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[0:03] <karas_> would you say cross compiling is more easy?
[0:03] <shiftplusone> no, just quicker
[0:03] <karas_> ok
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[0:24] <piricel> what's new in raspbian?
[0:26] <shiftplusone> in what sense? O_o
[0:27] <piricel> updates/features
[0:27] * shiftplusone shrugs
[0:28] <karas_> shiftplusone: I get an error which says that /lib/modules/<kernel version>/build is not found when I try to compile them, I installed the kernel source package before of course
[0:29] <karas_> do you know what Im do wrong?
[0:29] <shiftplusone> karas_, nuh, it's one of those things where I'd have to poke around myself to figure out what's going on.
[0:30] <shiftplusone> but I am guessing you still haven't installed the kernel itself as the post-install instructions of the netinstall say?
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[0:30] <karas_> no I did
[0:30] <shiftplusone> ah, good
[0:30] <karas_> Im now at 3.10-3-rpi
[0:31] <karas_> and I have at least some files in /lib/modules/3.10-3-rpi/ but really no folder "build"
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[0:31] <shiftplusone> did you install the headers package or the source?
[0:32] <karas_> dont know, I did "apt-get linux-source"
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[0:34] <piricel> shiftplusone how is that browser?
[0:34] <shiftplusone> karas_, linux-headers-rpi-rpfv
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[0:34] <shiftplusone> piricel, 'web'?
[0:34] <piricel> yes
[0:35] <piricel> is better than midori or netsurf?
[0:35] <shiftplusone> no idea, it's not included in the default image yet (though the repo to get it is, if you want to give it a go)
[0:35] <shiftplusone> I mostly run headless, so it doesn't really concern me.
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[0:36] <shiftplusone> karas_, I have installed the package and I can clearly see /lib/modules/3.10-3-rpi/build
[0:37] <karas_> yes I installed linux-headers-rpi-rpfv and now I have it too, thank you
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[0:38] <shiftplusone> np
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[0:38] <karas_> I could compile my driver now, many many thanks :)
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[0:42] * plugwash thought the repo for "web" had to be added extra even in the foundation images
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[0:43] <plugwash> and note that said repo contains a LOT of updated versions of other packages which may cause some breakage
[0:43] <shiftplusone> plugwash, it's in sources.list.d
[0:44] <shiftplusone> root@raspberrypi:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/collabora.list
[0:44] <shiftplusone> deb http://raspberrypi.collabora.com wheezy rpi
[0:44] <shiftplusone> (latest image)
[0:44] <shiftplusone> unless that's not the repo
[0:44] <plugwash> (well it's the repo but not the component)
[0:45] <shiftplusone> ah, correction noted then
[0:45] <plugwash> "deb http://raspberrypi.collabora.com wheezy web" is what you need to get it
[0:46] <shiftplusone> makes sense
[0:46] <plugwash> but like I said be aware that they updated quite a lot of stuff which may or may not break things (in particular some stuff seems to have issues with the new webkit)
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[0:46] * shiftplusone wonders how it will work when it's ready for mainstream
[0:47] <shiftplusone> will you be hosting it or with those packages be removed from your repo or what?
[0:47] <shiftplusone> *will
[0:48] <plugwash> who knows
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[0:49] <plugwash> the root problem is that the rapid development of Pi related stuff is kinda at odds with the debian idea of a stable release........
[0:50] <shiftplusone> hmm
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[0:51] <shiftplusone> wonder what the foundation's plans are =/
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[0:54] <plugwash> I suspect in the long term wheezy will be left behind (it has to be sooner or later anyway) and things will solidify on a jessie base
[0:55] <gnarface> i think that seems inevitable and even sane
[0:55] <gnarface> jessie is still pretty young in debian terms though
[0:55] <gnarface> by the end of this year however it probably will be less volatile
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[1:01] <shadfc> hey guys, i've got my wireless associating to my network on boot, but for some reason it isn't getting an ip via DHCP. If I run dhclient manually, it works fine. Any ideas on how to fix this?
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[1:02] <sney> shadfc: do you have 'iface wlan0 inet dhcp' in your interfaces file?
[1:02] <shiftplusone> You'd have to say what you did to get to where you are.
