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[0:00] <gnarface> someone else mentions export ACLOCAL_ARGS="-I /usr/share/aclocal" may be required...
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[0:38] <miseria> "la verdadera libertad, es como el amor ideal, hacer cosas que nos gusta sin perder la razon en temas del corazon" bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival*
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[8:38] <kingi> is there some network monitor tool that catches short breaks in the connection ?
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[8:40] <moritz> kingi: maybe smokeping?
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[9:56] <kingi> thx moritz , looks scary though
[10:03] <Kymru> does the Edimax EW-7811UN run out of the box on Raspbian now?
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[11:46] <hid3> Is there any way to downgrade the kernel/firmware without rebuilding the kernel from source?
[11:52] <shiftplusone> there's rpi-update
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[11:54] <janPasi> 44
[11:54] <janPasi> whoops, sorry :D
[11:56] <hid3> oh, looks like the rpi-update takes the github has...
[11:56] <hid3> *hash
[11:56] <hid3> great, thanks, I will try it out
[11:56] <shiftplusone> yeah
[11:56] <shiftplusone> careful though, it's the hash from hexxeh's repo not the foundation one
[11:57] <hid3> oh
[11:57] <hid3> thanks for the heads up
[11:57] <shiftplusone> np
[11:57] <hid3> the problem is that my RPi is freezing/hanging randomly when playing music. I might want to try to downgrade say a one year old firmware to see if this helps or not
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[11:58] <shiftplusone> and you've measured the tp1-tp2 voltage when it hangs?
[11:59] <hid3> I can't catch the moment when it actually hangs, I just miss the moment and find the results of the hang
[11:59] <hid3> and FWIW it's not PSU related...
[11:59] <shiftplusone> they all say that (and then it is)
[12:01] <hid3> it doesn't hang up with all relays switched on, full CPU load plus file copying from one dir on HDD to another
[12:01] <shiftplusone> but you have measured the voltage after it hangs?
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[12:01] <shiftplusone> and it's close enough to 5v under normal conditions?
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[14:58] <hid3> shiftplusone: sorry for late reply, yes, I've measured it during normal operation and after hang up. Never seen below 4.89
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[14:59] <shiftplusone> sounds good. I think I have seen a few thread on the forum about stability issues where audio is involved. Have you checked there?
[14:59] <hid3> I've been googling but found nothing useful..
[15:00] <shiftplusone> If you figure it out, report back. I'd be curious to know what's going on.
[15:01] * gnarface still thinks its the latest foundation kernel/firmware to blame
[15:01] <hid3> do you recall when the threads started appearing? I wonder if this is a hardware or software problem, at least...
[15:01] <shiftplusone> nuh, it's something on the back of my mind... not sure if it's there because I have seen it on the forum, or because I have seen you mention it 2 hours ago >.>
[15:01] <hid3> as for downgrade, I even don't have a clue at which firmware/kernel to aim at...
[15:02] <gnarface> just start with the previous one
[15:02] <hid3> Previous 3 or 4 ones were faulty too..
[15:02] <gnarface> hmm
[15:03] <hid3> latest one - faulty, Dec 20 (IIRC) faulty, the one before that faulty too
[15:03] <gnarface> faulty in the same way?
[15:03] <gnarface> what's the contents of your /boot/config.txt?
[15:03] <hid3> indeed
[15:04] <hid3> gpu_mem=16, everything else is commented out
[15:05] <gnarface> you running a desktop/login manager?
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[15:06] <hid3> no
[15:06] <hid3> it's a console only headless
[15:06] <hid3> no keyboard, mouse, etc...
[15:11] <hid3> At the moment I've copied music to SD card partition and started playing from there. Will have to wait a few days to see if it hangs or not (probably this will eliminate is it USB or not USB related issue)
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[15:29] <delugeofspam> if I have a raspbian on wifi, can I use its ethernet port to share the connection with another device?
[15:29] <delugeofspam> and... how bad of an idea is that?
[15:29] <delugeofspam> I don't need supreme performance, the other device is just a network printer
[15:31] <moritz> should work
[15:31] <shiftplusone> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Internet_Sharing
[15:31] <moritz> in the simplest case, echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[15:31] <SirLagz> it'll work if you turn the Pi into a router
[15:34] <delugeofspam> moritz, does that make the pi essentially a passthrough device?
[15:34] <Chousuke> you could possibly even bridge the two interfaces
[15:35] <delugeofspam> because that's really what I'm looking for... I don't want the printer on some kind of subnet, I really just want the printer to use the pi as a bridge, yes.
[15:35] <moritz> delugeofspam: yes, that's what happens by default
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[15:36] <delugeofspam> okay, cool. i'm really not entirely sure that i'm not tossing the printer right out of the window, yet, but if i keep it i need to move it off of this floor and it won't have wired ethernet anymore.
