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IRC Log for 2014-01-19

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[0:00] <miseria> "charlando con un arbol pregunte: porque tenia el cerebro enterrado? responde: la mision es proteger la tierra" bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival*
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[1:40] <Nathan2055> Does anybody have a list of the pre-installed packages?
[1:41] <Nathan2055> I'm trying to figure out which libraries I have to manually download.
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[2:13] <badtoyz> is there a version of raspbian with systemd pre installed and setup?
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[2:15] <sney> no. you might be able to do something with raspbian-ua-netinst, but systemd support is incomplete in wheezy anyway
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[2:17] <badtoyz> sney: i am running testing "jessie" right now
[2:18] <badtoyz> sney: trying to see if i can make it work
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[6:13] <raidensnake> hey shift
[6:18] <raidensnake> I might need to send you a dist-upgrade report for gnome as some components are being removed when they aren't necessary
[6:18] <raidensnake> as gnome uses them
[6:18] <raidensnake> in other words jessie is missing dependencies for gnome that are in wheezy
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[6:34] <hifi> why would you dist-upgrade?
[6:34] <hifi> you can install jessie directly
[6:34] <hifi> and jessie is far from stable
[6:34] <raidensnake> I tried but your installer doesn't recognise jessie
[6:34] <hifi> it should
[6:35] <raidensnake> it says unable to find source
[6:35] <hifi> unless plugwash broke it
[6:35] <raidensnake> that's what it says
[6:37] <hifi> jessie does exist
[6:38] <hifi> you set release=jessie in installer-config.txt?
[6:38] <raidensnake> yes
[6:38] <raidensnake> and it complains it can't find it
[6:39] <hifi> try setting the mirror to http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/
[6:40] <hifi> I think not all mirrors have jessie yet
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[6:44] <raidensnake> nope tried both but keeps saying "unknown suite jessie"
[6:46] <hifi> just tried, works for me
[6:46] <hifi> you do use the latest installer, right?
[6:46] <raidensnake> yes
[6:46] <hifi> just installing jessie with it
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[6:52] <raidensnake> tried reloading now it moans it can't find the scheme
[6:53] <raidensnake> I even redownloaded the installer again to try it
[6:53] <raidensnake> it just doesn't want to know
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[6:56] <hifi> from what link did you download it from
[6:56] <hifi> it should also say on boot that it was built on jan 15th
[6:57] <raidensnake> this link
[6:57] <raidensnake> http://hifi.iki.fi/raspbian-ua-netinst/raspbian-ua-netinst-latest.zip
[6:57] <hifi> for the sake of argument, I'm going to try with the exact package
[6:59] <hifi> wow, did I just kill an sd card
[7:00] * plugwash suspects there is something screwy between raidensnake's pi and the internet
[7:00] <raidensnake> you wish
[7:00] <raidensnake> I'm running a direct fibre connection
[7:01] <raidensnake> wheezy installs ok
[7:01] <raidensnake> but jessie won't install directly
[7:01] <raidensnake> why I don't know
[7:01] <raidensnake> it always complains it can't find it
[7:02] <raidensnake> I set these 2 in the installer-config.txt file
[7:02] <raidensnake> mirror=http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/
[7:02] <raidensnake> release=jessie
[7:04] <hifi> I redownloaded the installer from the very link you gave
[7:04] <hifi> re-formatted my SD card, extracted it there
[7:04] <hifi> and created installer-config.txt
[7:04] <hifi> installs jessie just fine
[7:05] <raidensnake> well i only have those 2 commands in the file
[7:05] <hifi> http://hifi.iki.fi/installer-config.txt
[7:05] <hifi> try downloading this exact file and place it on the card
[7:05] <hifi> without modifications
[7:06] <hifi> plugwash: btw. the latest kernel works just fine
[7:06] <hifi> haven't heard any new issues the very least
[7:06] <raidensnake> I didn't encounter any here.
[7:06] <raidensnake> on the kernel
[7:07] <hifi> maybe the 3.6 one was borked somehow and caused freezing for many
[7:07] <raidensnake> 3.6 causes the USB's not to work properly
[7:07] <raidensnake> my keyboard and mouse don't work on it
[7:07] <raidensnake> always have to ssh in
[7:10] <raidensnake> sorry hifi it's still not finding jessie
[7:11] <hifi> O_o
[7:11] <hifi> your pi and network are haunted
[7:11] <raidensnake> maybe someone can check my IP as my provider is known to get blacklisted.
