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[0:08] <karvas> hi - I have the following problem: I can only connect to my rpi on port 22 with ssh when I log in using a usb-keyboard first - this happens after each reboot. Any ideas?
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[0:09] <karvas> this is since i applied some iptable rules, but they are not persistent - so i dont know whats going on
[0:14] <gnarface> karvas: can you ping it before login via keyboard?
[0:14] <karvas> yes I can
[0:14] <karvas> but using ssh it says "ssh: connect to host gateway port 22: Connection refused"
[0:14] <gnarface> weird
[0:15] <karvas> yes
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[0:20] <pankid> if I dd the raspbian image over to an sd card, will I be able to ssh in to set everything up, or do I need to attach my pi to a monitor?
[0:22] <MisterL> if everything works fine you should be able to log on via ssh
[0:23] <pankid> ok
[0:23] <pankid> what about imaging over to a fat partition?
[0:23] <pankid> will dd overwrite the partition type to ext4?
[0:23] <MisterL> dd will write the exact image to the sd card. so.. yes
[0:24] <MisterL> it will create a fat16 boot partition and an ext4 partition containing debian
[0:24] <MisterL> raspbian even
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[0:27] <karvas> I have two interfaces eth0 and eth1, but I have only eth0 connected when I boot the rpi - could it be possible that sshd waits for the second interface to come up?
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[0:28] <karvas> the thing is, when I connect a monitor and keyboard, I log in and then I have to log in again before Im in. any idea what Im dealing with?
[0:30] <MisterL> yeah
[0:30] <MisterL> if eht0 and eht1 are connected to the same network
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[0:31] <MisterL> if so they'll get different ips, so maybe the ipfilterrules don't match?
[0:31] <karvas> no I dont think so, I dont even have eth1 connected
[0:31] <MisterL> hmm
[0:31] <karvas> and I dont have rules at the moment...
[0:32] <karvas> I just did it again: I only need to press enter and ssh works :X
[0:32] <MisterL> do you use a wifi connection=
[0:32] <MisterL> ?
[0:32] <karvas> yes but I have an wifi adapter
[0:33] <karvas> but i also tried with a cable, it was the same thing
[0:33] <MisterL> does it happen when you use.. oh ok
[0:33] <karvas> on the monitor, the login appears while it still starts openvpn
[0:33] <karvas> I think openvpn interrupts the bootup?
[0:33] <MisterL> are there any other firewallrules effective? (eg sshguard)
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[0:34] <karvas> no I didnt install anything but iptables and openvpn
[0:35] <karvas> when I press enter it says openvpn failed to connect and then I get my login screen on the monitor
[0:35] <karvas> and then I can also log in via ssh
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[0:37] <MisterL> netstat -l | grep ssh
[0:37] <MisterL> ?
[0:38] <karvas> tcp 0 0 *:ssh *:* LISTEN
[0:38] <karvas> tcp6 0 0 [::]:ssh [::]:* LISTEN
[0:38] <MisterL> strabge
[0:38] <MisterL> strange
[0:39] <MisterL> did you try to disable ovpn to check if the error persists?
[0:40] <karvas> I could try to disable the autostart for openvpn
[0:42] <MisterL> i'd give it a try
[0:42] <MisterL> maybe backup the sd in case you can't access it anymore
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[0:43] <karvas> yes that was it
[0:43] <karvas> thanks!
[0:43] <MisterL> np
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[4:47] <zombieman> this is way off topic but i have taken apart laptop batterys before and noticed that the cells are rechargable batterys well i have the same size batters but each one is 4400 mah would i beable to repack the 9 batters with 9 4400 mah batterys?
[4:49] <zombieman> 39600mah seems like a dream
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[4:57] <gnarface> zombieman: seems theoretically possible for someone with enough knowledge of basic circuitry
[4:57] <gnarface> (more than i have)
[4:57] <gnarface> ask google
[5:02] <zombieman> one of the esig shops i wok at has the batterys and i was using the laptop cells for the e-cigs fine
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[6:09] <taza> That's technically possible, but the problem is if the output power is stable enough.
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[6:36] <hifi> fyi, you can install jessie with raspbian-ua-netinst, raidensnake apparently didn't know that
[6:37] <shiftplusone> hell, you can install anything with it.
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[6:38] <shiftplusone> I've played around with installing debian armel and kali and it all works great with some modifications
[6:40] <shiftplusone> I want to have a go at making it NOOBS-compatible when I have some time as well
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[6:47] <Mindkontrol> Hello all, I am trying to get my vpn to work on my pi, and having soem problems. I am using vpnc and have setup the .conf with what i believe is the right information, however everytime is just says no response
[6:47] <Mindkontrol> I have tried putting that machine in the dmz to eliminate the issue being with my router, but got the same results
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[7:18] <Mindkontrol> need a hand setting up vpn in terminal
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[15:32] <viticleri> hi
[15:34] <viticleri> how coud i change to spanish keyboard by default to the image i generate?