[15:37] <delugeofspam> but if I could do this without reconfiguring every device that prints to it (ie, just have it use the pi as a bridge to the current router) that would be ideal.
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[16:33] <hid3> Is there any benefits of getting rid of 'ifplugd'? My RPi has got Ethernet connected always and I don't see any point running it on 'lo' interface
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[17:22] <SwK> anyone know if the images plugwash uses/used on the Raspbian i.MX5 hardware for building packages is available?
[17:28] <hifi> probably best to ask him directly
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[18:04] <delugeofspam> moritz: I did the echo, and the iptables policy is to accept forwards, but when I plugged the printer into the ethernet port the pi kicked the wifi adapter off
[18:05] <delugeofspam> so i manually connected again, and while the pi has connectivity the printer doesn't seem to
[18:07] <delugeofspam> it seems that eth0 is disabled when wifi is on...?
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[18:09] <moritz> delugeofspam: easy to check, with ifconfig eth0
[18:09] <delugeofspam> UP BROADCASTING RUNNING MULTICAST
[18:10] * delugeofspam has tried restarting the printer.
[18:11] <delugeofspam> weird, though, the router seems to have an IP lease for the printer
[18:11] * delugeofspam clears that, restarts the printer again.
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[18:12] <delugeofspam> yeah, it's definitely not reaching the router
[18:13] <delugeofspam> hur, okay, this is interesting
[18:13] <delugeofspam> restarting the printer seems to be causing the pi to disconnect from wlan0
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[18:15] <mndkntrl> hey guys,
[18:15] <mndkntrl> haveing a problem with ssh
[18:17] <delugeofspam> ... and the way people write tutorials is maddening
[18:17] <mndkntrl> was able to connect to it fine with ports forwarded using password auth, now i have connected that machine to vpn, and i get auth errors, saying user name password wrong and private key not selected
[18:17] <delugeofspam> I'm googling "raspberry pi as a transparent bridge" and the first ten results are people building it as a bridge but explicitly stating that they're NOT building it as a transparent bridge
[18:17] <mndkntrl> username and pass are not wrong, but i have not done anything with keys yet
[18:21] <delugeofspam> alright, I got a few funny ideas by googling 'debian "transparent bridge"'
[18:25] <delugeofspam> ugh, the bridge interface seems to just be clobbering wlan0
[18:25] <MisterL> mndkntrl, does sshd restrict logins to ip addresses? since vpn would be a different range
[18:26] <MisterL> if so, maybe try turning it off for testing or add the vpns subnet
[18:33] <delugeofspam> this is obnoxious. it seems like it should be easy to tell the pi "share your wireless internet connection out over your LAN port"
[18:33] <sney> stop treating the pi like it's so unique
[18:33] <sney> linux wifi router
[18:35] <delugeofspam> i don't want a wifi router
[18:35] <delugeofspam> i want opposite of a wifi router
[18:35] <sney> linux wifi (whatever you want to do)
[18:35] <delugeofspam> receives signal via wifi, shares connection to ethernet port
[18:35] <sney> if you insist on searching for pi-specific howtos you're unnecessarily narrowing your scope
[18:36] <delugeofspam> yeah, i'm not. i'm searching "linux" and "debian" mostly.
[18:36] <sney> ok.
[18:36] <Humpelst1lzchen> actually a lot times I'm googling for something I land on a rasberry pi page.
[18:36] <delugeofspam> i'm thinking it's something particular to the pi hardware or kernel, though, that is a hurdle here
[18:36] <sney> connection sharing does imply routing of some sort though
[18:36] <Humpelst1lzchen> not that the result is useful, but..
[18:37] <delugeofspam> I don't want the pi to NAT for my printer, I want to use it as a passthrough... not routing, bridging
[18:37] <delugeofspam> but 'bridge wifi to ethernet in linux' is not really a common operation, and the tutorials i've found are failing me
[18:37] <Humpelst1lzchen> bridging wlan client is a bad idea
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[18:38] <delugeofspam> Why?
[18:39] <delugeofspam> http://www.lungstruck.com/compy/linux-transparent-bridge/ seems like it should be easy to just replace 'eth0' with 'wlan0' and 'eth1' with 'eth0' to get the desired effect, but all that does is shut down the wlan0 connection, and it won't come back up
[18:40] <delugeofspam> the fact that the simple act of plugging the printer into eth0 is causing the pi to drop its network connection makes me think that there is something peculiar to the pi that makes it immediately assume that anything on eth0 is to be used for inet/dhcp
[18:40] <delugeofspam> ... oh, it could be that /etc/network/interfaces is configured that way :\
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[18:41] <Humpelst1lzchen> because you need either something like wds or 4addr on client and host
[18:44] <mndkntrl> MisterL: Thanks, ill chekc for that
[18:46] <mndkntrl> MisterL: I dont see anything in sshd_config about restricting ip
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[18:47] <MisterL> do other services work via vpn? ftp, http..