[7:12] <hifi> http://hifi.iki.fi/raspbian-ua-netinst/raspbian-ua-netinst-20140115-gitf8f70f8.zip is this the exact same file?
[7:12] <hifi> the latest is a symlink to that
[7:12] <raidensnake> the date said the 15th
[7:12] <raidensnake> when it tried to rin
[7:12] <hifi> ok
[7:12] <raidensnake> run*
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[7:13] <hifi> haunted I say
[7:13] <raidensnake> the only explanation is the server is rejecting my IP
[7:13] <plugwash> If it was you wouldn't be able to install wheezy either
[7:13] <raidensnake> well the wheezy usually uses a different server
[7:14] <raidensnake> let me try just the archive one
[7:14] <hifi> I just tried with every possible combination and when I had release=jessie it worked just fine
[7:14] <plugwash> what happens if you try wget http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/dists/jessie/main/binary-armhf/Release
[7:15] <hifi> as it's a simple shell script and cdebootstrap there isn't much that can go wrong
[7:15] <raidensnake> error 403
[7:15] <plugwash> what is your IP?
[7:16] <raidensnake> 84.92.82.135 it's a static IP
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[7:18] <plugwash> What happens if you try traceroute archive.raspbian.org ?
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[7:19] <hifi> you have any aggressive http proxy?
[7:19] <raidensnake> i don't use proxies
[7:20] <hifi> your isp might :)
[7:20] <raidensnake> more like filtering
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[7:21] <raidensnake> cause recently they've been blocking a lot of sites
[7:21] <raidensnake> node 7 doesn't respond
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[7:22] <raidensnake> gets to here just fine
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[7:22] <raidensnake> te1-5.cr2.yrk.bytemark.co.uk [91.223.58.144]
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[7:22] <plugwash> Lets put it this way, i've searched the logs and i'm 99% sure that 403 didn't come from us
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[7:23] <plugwash> so it sounds very much like your ISP is messing with the traffic in some way between when it leaves your Pi and when it arrives on the open internet
[7:23] <raidensnake> well the trace seems to be at the server provider
[7:23] <raidensnake> on their network
[7:23] <plugwash> yeah but traceroute won't detect all messing
[7:23] <plugwash> since messing can be port or protocol specific
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[7:24] <hifi> they can do transparent proxy on port 80
[7:24] <raidensnake> well cause of the recent legal matters here they started blocking websites
[7:24] <raidensnake> like file sharing ect...
[7:24] <plugwash> what happens if you try changing the url in the configuration file to https://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/
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[7:25] <hifi> isn't that what didn't work
[7:25] <hifi> oh, https
[7:25] <hifi> I don't think there is https support in the installer
[7:25] <raidensnake> gonna try it
[7:25] <hifi> I'm not shipping any ssl related libraries
[7:25] <hifi> can you wget the file plugwash just gave over https
[7:26] <hifi> that jessie release file
[7:26] <raidensnake> yeah
[7:26] <raidensnake> i noticed you use the same SSL provider I do
[7:27] <raidensnake> startcom
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[7:28] <raidensnake> I got the class 2 validation
[7:31] <raidensnake> doesn't read https
[7:31] <raidensnake> I just tried it
[7:31] <hifi> is your wget result different
[7:31] <hifi> over https
[7:32] <raidensnake> the wget works fine
[7:32] <hifi> but not with http?
[7:32] <raidensnake> when I try the installer in https or http neither works
[7:33] <raidensnake> it only works when i use the mirrordirector link for wheezy
[7:33] <raidensnake> in http
[7:33] <hifi> find a jessie mirror that works over http
[7:33] <raidensnake> any listing for mirrors?