[15:34] <viticleri> could sorry
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[15:39] <viticleri> by default i've the english keyboard and after image boot i must execute dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
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[15:41] <viticleri> how to do this in the image itself
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[15:46] <roast_> any issues with doing apt-get update/upgrade? i haven't updated in months... last time i did that shit happened and i lose my OS install
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[15:56] <MisterL> do a backup to be safe. i'm glad i did.
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[15:59] <roast_> crap....
[16:00] <roast_> must be sunday morning, i didn't do a backup
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[16:00] <roast_> i'm hoping chrome is available in the raspbian repository, i want to install google cloud print in headless mode
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[17:02] <janPasi> roast_: not likely, chrome is google's browser and i doubt that they will compile it for arm6
[17:02] <janPasi> roast_: there is chromium, though :)
[17:03] <janPasi> roast_: though, i suspect it will be _h_o_r_r_i_b_l_y_ slow
[17:03] <janPasi> xxxterm is the perfect browser for pi ;)
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[17:38] <hid3> Is there any way to downgrade the kernel to an older version?
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[18:16] <hid3> Any ideas on the downgrade?
[18:17] <sney> build an older kernel, boot it
[18:17] <sney> any of the later 2.6 kernels should drop in without much headache
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[18:24] <hid3> is there any way to do that through packages?
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[18:27] <sney> hid3: I'm pretty sure there's no armhf kernel older than wheezy's 3.2.
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[18:30] <moritz> hi all. Are there any newer chromium builds for raspian than the v22 shipped by default? maybe some backports or so?
[18:31] <hid3> sney: yes, I know, but I'd like to downgrade to to say a kernel which was available in ~2013-02
[18:33] <gnarface> hid3: if you used rpi-update to update the kernel you can downgrade it by just passing the git id on the command line of an older one
[18:33] <gnarface> hid3: there's no way to do it by date or version unfortunately, just the git hash
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[20:51] <Geo> Is anyone here familiar with issues on the Pi running service networking restart? ie, it doesn't bring the service back up?
[20:51] <sney> cross-posting is rude
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[20:56] <roast_> janPasi: i want chrome in headless mode which means, no monitor keybord or mouse. FYI, google cloud print requires chrome browser and a few command line instructions to run. I have an rpi as a print server running raspbian, i'm hoping to enable google cloud print on the rpi so i can print from my phone/tablet/laptop anywhere in the world
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[22:14] <janPasi> roast_: ok, maybe you can get that to work with chromium?
[22:14] <janPasi> roast_: that's an oss version of google's chrome
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[22:16] <janPasi> i don't see the benefit from being able to print from anywhere in the world, but that's beside the point i guess ;)
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[22:21] <janPasi> come to think of it, i can come up with a number of usage scenarios where such a thing could be useful afterall :D
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[22:34] <strv> Hi
[22:35] <strv> I have build a debian weehzy package that is not present in raspbian
[22:36] <strv> How to have it eventually included?
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[22:39] <anoali> hi
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[22:40] <anoali> hi. i'm on a rpi running raspbian. i want to use a browser via a socks proxy, but it seems the shipped browsers don't support socks. i was just venturing to build a later midori, but thats sort ofa pita... any other suggestions?
[22:40] <strv> /whois strv
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[22:53] <gnarface> strv: talk to plugwash but i *think* you want to aim for jessie now
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[23:03] <zoey> Does anyone have any idea why I can't get SSH to start at boot ?
[23:07] <plugwash_> hmm, I thought at least iceweasel had supported socks for years
[23:08] <plugwash_> though iceweasel on the Pi can be a bit slow to say the least
[23:09] <gnarface> plugwash_: i'm pretty sure it does too but the way they keep nonsensically re-arranging the menus with every release, i wouldn't blame anyone for not being able to find it
[23:09] <gnarface> zoey: you're talking about openssh-server right? it should start on boot by default unless there's no network device up....
[23:09] <zoey> oh. that may be.
[23:10] <zoey> let me check
[23:10] <zoey> I've barely used it because of not being able to connect
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[23:12] <zoey> It has a port
[23:12] <zoey> er I{
[23:12] <zoey> IP
[23:12] <zoey> now it's up.
[23:13] <zoey> I don't get it
[23:13] <gnarface> maybe you just didn't wait long enough?
[23:13] <zoey> maybe
[23:13] <zoey> I'm checking
[23:13] <gnarface> sometimes the handshake takes a bit longer than you'd expect compared to a modern desktop pc. the pi is slow
[23:14] <zoey> I'm just dumb.