[18:47] <mndkntrl> honestly i have not tried anything else
[18:47] <mndkntrl> I was just about to start web searching ssh thru vpn
[18:49] <MisterL> well would be good to know if its a ssh-related issue or if it's the vpn. i'd check other services from at least 2 clients inside the vpn i think.
[18:50] <delugeofspam> Humpelst1lzchen: that doesn't really explain anything
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[18:52] <delugeofspam> I'm still not really clear on why this is any harder than sharing a wired interface. i just want a transparent bridge, the source for which happens to be a wifi adapter
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[18:53] <Humpelst1lzchen> delugeofspam: because they forgot to put that in 802.11
[18:53] <Humpelst1lzchen> delugeofspam: I tried it about a year ago, but failed miserably, so I'm no expert here but last time I checked it was a bunch of incompatible vendor protocols
[18:54] <delugeofspam> oh, and this is wonderful... for some stupid reason openbox won't boot now
[18:54] <delugeofspam> it gets to the very end of the startup process and gives me a blinking cursor
[18:54] <Humpelst1lzchen> delugeofspam: try google for linux wds 4addr
[18:55] <Humpelst1lzchen> delugeofspam: basicly its "for each wlan client your AP expects only one MAC
[18:56] <delugeofspam> okay, *that* makes a lot more sense
[18:57] <delugeofspam> And I bet the hardware is sort of limited in its capacity to spoof as >1 client
[18:57] <delugeofspam> to add to the fun, I'm pretty sure I've just nuked my sdcard
[18:57] <mndkntrl> MisterL: apparently it is not as easy to use ssh through vpn and needs a bit of tweeking
[18:57] <sney> it happens
[18:57] <mndkntrl> MisterL: this tut says i need to install corkscrew
[18:58] * delugeofspam tried pulling the power during the hung-boot state, and now the pi won't start up, period
[18:58] <MisterL> could be. mine works just fine, but i suppose i use a very simple setup
[18:58] <MisterL> like, my pi isnt a client in the vpn
[18:59] <mndkntrl> Hmm, I am no expert. I have my pi setup using openvpn
[18:59] <MisterL> the pi is the vpn-server?
[18:59] <mndkntrl> my intent is to set it up as a headless torrent / irc machine
[18:59] <mndkntrl> no, its just lcient
[18:59] <delugeofspam> oh, swell, removing and reseating everything has gotten some response out of it. i think it's time to just throw this printer away.
[19:00] <Humpelst1lzchen> delugeofspam: oh and check https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections#Bridging_with_a_wireless_NIC
[19:01] <MisterL> yeah ok. that's what i thought of. i don't run setups like this, sorry, no idea
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[19:05] <mndkntrl> MisterL: np man, thanks for the help
[19:06] <MisterL> yw
[19:07] <delugeofspam> ooh, Humpelst1lzchen, that might solve my problems
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[19:09] <hid3> Everyone running RPi as a server with constatnt ethernet connected might want to get rid of ifpludg package. Saved me several tens of interrupts/s
[19:09] <Humpelst1lzchen> hrhr hid3: thats one of the first things I kill
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[19:16] <hid3> Humpelst1lzchen: what else do you remove/disable?
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[19:16] <hid3> maybe any packages? I found that wolfram used ~400 mb...
[19:17] <Humpelst1lzchen> hid3: its always a good idea to look at the running processes
[19:19] <hid3> I already did that. Nothing spare running..
[19:24] <fryck> I have problem cifs mount in /mnt/usbdrive/www (NTFS external hard drive) i've created symlink /var/www/sites -> /mnt/usbdrive/www (with owner www-data:www-data and chmod 777) apache vhost document root target to /var/www/sites/xxxx symlink, i have this error : "Symbolic link not allowed or link target not accessible: /var/www/sites" if i change vhost document root to /mnt/usbdrive/www, it's
[19:24] <fryck> works, but why it doesn't work with symlink ? :/
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[19:27] <fryck> i have no idea...
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[19:48] <stevie86> Hey, I'm still learning to work with my raspberry pi....
[19:49] <sney> fryck: windows filesystems do not understand unix-specific things like permissions or symlinks
[19:49] <stevie86> I tried setting up a cron job for streamripper to record a certain stream at a certain time regularly and it just won't work.... :(
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[19:58] <stevie86> anyone?
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[20:08] <stevie86> could it be a problem that the filename of the sh script I used is quite long?
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[20:13] <stevie86> how can I run a cronjob only once - tonight at 9.30pm for example?
[20:14] <ppq> stevie86: use "at"
[20:15] <stevie86> ok just found something
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[20:38] <stevie86> Which setup would you suggest for my raspberry pi to send mails?