[7:33] <hifi> but it's definitely your isp that is doig something funky
[7:34] <plugwash> http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianMirrors
[7:36] <raidensnake> too bad there isn't a way of it testing different mirrors
[7:36] <raidensnake> automaticly
[7:39] <hifi> would find it odd if oxford is blocked
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[7:40] <raidensnake> rhe raspbrry pi link is only 80 miles from me
[7:42] <plugwash> sadly regardless of geographic distance most traffic between providers in the UK goes via london afaict
[7:48] <raidensnake> the whole global internet routes via london
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[8:01] <dexta> morning
[8:02] <raidensnake> ok archive decided to start working
[8:02] <raidensnake> why I don't know
[8:03] <plugwash> My feeling is your ISP has tried to do something too clever (maybe trying to redirect the traffic to a local server) and has screwed it up
[8:04] <plugwash> either that or someone misconfigured the warez filter
[8:04] <raidensnake> the filters are made by the IWF and OFCOM
[8:05] <raidensnake> they always make mistakes
[8:05] <raidensnake> on public wifi's google is blocked
[8:05] <raidensnake> obviously in error
[8:09] <raidensnake> oh btw ou know the raspi-copies-and-fills package
[8:10] <plugwash> i'm aware of it
[8:10] <raidensnake> I noticed it doesn't buffer much to the swap
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[8:20] <raidensnake> one thing that bugs me is why qemu needs a desktop to run
[8:21] <plugwash> erm, i'm pretty damn sure that qemu does not need a desktop to run
[8:21] <raidensnake> well I tried the qemu package and tried building the source but both complain it can't initialise the graphics
[8:21] <raidensnake> yet when I install mate for example it starts
[8:23] <Jusii> -nographic
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[8:23] <Jusii> I've run it numerous times in console
[8:26] <hifi> you can also use curses output for serial console and vnc server to get remote vnc to it
[8:26] <hifi> but running qemu on pi is kinda... eh
[8:26] <raidensnake> well I wanted to try installing windows 95 on it
[8:27] <raidensnake> I know... it's ancient
[8:27] <hifi> win95 would run on 486 better than on the pi on qemu
[8:27] <raidensnake> just to try it
[8:27] <raidensnake> true but even so
[8:27] <raidensnake> qemu had -386 support
[8:27] <raidensnake> i386
[8:28] <raidensnake> I heard people managed to install windows 8 arm on it
[8:29] <plugwash> dunno where you heard that but i'm 99.99% sure it's bullshit
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[8:29] <raidensnake> heard it? someone's actually done it.
[8:29] <raidensnake> in qemu
[8:29] <plugwash> ah I thought you meant running windows 8 arm on the Pi
[8:30] <raidensnake> yeah through qemu
[8:30] <raidensnake> that has been done
[8:30] <plugwash> LoL
[8:31] <raidensnake> I managed to mount an image for the hd for windows 95 but one thing i run into is getting the installer to run
[8:31] <raidensnake> i got dos to work fine
[8:31] <raidensnake> well mostly
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[8:33] <shiftplusone> raidensnake, send me a dist-upgrade report? Surely you have me confused with someone else, as I have nothing to do with raspbian. D=
[8:34] <raidensnake> I was refering to where jessie is missing dependencies for gnome
[8:35] <plugwash> Can you be more specific as to what dependencies are missing?
[8:35] <raidensnake> I'll have to make a list while will take time.
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[9:01] <raidensnake> ok does anyone know the syntax to enable vnc on a lan?
[9:01] <raidensnake> through qemu?
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[9:05] <shiftplusone> getting incoming connections working in qemu is a pain
[9:05] <shiftplusone> instead, I use ssh to forward the relevant ports
[9:05] <hifi> I think he meant the -vnc :0 option for qemu
[9:06] <shiftplusone> ah, there is that
[9:06] <shiftplusone> my mistake >.>
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[9:06] <raidensnake> well it sees the connection through vnc viewer
[9:07] <shiftplusone> I prefer to run vnc inside qemu rather than use qemu's own vnc feature as you can change the resolution that way.
[9:07] <raidensnake> well the window opens and closes on vmc viewer
[9:07] <raidensnake> but it sees the connection
[9:08] <raidensnake> just the display doesn't appear
[9:08] <raidensnake> it closes the window
[9:08] <raidensnake> why that is i don't know
[9:09] <raidensnake> I got the qemu command to rin
[9:09] <raidensnake> run
[9:09] <raidensnake> I open vnc viewer and click connect
[9:09] <hifi> shiftplusone: there's no limit in resolutin changing if you use qemu's vc
[9:09] <hifi> vnc*
[9:09] <raidensnake> it connects, tries to open a window and instantly closes it#
[9:09] <hifi> you can toggle different resolutions inside the vm and the vnc display will be resized
[9:11] <raidensnake> I would except the connection is kicking me off
[9:11] <raidensnake> it won't display the window
[9:11] <raidensnake> even though vnc itself can connect
[9:11] <raidensnake> it's like it's instantly losing the connection
[9:11] <raidensnake> that's in lan mode
[9:12] <shiftplusone> hifi, well that's the thing... you can't toggle the resolution inside the VM when emulating the pi, unless you use Torlus' version of qemu.
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[9:13] <hifi> oh, that's probably an arch limitation then
[9:13] <hifi> x86/x86_64 qemu/kvm works just fine with resolution changing
[9:13] <shiftplusone> and if you do use torlus' version, then you don't get a NIC, which isn't fun either.