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[1:03] <shadfc> sney: oh, i've got: iface wlan0 inet manual and then iface default inet dhcp
[1:04] <sney> that sounds... nonstandard
[1:04] <shadfc> the wlan0 uses the wpa-conf, and i thought i read somewhere that the "manual" was required so that wpa_supplicant to do somethign
[1:04] <shadfc> not sure
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[1:05] <shadfc> been a long time since i messed with wireless stuff from CLI
[1:05] <sney> you can put the wpa settings in interfaces as well
[1:05] <sney> https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse this should be your manual
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[1:23] <shadfc> sney: ok, putting the wpa stuff in the interfaces file worked (and changing the wlan0 to dhcp). thanks
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[4:57] <kingi> oon legendary eagle master
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[5:40] <frank1e> hey guys
[5:40] <frank1e> Someone guided me how to get Irssi running on my Raspbian (RPi RevB). I forgot how to launch it via terminal. I remember something that had to do with "monitor" but forgot the rest
[5:40] <SirLagz> screen
[5:40] <SirLagz> you mean?
[5:40] <frank1e> I have Raspbian wheezy btw
[5:40] <frank1e> ah yes could be
[5:40] <SirLagz> run screen first to setup a session that you can detach from
[5:40] <SirLagz> then run irssi
[5:41] <SirLagz> to open irssi
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[5:41] <frank1e> I just wanted to get it running again :) totally forgot everything. terminal for IRC is a bit complicated for me but I didnt find any irc client with a gui
[5:42] <SirLagz> xchat is an irc client with a gui
[5:42] <frank1e> oh okay cool
[5:42] <frank1e> that will be "sudo apt-get xchat" right?
[5:42] <SirLagz> sudo apt-get install xchat
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[5:43] <frank1e> okay sweet, thanks! My wheezy is just updating, so im going to test it in a few
[5:43] <SirLagz> no problems
[5:44] <frank1e> 33kb/s +_+
[5:44] <frank1e> on my 100mbit :/ dang
[5:45] <SirLagz> i wish i had 100mbit lol
[5:45] <SirLagz> i have 10...on a good day
[5:45] <frank1e> oh okay
[5:45] <SirLagz> normally around 7-8
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[5:46] <frank1e> If I want to use my raspbian wheezy only for some private web browsing (reddit, news and stuff) and some financial transactions - im safer than doing it on my os x right? I mean, the chance of having my RPi infected is lower than on OS X or Win, right?
[5:46] <SirLagz> depends on how secure your windows setup is
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[5:47] <frank1e> ah, my windows is just for mining and gaming. mac just for working with adobe applications.
[5:47] <frank1e> for everything else Id like to use my RPi
[5:47] <SirLagz> it'll all probably be about as secure as each other then. The more applications you have, the less secure a system is
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[5:48] <frank1e> sure
[5:48] <frank1e> but I mean being "hijacked" with some malicious ad on some website.
[5:48] <SirLagz> the Pi might be a bit more secure, just because it's on an ARM CPU, so anything designed for x86 won't run
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[5:48] <frank1e> dang there they go
[5:48] <SirLagz> but then again, there are exploits out there that only need a browser to work
[5:49] <frank1e> yup
[5:49] <frank1e> im wondering
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[5:49] <frank1e> which browser is the best on wheezy.
[5:49] <SirLagz> lynx. j/k lol
[5:49] <frank1e> midori has problems displaying everything without lagging out the system (on very basic websites without fancy stuff)
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[5:49] <frank1e> chrome is not the best choice I think either.
[5:50] <SirLagz> i don't use a browser on my Pi, so can't really help here.
[5:50] <frank1e> *chromium. (works the best but I cant trust it somehow)
[5:50] <frank1e> mh okay
[5:50] <frank1e> :)
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[5:52] <frank2e> yeah
[5:52] <frank1e> it worked
[5:52] <frank1e> \o/
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[5:52] <frank1e> thanks a lot again SirLagz :)
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[5:53] <SirLagz> no problems frank1e
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[5:56] <frank2e> haha happiest man on earth right now. finally.
[5:56] <frank2e> Now lets try if this works with autodisconnect and nickserv auth :)
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[6:49] <justlearner> hiii.... can anyone tell me how can i upgrade my raspbian version from an img file by using an older version raspbian to acces the img
[6:50] <justlearner> i am using a raspbian system..... i need to upgrade to new rasbian version
[6:50] <justlearner> !:i have only 1 sd card which is recognized.....