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[20:39] <sney> probably exim4-daemon-light
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[20:44] <stevie86> how can I check if streamripper is running now?
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[21:04] <stevie86> Can anyone give me a hint on how to set up my raspberry pi to send mails in scripts?
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[21:06] <sney> install a mta, then use 'sendmail' in your scripts.
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[22:39] <pilou_> hello, I''ve just installer mplayer and mpg321
[22:39] <pilou_> I can play mp3 from root
[22:39] <pilou_> but not from my user. Have you got any idea ?
[22:40] <pilou_> there is no erreur, mplayer works as if it was playing
[22:41] <janPasi> pilou_: is your mixer muted?
[22:43] <janPasi> pilou_: open terminal and type alsamixer + hit enter
[22:43] <janPasi> pilou_: then set the volume level with arrow up/down keys and hit esc
[22:44] <pilou_> thanks, no the level is 84 on master channel
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[22:45] <janPasi> ok, so neither mplayer nor mpg321 will play audio?
[22:45] <pilou_> is it strange than i have a capture device in user mode
[22:45] <pilou_> and none in root mode ?
[22:46] <janPasi> very strange indeed, mine shows no capture devices
[22:46] <pilou_> in user mode card and chip are 'pulseaudio'
[22:46] <janPasi> and i don't think pi has any
[22:46] <pilou_> and bcm2835 alsa/Broadcom mixer in root
[22:46] <janPasi> why do you have pulseaudio installed?
[22:47] <pilou_> i don't know (and i dont know what it is :) )
[22:47] <janPasi> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulseaudio
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[22:47] <jhave> Hello
[22:48] <janPasi> it's not installed by raspbian by default, so you must have gotten that when installing something
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[22:48] <pilou_> i'm removing it
[22:48] <janPasi> yeah that's what i was going to recommend :)
[22:48] <jhave> Any there use rasp. pi to lern programming ?
[22:48] <jhave> i think about the GIPO connecter
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[22:50] <janPasi> pilou_: also check for other pulseaudio related packages that you might have installed
[22:50] <pilou_> janPasi, I've installed mpd (music player deamon) maybe pulseaudio has come with it (but mpd is not uninstall with pulseaudio)
[22:50] <janPasi> nope, mpd doesn't install pulseaudio
[22:50] <janPasi> i'm using mpd too
[22:51] <pilou_> now alsamixer tells me that it cant open mixer :(
[22:51] <janPasi> you can check for other pulseaudio packages with "dpkg -l *pulse*"
[22:51] <janPasi> remove all of them, then do a reboot
[22:52] <pilou_> gstreamer but i dont know why it is installer
[22:52] <pilou_> installed
[22:53] <janPasi> gstreamer might install pulseaudio actually
[22:53] <pilou_> yes, gstreamer-pulseau
[22:54] <pilou_> i'm interrested by your mpd experience :)
[22:54] <janPasi> it works well :D
[22:54] <janPasi> i have three mpd servers
[22:55] <janPasi> one of them on pi, which is connected to nuforce dac, which in turn is connected to my main stereo system
[22:55] <janPasi> one on this laptop that i'm using for playing music on this machine
[22:55] <pilou_> how to you command them ? I want to command mine with my smartphone, connecting to a web remote command
[22:55] <janPasi> and one in the audio system of my sauna
[22:56] <janPasi> i have a mpd client called ario installed on my laptops
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[22:56] <janPasi> it's light enough to run on pi too, if you like
[22:56] <janPasi> on my mobile (it's and old symbian) i have a client called qmpd
[22:57] <janPasi> you need to change one line in /etc/mpd.conf to enable network access
[22:58] <janPasi> bind_to_address line needs to say "any"
[22:58] <pilou_> thans ther is one on my nokia windows phone for 0.99$
[22:58] <pilou_> mpdi
[22:58] <janPasi> i have no experience with that, but you could try that :)
[22:58] <pilou_> not very sexy
[22:58] <janPasi> since when have windows phones been sexy to begin with ;D
[22:59] <pilou_> it seems to not show any cover
[22:59] <pilou_> i reboot
[22:59] <pilou_> and going to sleep
[22:59] <pilou_> thank you janPasi
[22:59] <janPasi> ok, good luck with you audio
[22:59] <janPasi> and good night :)
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[23:13] <pilou_> janPasi, hard going to sleep when it doesn't work :)
[23:14] <pilou_> i have rebooted but alsa always tells me taht it cant connect to the mixer :
[23:14] <pilou_> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
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[23:19] <pilou_> when i try 'adduser myuser audio' I have 'The user `myUser' is already a member of `audio'.'
[23:19] <pilou_> but when i exec 'groups' i have only my own group and tty
[23:21] <pilou_> i have to logout/login, now i can play music :)
[23:21] <pilou_> bye
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