[9:15] <shiftplusone> and yeah, it's the limitation of the display it emulates. Although I think the physical display can change resolutions, the emulated version of it seems to be stuck ofn 800x600 or whatever it is
[9:17] <raidensnake> well in my case nothing runs
[9:17] <raidensnake> the command is there, vnc is started but no window
[9:23] <shiftplusone> just tried it myself... works fine
[9:23] <shiftplusone> launched vnc with -vnc :0 added, then ran vncviewer :0
[9:25] <shiftplusone> does it work locally and fail only when you connect from another computer or what?
[9:26] <raidensnake> I'm trying to connect on the lan
[9:27] <shiftplusone> I got that, I am asking if you've tried connecting from the same computer and what the results were
[9:27] <raidensnake> well from my tablet to the pi i have to use a lan address
[9:27] <raidensnake> locally I can't test since I'm in ssh
[9:28] <shiftplusone> doesn't make sense, but I'll take your word for it.
[9:29] <raidensnake> if you are asking can i test it on the pi itself then no since i only have the power cable and network cable plugged in
[9:29] <shiftplusone> no, I am not sure where the pi comes into the equation at all, since you're not running qemu on a pi, I hope.
[9:30] <raidensnake> well that's the idea
[9:30] <raidensnake> as i said before
[9:30] <raidensnake> I wanted to try windows 95 on it
[9:30] <shiftplusone> oh
[9:30] <shiftplusone> good luck
[9:30] <raidensnake> it's connecting the vnc from the pi to my tablet
[9:30] <raidensnake> i got the command running
[9:31] <raidensnake> so qemu and the vnc server for it is up
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[13:49] <WinstonSmith> hi ppl :). my pi freezes after 12-36 hours with "disabling irq #32" any ideas?
[13:52] <shiftplusone> I don't know, but keep an eye on http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=66962
[13:53] <WinstonSmith> shiftplusone: heh, that's me :)
[13:53] <shiftplusone> well then.... >_<
[13:53] <WinstonSmith> but the help is appreciated
[13:54] <rozie> do you have bluetooth?
[13:54] <WinstonSmith> no
[13:54] <rozie> any devices with USB 1.1?
[13:55] <rozie> can you paste cat /proc/interrupts ?
[13:55] <WinstonSmith> stock raspian, all usb 2 (powered hub + usb wifi), voltages measured (all ~5V) pi is running only dnsmasq+nfs server+ssh sessions
[13:55] <WinstonSmith> sure sec
[13:57] <WinstonSmith> http://paste.debian.net/77200/
[13:57] <WinstonSmith> rozie: ^
[13:58] <rozie> the same as mine
[13:58] <rozie> 15 days up here
[13:58] <WinstonSmith> it really gives me sadface.gif, as i want to pi for a lowpower router + openvpn gate
[13:59] <rozie> paste iwconfig pls
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[13:59] <WinstonSmith> http://paste.debian.net/77201/
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[14:01] <rozie> Tx-Power?
[14:01] <rozie> I
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[14:01] <WinstonSmith> rozie: i don't understand
[14:02] <rozie> I'd give a try with lower tx power and pinging the device all the time to prevent power saving
[14:03] <rozie> take a look on https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/system-freezes-disabling-irq-channel-in-slackware-13-a-766493/ too
[14:03] <WinstonSmith> well since it's running openvpn which has a keep-alive (and is connected to a server) it should already do that. plus i have a keepalive script that pings google every 2 mins and restarts wlan0 if needed
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[14:05] <rozie> the traffic for openvpn/google goes through wlan?
[14:05] <WinstonSmith> yes
[14:05] <WinstonSmith> outside->wlan0->eth0->LAN
[14:07] <WinstonSmith> if i don't find a solution i'll unplug wlan0 and let the pi run like that, to see if it freezes. that wifi dongle uses a driver from the staging tree (r8712u) but i have been using it for years without complications
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[14:10] <WinstonSmith> from dmesg "[ 1.866199] dwc_otg bcm2708_usb: irq 32, io mem 0x00000000" , so it's usb for sure
[14:11] <rozie> running alone is a good idea
[14:12] <rozie> but if this is some kind of power issue, it may run just fine
[14:12] <WinstonSmith> well i first unplugged the usb hub and plugged the wifi directly into the pi
[14:13] <WinstonSmith> see what happens as i just read some unrelated post where someone explained that hubs can cause problems
[14:13] <rozie> BTW which kernel do you use (uname -a)
[14:13] <WinstonSmith> latest 3.10.25+
[14:14] <WinstonSmith> running the firmware update was the first thing after unpacking :)
[14:15] <rozie> interesting, I have 3.10.24+
[14:15] <rozie> running update...