[6:50] <hifi> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[6:50] <hifi> or apt-get dist-upgrade
[6:51] <justlearner> no internet access to my pi
[6:51] <justlearner> i need to do it offline
[6:51] <hifi> can't really do it offline
[6:51] <justlearner> similar to windows 7 to windows8 upgrade i think while logged in win 7
[6:52] <hifi> you can, however, copy your data from the current installation outside and then write the image on the card and copy your data back in
[6:52] <justlearner> just qondering if its possible tht way
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[6:52] <hifi> but there's no direct "upgrade from image" method
[6:53] <justlearner> to write the image on the same card ??? i am already ruuning older version os
[6:53] <justlearner> i need to do wverything using 1 system
[6:53] <justlearner> which is running on raspi
[6:53] <justlearner> and 1 sd card
[6:54] <justlearner> so i want to try it like win 7 upgrade ....similar to tht concept
[6:54] <hifi> you can't
[6:54] <justlearner> constarints ..no internet...but have new img and pendrive access
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[6:55] <hifi> the raspbian image is not an installer and does not contain any files to upgrade from
[6:55] <hifi> it's a pre-installed system
[6:55] <justlearner> hmmm
[6:55] <hifi> you can't upgrade from win7 to win8 using two hard drives where you have win8 installed on the other one
[6:55] <hifi> think it like that
[6:56] <justlearner> i have the new img file
[6:56] <hifi> it's a hard drive image, it's not an installer image
[6:56] <justlearner> hmm
[6:58] <justlearner> i guess ur right...thank you....it makes sense.....i think too its not possible
[6:58] <frank2e> Another question from the bloody newbie: My raspbian os has been setup a few months ago. I have no idea if the root(?) password is the preset one or not. How can I check it?
[6:59] <gordonDrogon> if you can sudo -i and get a root shell, its immaterial. just change it.
[6:59] <frank2e> wait what does sudo -i do
[6:59] <shiftplusone> 'man sudo'
[6:59] <gordonDrogon> ^
[7:00] <frank2e> Im new sry guys
[7:00] <shiftplusone> (spoiler: it opens a root login shell)
[7:00] <gordonDrogon> but now you know the 'man' command :)
[7:00] <frank2e> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ sudo -i
[7:00] <frank2e> root@raspberrypi:~#
[7:00] <frank2e> guess no pass is set
[7:00] <gordonDrogon> incorrect guess.
[7:00] <gordonDrogon> however now you can check and change.
[7:00] <frank2e> ahh tried man sudo
[7:00] <frank2e> dang thats much stuff coming up
[7:01] <gordonDrogon> fgrep root /etc/shadow
[7:01] <shiftplusone> the guess is correct, but not by correct deduction.
[7:01] <gordonDrogon> if it's a long line, then a password is set - change it. if it's a short line then it's likely not set.
[7:01] <frank2e> anyone of you got truecrypt running on raspbian?
[7:02] <frank2e> (found a precompiled version somewhere but no idea how to trust that source)
[7:02] <shiftplusone> frank2e, I used to hate manpages. They're long, and very hard to understand. Often you'll end up more confused after reading a manpage than you were before. But, that's an unfortunate side-effect of learning. Stick with it and you will see a common pattern to all manpages and will be able to find exactly the information you need while ignoring the rest.
[7:03] <justlearner> also....i have a microsd with sd adaptor...which i am able to access with card reader.....but if i try to use the same to plug in for booting on my pi....it doesnt read the microsd with adaptor.....i can access it though on a raspbian running on a different sd card
[7:03] <frank2e> shiftplusone okay, yes. much stuff to learn. hard times coming heh.
[7:03] <frank2e> gordonDrogon, fgrep root /etc/shadow ended with "Permission denied", so pass is set
[7:03] <frank2e> :)
[7:03] <shiftplusone> frank2e, stick with it, it pays off.
[7:04] <shiftplusone> frank2e, that's not what that means. Stop guessing based on what it SEEMS like the output is telling you. >_<
[7:04] <frank2e> okay okay okay
[7:04] <frank2e> :|
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[7:05] <shiftplusone> frank2e, what it's saying is that the user you ran fgrep as does not have permissions to read that file. Which has nothing to do with wether or not the root password is set.
[7:05] <frank2e> oh okay
[7:07] <shiftplusone> frank2e, also, sudo asks for the USER password, NOT the root password. It also so happens that the Raspbian image you are using is set up so that the user pi is never asked for a password when running sudo. So whether you're asked for a password when running sudo -i also doesn't tell you anything about the root password.
