Let me try
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[23:39] <ppq> Tirili: you can do that with gparted
[23:40] <ppq> boot some linux live-cd on your computer, plug in the pi's sd-card and start gparted
[23:40] <ppq> it's intuitive to use, but you should have backups, just in case
[23:41] <ppq> (those you should have anyway)
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[23:54] <Tirili> Is a fat-partition necessary for NOOBS or can it be ext3 as well?
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[23:55] <Tirili> or ext4
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