[14:15] <WinstonSmith> gogogo :)
[14:18] <WinstonSmith> oh 3.10.27
[14:18] <WinstonSmith> running update...
[14:18] <WinstonSmith> :)
[14:20] <WinstonSmith> back
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[14:22] <rozie> don't see kernel upgrade
[14:22] <rozie> only raspberrypi-bootloader
[14:22] <WinstonSmith> uname -a : Linux rasp 3.10.27+ #630 PREEMPT Fri Jan 17 19:44:36 GMT 2014 armv6l GNU/Linux
[14:23] <WinstonSmith> just updated
[14:23] <rozie> how do you upgrade?
[14:23] <WinstonSmith> rpi-update
[14:23] <rozie> I use wajig update; wajig dist-upgrade
[14:23] <Chousuke> that upgrades the userland
[14:23] <WinstonSmith> wajig?
[14:24] <WinstonSmith> you mean apt-get?
[14:24] <Chousuke> wajig is a frontend to apt and various other tools
[14:24] * WinstonSmith is confused
[14:24] <WinstonSmith> ah
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[14:24] <rozie> consider it apt
[14:24] <rozie> but on normal system apt upgrades kernel too
[14:24] <WinstonSmith> heh i have my aliases for apt-get etc since years in my .zshrc
[14:24] <WinstonSmith> i know
[14:25] <WinstonSmith> so i normally just do "agu" on my other boxes
[14:25] <rozie> OK, let's wait for apt-get upgrade to finish
[14:26] <rozie> then reboot, then rpi-update
[14:26] <WinstonSmith> yeah I/O is not phenomally fast on SD >_<
[14:26] <WinstonSmith> wel at least on my type 4 card
[14:26] <rozie> depends on SD ;)
[14:26] <rozie> but have class 4 too
[14:27] <WinstonSmith> but aside from that "little" irq 32 problem i must say i am absolutely thrilled with the pi :)
[14:28] <WinstonSmith> finally i have a linux server that does not use huge amounts of power, my other servers along the years used to be older desktop pc, and a box running 24/7 does add up to some electricity costs
[14:29] <WinstonSmith> and it plays my HD movies!
[14:29] <WinstonSmith> \o/
[14:29] <WinstonSmith> satisfied.gif
[14:30] <shiftplusone> Chousuke, the firmware and kernel is contained in the raspberrypi-bootloader package which gets updated when major fixes are available. So apt-get dist-upgrade does not only upgrade the userland, it covers the firmware and kernel as well.
[14:30] <WinstonSmith> shiftplusone: but using the git repo with rpi-update is some steps ahead of the repos?
[14:31] <WinstonSmith> kernel wise that is
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[14:31] <shiftplusone> WinstonSmith, kernel and firmware, yes. That's not necessarily a good thing though.
[14:31] * WinstonSmith bleeds on the edge ;-)
[14:32] <shiftplusone> Then you should be running Arch, or at least jessie D=
[14:32] <WinstonSmith> no not arch. i prefer stuff to "just work" ;-)
[14:32] <shiftplusone> but yeah, if you don't mind rpi-update overwritting files managed by apt, that's not a problem.
[14:33] <rozie> so I shouldn't run rpi-update if I wanna go apt way?
[14:33] <WinstonSmith> well i will try running without the usb-hub, then without usb devices at all. if not successful, i will go back to a stock kernel
[14:33] <shiftplusone> rozie, correct. rpi-update should be used to test the latest firmware or to revert to older revisions of the firmware, if required.
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[14:36] <rozie> 3.10.25+ after reboot
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[20:39] <bonjurkes> how can I check/update the version of raspbian?
[20:40] <sney> 'cat /etc/debian_version' and 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade'
[20:40] <bonjurkes> 7.2
[20:40] <bonjurkes> latest i assume
[20:40] <sney> it is a stable release, there's not a lot of movement. yes 7.2 is current
[20:40] <bonjurkes> yeah debian guys
[20:41] <bonjurkes> thanks, just wondered if I need to change any lines on sources.list like on debian update
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[20:44] <vagrantc> 7.3 is current on Debian, dunno about raspbian
[20:44] <sney> yeah 7.2 still
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