[7:09] <frank2e> Okay
[7:09] <frank2e> im not a smart man
[7:09] <frank2e> ;D
[7:09] <gordonDrogon> start, and don't stop reading.
[7:09] <shiftplusone> it's ok, neither am I.
[7:10] <gordonDrogon> and you're never too old to learn something new.
[7:10] <frank2e> going to play around a bit more. months ago I knew some things, doing some stuff again and again until I remember everything forever :)
[7:10] <gordonDrogon> (says the > 50 year old here!)
[7:10] <shiftplusone> >50? Lost track?
[7:11] <gordonDrogon> probably.
[7:11] <frank2e> I remember when my first task was to get a bitcoin wallet client running on raspbian. pain in the ass. no success. abandoned that task because not possible anyway with the full blockchain
[7:11] <shiftplusone> heh
[7:12] <frank2e> (running raspbian on my 16gb sd card.. gotta upgrade to a 64gb soon to try again sometime. :))
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[7:20] <frank2e> soo, my evil clone just left the building. everythings safe for now!
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[11:21] <kingi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SypF2eM_q8Q
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[14:11] -cameron.freenode.net- *** Looking up your hostname...
[14:11] -cameron.freenode.net- *** Checking Ident
[14:11] -cameron.freenode.net- *** No Ident response
[14:11] -cameron.freenode.net- *** Found your hostname
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[14:11] * Topic is 'Raspbian -- Debian hard float for the Raspberry Pi: http://www.raspbian.org/ Logs at: http://plugwash.raspbian.org/logs/ looking for mirrors in asia, africa and south america'
[14:11] * Set by plugwash!~plugwash@2001:5c0:1400:a::1a3 on Mon Dec 10 22:15:29 UTC 2012
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[14:14] <stevieee> server down?
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[14:15] <stevieee> Failed to fetch http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/
[14:15] <stevieee> hello?
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[14:20] <stevieee> m
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[14:24] <bacobart> hi. you probably already know this and i'm probably the 100th person to tell you the raspbian website and mirrordirector are down
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[14:26] <kingi> second i think
[14:26] <bacobart> oh not too bad then;p
[14:26] <bacobart> any indicitation on when they will be back up?
[14:27] <bacobart> i was just about to start to update my rpi:P
[14:28] <kingi> u should ask the website
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[14:30] <bacobart> it refuses to connect with me:(
[14:34] <ppq> ask louder ;p
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[14:36] <bacobart> seems to have worked
[14:36] <bacobart> thanks ;)
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[14:59] <M4dH4TT3r> heres an intresting note about trying to ssh to it in terminal the response is so quick I dont think its even trying to connect
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[15:00] <M4dH4TT3r> Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer
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[15:12] <bytecounter> Hello, I want to use a raspberry with raspbian and iceweasel for a webterminal. But pageloading is very, very slow. Is there a way to optimize?
[15:12] <ppq> bytecounter: try chromium or midori
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[15:19] <bytecounter> I tried chromium, but it is not really faster..i
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[15:34] <bytecounter> in "top" all processes are very small; I dont' use a windowmanager, I am starting iceweasel directly..but why it is so slow? While loading a webpage the cpu is used for over 90%
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[15:42] <Pulsar> anyone know if it is possible to get a ps3 3-in-1 remote working fully on raspbian?
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[16:00] <rozie> bytecounter: rpi is slow and web rendering is not accelerated
[16:01] <rozie> what speed would you expect from PIII 500 MHz?
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[16:05] <bytecounter> I want to render webpages faster than 30seconds...
[16:06] <hifi> get a real PC
[16:06] <hifi> or render web pages made in 2000
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[16:13] <kingi> :D
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[16:16] <bytecounter> It is not a problem of webpages; what changes? Some JS? CSS? It is a problem of overloaded browsers..
[16:17] <ppq> you could install noscript and see if it helps
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[19:31] <gregc2> Hey i compiled some source for a binary on raspbian and it tells me I cannot execute the binary file after chmodding it. What am i doing wrong
[19:33] <sney> what is the output of 'file /path/to/your/binary'
[19:33] <gregc2> -bash: /usr/local/bin/wy60: cannot execute binary file
[19:34] <gregc2> compiled correctly make and maked install without errors
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[19:36] <shiftplusone> gregc2, re-read what sney asked.