[23:14] <gnarface> i regularly have to wait several seconds to be prompted for the password using key based auth
[23:14] <zoey> I just rebooted and it came up right away
[23:14] <zoey> It was refusing to connect
[23:14] <gnarface> ethernet or wifi?
[23:14] <zoey> ethernet
[23:15] <gnarface> weird
[23:15] <zoey> does it even support wifi without a dongle?
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[23:15] <gnarface> there are many usb wifi devices it supports, but no wifi built in if that's what you mean
[23:16] <gnarface> its very common in here for people to have purchased one with their pi as a package though
[23:16] <zoey> Meant the former
[23:17] <gnarface> i just have a lot of reliability issues with the wifi one i got for mine, that's all. other people seem to also with many other devices
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[23:17] <zoey> my wifi router is currently being DDoS'd
[23:17] <gnarface> my problem seems to be primarily just a signal strength issue possibly related to spectrum crowding
[23:17] <zoey> Ok. I found the problem
[23:17] <zoey> Does the pi not boot without a HDMI cable plugged in?
[23:17] <zoey> nevermind
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[23:18] <gnarface> it will boot without it but you should check your /boot/config.txt if you made changes there based on hdmi settings...
[23:18] <zoey> I never did anything with it lol.
[23:18] <zoey> it had raspbian plugged in then kinda got forgotten about
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[23:30] <gnarface> on compiling VLC for the pi with hardware acceleration... was the reason its not done already that the wheezy version of VLC doesn't contain the --enable-rpi-omxil config option? or could i "apt-get src vlc" and just add that flag and rebuild the package cleanly?
[23:30] <gnarface> "apt-get source vlc && apt-get build-dep vlc" i guess, really...
[23:30] <zoey> that thing is going to be crazy slow LOL
[23:30] <gnarface> zoey: yea, i know but people do it
[23:31] <gnarface> zoey: you know what's slower? wanting to play a DVD and realizing omxplayer can't so you have to manually concatenate the VOB files on your SD card
[23:32] <zoey> lol.
[23:32] <zoey> I was challenged to install gentoo from source.
[23:33] <gnarface> that would be funny
[23:33] <gnarface> i am curious how many weeks it'd take
[23:34] <gnarface> seems like it would be more useful as art though
[23:34] <gnarface> (assuming you wanted to decorate with a constantly-compiling gentoo boostrap)
[23:34] <zoey> .... I should do that
[23:35] <zoey> Can I have colors on emerge?
[23:35] <zoey> if so I'm grabbing a spare monitor and doing that
[23:36] <zoey> and I'll put it on the wall.
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[23:36] <gnarface> heh, good question...
[23:37] <zoey> I actually keep random code compiling on my monitors when I go to sleep
[23:38] <roast_> janPasi: on it already... was trying to be fair to your response. no chrome for ARM, but chormium is available
[23:40] <plugwash_> gnarface, the reason it's not done already is because so-far noone has done the research and come up with a sane soloution that avoids packages in raspbian main depending on Pi specific libraries
[23:42] <plugwash_> what does that flag do? does it just add plugins or does it make changes to the core of vlc?
[23:43] <gnarface> plugwash_: i *think* it must just add a plugin, because to use the hardware acceleration reportedly you have to execute it as "vlc --vout omxil_vout"
[23:46] <plugwash_> Yeah, i'd really like to have confirmation of that before I start working on packaging though
[23:46] <plugwash_> if it just adds a plugin it should be possible to build the plugin from a seperate source package, it may mean rebuilding vlc and throwing most of it away but that isn't really a problem
[23:47] * plugwash_ looks up how long vlc takes to build anyway
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[23:48] <gnarface> well, all i can confirm is that i just found a comment attached to the tutorial that claims the "--enable-rpi-omxil" option is NOT present in the version of the source package currently in raspbian
[23:50] <plugwash_> yeah, having said that people who write tutorials often assume that the only version of raspbian that exists is wheezy
[23:50] <gnarface> ah, good point
[23:51] <gnarface> well, here's the tutorial: http://intensecode.blogspot.com/2013/10/tutorial-vlc-with-hardware-acceleration.html
[23:51] <gnarface> in case it helps and you didn't know where it was
[23:51] <gnarface> there also seems to be useful information in the parent thread here: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=58709
[23:52] <gnarface> the tutorial was updated with a list of required *-dev lib packages someone mentioned in the latter link, but i can't tell you whether any of those constitute what you mean by "pi-specific" libraries
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[23:56] <gnarface> someone also mentions that gcc-4.7 is required as gcc-4.6 errors out
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