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[19:40] <gregc2> ELF 65-bit LSB executable, x86-64 vesion 1 sysv
[19:40] <gregc2> ugh
[19:41] <shiftplusone> so you see the problem =P
[19:41] <shiftplusone> No idea how you managed to compile an x86 binary without knowing it though. =S
[19:42] <gregc2> now how to convert it
[19:43] <shiftplusone> can't convert. Have to re-compile properly
[19:43] <gregc2> im confused on how it complied cleanly without issue
[19:43] <gregc2> on the arm
[19:47] <sney> maybe that binary was included with the source package somehow- did you run 'make clean' before building
[19:54] <gregc2> that was it
[19:54] <gregc2> thank you
[19:56] <sney> np
[19:56] <sney> always be suspicious if it seems like something compiles quickly on the pi
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[20:13] <sq> i should have only 2 partitions on the sd card when i write raspbian's image to sd card, right? fat & linux
[20:14] <sney> yeah
[20:16] <sq> also, when you run testdisk on the card, are there any unusual things? deep search reveals another unrecoverable partition, and also says that the card is too small...
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[20:16] <gregc2> sney, yeah i noticed that ;-)
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[20:50] <gnarface> sq: windows tools don't support the linux partition types or filesystems, so they'll see the small fat32 boot partition and see the rest as untouchable garbage
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[21:11] <sq> gnarface: well i'm running testdisk from linux
[21:11] <sq> ..i wanted to overwrite 1mb using dd
[21:11] <sq> ..forgot to put count=1
[21:11] <shiftplusone> whoops
[21:12] <gnarface> sq: never heard of it. i recommend you use gparted, and not blank it out with dd first
[21:13] <sq> well that was the last resort. i was fiddling with fsck and testdisk and didn't come up with anything
[21:14] <gnarface> well if you're talking about the image from raspberrypi.org i think it resizes itself to fit the sd card on first boot
[21:14] <gnarface> so if you're seeing unused space before that, its probably actually unused space
[21:15] <shiftplusone> not automatically though, you need to select the option to do so in raspi-config
[21:15] <gnarface> ah, didn't know that
[21:15] <shiftplusone> Not 100% certain though (only about 80%)
[21:16] <sq> oh wow, partition table is completely different now
[21:16] <sq> how did pi manage to screw everything so badly
[21:17] * shiftplusone wonders wth sq is doing.
[21:17] <shiftplusone> ah, you're the anti-backup guy from #raspberrypi, right? =P
[21:17] <sq> looking at fdisk/testdisk output
[21:18] <sq> yeah :<
[21:18] * shiftplusone thinks it's time to give up
[21:19] <sq> well i dd'd the card and i'm looking at the proper file systems
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[21:20] <sq> just what pi does when it destroys sd cards, i wonder
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[21:22] <shiftplusone> I think you're putting the somewhere other where it belongs.
[21:23] <shiftplusone> *the blame
[21:23] <shiftplusone> It's not like the pi has a hidden "shred_sdcard" feature.
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[21:28] <frank2e> hey
[21:29] <frank2e> can anyone copy/paste me why I had a disconnect seconds ago?
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[22:01] <Xiguanda> hola
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[22:19] <Jones__> hej hej!
[22:19] <shiftplusone> You again?
[22:20] <shiftplusone> (hi)
[22:20] <Jones__> yeah =/
[22:20] <frank2e> sq dang whats max sendq?!
[22:20] <Jones__> actually, I installed iw because I want to create an AP, and iw list gives me an error
[22:20] <Jones__> I get 'nl80211 not found'
[22:21] <Jones__> Apparently, a lot of people have this, but I don't see any solution. Some say it is maybe because of the firmware
[22:21] <Jones__> But honestly, I don't really know
[22:21] <Jones__> any idea of where I could look?
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[22:22] * shiftplusone shrugs
[22:23] <Jones__> ;-)
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[22:24] <Jones__> The weird thing is that I have seen people having the same problem with a RTL8188CUS (I have RTL8188EU) chipset, and I could install the following hostapd: http://jenssegers.be/blog/43/Realtek-RTL8188-based-access-point-on-Raspberry-Pi
[22:25] <Jones__> So hostapd starts as a service ('service hostapd status' tells me it is running)
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[22:25] <Jones__> but I don't know what to do with this, and 'iw list' still gives the same error
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[22:25] <Jones__> And of course, I do not detect my AP using my computer
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[22:29] <Humpelstilzchen> Jones__: next time buy a ralink or better Atheros, what device do you have?
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[22:30] <Jones__> TP-link TL-WN725N v2
[22:30] <Humpelstilzchen> Jones__: lsusb line?
[22:30] <Jones__> ho, wait =)
[22:31] <Jones__> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. => is that what you meant?
[22:32] <Humpelstilzchen> yes, but I was hoping it prints the chipset as well, aka mine says "Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:8171 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188SU 802.11n WLAN Adapter"
[22:33] <Humpelstilzchen> Jones__: but ok, you already said 8188eu
[22:33] <Humpelstilzchen> Jones__: last time I checked the CUS variant doesn't support hostmode
[22:33] <Jones__> I don't know where I found this... I thought that tl-wn725n v2 had 8188eu
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[22:35] <gnarface> Humpelstilzchen: i'm pretty sure its just a problem with the driver or the software. i saw a patch for hostapd out there somewhere that adds host mode support from the realtek devs
[22:36] <Humpelstilzchen> gnarface: the patch is for 8188 not 8188cus
[22:36] <gnarface> hmmm
[22:36] <Jones__> Is that what this guy talks about: http://jenssegers.be/blog/43/Realtek-RTL8188-based-access-point-on-Raspberry-Pi?
[22:37] <Humpelstilzchen> gnarface: sorry meant SU, not cus. Damn this is so confusing
[22:37] <Jones__> Actually, I have compiled this hostapd, and it says that it is running. But I don't detect the ssid from my computer
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[22:37] <Humpelstilzchen> anyway I recommend get a ralink or atheros based card
[22:37] <Jones__> Any of them?
[22:37] <Jones__> http://www.ebay.com/bhp/ralink-5370
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[22:39] <Humpelstilzchen> 537x is ok afaik
[22:39] <Humpelstilzchen> I have a ralink 5372 which works fine
[22:40] <Jones__> so it has the monitor mode etc, and works on raspbian?
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[22:40] <Jones__> because my realtek actually is not supported by the kernel yet (it will be for the 3.12 I think)
[22:40] <Humpelstilzchen> havn't tested monitor mode, but host works
[22:40] <Jones__> okay
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[23:00] <stevie86> Hey, is there any easy way how I could free up space on my sd card?
[23:01] <shiftplusone> uninstalling java is a good start
[23:02] <stevie86> I don't have java running
[23:03] <gnarface> it doesn't matter if its running
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[23:07] <stevie86> OK i found several java packages.. can I do apt-get remove *java* --purge?
[23:08] <stevie86> no i can't
[23:08] <gnarface> just do them one at a time by name
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[23:16] <stevie86> that's my df -h output
[23:16] <stevie86> http://paste2.org/P4BdxHGf
[23:16] <shiftplusone> pretty sure you can just remove oracle-java7-jdk and then clean the unnecessary dependencies automatically.
[23:17] <shiftplusone> and that's terrible
[23:17] <stevie86> yes
[23:17] <stevie86> what can I do?
[23:23] <shiftplusone> Well, I don't know what you did to get to that stage in the first place.
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[23:26] <stevie86> how can I find the things that use up the most space?
[23:27] <shiftplusone> I use xdiskusage... but you can't install that. There's magic you can do with du, but it's not as useful.
[23:27] <Patina> stevie86: du -Sh --max-depth 1 for a start
[23:29] <stevie86> 19M ./.rpi-firmware
[23:29] <stevie86> that's the biggest
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[23:30] <Patina> Just realized I have 101M in /var. Seems like a lot
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[23:31] <shiftplusone> been using rpi-update, then?
[23:31] <stevie86> yes
[23:31] <stevie86> can i get rid of that?
[23:31] <shiftplusone> yeah
[23:31] <Patina> Oh, it's the swapfile.
[23:31] <stevie86> what can I delete?
[23:34] <Patina> stevie86: Nevermind, using du like that is not usefull.
[23:36] <Patina> Try reading the manual, maybe you will figure something out.
[23:36] <stevie86> OK I found the things that used up my space.. should be fine now
[23:36] <stevie86> thanks
[23:36] <Patina> Ok, what was it?
[23:38] <Patina> -ch, not -Sh.
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[23:39] <stevie86> I use pyload...
[23:39] <stevie86> and I forgot to set the download location to the external usb
[23:40] <Patina> Aah.
[23:40] <stevie86> so the initial downloads ended up on the sd card
[23:41] <Patina> I use uTorrent and thought delete ment delete, but no, it ment move to trash.
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